Q&A at the Halfway Mark
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Asked and Answered: Brian Burke Edition - PPP at Leafs Nation
Brian Burke took to Twitter for a Q&A session a few days ago and PPP has collected them all for you because he's a nice guy like that. Some highlights:
Which trade do you consider the highlight of your career so far - @Jimmy_Stallion
Burke: The Sedin twins. Actually three trades, and a big gamble at the time. I never worked so hard on a transaction in my life.
PPP: Sigh.
What's your most important priorty heading into trade dead line a foward dman or bottom six players - @Kennethkstevens
Burke: We'd like to add size to our forward group. That may come from Joe Colbourne(sic) or we may have to go to the trade market.
PPP: READ - RYAN GETZLAF FOR JOE COLOBORNE+. I'll attribute that typo to the fact that Burke's likely dictating his tweets to a PR person who is filtering them for profanity.
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Anyone else consider the NHL didn’t consult the NHLPA because they knew after next season they may have to move the Coyotes and they’d have to move teams around again, so having the NHLPA reject it is a way of saving the headache?
or am I just making it more complicated than it has to be?
I’m sure the NHL knew the NHLPA would reject it for one year, I think that’s partly why it passed over some objections among owners, most of whom gave Bettman the benefit of a doubt. The NHLPA are not that stupid – they know a bargaining chip when they see one. And I think that’s okay, I wanted the NHL to think this re-alignment over more anyways. I’m not sure I really like it without 2 more or less teams, I would honestly rather just switch Detroit over (I know, I know, we need to look out for the small market teams like Columbus and Nashville, but who the fuck wants to play them more?)
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by PKSube on Jan 9, 2012 7:24 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Interesting Star article about the KHL.
“While the league pledged after the tragedy that its teams would only use state-of-the-art planes, those plans have since been quietly dropped. Many KHL clubs still charter Soviet-era planes”
I’m surprised that tidbit hasn’t received a bit more attention.
really excellent article. I love that they included quotes about how the KHL is destined to be equal to the NHL alongside, well, all the evidence to the contrary. And in that light – seclusive camps, game day sequestering – I can’t imagine ever signing in the KHL over, say, the SEL. Maybe European expansion will change that (“If you don’t work your ass off for Milan, we’ll trade you to some shithole in siberia!”)
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That’s Russia to a tee. Trying to copy the more successful western world by cutting every corner they can find, ignoring safety, and with an attitude quite like the Wild West of the 1800s. Just like the space race when they put guys up there in rigs built of duct tape, I don’t know how it hasn’t gone worse than it has.
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I think your description of the space race is a tad jingoistic.
For one, the Russians put the first man in space, so if anything the Americans were doing the copying.
Also, despite their high tech vehicles with no duct tape on them, the United States has suffered its share of destroyed spacecraft and lost it’s share of astronauts.
WHY DO U HATE AMURICA?!
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by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 9, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
the Russians put the first man in space, so if anything the Americans were doing the copying
This is true, but the Americans were aiming for something bigger. Did anything big happen in 1969?!?!?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
And how old were you then?
/don’tmakemecompareyoutoBryanAdamswherehesingsaboutthesummerof’69asifhewasn’t5yearsoldthen
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
You know what’s funny, when I counted "-24’ from 69, I got the result of what -14 would have got. I guess we both made the same mental mistake.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Pfffft
Young people today… declining educational standards…. where are the beatings of yesteryear?
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by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t worry, I got plenty of those. Eastern European parents + lots of wooden spoons and shoe horns lying around = plenty of beatings.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
Bender: “Wow, your kid is great. How hard you say you had to hit him?”
Lady: “Fairly hard.”
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by Back In Black on Jan 9, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Futurama is best.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 9, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
some find it hard to count backwards.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Last night in the car, for fun, my kids did an alternating count from 150 backwards to 1.
I love my kids. Then I made them keep going to -50.
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by Back In Black on Jan 9, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
I know I’ve never met them, but I feel very comfortable in saying “your kids are weird”
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This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 9, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
The Americans accelerated their space program in reaction to the Soviet Union. When Sputnik launched, the U.S. had no idea. It was a real wake-up call. And as far as shoddy workmanship goes, Apollo 1 burned on the launchpad due to faulty wiring and oxygen oversaturation. Both countries were cutting corners/making it up as they went along, not because they wanted to do it cheaper, but because they wanted to be first.
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
The infrastructure of their economy could not support the love affair Kruschev had with technology.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Apollo 1, Challenger, Discovery.
And I still dispute your insinnuation that the Space Race was the Russians ‘copying’ the West.
I don’t think we have any idea how many space disasters the Russians had due to the Iron curtain… I doubt knowing Soviet technology that they had a very good safety track record, but the documents reflecting that may not have been released yet.
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Right, many accounts there are cosmonauts floating in the far reaches of space on missions that “never happened.”
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I think he was suggesting that they had more failures than we realized.
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Am I the only one who thinks cosomonauts is a funny sounding word?
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The Ancient Aliens guy saying “assonauts” is hilarious.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 9, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwGPuO6eyNc
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 9, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
I think most Greeks cringe when they see this guy on TV.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
I think most Greeks everybody cringes when they see this guy on TV.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 9, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
His hair keeps getting bigger.
Hate for him keeps getting bigger.
Coincidence?
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jan 9, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
Is something like this possible? YES it is!
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 9, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Especially when
you misspell it. ;-)
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by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
but the documents reflecting that may not have been released yet.
They were lost in the great “7.5 inch floppy disk” fire — The lesser known early portable storage disk — another one of those Russian technologies that flopped.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
The old floppies didn’t…er…flop, they were replaced by 3.5" floppies. DVDs replaced VHS tapes, but they were by no means a flop either.
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Is it true that even though it lost the consumer market it remained the medium in recording movies/tv?
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I find that so interesting.
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it’s also interesting that the only reason VHS won out was because it was embraced by the porn industry.
same with blu-ray over…that other one.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
HD-DVD.
When they announced it was being discontinued Wal-Mart and others slashed their prices on the players/movies.
I say 3 people loading up on the players and their movies…i considered telling them the bad news but didn’t want to burst their bubble
Never heard that one before. I always heard (with no evidence, just one of those “claims”) that it was because they didn’t let others produce the players.
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it was porn.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah VRN’s right, the porn industry has a lot of sway with that regard.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 9, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
Also, Blu-Ray won out over HD-DVD because of the “coolness” factor.
Blu-Ray sounds way cooler and was guaranteed to out-perform HD-DVD when it came to marketing the two.
didn’t HD die because a bunch of big money makers went blu-ray exclusive?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 9, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
Warner Bros. went Blu-Ray
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by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 9, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
again, porn.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
Blu-ray = 25GB; HD-DVD = 15GB
Oooooh let me guess who wins? I saw it coming miiiiles away. Add in Sony getting tens of millions of blu-ray players out through its playstation and bam.
Blu-ray also had more support from the beginning compared to HD-DVD. The only thing HD-DVD had going for itself was that it was much cheaper for consumers.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 9, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure comparing fractured heat tiles and faulty o-rings is quite the same as fundamentally flawed rocket design. Issues like “we can’t get the main engines to fire at the same time” and “we’re just using a whole bunch of kerosene as a fuel source, why?”
For the US, you’re naming individual flights. For Russia, you’re naming entire rocket programs.
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I can’t google it right now, need to get back to work, but there’s some Russian program where (maybe the N1?) blew up on the launchpad and pretty much left an entire space launch complex as a smoking crater with hundreds of completely vaporized corpses.
Rebuild it somewhere else, no big deal.
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The covered up the deaths of ~120 people for 29 years. Makes you wonder what else they covered up.
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You’ve gotta think they missed (or messed up) their trajectories at least once.
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They really used Kerosene? Wild.
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From the n1 page -
In comparison with the American Saturn V, the N1 is slightly shorter, more slender overall, but wider at the base. Generally the N1 produced much more thrust than the Saturn V. It used only kerosene fuel in all three of its stages, and had somewhat lesser overall performance than the Saturn; the N1 stack was intended to place about 90 metric tons (200,000 lb) of payload into Low Earth orbit, whereas the Saturn V could orbit about 119 tonnes (131 short tons). The US’s experience with higher energy liquid hydrogen as fuel gave them the confidence to use it on the Saturn upper stages, which significantly reduced the upper stages’ take-off weight and increased the payload fraction.
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Huh, didn’t realize that, given that the Saturn V’s first flight was in 67 as well.
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Ummmmm.... Sputnik, anyone? Who copying who?
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by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Many believe, while not proven statiscally, that Sputnik was a “one and done” effort that strained the financial and signalled the beginning of the decline of the USSR in terms of being able to keep up with the space race.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Piffle
You’ve got Sarkozy in your name.
Thus, your argument lacks credibility.
And your children will mock you.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
Piffle
I had to reach back and dust off my 1925 Webster Dictionary to find out what that word means.
/yesI’mstillplayingofftheoldjokeinacommentstringbelow
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but do you spit when you say it?
/oldperson’sperogative
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by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Bravo, you got me to chuckle aloud when i read that. Mostly because I pictured you (from that caricature maple created of you) spewing saliva through your chompers while saying the word.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Piffle!
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 9, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Also
… codswallop.
Love it.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
Russians sacrificed safety, reliability, and robustness to save time and get up first.
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And all that time they could’ve just used Viagra.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 9, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Both Americans and Russians based their projects around captured German scientists, so they both pretty much started at the same time.
Defectors not captured!!
/CompletelyTongueInCheekNotSerious
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Personally though
I think the whole space race was an insane waste of money and a lot of the money devoted to space exploration is too.
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Wrong
The best way to spend money is by paying very smart people to do very smart and challenging things.
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Why aren’t more people paying me to shut up then?
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by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
very smart people.
When very dumb people do challenging things, they end up telling you that 4/7 = 4/8.
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Clearly, you’re not being paid either.
No mistake there.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
I was, but I got fired for not shutting up. It was too challenging. =(
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I just feel like those very smart people could have worked towards things that could contribute to society a lot more.
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Alot of technological advances came from the space race. Unfortunately war often brings out the best in our advancements
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Was it an efficient way to find those advancements? Could we have directly funded them and done it a lot cheaper.
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no. there’s no market for them. no patience for the investor to get their ‘return’.
society gets its return in spades from basic research, both economically and in terms of the advancements.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
I do like pure research but that is not what we are discussing. We are discussing focussed research that had indirect benefits. There is a difference.
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i’m not sure I understand the difference.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
You are discussing pure research devoted to just understanding things.
The topic here is focussed research (on how to explore space) which had spinoffs.
Finding that Viagara is a penis pill would be studying something specific and getting an indirect benefit (trying to find hypertension medication that instead gave boners).
Studying how cells reproduce and finding a chemotheraputic target would be pure research that gave a tangible benefit.
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but doesn’t space exploration have the tangible benefit of developing the necessary technology to explore space?
it’s the same logic behind car manufacturers developing F1 cars: push the limits of your technology, and find practical ways to incorporate these technologies into mass market products.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Still isn’t pure research :P
Anywho I fully admit that I was mistaken from a cost/benefit angle it was helpful to society. The lot of you have shown that. Thanks.
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i have a very black and white view of pure vs applied. mostly because of the way granting agencies break down (either you’re doings something with the direct aim of helping people, or you’re not).
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe yes, maybe no. It is all hindsight. War unfortunately forces nations to fund projects they would not otherwise. These military projects often lead to making society more efficient. It is sad but true
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Those people developed Tang. You really think there’s a greater contribution to society than Tang?
More seriously, there’s a pretty good list here and there are infact so many “spinoff” technologies that there’s a yearly highlight of NASA technologies that make it to the private sector.
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As I said
I don’t know the in depth economics and I could be wrong. But it just seems to me that a lot of this stuff gets overfunded versus its actual contribution to society.
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The point is that you can’t always anticipate (read: almost never) what will benefit society most, because great advancements introduce new kinds of benefits. You just let smart people do their thing, and make sure they have the resources they need.
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they aren’t getting it from NASA’s money. There are much, much worse things we spend money on. Like subsidizing food crops to prop up high prices globally and keep people hungry.
don’t get me started on subsidizing food crops.
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But I know what you’re saying. I actually don’t think ‘aid’ (ie pure $) to countries is a good idea anyway, mostly because the politicians in many instances are corrupt and just use it to help themselves and their cronies while their citizens continue to suffer. The best way to help countries would be simply passing on our knowledge base to them…. have some of our public works engineers go over for 5 years and work there and show them how to set up a municipal water supply, , how to build a sewer and stormwater system, how to deliver electricity, etc . Unfortunately that requires a lot of co-operation from national and local politicians, which isn’t always easy to co-ordinate in many places in Africa, for example.
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Most “Foreign Aid” is a corporate handout, basically the US pays for contracts with American companies instead of the foreign government they are aiding.
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by Back In Black on Jan 9, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
for long space voyages, NASA must come up with a way to provide a constant source of clean water and electricity… you could see how figuring out how to provide water and electricity thousands of miles in space might benefit people in the middle of a desert
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Yup, and NASA has definitely done nothing for the advancement of solar power.
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Priorities though. As Daoust is saying. This costs a fortune, which could be used for basic necessities.
How many people could have health care in the US with NASA’s budget (note I really don’t know their budget. Is it really true that the entire thing is smaller than one year of the US military’s budget?)
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$19 Billion in 2011, the last year they have full data for (2008) NASA’s budget was 0.6% of the federal budget
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
Social security in 2008 was $608 Billion alone so it must be based on the discretionary budget
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Stop paying for the internet, sell your belongings and spend your disposable income entirely on helping anyone less fortunate than yourself.
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Do you know how to have an argument or discussion without being an asshole?
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Says the guy calling people “assholes”.
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by Chemmy on Jan 9, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Welcome thanks for joining.
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by daoust on Jan 9, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Moving past that, you obviously understand that you giving up things that we’d all agree are completely frivolous (watching hockey games, Xbox, beer, etc.) won’t change the world.
Saying “We shouldn’t do X because some people have it real bad” isn’t a great argument.
We did “X”, in this case funding space tech, because it provided us with a positive net economic return which gives us * MORE * resources to help the less fortunate or do whatever with.
You’re not really spending money in the sense that it’s gone.
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by Chemmy on Jan 9, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, I have seen that from everything that you guys have provided. Thank you for showing me that I was wrong.
The reason I held the belief was because it appeared to me that we spent a tonne on something that was mostly done because it was “an impressive feat”.
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Yeah, it just seemed like “we can go to the moon. So cool! Lets spend an absolute fortune to do that because it is so awesome”. Clearly though the impact that it has had for society was huge so count me corrected.
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by BCapp on Jan 9, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
rec’d for modestly changing opinion in light of newly appreciated facts, because it doesn’t fucking happen enough.
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Hahaha no worries
I have no problem being corrected as long as people use evidence which you guys have. I learned something new.
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I’m going to need stats on that statement before I believe you.
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Stats aren’t a requirement either, because you’re a dirty fucking socialist, and I’m not entirely sure where you were born. Welcome to US politics.
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Obviously actually standing on the moon didn’t benefit humanity very much, but getting humans from earth to the moon did because when they started that part wasn’t remotely possible with current technology.
Plus if it didn’t involve really big missiles they’d never have done it.
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Actually, I had a professor argue that physically standing on the moon was a huge paradigm shift for the human race: up there, we could physically see how small the world actually was. It’s not a coincidence that the environmental movement really picked up shortly after, so she says.
Also, ‘walking on the moon’ was for centuries the equivalent to ‘sure, when pigs fly.’
I think it served as a great starting point for inspiration.
We fucking walked on the moon! Just think of what we can do now!
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Well, the next forty years after that have been spent in space gliders in suborbit so….
I kid, I kid. The ISS is pretty cool
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
The motivation was because it was an impressive feat. I don’t think anyone justified the space race funding because “we’ll probably get a whole bunch of other stuff out of it!” They did it because the mantra at the time was “fuck the Ruskis.”
Right results, wrong motivations, still the right results.
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You’re absolutely correct. Stopping playing video games or watching hockey isn’t going to magically help people. That being said, directing a portion of your annual video game budget to a reputable charity can actually help people.
And theoretically, instead of saying "we’re going to spend $X to maybe make advancements that help us, either now or in the future", they could say "we’re going to spend $X to help solve problems that we know exist right now, even if these people aren’t in our country". Let’s be honest, a good portion of the advancements we’ve made in the last 100 years that have benefited the western world have yet to provide any benefit to the 2nd and 3rd worlds.
Sorry, not trying to get all preachy on anyone here.
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At its PEAK, NASA’s budget was 1.05% of the Federal Budget (1991). In 2008, it was 0.6%. 17.138 billion dollars.
That would be $57.12. 2007-dollars per person (using USpop-300M).
Budget breakdown for the US Military? 1.03-1.4 Trillion dollars. For 2012 alone.
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ironically, Obama has to justify cutting something like 500M from the defense budget. Because apparently your military being 7x as big as any other nation isn’t good enough. anything less than 10x is unacceptable.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
He had to justify cutting 500 million? Do you mean billion? 500 million sounds like peanuts in that budget.
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Thats what the 4th biggest ship type they have?
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5th
Aircraft carrier
Amphibious Assault ships
Cruisers
Destroyers
Frigates
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Didn’t think of Amphibious Assault ships. Was thinking navy and forgot Marines.
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I know, I know. They are under the Navy but in a lot of ways are their own branch of the military.
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They are the infantry of the Navy. But, they like to think themselves a separate branch to distinguish their “roughneck” nature.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah I know how it is. But I guess I just buy into their belief.
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At least according to Wiki they are one of the 7 Uniformed Services of the US
United States Army
United States Marine Corps
United States Navy
United States Air Force
United States Coast Guard
United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Commissioned Corps
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Aren’t you a med student?
Where I come from, my profs would laugh if I cited Wiki in a bibliography.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, it was the easiest rebuttal.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
I am, but this isn’t a submission to a journal.
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IT ISN’T??!!!1
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
That’s why you cite from the references section.. duh.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 9, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
nah, you can get those at Sears for cheap now.
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sorry, yeah. Billion. with B.
spread out over 10 years though.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
This is true, in one of my capstone classes last year we went through an excercise and most of the well-known or famous revolutions in technology came from places outside the industry where that technology is now applied/used.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
that’s one of the best short arguments for a space program I’ve ever heard. Of course, there are more complex reasonings (fuels technological innovation; provides critical data and experimental potential to test fundamental scientific concepts; entire space program since beginning has cost less than one year’s worth of a military budget, etc. but that’s a good quick one.
Are you also opposed to the use of public funds for the advancement of medical and neurological research?
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No I just think the amount of public funds that have gone into something that I don’t think has provided society with that large a direct benefit.
I dunno. I haven’t looked into the in depth economics so if it really isn’t that much money, than cool, awesome. But in a lot of ways space exploration to me seems like something we did because it was cool and awesome.
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Also for the possible long term (and I mean really long term) benefits, it’s fairly cost-effective
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
you’re using the internet right now: the direct product of ‘basic’ research in particle physics.
hell, MRIs wouldn’t exist if not for basic research. one never knows what innovations will come of asking the question ‘why’?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
To an extent. And there’s certainly longer-term benefits that come out of research like this. It just seems a bit extravagant to be fucking around in space when there’s still people in the world that don’t even have running water.
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maybe there’s water on Mars?
(i say that somewhat facetiously, but there’s some truth in it. again, sometimes the best way of solving applied problems is indirectly).
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
I guarantee you there’s a more direct way to get clean drinking water to people that need it.
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The money going to the space program isn’t going to go to help people have running water. Sorry. If anything, take a shot at the massive US military budget – which in one year costs more than the entirety of NASA’s budget COMBINED.
Thank you. That is where I am coming from.
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So, you say you’d like to know how the space program helped increase potable water supplies? I’m glad you asked. Or maybe rather than recovering water, you’d like to analyze whether or not it’s potable. 1994 was apparently a big year for water
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I’m glad you answered. I am very okay with being wrong on this, that there is a shitload of benefits to society through the research. It just always appeared to me that we spent a fortuen for mostly “cool” or “impressive things”. Glad the lot of you have shown me the benefits.
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Should Canada spend all of their money building water delivery systems for Africa?
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No. They should spend their money maintaining those water systems! (TED Talk)
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See
I am not talking about pure research. Pure research is great. We are discussing focussed research on space travel with indirect benefits.
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Space technologies
Microwaves
Teflon
Composite materials
velcro
modern computing
Satellite communication
GPS
modern weather tracking
the list literally goes on and on
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Teflon and velcro weren’t. Anywho that is cool and all. But I feel like so much money is spent for cool factor.
But hey as I said (three times now I think), if the economics really do pan out that th money spent is benefiting society well indirect discoveries than wonderful and I am wrong.
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but the universe is Humangous big, and it might be nice to understand it
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
Here’s a PDF of “the list” of NASA-driven products that made it to the private sector in 2010 alone, via the Spinoff site I linked above. For one year, it’s a 150 page document, with 49 articles. The document has been in publication since 1976.
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if you were alive in the 60s you might have thought otherwise. space seems so trivial now. we can’t comprehend how much of an accomplishment that was at the time.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think you need to use relativism as a justification here. In part because it’s not a great justification, but especially because even with hindsight, it was a good idea.
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well in hindsight, they didn’t discover like moon men or oil or plasma on the moon. if you judge it on results, there’s not a lot that directly came out of going to the moon, aside from a little bit of moon dust/rocks.
it’s the indirect accomplishments that came along with it that are the real benefit. but even if you take those out, just getting there was an incredible feat that would have impressed the hell out of me, in the same way that the LHC impresses me now.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
That and I think everyone still secretly hopes that eventually we’ll all have X-wings/lightsabers/phasers/matter transporters
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I get it was a crazy accomplishment. I still think it was. But what did it really contribute for the fortunes we have spent. How much better off would we be if that went into Welfare or pensions or w/e
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That’s right.
It seemed huMANgous big back then…
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 9, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
It is still a humongous accomplishment. Nothing currently exists that would allow humans to return to the moon.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 9, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
The space shuttles (discontinued btw) reach only low earth orbit. NASA is at a crossroads right now: they’re talking about going to Mars on the one hand, but there is zero interest in spending the money needed to get there, let alone something to replace the shuttle
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Private companies will soon replace the shuttle leaving NASA alone to ideally work on larger projects. However the price tags are still immense for space-based construction. Yet its the next step we need to take as a species, especially considering the degree to which were polluting the only safe refuge for life that we know.
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thats no moon. that’s a space station.
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It’s too big to be a space station.
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by Back In Black on Jan 9, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
All we got was a Moon Unit.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 9, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Those two questions should’ve been answered before cancelling the shuttle, not after.
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Forgive my ignorance. What 2 questions? His comment seems to discuss funding for Mars…
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Either replacing the shuttle and/or developing a deeper range flight.
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Ahh. My understanding was that NASA wasn’t planning on building their own ships in the future, but as was obvious atop I don’t follow the industry that closely (beyond the “that is cool”)
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Yes, but if they go that route NASA is essentially giving up on ever going anywhere farther than low earth orbit because no private venture will be willing to foot the bill to go to the Moon, let alone Mars. Almost the entire reason why these private companies want to build their own ships is for tourism. Unless somebody finds a giant diamond deposit on the Moon, I doubt we’re going to get a Moon Base there. That is, unless Apple decides it’s cool enough to do it anyway
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it’s unlikely that private companies will develop the technology we need. It’s an incredibly short sighted decision.
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Governments need to fund science for the sake of science because companies aren’t going to do anything that doesn’t turn a profit no matter what technology breakthroughs might be made.
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especially since now they can just troll patents from other people. no need to develop technology if they can just strong-arm their way into it for basically nothing.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
i know, but that’s my point. there was at one point actually incentive for companies to have strong R&D (Kodak; HP; IBM). but now patent laws are such a shit-show they don’t even have the financial incentive any longer.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Untrue. Can’t elaborate, if you don’t believe my word that’s fine I don’t expect you to.
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whatever is happening under the cloak of secrecy in small little companies is probably a fraction of the R&D that was occurring throughout the big American corporations in the 50s-70s.
in any case: science for the sake of science will always yield unexpected and significant contributions.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
I agree that gov’t should fund things like space travel for the R&D benefits.
I disagree with your assertion that patent law has stifled R&D spending in industry.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Chemmy is cryptic, but it hardly matters because I dont even know what microchip imprinting even is.
/waives hand.
I do, I do.
Used to work for this hothouse R&D outfit that was working on new High End storage technology.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 9, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
For companies like Kodak, all they have LEFT is their patent portfolios. It is literally the only asset they still hold that people are interested in acquiring. Patents are the reason why Nortel took another 5 years to break up after it went bankrupt, because of all the billions in auctions
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
patent & copyright law are both pretty bankrupt. They need to be totally revamped in the US, the only problem is most of the politicians have been purchased.
we can’t build a moon base anyway. the moon is just there to hide the aliens who are watching earth and isolating humans to their own planet.
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
The Shuttle wasn’t cancelled per se. It hit end of life and no successor was developed.
At the end of the Shuttle program the maintenance costs on the Shuttles was getting absurd: they had to be treated as irreplaceable holy relics almost.
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The Shuttle wasn’t cancelled per se. It hit end of life and no successor was developed.
And the NHLPA didn’t reject the NHL’s proposal, they just forgot to get around to it.
I mean, I get the idea that something else has to come, and that’s great, but I have to think it’s going to be a battle to get that funding back now, rather than if the funds had simply been diverted to a development program.
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NASA was, and is, not happy with the decision not to fund the shuttle follow up.
Personally I think it’s a decision we’ll regret as a society.
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They did have a development program: Constellation. But it was cancelled.
All that’s left is the Orion crew vehicle, but who knows how long it will take to get one working. And even then, I doubt anybody at NASA or the White House knows where to point it.
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
In the running for “worst president”.
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And he’ll still probably be re-elected because Republicans are choosing between eight different brands of crazy.
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It is laugh out loud hilarious the candidates running for the Republicans.
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It’s possible, albeit incredibly unlikely, that Obama doesn’t get the Democratic nomination. I think that’s happened at least once before in US history, but many moons ago
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
I think it was already confirmed. At least no one is yet running against him.
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I can’t imagine who would, or could, steal it from him
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
They’re like a collection of James Bond villians. It’s absurd.
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Guy Boucher should run
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 9, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
Demers should run. “I can’t read the constitution, but I also can’t read any bill that might take away your guns, or legalize gay marriage.”
Demers 2012.
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If I were American I would be extremely upset because you guys have basically no choice. You guys really need more than 2 legitimate candidates running each time…
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FPTP isn’t kind to third parties.
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by Back In Black on Jan 9, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
wait, we have more than 2 legitimate choices in Canada?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 9, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
You didn’t make Crazies one of the two choices.
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 9, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
makes it easier for the ROC to enjoy the craziness without getting hurt
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“well I’m going to vote for a third party candidate”
“go ahead. throw your vote away.”
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hmmmm…..would have been better with a picture of kang
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Yes I intensely dislike Obama but wow the other options.
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That about sums it up. It really is choosing between the lesser of two evils
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I don’t envy your choice of bad versus bad and crazy.
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by Back In Black on Jan 9, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
what’s Bill Clinton up to?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 9, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
He’s actually, per the Constitution, forbidden from holding public office ever again.
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I hate term limits for elected officials.
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I don’t. I want term limits enacted for Congress as well. 1 term max as Senator, 2 term max as Rep. Get in, get out, stop worrying about reelection.
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Probably a little too much turnover – if everyone’s new, congress spends a lot of time learning what it should already know – but there’s definitely too little turnover now.
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That’s what I want. I don’t want people getting into cliques with lobbyists and whatnot. Get in, do your work, get out and make room for the next person.
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But you get a congress that is operating less efficiently simply because of the turnover. You can’t stagger the replacements if they’re just one term, for example. Nothing would get done for the first six months of any election year (not that much gets done now).
I think the better answer to getting rid of lobbyist cliques is to ban corporate donations to election campaigns – since corporations can’t vote, anyways – and allow congressmen to hire analysts / SMEs rather than turn to external consulting agencies.
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They are very important. Occasionally it sucks when someone great has to go, but overall they are necessary.
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Fuck that shit. I’d vote for 10 more years of Jean Chretien right now.
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Fuck that. I’d rather Martin, Chretien screwed him over.
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I think they screwed each other but mostly what MrSmithy said.
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thy screwed the whole party with their infighting
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Not that there was ever a proper “fiscally conservative but socially libertarian” party to begin with.
What I (and I think the majority of North Americans who aren’t far to the left or right) want is a party that will take good care of my tax money and stay the fuck out of my personal life.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 9, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
that’s the dream. the unicorn of politics
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hmmmm…..part of me wants to say they can turn people away due to nor being able to freely vote for anyone, but then again the staleness of candidates probably is worse. but I’m commenting on an election system I can not partake in.
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he was giving a talk in Vegas to a room full of audiologists a few days ago. his fee is probably in the $100,000s.
my wife was there.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
i dunno. he’s like a hockey coach that’s been given a team full of career minor leaguers: how much better could he really have done given the circumstances?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
Uh…..a whole lot better. He came in preaching change and really has just rolled over every time the going’s gotten hard. I do give him kudos for the Iraq withdrawal though.
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His big chance was the supermajority he held for the first half of his administration, but getting anything through the system of checks and balances of the U.S. system is hard enough on a good day. And the last two years have become known as the most gridlocked in recent congressional history. Obama did push through health care and some financial reforms, but both got watered down (which always happens with any legislation, it’s how U.S. Congress works). I wonder what he might’ve been able to do if he didn’t inherit the worst financial crisis since 1929
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
His health care change got watered down so horribly. It makes me sad for Americans.
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Still a bigger accomplishment than Clinton, who actually failed at getting healthcare pushed through
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah that loser who ran huge budget surpluses.
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 9, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
It’s a good thing Newt Gingrich was around to hold Clinton accountable for that immorality. Y’know, while he was cheating on his wife.
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Which is totally unacceptable. You can, however, be completely “unable to recall” a several year period of your life, and still come off free and clear.
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Still wish he got that health care reform through. But yeah he is my favourite american president in my life.
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Honestly not sure if it was because of him or not, but the Clinton years were incredibly financially stable and profitable
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
He was riding economic bubbles (dot com, which burst right at the beginning of Bush’s term). Not that he did nothing, but it was also luck. Obama inherited the greatest recession since the Depression. So yeah, different circumstances.
Not even close. He had everything in place to do what he (and the people who voted for him) wanted and squandered it trying to appear “bipartisan”.
This country has eaten conservative dogshit for years. None of us fucking voted for Obama to suddenly be bipartisan. Fuck him.
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by Chemmy on Jan 9, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I thought a lot of people voted for him to be moderate…
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His goddamn campaign platform was “CHANGE”.
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 9, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Campaign was built on “change” from the Bush administration. He got elected so that everyone could get as far away from the Bush administration as humanly possible (well, without voting Nader). Pretty tough to argue there’s been any change at all when SOPA and NDAA are could actually get passed, and the Bush tax cuts got extended.
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Okay. I was just trying to say that a lot of people who voted for Obama weren’t necessarily on the far left. There were a lot of moderates who were tired of the uber right and they thus voted Obama. They wouldn’t have been happy if he had gone really far left.
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I guess I just have trouble looking at American politics properly
With the two parties it is such a one way or the other. So someone who wants moderate policies don’t really have someone to vote for. And if they do the president betrayed his/her side.
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I would ordinarily agree with calls for moderation, but right wing thugs have looted our country and appeasing them isn’t in anyone’s best interest.
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Okay fair enough. I think I came across wrong. He was voted in to change from the nut job republicans you have had recently. I just think had he gone really hard left it would have been against a lot of his voters wants. Clearly he did fuck with his voters anyway.
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There are moderate Republicans that are more left-wing than conservative Democrats. When you have a two-party system, things get a little weird.
Contrast that with Canada, where the Liberals and Conservatives are essentially identical, except both get to be a smidge more radical in their leanings when they’re in opposition and can just criticize without trying to maintain power
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Amen.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Bipartisan is nice in theory, but in practice bipartisan = do what the Republicans want to do.
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by Back In Black on Jan 9, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
that’s true. he shot himself in the foot in the first 2 years. but he’s been tied down by democratic bs ever since.
you gotta give him credit for making that appointment a few weeks ago even while the senate was still ‘in session’. that took balls.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
That’s why we’re mad. We knew Obama had a two year window and he squandered it. Saying he’s tied down now isn’t carte blanche for him, we all saw it coming.
He fucked up. He had a chance to really right the ship and he spent his time making sure the people who ran it into the ground were happy.
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it was a little naive of him to believe if he showed some compromise the GOP would do likewise.
if he gets re-elected I think he’s going to have a really good second term (his first term PDO is very low).
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
GOP compromise would be a lovely idea if the GOP gameplan for Obama’s 1st term wasn’t ‘just do the opposite of everything Obama wants just because we can.’
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 9, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
his pledge for ‘Change’ shouldn’t have been interpreted as ’i’m going to do the same way the other guy did, but make the opposite decisions’.
as far as I’m concerned he followed through. it’s the voters that didn’t have the appetite for the change he was selling (and the Republicans, who fucked him over every chance they got).
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
It’s been said above, but extending the Bush tax cuts can’t count as change in any sense of the word.
In the court of public opinion, Steve Simmons is Lionel Hutz.
yes, but in the face of the myth that is Reganomics it would have been a complete firestorm given the economic situation.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Ok. I’m just not sure what change you think he really followed through on.
In the court of public opinion, Steve Simmons is Lionel Hutz.
he actually tried to compromise. whether or not it was advisable, it was a change.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
Of course the Republicans were going to fuck him over, it’s their job. But the first two years, when they had no leverage, was when Obama really had his shot.
That said, he is going to get re-elected because he got Bin Laden.
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think even Obama can fix that penalty kill fiscal deficit
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
so you're saying you hate velcro and memory foam?
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Velcro wasn’t created by NASA (memory foam was).
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so were
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09201/985039-51.stm
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Velcro got its first break when it was used in the aerospace industry to help astronauts maneuver in and out of bulky space suits. However, this reinforced the view among the populace that Velcro was something with very limited utilitarian uses. The next major use Velcro saw was with skiers, who saw the similarities between their costume and the astronauts, and thus saw the advantages of a suit that was easier to don and remove. Scuba and marine gear followed soon after. After seeing astronauts storing food pouches on walls14, children’s clothing makers came onboard.13 As Velcro only became widely used after NASA’s adoption of it, NASA is popularly — and improperly — credited with its invention.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velcro
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You’re out of your mind.
The gov’t pays for products. Those products drive innovation in technology and pay the salaries of engineers, scientists, machinists, people who support their work (secretaries, security, etc.).
Those people in turn buy houses and food and cars and support other people.
tl;dr the gov’t spending money to make jobs is good. People get paid and eat and we all benefit from the knowledge generated during the process.
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by Bower Power on Jan 9, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Needs more N1. They tried to copy the Saturn V, but basically decided “more rockets are better!” Never got them to fire simultaneously (because there were 30 freakin engines), and all four launches resulted in catastrophic failure.
The space race, for Russia, was a war of attrition.
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New post over on Bleeding Blue 'N White
PPP’s very own commenter TheCeej has become a blogger and here is his virgin post: TheCeej looked at the shot differential in the shutout against the Jets and how it progressed. He plans on making this into an ongoing series of his. Enjoy!
(This is copied straight from yesterday’s FTB. Also it is shameless self and TheCeej-promotion)
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Question for you smart stats guys. There’s gotta be a better way to build my spreadsheet than just putting in shot times by had from the nhl.com game summary. Any tricks?
Didn’t someone make an automatic program to do this already? It was at copper n blue or arctic ice hockey i believe..
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by theninjagreg on Jan 9, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
I’m sure someone has, not sure if it is widely available or not. I doubt I have the expertise to write one myself, although I could try,
I know someone did, can’t find it though…
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by theninjagreg on Jan 9, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Here it is
http://behindthenet.ca/TOR_2011.html
Doesn’t have shot differential but close to what you want..
For example, the Leafs-WPG game: http://behindthenet.ca/Shots_2011_20562.html
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by theninjagreg on Jan 9, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Though your charts are prettier ;)
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by theninjagreg on Jan 9, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Ya you’ll have to write a scraper like I did for my Super Shot Search thingy. I’ve actually written 3 for shot locations, time on ice, and play by play.
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by theninjagreg on Jan 9, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
kinda the wrong place to ask i guess
but i was with a Brock Prof. at the Ice Dogs game on Saturday and he’s doing some research on why people are leaving professional sports as fans.
if anyone knows someone who’s stopped watching the NHL and wouldn’t mind being interviewed you can send them my e-mail and i can pass their info on – selvig56@gmail.com .
Which Brock Prof if you don’t mind me asking? (I probably had one of her classes…seems like it’d be in my wheelhouse)
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I have no idea what’s going on with Kulemin (other than some bad luck, but that doesnt explain it all) – 4 goals in 41 games? He isn’t going to get a raise if this keeps up.
I’d rather he play well, to be honest. Because he’s still an RFA, he wouldn’t have gotten a huge raise anyways. He;s actually performing so bad we can’t even trade him for a good return if we wanted to.
I don’t know that trading Kulemin is that good of an idea anyway. It is probably safe to say he overachieved last year but also is underachieving this year. Despite not scoring, he’s still got an excellent two way game.
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Oh I agree, I’m just saying if he were playing as well as last year or almost as well (say 30 goal pace) he could easily be a piece to move for someone like Getzlaf or Ryan.
No way, Kulemin is our 3rd line winger of the future. Imagine him with Armstrong and Bozak when healthy. That’d dominate nearly every 3rd line in the league.
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Armstrong won’ be here next year..
Kulemin + Bozak + Frattin would be a much better 3rd line with lots of scoring potential.
Changing my "Goat of The Year" player from Armstrong to Kulemin
He signed a 3 year contract. Do you think he is being traded?
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I thought this was is 3rd year..
*goes running to gap
oh crap.. signed the extension afer his first year as a leaf..
Still think Frattin would be a better 3rd line player than armstrong
Changing my "Goat of The Year" player from Armstrong to Kulemin
Extension?
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 9, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
No extension, he was signed to a 3-year deal.
by Goosemonster on Jan 9, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
I’m still holding out hope that Kulemin will become this decade’s Jere Lehtinen.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 9, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
In this fantasy world does Colby Armstrong not miss 20 games every time he gets touched?
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by Chemmy on Jan 9, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What did we do to him? he was so healthy before he got here.
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Kadri and Kulemin for Mike Richards.
/sigh
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Eh, its not like Burke turned it down. Laviolette never called back.
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Holmgren.
Still, what could have been
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Well, obviously if a deal for a top player comes along, trade trade trade, but IFF on that one. I wouldn’t trade Kulemin for minor deals or a marginal upgrade just because he only has 4 goals this year.
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That was the rumoured trade
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I believe it was confirmed that that trade was being discussed.
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Lupul M Richards Kessel
Plus Richards is amazing on the PK.
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OK, come back to the present where we are obsessing over the potential deals for Getzlaf.
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I’m still upset about that one.
I’m one of the few but I would rather have Richards than Getzlaf, and spare me the stats please
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And I am one of the few who would rather Carter than Richards. And yes I am aware how much of a better season Richards is having in LA.
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I’m not sure that’s as much a minority as you might think. I’d probably take Richards over Getzlaf, largely because of the cost controlled contract.
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He has already played 2 games there (2G and 4 pts)
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beat me to it. A 2 PPG would be real good for his confidence before coming to the Marlies next year (my guess is he doesn’t do an overage, but I suppose its possible)
here’s hoping a first round upset for London and McKegg can help the Marlies out on their playoff run this year.
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I don’t know. Though, it’ll be a Maatta of time before we get all the Faksa straight.
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by Frag on Jan 9, 2012 9:34 AM EST reply actions 6 recs
And... the inevitable...
What the Faksa Maatta with you?
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by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions 11 recs
As a Maatta o’ Faksa…
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by theninjagreg on Jan 9, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Just the Faksa, Maatta
/dragnetted
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 9, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Hello Maatta, hello Faksa,
I am gone to camp granata
/okay,that’sastretch
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Great
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by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
I thought it may take someone of your ilk to appreciate that one.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Did anyone hear
Komisarek’s pre game interview before Detroit when discussing all the players chirping Dion’s face bruise?
he said one of them was " Hey Dion, you need to take the chew out of the tin before you put it in your mouth."
I was just dying laughing at that.
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the Brownbeaut thing on TSN was pretty funny too, it does seem like this young group of guys have a good sense of humour and are forming a real team spirit.
All the players hate Wilson.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 9, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
If indeed Murray wanted Reimer, he can take a hike. We aren’t trading our #1 goalie, even if its for a top player. Burke just won’t do that. Gus? I could see him as part of a deal, but not Reimer. No way. Might as well just give up tryign to make the playoffs this year.
Interesting development
Hiller left the game with an injury yesterday. I’m guessing Burke waits for the diagnosis and then offers a package of Gustavsson+Grabbo+Schenn+pick for Getzlaf+pick. Maybe more though as he should try to reacquire Beauchemin as well.
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I don’t think he’l reacquire Beauch for optics sakes (not his optics, but Anaheim’s). If we offer that for Getzlaf, I’d want to have permission to talk to him about an extension beforehand. He only has one more year, then he is UFA, and I wouldn’t want to lose him if we are going to give up a young piece of our core (Schenn; some disagree, but Burke’s contract says he views him that way). We also will probably need to take salary for that to happen, not sure who Anaheim could throw in.
Wonder if there’d be more interest in Owuya than Gus.
by A Lindros Jaw on Jan 9, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
No.
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by SkinnyFish on Jan 9, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Scrivens?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
No.
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by SkinnyFish on Jan 9, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
no you won’t trade him, or no they’re not interested. because if ANA is trading Getzlaf they’re probably not doing so for a 27 year old backup
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They need an actual goalie going the other way.
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by BCapp on Jan 9, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
all pieces are cornerstones. grabbo’s probalby not included either.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
Any trade proposal for Getzlaf that does not include Colborne/Kadri isn’t happening. We all know that.
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OMG if that could acquire Getz? Count me in.
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I think any deal for Getzlaf includes at least one of Kadri or Colborne.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 9, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
I still think that’s an either or thing.. they get either Schenn or Kadri or Colborne not 2 of 3
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Did you read the VLM comments?
The first commenter says Simmons was advocating trading Kessel for Getzlaf.
Is this a thing? Did this actually happen?
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No, just dumb.
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by SkinnyFish on Jan 9, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Its Steve Simmons…………
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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 9, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It depresses me that he gets paid way more money than me, is afforded access to the team, can go to games, and writes stuff that poor. I can shit something more intelligent than that out in 30 min. or less
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
It’s a free market. If you want that job go get it.
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I got to look at the job description.
Apparently under Skills & Qualifications, it lists “Advanced use of ellipses” as a requirement.
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No worries, pretty sure Simmons skipped every course.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 9, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Welcome to life!
9 out of 10 people doing jobs will, if you pause for a moment, be found to be operating in just such a manner.
Exhibit A = The Calgary Flames.
Exhibit B = The Liberal Party of Canada.
Exhibit C = The Sunbeam Corporation of America, makers of truly shitty heating pads, which fuck off and die when you turn them on, twice in a row now.
/killallthesepeopleandtaketheirjobs
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by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Poor bastard. They suckered another one. Sutter’s your assistant.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
No, but he should try writing high. They can make it a weekly stream-of-consciousness column, called “Steve’s Stoned”, and just opining about hockey. I think it’d be a notable improvement over the current filler he shovels out.
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by Bower Power on Jan 9, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He started writing high back in ’89.
These things take their toll.
/cocainehelluvadrug
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by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
FIRE SIMMONS!!!
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 9, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
How dumb does Columbus look for passing up Dineen now?
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Hitchcock who’s now got the Blues in a four-way tie for 3rd in the league?
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meanwhile, whenever talks of firing Wilson came up, everyone said “yeah, but who do we replace him with?”
I guess we have our answer.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
the Leafs could have replaced Wilson with Hitchcock and it probably would have been an upgrade.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
i’m not saying that they necessarily should have, but to say that we shouldn’t fire Wilson because there’s no one to replace him absurd. there are tons of people around who can coach quite well.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
St. Louis had great underlying stats before Hitchcock took over. It was a dumb firing. I doubt Hitchcock did much of anything to improve the team other than happenning to be around when their luck turned. If he’s really such a great coach, how come CBJ was so useless when he was there?
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by Draglikepull on Jan 9, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
but isn’t this almost exactly like the Bylsma case?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
The narrative with Bylsma is he coached the Penguins into the playoffs without Crosby so he must be great.
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by theninjagreg on Jan 9, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
I am really starting to dislike that word “narrative”.
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by leafer1984 on Jan 9, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
My list pretty much begins and ends with “Confirmation Bias.” It seemed like it went like it wasn’t here one day and the next, it’s all I see.
/InsertsownconfirmationbiasjokebeforeanybodyelsegetsthechanceI’montoyouguysbythispointmuahahahahahaha
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
/knewyou’dmakethatjoke
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by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
It can be both. I think Bylsma is a good coach, but he got a chance because of bad puck luck for Michel Therrien.
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according to drag’s post, Therrien had good puck luck, but was a worse coach.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, the Pens had a high SH% and high SV% during Therrien’s last season, but they were an awful puck possession team. Bylsma turned them into a well above average possession team.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 9, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Excuse me sir, they just regressed to the mean
/asshole’d
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I wanted to say that but I’m not enough of a jerk to do it.
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I was being facetious dude. I would think you would know me better than that
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this doesn't look
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
What I see is Halak regressing to his mean and Elliot playing like a man possessed.
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so Hitchcock literally has nothing to do with their success?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
Dude, it was a joke. I think its pretty fuckin clear he does.
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my sense of humor is still asleep.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
my sense of humor isstill asleepin gestation.
That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.
you’re a dick
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
my day isn’t complete until I see you two fight
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time to pack it in early I guess.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
no fighting. playful banter!
for the record i only take potshots at people i like.
That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.
I don’t
/winning
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by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
<3 <3 <3
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
that doesn’t mean I condone your anti-social behaviour / obsession re: Gus.
That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.
i don’t condone your face!
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
So did you get confirmation on the move back to the great white north?
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still in negotiations, but it’s all but done.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Why do you never take pot shots at me?
/Runs off into the corner crying.
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self promoting posts and now asking for insults?
YEEESH
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Errr, wait a minute here.
St. Louis was fourth in the NHL in possession by virtually every measure when they canned their coach. Not saying Hitchcock has no influence but their record was way low for a team playing as well as they were.
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and i’m not saying that luck has nothing to do with it. but the assumption that a team can’t improve with a new/better coach even if they’re already a good team presumes coaches have little or no effect on the game.
the ‘they have a low PDO and will regress’ to me isn’t a reasonable argument for sticking with a coach when a team is underperforming.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Biggest reason to can a coach, in my mind, would be that it’s a clear message to the team.
What’s that old saying? Coaches are hired to be fired.
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“I think we all took a real good look in the mirror when Davis got fired there and said ‘The onus is on us, there’s no excuse.’”
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
I think the question is why the team is underperforming. It’s not Arniel’s fault that Howson didn’t fix their goaltending problems and that their two big off-season acquisitions have both missed significant time due to injuries and/or suspensions.
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There are other coaching issues, like playing your 19 year old top pick on the 4th line or making him a healthy scratch.
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He has been a healthy scratch SIX times so far this season. He is averaging 13 min on a last place team. Send him back to Portland for fucks sakes.
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I agree. As coach, I am sure he has some input tho
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Taking two guys who have historically been top 10 in the league for puck shooting frequency and playing them on the same line.
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I’m not saying Arniel was a great coach or anything, I just think that among the team’s problems this season, “coaching” isn’t near the top of the list.
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in their last 63 games, they have EIGHT regulation wins
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Columbus has a beautiful confluence of awful:
1. They’re probably a bubble team at best.
2. Their top talent is all hurt
3. Shitty goaltending
4. Bad puck luck
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Columbus’ PDO = 979.
It is, of course, Arniel’s fault that they’re shooting at 6.6% and Howson didn’t fix their goaltending problem.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 9, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Owuya is sent back to the Royals after posting 5-2-1 record with the Marlies and a 1.78 GAA.
Sooooooo… how ’bout that goalie depth?
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But……….he was just recalled from there…….where’d you hear he was sent back down?
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That’s a rec’n
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How can you say “that’s a rec’n” and then not actually rec the post? Blatant false advertising!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
I did rec it.
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hmmm… there must be some kind of a delay on rec’s showing up then.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
You have to refresh the page for rec’s that have appeared since you opened the page to show.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 9, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Someday, there’ll be a final reckoning for guys like you.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
yup, but one we’ll have to solve for next year. Scrivens is getting up there in age (25), and Owuya is clearly destryoing the ECHL, and in need of stronger competition.
Rynnas and Gus are let go in the offseason.
Owuya in the A Scrivens backs up Reimer.
If Reimer does not refind his game by the end of the year, Scrivens in the A and we hopefully get an NHL ready goaltender.
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e hopefully get an NHL ready goaltender
that sounds familiar….
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
Hey I am hopeful for that every year.
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What if Gus leads the Leafs to the Playoffs.. does Burke resign him?
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by Goosemonster on Jan 9, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Reimer needs to “refind” his game? ES-SVP suggests the PK needs to find theirs, and that’s about it.
And I’m not sure why you’d let Rynnas go. He has got a .908 on the season, sure, but hell, so does Scrivens, and Rynnas just posted back to back shutouts, so there’s a possibility he swings up from there.
Re-sign Rynnas, move Gus to Tampa or the now-possible Anaheim (or let him walk – who cares?), Scrivens to back up Reimer, Rynnas/Owuya fight on the depth chart, Sparks stays in the O for his third year.
I think we’re better off keeping the G prospect pipeline moving than trying to bid for anyone on this list. Although, now that I notice it, I really, really want someone to give Huet an NHL shot, just for the shits of it.
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I said find an NHL goaltender instead of sign one because I know what that list looks like (though I would be all for signing Harding or MOntoya).
In regards to Reimer we can discuss the PK all we want but his overall sv% is poor and it is making me way to nervous to want to roll with him plus a rookie (Scrivens).
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.910 in the AHL isn’t exactly screaming “we’d be stupid not to re-sign him”
Without spoiling too much, this is probably a conversation we’ll be having again in an hour when #22 goes up.
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No way I’m reading that crappy, attack-dog piece of urinalism now.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
appropriate adjustments
I think this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody’s part someone to give Huet an NHL shot… And we’re just the guys to do it.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
And we’re just the guys to do it.
Oh god no. He’s been off playing in France for two years. Let Chicago do it – it’s their fault he’s over there in the first place.
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It must suck to get paid $5,625,000 to play hockey in France.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jan 9, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
oh Switzerland, that makes it worse
what with the chocolate and watches
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
and with their bomb rigged bridges and sheds that aren't sheds but actually missile silos
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 9, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
I doubt they let go of both Gus and Rynnas. One, yes, both, I don’t think so. Too much goaltending depth to give up on in one season.
by Goosemonster on Jan 9, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
SO would I
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Maybe, but if Gus keeps playing this well he may have trade value worth more than re-signing him.
by Goosemonster on Jan 9, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t laugh at it. He’s proving himself to be a decent back-up, and there are teams desperate for a goalie that don’t want to pay a high price (TBL, CBJ, maybe ANA, EDM, others perhaps)
by Goosemonster on Jan 9, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not saying we’ll get a lot for him, but if a team is close to the playoffs come trade deadline and desperate for a goalie…there’s not many available.
by Goosemonster on Jan 9, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
You just named four of the six worst teams in the league.
Why the hell would they try and trade for somebody who’s a minor upgrade over what they have now when the best thing going for them right now is a lotto pick?
Even when Burke screwed up the Leafs lottery pick by bringing in Gerber he didn’t give up any assets. He grabbed Gerber off of waivers.
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I thought that was Fletcher.
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YOUR WRONG!
Burke was hired in November of that year.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 9, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
In fairness to Gerber he was nice enough to get that suspension
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by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 9, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
I’m OK with Gus and James.Gus has a high compete level and is quietly becoming a more consistent goalie
What does that even mean
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It means he tries hard, which you can determine by looking at the TRYHRD% QoC (how a player tries relative to the competition they are playing)
by Goosemonster on Jan 9, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Before you guys go all “PPP” on him, I’m willing to let that label slide for any player who had two heart surgeries in 2 years and still playing in the league.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
I had written Gustvasson off at the start of the season at the start of last season…
But he looks different this year, more controlled. I can’t even remember the last time a soft goal.
Has he given up on the Allaire system completely? Any truth in that?
If this is how he plays, doing it his way, than I like this new Gustavvson, and I’m glad that Wilson will ride him until he loses.
I’ve reopened my view on Gustavvson and see how he plays out.
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3 consecutive wins does not a new Gustavsson make.
In the court of public opinion, Steve Simmons is Lionel Hutz.
No but I agree, and I think this can be backed up by video, but he is giving up fewer goals as a result of him overplaying a pass or oversliding or whatever… he’s moving a lot less in net, which will ideally lead to better results
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
I’m just saying that before the Tampa-Winnipeg-Detroit string of games, no one was talking about a new Gustavsson. That, and the fact that he’s had stretches like this before.
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8-2-0 with .922 in last 10 gp
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
12 wins, 7 losses..
That’s a 103+ point pace if he played 82 games…
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We can all agree that a goalie putting up a .901 isn’t likely to lead a team to 103 points, right?
This isn’t meant to cut Gustavsson down.
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Chicago – Pace for 106 – Goalie Crawford – .901
Philadelphia – Pace 104 – Goalie Mr. Universe – .891
And yeah, I know that Bryzgalov is actually hurting the flyers, and their backup Bob is picking up the slack.
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You’ve cherry picked two examples.
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I found two examples that disproved your statement..
It’s not like I’m using “from Nov 1st to Dec 18th, only using home games, etc”…
And I admitted that the flyers example wasn’t the best since Bob was picking up the slack
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I’ll go back to previous years and see if teams have add luck passing 100 points with 0.903 goaltending from their main goalie.
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Last year, no team hit 100 points with sub par goaltending.
Howard (Detroit) had the lowest save percentage at 0.910)
And I’m going to ignore Bower Power’s reply..
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Do as you like, but once Chemmy adds conditional statement, you’re really not disproving it. Now, if it was an absolute, you’d be right, but as we all know, only Sith use absolutes.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
only Sith use absolutes.
This statement is an absolute. meaning the Jedi are Sith.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
True, from a certain point of view.
by Peter Lynn on Jan 9, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
aka confirmation bias
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 9, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Ob.
Search your feelings, you know it to be true
My reaction exactly the first time I heard that line.
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Jan 9, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
disproved your statement
No you didn’t. A goalie putting up a .901 isn’t likely to lead a team to 103 points. You just found two goalies whose teams are defying the odds.
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Columbus – Pace for last – Goalie Mason – .882
Anaheim – Pace for really bad – Goalie Hiller – .898
So, as long as we have Toews or Giroux, we’ll by fine.
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We do, we have Kessel
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I don’t think he’s given up on the Allaire style. Was there some kind of talk/speculation that he had? From what I see during the games, he still go down fairly early and keeps a pretty tight butterfly formation.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Gustavsson has played much better this season.
“Compete level” and “consistent” are silly catchall terms.
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How do we measure “works hard”? These terms are used when a player is winning and aren’t particularly enlightening.
It’s like how every player that gets traded was “bad in the room”.
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Mike Brown works hard. (Vintage) Alex O. played hard, but I wouldn’t call him a hard worker. I think ‘hard worker’ is more a label about a player’s tendency to float.
Why does Mike Brown work hard compared to NHL players?
How do you know Mike Brown works hard compared to NHL players?
Because he’s a fourth liner? Because he’s “gritty”?
Stamkos shot 1,000 pucks a day, every day, for like 15 years on top of the rest of his workout routine. Is he not a hard worker? Does he score too much to be a hard worker?
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Im in your side, but some people just are much more naturally talented than some. Some people need to work harder in some aspects. DO we know who those people are and if they do? No we don’t
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DO we know who those people are and if they do? No we don’t
That’s all I’m saying man.
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/high five
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That’s weak. I expect better from you.
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On the first sentence too IIRC. Blowing it early eh buddy…
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I agree with you, I think that label is just applied to those who are NHL’ers despite not having much in the way of natural talent.
In my mind there’s no question that players like Stamkos work in all likelihood harder than Mike Brown type players.. but Stamkos is unquestionably gifted with talent that Brown doesn’t have
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
“Works hard” is a stupid label.
I hear this quote from Christmas Vacation every time someone says it.
“But he worked hard Dad”
“So do washing machines”.
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I think people identify with players like Mike Brown more because they seem closer to them on an everyman level.
Players like Stamkos and Crosby have spent their entire lives honing a very, very particular skillset, but have obviously been granted talents beyond the average mortal.
Mike Brown and fourth-liners of his ilk, on the other hand, could very well have been you, except they “tried a little harder” and managed to make the big time. It’s a hell of a narrative and a very easy way to get wish-fulfillment fans on their side.
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Yep. I think one of the reasons people loved Tim Brent is because a lot of people relate to him because he seemed like a normal guy who worked hard and got to play for his favourite team/
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It’s easier to relate to someone who’s known for hitting than someone who’s known for dangling. I bet there are a lot more people out there who think they could do Tim Brent’s job than, say, a “floater” like Kessel.
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I suggested a reason: not floating, or not taking shifts off. This does mean different things for different players. If Brown doesn’t go to the corners and bang people when he has a chance, you should (rightly) say that he isn’t giving his all, given his role. This rarely happens (or is it confirmation bias?) and so he gets the label working hard.
With scorers, it’s different. Some go to the hard areas of the ice, others don’t. Some backcheck diligently, others float in the neutral zone for that breakaway pass. Yes, I cannot quantify any of this into a stat, but I’m sure these are the types of plays that the videotape guys circle time and time again with hair-pulling regularity for certain players.
In short, ‘hard-worker’ is perhaps a euphemism for ‘does not float.’
But ‘does not float’ is often a euphemism for ‘legs move faster’
Have you ever watched Dion Phaneuf skate? He looks like he’s gliding without any real effort. It’s because he’s a large man with a long skating stride and so his stride doesn’t have to give off the appearance that he’s working very hard.
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I’ve noticed the same thing. He is a weird skater
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him and Franson… both sometimes seem like they stopped skating.
Although with long legs, that extra stride could put them out of play/position
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Although with long legs, that extra stride could put them out of play/position
Yes thats what puts them out of position. Their skating
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Heads Up
There are Piranhas waiting around here to crucify anyone who shares a subjective opinion that can’t be quantified.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
If you have a subjective opinion share it as such. Saying “he has a high compete level” is obfuscating your intention: you like the way he plays and want it to sound like there’s some sort of objective reason that backs up your viewpoint.
Just say you like the guy.
“I like Jonas Gustavsson. I like to watch him play.”
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I like Jonas Gustavsson. I like to watch him play
VRN?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
No, VRN would replace “like” with “love”.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 9, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
And accuse everyone not recognizing that he’s the greatest goalie of his generation if you take out these games.
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If you take out all the games he doesn’t win, he never loses!
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Jonas Gustavsson has a 1.000 SV% on shots he doesn’t let in.
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by clrkaitken on Jan 9, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
He has a GAA of 0.00 in periods in which he was not scored on.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 9, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
you guys are all dicks.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Except for the periods of time in which we are not being dicks.
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by clrkaitken on Jan 9, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
no. it’s a trait or character not a trait of circumstances.
you’re always a dick and always will be.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
VRN old boy, I believe it's time to wheel out the ULTIMATE INSULT
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by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
We should nick name him “Sex Panther”
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by nolan_21 on Jan 9, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i literally did laugh out loud at this one.
"You have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else."
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 9, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
you know, sometimes people actually do break down stats that way:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/4718/situational;_ylt=AqkTNbUL1gGGjb25L0gS28FivLYF
asshole
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
If only we played against Tampa more. Stupid NHLPA is conspiring against Gustavsson.
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i do get a little tingly down there when I read his name in starting line-ups.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
I like Jonas Gustavsson. I touch myself when he plays
VRN?
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
by birky on Jan 9, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ok, seriously?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
You’re seriously asking if he seriously thinks you touch yourself at the sight of Gustavsson? Seriously?
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obviously i know he’s joking. but how many people have to keep piling it on.
let me just save everyone the trouble and admit once and for all that i’m secretly Gus gay lover and that i masturbate when i watch him play and when i go to sleep i fantasize about having sex with him on the ice while we both stop more than .935 of the shots we face.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ok this conversation is getting a little weird and outta hand
When losing an argument on the internet, be sure to attack someones grammar. That is the only way to save face.
so that’s where the line is?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
To the line… but not out.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I may be alone on this one but I think that comment should be your new signature.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jan 9, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that’s what you took away from that?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Well, there was the fact that you didn’t capitalize “let” at the beginning of your sentence, but I was gonna let that one go.
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 9, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
seriously?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
We are going to need the stats on how the term “heads up” actually assists someone in their preparation. I suggest you include charts and at least 3yrs worth of data. Otherwise it is to small a sample size.
When losing an argument on the internet, be sure to attack someones grammar. That is the only way to save face.
by SPERO on Jan 9, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It just does
…argue with that!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
It was either Kypreos or McGuire who would always say ‘he really brings the compete’ or some such shit. it’s ridiculous.
That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.
Pierre Maguire would say that.
HIs compete level is off the charts
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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He would even drop ‘level’ sometimes though and just call it ‘the compete’. Who the fuck does he think he is just making a verb into a noun like that?
That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.
You can’t noun a verb unless you first verb a noun.
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Jan 9, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
That would awesome be.
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Jan 9, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Peirre retards English
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 9, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
They weren’t surgeries. Calling them surgeries really doesn’t appreciate what they are. They are often day procedures and you are not put out.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
They were just heart “procedures”…
A fleshwound..
Changing my "Goat of The Year" player from Armstrong to Kulemin
Scrape the game logs of every goalie, rank them all in terms of game by game SV% standard deviation.
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Scrivens and Rynnas both have .908s on the season. I mean, uh, “goalie who dominated the SEL for a year turns out to be too good for ECHL” just seems like “yeap.” to me. It’s a long road to the NHL.
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Random stat I just learned while updating fantasy roster.
Patrice Bergeron is +26.
In a half of a season.
That’s unreal.
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He is very good at hockey
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When your goalies have a 0.938 and 0.949 I am much less impressed. He is also 4th on the team behind Marchand, Seguin, and Chara, and the incredible Boychuck is a +22. Even Benoit Pouliot is a +15.
Further, none other than Jeff Schultz has the highest +/- since the lockout with a +50.
It is simply a stupid stat. (But yes Bergeron is a great player).
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
by BCapp on Jan 9, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
YOu mean potential olympian Jeff Schultz?
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Am I missing something?
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
yup
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Fucking Ottawa and their come from behind wins. Ottawa leads the league with a .300 win rate when trailing after 2. Theyve come from behind to win 6 times. On the other hand, the Leafs have only done it once but have much much better percentages when leading after 1 and 2.
Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.
Fucking Ottawa and their come from behind wins. Ottawa leads the league with a .300 win rate when trailing after 2. Theyve come from behind to win 6 times. On the other hand, the Leafs have only done it once but have much much better percentages when leading after 1 and 2.
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
by Learn2Leaf on Jan 9, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions 9 recs
The Leafs are 15-0-0 when leading after 2 periods.
Considering this team’s MO since the lockout was to cough up leads in the 3rd that’s an effing fantastic stat.
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yup, now if we’re going to lose we let fans know early.
by Goosemonster on Jan 9, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
we need to collectively stop giving a shit about ottawa. it’s starting to look bad how much figurative ink is being spilled here about how much they don’t matter.
That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.
agreed. don’t care who does/doesn’t make the playoffs. the only thing that matters is that the Leafs get in with as high a seed as possible.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
how great would it be to re-live the old days with a first-round playoff domination vs Ottawa?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
yep. if ottawa’s playing above their head and f-ing themselves / their future, great. if they’re not and they’ve somehow miraculously righted the ship, it will be the most surprising turn of the year. everyone – fans, media, haters – figured they were pretty much f’d this year. us griping about it isn’t going to change anything.
That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.
If this keeps up much longer we’ll be like Habs fans who never shut up about the Leafs. ie. all of them.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 9, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
Random but for my own catharsis
Anyone else think Ian White looks like Cheddar Bob from 8 mile? http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0428055/
Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.
related: kris versteeg vs peter frampton
you might not even be able to tell them apart.
That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.
by daoust on Jan 9, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Fuck Versteeg.
Do you feel like I do?
Either you have an enviable memory, or a pitiable life, to know nothing of regret.
- Sten, of the Qunari
by GreatKingRat on Jan 9, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions 9 recs
Do you feel…..do…do…do you feel…..OH COME ON, DO YOU FEEL?
Homer Simpson takes my pig, Cypress Hill steals my orchestra, and Sonic Youth is in my cooler.
TWEET AT ME BRO
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 9, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
WOw.
Well done
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Random thought
I forgot to mention this over the weekend, but from watching Boston play Vancouver on Saturday, it struck me that the Leafs (and really the rest of the league) don’t seem to capitalize on one of the Bruins big weaknesses: their toughness. I’ve seen all sorts of commentators talk about how much of an asset their “team toughness” is, but it seems to me that it could be used as a double edged sword.
Lucic, Horton, and (to some extent) Chara will all drop the gloves when the game gets a little rough, landing 3 of the Bruins better players in the penalty box for at least 5 minutes. What I wonder is, whether it would be an effective strategy to go into the game trying to goad those guys into getting themselves into penalty trouble and/or kicked from the game. As Cherry pointed out Burrows 2 slashes put the Canucks on the PP and resulted in Lucic getting kicked and Horton having to sit for 5 min.
It’s a risky strategy to be sure, but I would gladly have Lucic, Horton, and especially Chara sitting in the box after throwing down w/ Orr or Rosehill (or even Komi) than playing.
Though of course the downside to this strategy is that it would require a lot of discipline from the Leafs not to be the ones taking penalties… something I’m not sure they can do
fuck Dale Weise. That was a chicken shit thing to do
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agreed, though I wasn’t sure why he had to fight Thorton in the first place. he already fought….someone.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
I agree, but if you’re chirping and you guys are gonan go, don’t skate away.
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I’d throw away a January game to get a shot at kicking the shit out of Alex Burrows (who should have been tossed for spearing Thornton btw)
Marchand is an absolute piece of shit, and I can’t believe the Bruins had yet another automatic suspension overturned.
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Yeah he really should have been, but seriously the Leafs should to some extent do something similar as it’s way better than getting destroyed 7-0.
Also, yeah I thought it was interesting how the league will try to find any justification NOT to suspend Lucic
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, really makes you want to join the tinfoil hat crazies with all the suspensions the Bruins weasel out of.
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Free to roam the blueline.
"Ville Leino may stink but he’s still way better than Matt Ellis."
cough Colin Campbell still exerts influence Cough
excuse me.
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Recent history against Boston aside, i think Chara’s the biggest piece of shit in the league as it is because he jumps into virtually every scrum throwing bombs and never gets the Third Man In misconduct he richly deserves.
I would love for some asshole to pull Marchand’s stunt on Chara and just completely trash his knee.
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by clrkaitken on Jan 9, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
hipchecks
No one said shit about these. I thought Marchands was dirty, but these 2 were as well and not even a penalty on either
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Did you see Marchand’s defense that “well I’m only 5’9” and I saw this giant defenseman bearing down on me"
I started laughing thinking, oh god if that defense works, that gives everyone in the NHL free rein to submarine Chara
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Absolutely agree, but the Leafs need to grab him next time, pull him out of the pile and at least force him to take a 5 for fighting. Giving Kessel/Lupl 5 Chara-less minutes
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
And what happens when they start playing cheap against our top players…possibly/probably/mostlikely injuring them?
Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.
they already play pretty physical against all our top players, and knowing Boston its always a strong possibility that they’ll take cheap shots anyhow, I don’t see how doing it right back to them would be bad.
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
They mess more with a team like Vancouver because they’ve been messed with by them. If we piss them off I’m scared of what will happen to our vulnerable good players, especially since we don’t really have any good agitators to back them up.
Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.
Well at the core of what I was trying to say was that we’ve dressed Orr/Rosehill against Boston in most/all of the games against Boston this season, but I don’t think they’ve been used correctly. They should be sent out there with specific instructions NOT to drop the gloves with Thornton or Campbell, but to A) try to get Lucic or Horton to drop the gloves and B) protect our players.
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
A) If Orr and Rosehill arne’t in the line-up to fight why are they in the line-up? Considering Orr just got sent down to the Marlies I think this question has been answered.
B) If Orr and Rosehill are on the ice against Lucic and Horton they’ll be too busy scoring to get goaded into a fight. Also the only guy on the Leafs Horton goes after is Phaneuf thanks to a long-standing rivalry between their two caves.
C) The best way for the Leafs to beat Boston is to net get ECHL level goaltending everytime they play.
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by clrkaitken on Jan 9, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
As I said, risky strategy, but if you can get Horton and/or Lucic off the ice, the Leafs stand a better chance of winning the game.
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah then they only have Krecji, Bergeron, Seguin, Marchand and Peverley to worry about, plus they’re guaranteed a 920 in net from either Thomas or Rask.
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and the Leafs are only minus Orr or Rosehill or maybe Komisarek… how is that not good for the Leafs?
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Because Lucic and Horton like scoring goals.
This plan sounds like it was devised by Reg Dunlop.
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I may or may not have also watched Slapshot this weekend
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
jumps into virtually every scrum
You wouldn’t be talk about this one where there were 6 Canucks (in the middle of a line chage) attacking one bruin? I think Chara has every right to protect his teammates. It’s no different than any other player standing up for a teammate (except that he’s a 6’8" gargoyle).
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve seen him do it in several other games too (the one in Carolina earlier this season springs to mind, though he did get a fighting major for that one)
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
This passionate hate on Chara deserves a rec’in
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 9, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Ideally, that’s what kind of game Colby brings – total nusience.
by Goosemonster on Jan 9, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
He’s one of the top Leafs at drawing penalties. That’s the best kind of shit-disturbing there is.
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Jan 9, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
True, he does draw an inordinate amount of penalties. But when we signed him I was hoping/expecting to see him be more of a nuisance to the other team, more “getting in their kitchen”, if you will.
Do you not remember him giving Avery (or some Ranger) the big “boo-hoo” face.
Or getting Ben Eager to give away the 9-3 game against the Thrashers by sucker-punching Army?
Or because it didn’t happen this year does it not count?
It’s kind of hard to be a nuisance when you can’t stay on the damn ice.
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To be fair I don’t think he’s played for any stretch of time long enough to do any shit disturbing
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
hard to shit-disturb from the top of the ACC.
by Goosemonster on Jan 9, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Winnipeg needs to sign Penner to play with Big Buff and Wellfed. The Buffet Line
Dustin Penner knocked out of line-up by eating "delicious pancakes."
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 9, 2012 10:45 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
This guy is not getting more than $2M a year in his next contract, if that.
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Eh, Wellwood’s consistently managed to find work even after getting run out of Toronto. Some GM is going to look at him and think “I’ll be the one that changes him” and then be sorely disappointed. Oh God Burke don’t let it be you
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
Sounds like every girl that thinks they can settle down the bad boy.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 9, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Wellwood was able to transition into a defensive centre role in order to keep getting a job.
Penner’s a big man who isn’t playing like one and a scorer who isn’t putting up points. Not a lot of demand for a guy like that.
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His career’s nosedived like Cheechoo’s, but I can’t shake the feeling someone is going to give him a shot next year on a low contract
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Cheechoo’s nosedive was much greater going from scoring 40 to an AHLer. Atleast Wellwood is getting an NHL job.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 9, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, except he scored 56
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
They may be cursed… that’s the only explanation.
Crosby, Staal, Neal, Letang all out? How many points is that out of the line-up?
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Oh well.
Fuck them
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by leafer1984 on Jan 9, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
that’s what happens when you sign a deal with the devil to win the Crosby lottery.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
Forecasted Line-up, according to Pensburgh
Sullivan-Malkin-Kennedy
Kunitz-Park-Dupuis
Cooke-Williams-Tangradi
MacIntyre/McDonald-Vitale-Asham
Martin/Michalek
Orpik/Niskanen
Lovejoy/Engelland
Fuck the city that needs a generational talents and a cup contender to get fans into the building. Without the lotto win they are playing in Hamilton
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 9, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Fuck the city that needs a generational talents and a cup contender to get fans into the building.
You mean about 20 of them?
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Screw ’em………….the League gifte them Crosby, getting what they deserve
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Not a good sign
when a team of your injured players could whip a team of your healthy players.
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Jan 9, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
Don’t care, as long as it improves the Leafs’ chances of reaching the postseason.
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I’d feel bad, but with Ottawa somehow tearing it up, someone has to fail to make sure we get a spot in the playoffs.
by Goosemonster on Jan 9, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
yea and Neal still isnt on IR on PPPP2. lazy ass yahoo
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 9, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Win
I’ll attribute that typo to the fact that Burke’s likely dictating his tweets to a PR person who is filtering them for profanity.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jan 9, 2012 11:10 AM EST reply actions
Simply put
Holy shit. Yesterday I did a little fan postencouraging people who suffer/may suffer from depression and the response has been overwhelming. The amount of support that has been offered by the readers of PPP is astounding. I didn’t expect anything like this and can only thank each and every reader who’s taken the time to read or comment. Support like this goes a long long way in helping others
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
by Ghostsof on Jan 9, 2012 11:20 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Everyone go and read this
Ghostof (Kyle) wrote a wonderful piece about a serious issue that is swept under the rug all to offten.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
I’m just glad the message is getting across and people have access to others that are willing to help, just because of your post. Thank you for posting it man.
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by MLS on Jan 9, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Encouraging thought of the day:
The Leafs just got their 21st win in 10 fewer games than last season.
In the court of public opinion, Steve Simmons is Lionel Hutz.
by The Bag on Jan 9, 2012 11:20 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
though we had the 4th best record in the NHL in the second half of last season, something I very, very much doubt we do this year.
by Goosemonster on Jan 9, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Sign me up for that plan.
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Aren’t you a flyers fan?
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FlyerUb?
Either you have an enviable memory, or a pitiable life, to know nothing of regret.
- Sten, of the Qunari
by GreatKingRat on Jan 9, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
How dare you insult Ubiquitous that way!
Riding the Leafs bandwagon since 1991.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 9, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that was wildly uncalled for.
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Jan 9, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
How dare you call into question his Flyers fandom!
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 9, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe I’m getting whoosh’d here, but you are aware that Ubiquitous is not a Flyers fan, right?
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 9, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
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The First Certified Grabbo Lover
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The First Certified Grabbo Lover
Due to a copy-pasting issue, i was mistakenly identified as a Flyers fan. Chemmy proceeded to not help matters at all. Memes ensued.
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Free to roam the blueline.
"Ville Leino may stink but he’s still way better than Matt Ellis."
It wasn’t even copy and pasting. It was just me making a typo.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
It was just me making a typo.
What a surprise.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 9, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ahem (haven't done this since before Cuba)
FUCK YOU PASSIVELYTRUCULENT
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
Don’t you mean “since Cuba”?
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 9, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
There are so many new memes around here, I’ve given up trying to keep up with all of them.
Riding the Leafs bandwagon since 1991.
Check out my art!
by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 9, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
I started a new pop dictionary. then lost interest and abandoned it
by elseldo on Jan 9, 2012 3:24 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Luckily, though, we don’t need the 4th best record in the NHL. 7th best in the East will do from here on out.
In the court of public opinion, Steve Simmons is Lionel Hutz.
I’d like not to squeek in but I’ll take whatever gets us into the playoffs. Though getting destroyed in 4 games is barely more acceptable (say, we finish 8th and play Boston. Easily a 4-game sweep, probably something like 25-2 score combined)
by Goosemonster on Jan 9, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Sure…
But I still rather play Florida or Washington in the first round…
Changing my "Goat of The Year" player from Armstrong to Kulemin
bring on the bruins, fuck those guys. not scared at all
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hell if I’m any other team in the league except a handful, I’d be mighty scared of a playoff series with the Bruins. It’s one of those teams you hope someone else knocks out but get tired/injured doing so, allowing you defeat them.
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by Bower Power on Jan 9, 2012 11:21 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Toronto is on pace to allow the same number of even strength goals, 20 more power play goals and four fewer shorthanded goals than last season
The PK makes me so sad.
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I think this is assuming that the Leaf’s PK doesn’t improve at all in the second half of the season from it’s truly horrible 1st half.
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
The PK hasn’t let in a goal in three games (knock on wood) so it seems to be on the upswing.
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah HNiC mentioned the Leafs hadn’t let in a PP goal in 2 games (at that time) and I started swearing at the TV for jinxing it… luckily it didn’t
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
That said, they didn’t draw a penalty against Tampa and only one against Detroit. So….
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
doesn’t matterhad sexallowed no PP goals
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
By shorthanded do you mean we score a shorthanded goal or were shorthanded and allow a goal.
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Because if its the latter at least we can say were marginally better than last season.
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I’m pretty sure neither, it’s that we will if the pace continues allow 4 fewer shorthanded goals while on the PP
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
If the playoffs started today we’d have our first round since the lockout against the Bruins.
What a treat that’d be.
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Also having teams like Florida be in 3rd place when they really should be in 6th makes the current format really annoying. We’d be 1 point from passing them but if they stay ahead of winnipeg then we’ll never pass them.
Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.
So the goal is to finish 6th and play the Panthers. Right now the Rangers are tops in the east so finishing 8th means playing them.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 9, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
6th really is the golden place. You more than likely are playing someone who very well could be 6th or 7th anyways.
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Probably not this year. Third seed is likely WSH after BOS and NYR.
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And by treat, you mean us bent over, losing all 4 games in absolutely soul-crushingly bad defeat, right?
by Goosemonster on Jan 9, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
We’re just lulling them into a false sense of security during the regular season and then BAM!!! we surprise them in the playoffs
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly, it’s entirely possible Reimer or Gus goes beast mode in the playoffs and we win the series (or Thomas/Rask shits the bed, but that’s less likely).
Hey the season before we signed Gus, he put up something like a .961 in the SEL in the playoffs… the optimist in me thinks that he could do that if we could only make it to the playoffs.
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
The optimist in you should prepare for disappointment.
In the court of public opinion, Steve Simmons is Lionel Hutz.
…. well until it’s proven wrong, it works out like that in my head.
Also, Leafs win in Toronto in game 6, Kessel has 2 goals and an assist, both goals assisted by Liles. Boston is playing Rask in Game 6 due to an underwhelming performance by Thomas in the first couple games of the series. The crowd starts either a “Thank You Kessel” or “Thank you Boston” chant (I’m kind of impartial on which one) in the dying seconds.
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 9, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Then what happens in game 7? Because there’s no way the Leafs take it in six
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
More fuel for the fire
LeafsBB20 Brian Burke
@TML_Crystal We’ll do 24/7 as a part of a Winter Classic, not as a stand-alone. If the NHL asks, we do it. Generally, a US team is involved.
You’ll note that Burke sadi “a” U.S. team and not “two” U.S. teams. Sounds like this is happenning, friends.
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@M_StathNYR I am not sure if I will be there or not. A great barn there. Great fans and a superb coaching staff.
I don’t know what RIT is, but it sounds like Burke thinks it would be a great place to fight another GM.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 9, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Is it the institute of hockey technology? Cuz then he might be on to something
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Rochester Institute of Technology?
by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 9, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Ah Rochester. The place I stop to get gas on my way to a real city.
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by SPERO on Jan 9, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
wasn’t that one annoying butchy ref in the 2002 womans gold medal game from Rochester?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 9, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
We got Tyler Brenner from there.
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Whats with all the Jays wearing Sens jerseys last night?
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They are trying to be “Canada’s Team”. its bull
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they’re trying to convince anybody they can to give a shit about them. it’s canada, it’s a tough sell so they have to whore themselves out.
it occurred to me it must be weird to be Lawrie hanging out with Maple Leaf players…. they’re probably 10 times more famous / recognized in Toronto, but he’s making boatloads more money than them.
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What about the bottom tier guys? I have seen interesting things looking at how “average” player salaries in each league compare.
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Obviously I don’t know this for certain, but I would wager the average MLB player makes more money than the average NHL player. Even the ones with “low” salaries.
And yet Baseball players’ salaries take the smallest percentage of Leauge revenue out of any NA sports.
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According to the Googles.
Average NHL salary 2011 = 2.4 million
Average MLB salary 2011 (opening day rosters) = 3.3 Million.
Not as far apart as I expected.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 9, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Likely due to MLB teams controlling way more years of players. I wonder what MLB free agents vs. NHL free agents looks like.
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How late do players become FA in baseball? In hockey under the new CBA it would be 24-27 right?
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By new CBA do you mean the existing one?
Because there is no new negotiated CBA. That’s why there’s a slim chance of a lockout.
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Yeah, that becomes a harder comparison between sports, because the bargaining agreements are so different – RFA, UFA, etc, etc. – means that you wouldn’t be comparing apples to apples at all.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 9, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly. So MLB teams have fifty guys making nothing because they’re completely under team control.
After winning rookie of the year and being an integral part of Boston’s 07 WS victory, Dustin Pedroia signed the ink on a whopping $457,000 one year contract.
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The whole Type-A/Type-B free agent thing and the compensatory draft picks that came with them made everything a lot more complicated for mid-range guys. So basically you had either the really cheap players who wouldn’t require compensation or the really expensive guys where you don’t care you’re giving up a pick, you’re signing Albert Pujols. It’s the midrange guys that got screwed. Although I think they’ve adjusted that now
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Just trying to illustrate the difference. If Stamkos won rookie of the year and was a first line elite player on a Cup winner his RFA award would be hysterical.
Pedroia made NHL league minimum.
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Well that almost happened with Crosby didn’t it? When he won the Cup was he at the end of his entry contract or just at the beginning of his subsequent deal?
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
I bet Lawrie’s already getting recognized. He made a pretty big first impression on the city and they’re pushing him in all the Jays ads as well
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Also, Lawrie is a die-hard Canucks fan so it’s amusing to see people get outraged for betraying a Leafs allegiance he never had to begin with.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 9, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Service time is critical for baseball salaries
Lawrie likely makes less than Colton Orr. Once you get to free agent years, however, average players start making multiple millions.
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by Back In Black on Jan 9, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Contributing to the Sens win yesterday
Since they’re Canada’s team and all
Fuck
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Oh man, I was thinking of going easy on him and his outright disgusting habs fandom but now…this changes everything.
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the dude has a baby that’s like 6 weeks old. i’m pretty sure he’s up.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
hmm..and by “up” you mean, “verging on insanity due to complete and systematic lack of sleep” (I have a lot of colleagues with new babies….all I can say is its good birth control)
it sure is.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
You’re going to offer an extraordinary amount of insight into the league? Well, how’s about you do it on my time?
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by Bower Power on Jan 9, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Weigh-In
Who are your Hart Trophy contenders at the midpoint of the season? I think Kessel must be given serious consideration, especially if the Leafs finish 6th or better.
Giroux, Malkin, Kessel
Malkin getting little attention on account of Crosby…leads league in ppg.
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Lundqvist instead of Malkin. He is carrying that Rangers team. Then again he probably gets nominated for the Vezina instead
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 9, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
If Thomas didn’t get the Hart nod last year, ain’t no goalie ever getting it again.
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I think Thomas deserved it last year and Bryzgalov/Miller the year before.
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Mmm’hmm. I think I also take the concept of “most valuable” to literally. Miller’s and Bryz’s impact on their team was more valuable than anyone elses two years ago. That doesn’t mean they were the “best” player just the most “valuable”. /Shrug
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I would rather give it to the most valuable player than just give it to the Art Ross / Rocket award winner (who most people associate with ‘the best’).
They way I saw it is you could take H Sedin (that years winner) off Vancouver and they’ll still do well. Probably drop a few spots. You took Miller off Buffalo two years ago (Lalime was the back up) and they were struggling to stay out of the basement.
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58 point pace with Lalime. Oh lord.
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Exactly. While you can argue whether he was the best, to me it had to be him or Bryz for most “valuable”
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Of my two problems with the Hart trophy, number one is that people don’t realize that it’s supposed to go to “The player most valuable to his team” and not just to the best offensive player or as said above, to the guy who lead the league in goals or points. My other problem is that most people don’t know who it’s named after. Not a big problem and it’s a distant number 2 but it still bugs me a little
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 9, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
Bret’s 5 WWF Heavyweight championships say ‘sup’?
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Put another way: Lalime was slightly better statistically than Gustavsson and Roloson but was 4-8-2 while Gustavsson was 16-15-9 and Roloson was 23-18-7
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The way I looked at it, was what would happen if that player were gone. That would leave you with their back up and a call up from AHL. You can also go league average and I have a feeling he would still come out on top (again or Bryz).
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Apparently Miller would have won it.
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Look at all the goalies in the top 10.
Too bad their performance seems to be so volatile though.
by Shift on Jan 9, 2012 7:42 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I mostly agree. However, this approach makes it hard for a ‘stacked’ team to win MVP (why give it to Gretzky when that team also has Coffeey and Messier and 8 other HoFers), and I’d wager for 2/3 of the league, the goalie is the most important player because goalie is the most important position.
I think it should be like baseball: a pitcher/goalie has to be lightyears ahead of everyone else in order to win it.
I really hate that last part. They shouldn’t. If anything split the award. Most valuable vs best. I think the most valuable is damned important. The truth is those Edmonton teams probably wouldn’t have suffered that much without Gretzky (even though he was the best player in the league).
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I always look at it as a question of who would be your first pick to put together a team for that season, if you had everyone in the league to choose from.
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by Back In Black on Jan 9, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
That is a cool way to look at it. Of course for a one year team (so age isn’t important)
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Exactly. Don’t look at age or salary.
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by Back In Black on Jan 9, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
I like that method. I don’t personally agree with it because I look at who is most valuable to their personal team, but it is a really fun outlook.
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Well, then you get into the issue of depth of individual teams pointed out above. A player gets hurt for 10 games and his team sucks for those 10 games, and suddenly his Hart stock goes up because he must be so valuable. The player who doesn’t get hurt can’t get that boost, despite the obvious value of not-being-hurt.
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by Back In Black on Jan 9, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Brian Elliott has better numbers on a team with less talent.
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hart finalists
Giroux, Crosby, Ovechkin
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by Ubiquitous on Jan 9, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
Kessel, Stamkos, Giroux, Sedins, Malkin, Toews, maybe even Hossa (ps Vrbata is on pace for 37 goals???) at forward
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If he gets more playing time through the season I guess even Elliot.
If I were to choose 3
Kessel, Giroux, Stamkos (though I would listen to arguments for Toews or Malkin for that last spot)
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re: Stamkos. While I agree he deserves to be in the conversation, there doesn’t seem to be much of a precedent for an MVP on a losing team.
by A Lindros Jaw on Jan 9, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
He is just so far ahead on the goal race that I think he gets one of the three nods.
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Just think that without Stamkos Tampa Bay might be the 29th worst team in the league instead of 26th!
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Yeah I do. If I were voting I wouldn’t put him in. I just think based on previous years he “would” be voted in.
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Giroux, Malkin, Kessel and maybe even Lupul if he can continues his pace. He is leading the league in games with points scored
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I think Lupul would be a hard sell, since he’s really only stepped up since he’s had Kessel on his line.
by A Lindros Jaw on Jan 9, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Hard sell or not, if he is amongst the top at the end of the season, he deserves consideration.
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He isn’t though. Malkin, Toews, Stamkos, Sedins are all having better seasons.
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Oh I didn’t say he would win it but that he would be at least considered. He is currently 4th in scoring, 2 points behind the leader. He is leading the league in games with points scored, making him the most consistent point producer. Not to mention that just last season most felt his career to be over. He would at least warrant consideration.
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He’ll have a good shot at the Masterton! WOOO! (would be kinda cool to have to masterton winners on the same line!
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Beat me to the punch. That would be awesome.
by A Lindros Jaw on Jan 9, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Always forget about the Masterton. If he doesn’t win that then he was robbed.
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I dunno, Ray Emery kinda deserves it too
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Dammit man the Leafs need to start getting trophies
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They need to get ONE trophy and thats the stanley cup.
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by leafer1984 on Jan 9, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Emery got a nomination last year, I think. He really should’ve gotten it over Lappy, who’s just sitting on IR still.
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Kessel may end up suffering from the Sedin effect, where both he and Lupul are valued the same together, so that neither can really be called better than the other.
Henrik did win the Hart though.
I think it’s more likely that Lupul’s success makes Kessel look all the more valuable, being able to take a player that maxed out at 58pts, and carry him to top 5 in league scoring.
by A Lindros Jaw on Jan 9, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
You know what today needs? A Leafs trade.
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 9, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
everyone
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 3:02 PM EST reply actions
I can’t the mobile app won’t open the link
by elseldo on Jan 9, 2012 3:07 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
you just got Gus-Rolled
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Gonna give a rebound up
Gonna get beat short side
Never gonna convince you all that
I’m an NHLer
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by clrkaitken on Jan 9, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 13 recs
meh
could use a rhyming scheme, but i’ll still rec it.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
since everyone is so quick to jump on me for even mentioning his name, i’m just going to do it all the more.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
condoleeza describes for us in advance
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by daoust on Jan 9, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
buuuuurrrrrrnnnn
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
what can i say? i have a delightful personality.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
The Leafs should fire Jonas Gustavsson and start Ron Wilson in net more.
Wait. I think I messed that up.
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by birky on Jan 9, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I see whats going on,previously on this site it was pointed out that many members had beards, I’llbet beards with no stash, so there is an abvious mennonite bias here, gus don’t have a chance
Ayyyup.
/snaps suspenders.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 9, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
ES SV% is a far better indicator of ability. Reimer beats Gus hands down.
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you didn’t take away that Reimer has had far fewer quality starts and that Gus has yet to be ‘blown-up’?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
huh?
Games with >= 5 GA
Reimer: 2: 1-1-0 record
Gustavsson: 3; 0-3-0 record
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don’t ask me. i’m going by what the article said.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
for all your talk about ‘5-game moving averages’ this seems to suggest that Reimer is the one who hasn’t been consistent this season.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
It seems to me he was rushed back early December, but besides his ESSV% indicates he’s been actually quite good, just terrible on the pk (on a terrible PK)
this is why i was advocating keeping Gus in last week: give Reimer some time to get warm and shake off the rust.
I actually think they should have come back with Reimer tomorrow. he needs to get going sooner rather than later.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
The post is wrong. Gustavsson should have at least one “blown-up” game for his performance against Vancouver. 5 goals allowed on 36 shots.
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Also his game against Boston. 5 GA on 39 shots.
Also, if time on ice isn’t a requirement, his games against Montreal and the relief v. Boston.
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don’t look at me. i didn’t write it.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah. I tweeted to Cam about it, and posted on the article. But it kinda changes the conclusion if we’re talking about a 5% difference in BU% and a 2.4% difference in ES-SVP, no?
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What if I had a run of official PPP pint glasses made up? Would you guys want them?
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Didn’t you hear? Chemmy’s BUYING OFFICIAL PPP PINT GLASSES! Woooooo! And we all get some!!!!!
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
1) Price?
2) Could you make them freezer mugs? I LOVE freezer mugs.
3) Yes I would.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
1. Something like $20 for two
2. They’d be regular glass pint glasses
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Any way you can have them filled with Stone IPA before shipping them up this way? That’s physically/legally possible right?
by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 9, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
will one have PPP’s face on it and the other have your face on it? because if so, yes
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 9, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure J.K Rowling will take to kindly to that.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 9, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Chemmy has the weiner that lived!
/inside joke
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 9, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
PPP’s face on one side, Chemmy’s ass on the other.
Confusion may result.
And hilarity.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
no, but I don’t drink. I like the idea though
by elseldo on Jan 9, 2012 4:28 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
how do you stay hydrated?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 9, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
You don’t want a glass? You don’t drink anything at all?
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Liquid silicon.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
If I commissioned a PPP themed garden hose end cover or something would that work?
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PPP sippy cups!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 9, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
I want one that looks like Leafsman
by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 9, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Rec’n this. Massive best-selling hit.
I want a gross.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 9, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
Gonna be difficult, Leafsman is six colors as constructed. I’d need to get that down to two or three, so like white/blue/black.
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The pint glass is great for now. I’m willing to be patient on a Leafsman sippy cup
by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 9, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds like a Wendel Bark themed glass.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
easy just outline him in black, and/or fill the leaf in blue
by elseldo on Jan 9, 2012 4:35 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
If it has to be three colours only, just make sure it says something witty. Preferrably about how awesome and well-informed we clearly are.
I have two competing slogan ideas, maybe we’ll vote on them.
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Maybe reference to Chaim Weiswasser, but I think maybe simpler is better here.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 9, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
it might, what else can you cater towards my needs?
by elseldo on Jan 9, 2012 4:36 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
You don’t drink and you married a Habs fan. Any other character flaws we should know about?
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
you make wendel sad
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 9, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
I like the pictures of your dogs. like chemmys below, made me smile. but I have as of late developed a feeling of “not wanting to be around them”
by elseldo on Jan 9, 2012 4:39 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
“I got a antler I got one. All mine. Nom nom nom nom. My antler.”
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gotta say your dog is adorable
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If you steal the antler from him more than once he lays down next to you and frowns.
“You can have the antler but I’m very sad about it.”
If you give it back to him he wags his tail and chomps away.
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Got my dog one of those antlers for Christmas. He loves it.
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everything we get my dog he destroys in 15 mins flat, he even took a chunk out of one of those black indestructible kongs some how
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 9, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
Jake is also shocked
yes, he has a hot dog
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 9, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Question
Is that a cross around his neck?
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no, the tag is just sideways
im not allowed to get him actual bling
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 9, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
that’s not a dog, that’s a pug.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Gonna be made by this guy:
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lol, dickbutt
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 9, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, uh, sorry I guess. That’s not that NSFW.
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I got the whole PPP crew dickbutt glasses for Xmas.
PPP didn’t even send them an email to say “thanks”.
Tsk tsk.
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PPP probably doesn’t know what dickbutt is
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 9, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
I miss Horrible ville
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 9, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
I remember a check on PPP shirts. was that popular?
by elseldo on Jan 9, 2012 4:51 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
A tshirt design is going to take longer than slapping a poorly drawn MS paint logo on a glass.
These glasses would be high quality despite the artwork on them, ceramic colors fired on to the glass so they won’t disappear in the wash.
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I have to wash everything by hand. but only for another year
by elseldo on Jan 9, 2012 4:56 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I do all my dishes by hand anyways so its not a big deal. Unless you have a big family or something.
So do I, but I would hand wash my beer glassware regardless because I’m a fussy asshole.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 9, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
this mobile commenting has ruined my afternoon nap.
by elseldo on Jan 9, 2012 4:46 PM EST via Android app reply actions
of course he has a based now. all of the kids have beards now. having beards is the coolest
by elseldo on Jan 9, 2012 5:01 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
BASED
BASED
EVERYTHING BASED
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Why haven’t you already read 30 thoughts for this week?
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
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Has anyone shook the feeling of impending season doom? Am I the only one whos still waiting and expecting the wheels to fall off.
Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.
i feel the same way.
i still dont’ feel 100% confident I understand this team though. lose a few games and that feeling that the wheels will fall off will probably return. that’s what happens after years of disappointment I guess.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 9, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
Well according to sportsclubstats.com, we are at our second (or possibly third) highest probability of making the playoffs this season at 72.6% and our goal differential has crept above 0…
That’s gotta be somewhat encouraging!
Also according to the site we have a high probability of playing either Philadelphia or Boston in the first round.
Personally I would rather we didn’t make the playoffs than get swept by Boston at the ACC and having our morale destroyed.
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Um, not making the playoffs would definitely be worse for team/fan morale then making it and playing a team that’s expected to beat you (ie we have nothing to lose).
This is a team that hasn’t made the playoffs since the lockout.
by Shift on Jan 9, 2012 8:06 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
This is the kid that broke his back right?
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A little late, but whatever they haven’t played yet this week.
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by pho king awesome on Jan 9, 2012 7:15 PM EST reply actions
Dustin Penner is trending in Toronto…….God help us all…
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There are no IHOPS in T.O!
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i bet that mother fucker would love him some Coras
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 9, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
I hear your mom makes good pancakes
/sorry
by Shift on Jan 9, 2012 8:04 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Over 1200+ comments today and the Leafs are not even playing today. If that doesn’t say wonders of this fan base and the people of this site, I don’t know what does.
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