Loss? What Loss? We Got the WC Baby!
by SkinnyFish on Feb 10, 2012 7:04 AM EST
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PrintLeafs Still Want Reimer to Be the Guy - Mike Langlois from Vintage Leaf Memories
In any event, here we are now. Reimer is the number-one goalie. (Funny, eh? A couple of weeks ago so many people were talking as though Reimer had lost the net, and Monster had won the job. It was like, "gee, let Reims play one once in a while, or he’ll get really rusty". Just shows how quickly things change—and could change again—also based on necessity.) But what I am really saying today is simply this: Reimer is the guy, still, that the honchos want to to see take the ball and run with it. Not just that he’s younger than Gus, or under contract for an extra couple of seasons (that’s true, right?). But Reimer was the fellow that saved their bacon a year ago and gave Leaf fans a much-needed summer of hope.Not long ago I posted here that the Leaf goaltending situation was in good hands, just not at that precise moment. And I said that because that’s what I was observing and what I believed. Both of these guys can play. Both are still finding their ceiling, whatever it may be. But both, at that particular time, were not quite setting the league on fire.
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"No Plans for Mr. Hockey to Donate Brain"
WTF? He's still alive Shoalts you insensitive ass. Sure you didn't ask the question, but what the hell man?
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the loss last night was made a bit better by the absolute ass kicking the Majors got.
shots were 49-15 for Niagara, with the final score 11-0. Yeah that was nice.
Dammit Gomez.
man, the Majors REALLY need Percy back
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 7:32 AM EST up reply actions
also, Percy being out this long makes me worry, kid has boat loads of potential and was on pace for a fantastic season, hope it doesn’t derail his development too much
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 7:39 AM EST up reply actions
Ya I'm a bit worried too.
Freakin’ concussions. Hopefully he’s young enough that he bounces back without much of a setback.
McKegg was out for a bit with one earlier in the season and he seems back in form, but obviously each case is different.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 7:45 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, not only the concussion, but he missed a hunk of October and November with a knee injury, no luck this season
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 7:47 AM EST up reply actions
I was just starting to like that goofy looking kid
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 7:48 AM EST up reply actions
and I just found an article saying that this was his THIRD injury of the season, the knee injury and TWO hits from behind
that is Mike VanRyn levels of luck
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 7:49 AM EST up reply actions
The secrets of the Universe are too dangerous for mere mortals to gain access to
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 7:50 AM EST up reply actions
that’s some Jedi shit right there.
I’ve been watching too much Star Wars
by pho king awesome on Feb 10, 2012 7:51 AM EST up reply actions
I told my wife, “you make sure they take out anything that could keep me alive. if they say I’m dead you make sure I stay that way”
Dammit Gomez.
I kinda want to see how the other side lives
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 7:58 AM EST up reply actions
TheNumber14 will donate his liver to further the study of the effects of being a Leaf fan
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
by thenumber14 on Feb 10, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Liver... Brain... who needs all this shit?
Basically, a sensibly-deisgned Leaf fan would consist entirely of the following components:
1. Thumb. To mute Healy.
2. Forehead. For bashing on keyboard.
3. Bladder (huge.) Beer containment system.
4. Mouth. For singing Olé Olé at the fucking Habs fans as they lose to the Leafs, 7-1, at home.
5. Huge Hips & Thighs. To ensure your powerful skating and hip-checking techniques can be shown off in Beer League.
6. Hands of Stone. Just like Kulemin’s.
7. Cardboard cut-out picture of Wendel, Mats, Dougie, Borje, Felix, Tiger or Norm where “face” used to be.
8. Pockets. Two. One for Leaf season tickets. The other for that pair to the Heritage Classic that you won off Skinny.
9. Foot. To be applied to gas pedal. Of Jared’s 1973 AMC Pacer, which he lent you for this road trip, ‘cause he had to work.
10. 2nd Mouth. For singing Olé Olé quietly to yourself as you surf the net all day, as the Toronto Star’s new hockey reporter.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 10, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Does the hands of stone include a thumb of stone? or is the thumb normal with the rest of the hand being stone.
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 10, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Gotta go with Thumb of Stone too.
You wanna make sure to CRUSH that mute button.
Otherwise, a few drops of Healy might squeeze through.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 10, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
That’s good news on Grabovski. I’ll sleep better at night once he’s locked up 5x$5M
No no, dig UP stupid.
I’m all on the Grabbo train. BUT where do Colborne and Kadri fit next year? You have to think they make the jump. Only hope is unloading Army and Lombardi and having the third line be Kadri/Connelly/Colborne
by pho king awesome on Feb 10, 2012 7:54 AM EST up reply actions
BUT where do Colborne and Kadri fit next year
They’ll get spots when Lombardi is traded, obviously
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 7:56 AM EST up reply actions
haha, I’m pretty sure you’re joking there. I’m not sure Lombardi has much trade value, but if anyone could unload him it’s Burke
by pho king awesome on Feb 10, 2012 7:59 AM EST up reply actions
He would make one hell of a waterboy
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 10, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
He trade Vesa Toskala and Brett Lebda (not at the same time obviously, because that’d be like dividing by 0)
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 10, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
I missed the game last night, and now im at work.
Anyone wanna fill me in on the main points? how were our and phillys goals? how was the Reiminister of defense?
I also missed it, but just from the scoresheet… sounds like the Kessel line was the only one getting the job done.
Kessel now 2 points back from scoring lead. Lupul 4.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 8:32 AM EST up reply actions
We sucked hard during the first, somehow only gave up a goal. Were even for most of the 2nd and 3rd periods, every mistake the d made seemed to wind up in our net. Kessel line was great, Grabbo line not so much. Lost the game, Ottawa wins, we slip to 8th, my cell phone, Twitter and Facebook blow up with gloating Sens fans. To make things even better, Winnipeg wins, in overtime against Washington, Florida beats LA. A terrible night all around.
Oh, and Gomez scored a goal and the Habs have won 3 in a row and we get to play them next.
Offizielles Mitglied des Müller / Holzer Fan-Clubs. Ich fordere mehr Deutsche in diesem Team ....... tweet me @Alex_Scotian
I’m glad Habs are winning. My heart couldn’t take it if Yakupov ended up in le bleu, blanc et rouge
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 8:42 AM EST up reply actions
Shitty first period
Goals were result of the defense puck watching and losing guys in the slot or on the back post. Pretty terrible.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
Leafs were shorthanded 4 times in the game, the most times down a man in their last 16 games.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
Still no PK goals allowed though.
Yay? Small victories I guess? 4 ES goals sucks though.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
how many breakaways did Jagr get?
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 10, 2012 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
Horrendous first period. It seemed the Leafs were hemmed into their own end on numerous occasions. I don’t know what it was, but seemed like Grabbo-Mac-Kuli were having a really tough time against the Philly defense last night.
I hate to single him out but the play of Gardiner probably led to several Philly goals last night. I also didn’t like the fact the Phaneuf let himself be goaded into a chirp fest/fight the whole night with Hartnell. It really took his focus away from the game and eliminated his effectiveness. I don’t want to see a captain on any team react to taunts/jabs/pokes in such a manner, it sets the tone for the rest of the team.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 10, 2012 8:51 AM EST up reply actions
1st goal, Gardiner wasn’t on the ice.
2nd was that long shot that Reimer missed, whether it was tipped or not, I donno – but from a long way out. Gardiner was on his man, just looked like a flukey/weak goal to me. Not much more a defender can do.
3rd goal is Giroux’s. Gardiner’s nearest, but I just watched the play a half-dozen times, and Girous is actually Grabbo’s man, as he’s cycling in from above the circles, Gardiner’s coming out to meet him.
4th goal. Gardiner’s job is Simmonds, which he does, lifting his stick. It’s th4e 3rd forward coming in backdoor, not being picked up by Connolly or the others.
All in all, I was frustrated to see Gardiner within reach of 3 guys who scored. Yep. But did he make any glaring mistakes? Not sure. Compared to Dion, Grabbo, Connolly? Not really.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 10, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone wanna fill me in on the main points?
Leafs were awful. Managed to keep it close somehow. Good game to miss.
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
I thought we were probably good
but now Im gettting a little nervous. One of Florida/Washington has to make it, and here are the standings:
1.NYR
2. Boston
3. Florida/Washington
4. Philly
New Jersey Devils 28GR, +12
Pittsburgh Penguins 28GR +9
Toronto Maple Leafs 27GR +7
Florida Panthers 29GR +8 // Washington Capitals 28GR +7
Ottawa Senators 25GR +6
New Jersey looks like a lock by now, and the rest of us are competing for the last 3 spots. Pittsburgh is +9, we’re essentially tied with Washington, and Ottawa is a point behind.
Ottawa has less games to make up ground and improve their games above 500, so that’s an advantage, but we have more games to fall below 500 at the same time. The Capitals will either slide above us or fall below us with their game in hand. The thing is though, Pittsburgh isnt playing that great, and if we start winning again, we can definitely grab the 6th seed, with the distance new jersey has put on us
I just want at least 8th.
Please hockey gods, give us this.
<30 games left to make it.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 8:44 AM EST up reply actions
I actually wouldn’t… offseason is awful
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 8:46 AM EST up reply actions
We need either the 6th seed or the 8th. I hat our chances at 7th.
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Doesn’t really matter. No team ever ranked below 5th since they went to a 16 team playoff has ever won the Cup. Ever.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
We’re not winning the Cup, but meaningful games… mmm
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
so.. you’re saying there is a chance?
by pho king awesome on Feb 10, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions
Same way they said no one would ever be able to create cheese from a turd.
But I just did it.
Here. Have a taste.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 10, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
Hey Philly made it to Game 6 of the SCF… it would crush my soul to watch the Leafs lose in the Cup final… but it’d be progress at least
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 10, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Gotta beat Ottawa. It’s all about beating Ottawa. 2 more games against them this season. Whoever wins those, likely goes to the dance.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
One game left with Ottawa.
Either you have an enviable memory, or a pitiable life, to know nothing of regret.
- Sten, of the Qunari
by GreatKingRat on Feb 10, 2012 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
The game is in Ottawa, so if someone wants to give me their ticket I can work my magic again.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull
by Draglikepull on Feb 10, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
I’m going to it. Went to a pre-season game earlier in the year we won 4-2. These tickets cost me 200+$ a piece so I aint giving them up. All the good 300s were basically sold out.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting that sportsclubstats has us still 78% in, and in 6th(!), ahead of Washington, Florida and, oh yeah: Ottawa – 45.8%.
Even 50/50 has us above Ottawa. So, ____!!1
Hopefully Reimer keeps his GAA to 2.5 or less here on out and Gustavsson gives us good games when called upon – and of course the scoring doesn’t dry up.
Winter Classic Winter Classic!!!
I’m am the “Hold off celebrations while the official announcement isn’t made” guy. Thanks for the linkage btw!
http://mapleleafshotstove.com/author/mislav-jantoljak/
@Xterratu on twitter
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 10, 2012 8:58 AM EST reply actions
Perfect excuse for you to come to this side of the world.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 10, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
Washington
sucks.
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
Firing Boudreau – bad move.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions
I hope Burke does something that helps this team before the deadline. I’m just not sure we’re as good as we can be with the current group. Replacing Crabb would be nice, not that it drastically helps us, but he’s very replaceable.
I like Crabb, not sure if its because “Leafs fans fall in love with guys” but he seems to be a solid 3rd liner on the cheap.
by pho king awesome on Feb 10, 2012 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
I’d rather be sellers right now. Open up a spot for Kadri/Frattin, get some cap space for the offseason.
Crabb is fine if he can play a 4th line role.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
yep, I think if your not a cup contender, you’re a seller. Might as well.
by pho king awesome on Feb 10, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t mind selling some players if we can also get something good back, but most players we want to move won’t get us much of anything, if they can even be traded.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
We get cap space.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
oh I’m all for that, but the biggest problems in terms of cap vs performance (Komi, Lombardi) are probably not tradeable, unless we’re really lucky.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
might as well wait. selling off guys now just for cap space doesn’t make sense. No trades unless there is a decent return. Cap space won’t get us into the playoffs.
by JohnerstonRex on Feb 10, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
plus as you said, Kadri and Colborne get a spot.
by pho king awesome on Feb 10, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
I have a secret agenda for wanting that cap space though.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
you mean ZACH PARISE?
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
okay maybe not so secret
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
If we open up 12-14 million we get both!!!
Connolly, Lombardi, Komisarek and Army= 15.75.
Boom we’re golden
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
Nice.
So hey hows your wife kate Upton? Does she know about your supermodel girlfriend? When am I coming on the yacht?
Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984
Kate Upton is the supermodel GF… Kailey Cuoco is the wife and she’s cool with it.
Also I accidently hit a reef last week so the Yacht is in drydock for a while sorry.
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
I wanted to do donuts… its tough on a 200ft yacht
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
by WizardofNaz on Feb 10, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
I heard you got yelled at by a coast guard captain to get back on your yacht after the accident.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 10, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
I was waiting for someone to make that joke
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 10, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Honestly, he just fell off, right into a lifeboat sure, but that was just luck.
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 10, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Connolly wont be moved, neither will Lombardi. Only person the leafs can move for cap space is MacArthur
Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984
I have hope that Komisarek can be moved in the summer. Possibly Connolly as well.
by pho king awesome on Feb 10, 2012 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
I’m over Komisarek. He may as well be Darcy Tucker’s buyout – not going anywhere.
I want Connolly gone for the cap space but I also don’t think it’ll happen.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
The FA I want will be locked up by then.
That being said, the 2013 UFA class is looking pretty fucking incredible.
It won’t by the time July 1, 2013 arrives, but wow.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
holllllllly
Even if you scroll down a good chunk, you have guys like
Roy, J. Staal, Enstrom, Clowe, Kari Lehtonen, Edler, Weiss, White
its a pretty fucking good crop, if 10 names above white go to free agency, its time to free up some space.
by Ben Schnell on Feb 10, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know how your eyes got past S. Crosby, R. Getzlaf, and C. Perry
Also it is insane that Jordan Staal will be UFA by then.
also Zajac, Horton…
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
yeah I know, those guys are to dream for
but even if 80% of the good players resign, there’s still a shitload of top3/6 players
by Ben Schnell on Feb 10, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
Also it is insane that Jordan Staal will be UFA by then.
No kidding. A 23-year-old unrestricted free agent? Now we’re really starting to see the effects of the lowered UFA age combined with prospects being hotshotted straight into the NHL. Toews and Kane are both supposed to be 23-year-old UFAs in 2015 as well, though I don’t expect they’ll hit the open market.
showed up for me, had the same problem yesterday
what I wouldnt give me kane or toews
by Ben Schnell on Feb 10, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Looking ahead to 2016: Stamkos is a UFA at 22 (as is Luke Schenn). In 2017, Victor Hedman is a UFA at 21. If Tampa isn’t headed in the right direction by them, can you imagine the paydays these guys could get on the open market?
I think the math must be wrong on that…hedman a UFA at 21 in 2017?
He’s not 16 now, he’s already played a few years
by Ben Schnell on Feb 10, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
I want Toews so much…. a defensively responsible center who can put up good numbers (not named Grabovski)
Just think of a top 2 center combo of Toew/Grabbo
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 10, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
It shows up for everyone, but not for you. Refresh and it’ll get fixed.
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter
by Bower Power on Feb 10, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Site is still sort of broken. SBNation has been messed up for like a week.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Site is still sort of broken. SBNation has been messed up for like a week.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 10, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
jk jk. That was done purposely. But it had me freaking out a few days ago when it was happening to me.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 10, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
best hope is an amnesty buyout period this summer
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
Players PPG+
Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin, Claude Giroux, Steven Stamkos, Nicklas Backstrom, Phil Kessel, Jordan Eberle, Henrik Sedin, Ilya Kovalchuk, Joffrey Lupul, Martin St. Louis, Daniel Sedin, John Tavares, Pavel Datsyuk, Patrik Elias, Marian Hossa, Jamie Benn
Ages
Sidney Crosby 24, Evgeni Malkin 25, Claude Giroux 24, Steven Stamkos 22, Nicklas Backstrom 24, Phil Kessel 24, Jordan Eberle 21, Henrik Sedin 31, Ilya Kovalchuk 28, Joffrey Lupul 28, Martin St. Louis 36, Daniel Sedin 31, John Tavares 21, Pavel Datsyuk 33, Patrik Elias 35, Marian Hossa 33, Jamie Benn 22
Average age of all nhl players 27.02
Average age of ppg nhl players 28.875
St. Louis – curvebuster.
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
Patrik Elias? Hossa/Sedin/Datsyuk/Sedin? seems like they’re all curvebusters.. maybe the curve isnt as drastic as we think! keep some players older than 25!!!
Especially around here.
It’s fucking ridiculous sometimes.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
I’m grumpy this morning.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
I was grumpy last night.
We gotta make sure somebody is grumpy this afternoon. Boss says we gotta maintain 24/7 coverage.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 10, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Thats why Im here.
Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984
Sweet. We can all take off now, Leafer’s got us covered.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 10, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Last night’s GTD was ridiculously grumpy.
I will stand beside him with an axe! @theninjagreg
by theninjagreg on Feb 10, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
In the Really? non-hockey stat of the day
It is cheaper to fly from Hawaii to Toronto with a layover in LA than it is to fly on just the Hawaii to LA sections of the flight. By $200 nonetheless.
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
you should be saving for a house, not buying plane tickets to hawaii.
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
This is on my parents dime thank you very much. My mom just mentioned it to me when she was asking how much time I wanted to spend on Oahu (the island most people think of when they think Hawaii with Pearl harbour and Honolulu). We’re only spending a day there cause besides Pearl and the North shore its just a city and the other islands are less populated so there’s better hiking and whatnot.
Also this summer I’m learning to scuba dive so wooo!
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
i want to go on the LOST tour there. most of the sets are still in place if you’re willing to make the trek.
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
Oh man I was crazy about LOST when it was on.
Unhealthily so.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
I love the show but I don’t really care about what the sets look like… Id just enjoy the views which I can get anywhere on the islands
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
by WizardofNaz on Feb 10, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
me too my man, me too.
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
by thenumber14 on Feb 10, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
me too. podcasts and forums every day :/
by Ben Schnell on Feb 10, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Spent my honeymoon entirely on Kauai. It was amazing. Definitely recommend it. Not so much traffic and the scenary there is simply amazing. You get rivers, waterfalls, jungles, mountains, canyons, and cliffs all in one place. Hiking along the uninhabited Nepali coast is awesome. No roads, so foot is the only way to get around.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 10, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
We’re spending a week on Maui a day on oahu and then a week on Kauai to end the vacation.
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
by WizardofNaz on Feb 10, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
It’s often cheaper to fly Calgary to London (England) than Calgary to Toronto.
I will stand beside him with an axe! @theninjagreg
by theninjagreg on Feb 10, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
I find it funny because you can get to LA cheaper by “missing” your 2nd flight than booking only to LA.
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
by WizardofNaz on Feb 10, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
The Leafs are about to go on a little west coast swing to Alberta and BC. Their record in Western Canada is 2-7 over the last 3 years.
They come home for 4 games against playoff caliber teams.
Then they start a run of 12 games, 9 of which are on the road. I’m worried.
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
I’m worried.
Me too. We really needed more points this week to bank before the upcoming trip.
Losing Saturday would be….bad.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Losing Saturday would be bad for our livers.
Bless my PVR as I will be missing the game
Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984
Sucks that you don’t get to play the Bruins while they’re slumping.
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
No, we got 3 games while they were fucking superhuman.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
4…
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Feb 10, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Time to start busting out last year’s “Bataan Death March Week” posts?
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 10, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Leafs are in a dead heat with Washington for 7th in the conference. 4th in the conference in 5v5 goal differential. 2 games in hand on the 9th place team, Ottawa. EVERYBODY PANIC!!!
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Feb 10, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
It’s not so much that – look at our schedule coming up in March. It’s going to be very tough. And I think if we stumble here, we may not get a chance to regain those points later on in the season. I’m not in panic mode, but I am worried about the prospects of us making the playoffs, it’s still very possible we finish 9th or 10th.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Leafs only need to finish ahead of 1 of Florida, Washington, Ottawa. If we can’t do 2/3 odds against some fairly unimpressive teams, we don’t deserve to be in the playoffs.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 10, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Winnipeg is still basically in the mix. They’re only 4 pts behind the Leafs now. Losing that game by 1 goal was really stupid. We could have put them 10 points behind us.
Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.
They would have to pass Toronto, Washington, and Florida, all of whom have games in hand. Winnipeg is done.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Feb 10, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Im just saying in terms of the Leafs. Keep this little losing streak going and the Leafs could be passed by all of them and suddenly be in 10th.
Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.
We’ve lost 2 games in a row. We’re 5-2-1 in our last 8 games. Can we stop over-reacting to every tiny little set-back?
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Feb 10, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
No one’s overreacting, no one is panicking. We’re just saying it’s still quite possible we don’t make it, especially when we lose a couple of one goal games to teams nearby us.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Calling 2 losses in a row a “losing streak” after a bunch of wins isn’t over-reacting?
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Feb 10, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
pretty sure I never said losing streak.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Then my comment about it wasn’t directed at you.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Feb 10, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
ah okay, it was just because it was a reply to mine that I was confused.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
still, losing one goal games against Winnipeg and Philadelphia were very disappointing. I’ve seen too many one goal game losses where we couldnt even get a point.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
Winnipeg? sure, but Philly? really? you were very disappointed that they lost to one of the best teams in the league? A game where they hung in and fought to get within one goal?
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Philly has had a rough couple games lately though.
Slumpbusters!!!
Still their team is crazy talented. Except in net apparently.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, I was. Yes we’re a bubble team, but we should be able to beat teams ahead of us in slumps occassionally. We didn’t play a particularly good game against them, i think it was winnable – defensive collapses really dragged us down.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
key word is occasionally. Im not saying we can beat them regularly, but if we’re going to lose to teams like Winnipeg, we should be able to drag out of a win out of a team only 6 points ahead of us.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
you realize that Boston is only 7 points ahead of the Leafs, would you be very dissapointed if tomorrow the Leafs lost a hard fought 4-3 game to them?
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
No, but Boston has had our number all year and last year as well.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
last year the Leafs won the season series against the Bruins
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
well we have been garbage against them this year, and I do remember them kicking our asses a few times last year too.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
so did Philly
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
I guess. They are a good team, but I really think we didn’t perform well in the game. Not as well as we could have.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
right, the Leafs played pretty poorly, but Philly also played really well.
But the Leafs, looking like total shit, still managed to storm back within a goal and almost tie it
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
Didn’t watch the game but the boxscore is saying the Kessel line was getting shit done.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
yeah the 1st line for us was easily the best, grabbo’s line didn’t do much, ditto for the rest of the team, really.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
that is a positive to take away, but positives in losing efforts don’t really help you make the playoffs. Still, there’s plenty of hockey to go so like I said I’m not panicking.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Can we stop over-reacting to every tiny little set-back?
I overreact period by period between PLAYOFFS!!!1 and FUCK THIS TEAM.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
We’re kind of on a razor’s edge for making the playoffs. I personally don’t think it’s over-reacting to look at bad signs and worry. If we make the playoffs it’s only going to be by a point or two, so losing games in regulation and missing out on valuable points is bad
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 10, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
especially pre-deadline, this is a good time to really evaluate this team. There’s positives and negatives, I don’t know why discussing the negatives suddenly means we’re panicking.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
WAYFO is going to become the most used meme in about 3 weeks time, unless we get really hot (and everyone gets “we can’t miss”) or really cold (and everyone gives up and jumps out windows).
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 10, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
Thought Schenn looked better last night – quicker responses.
But Connolly and Gunnar, in particular, looked tired as hell. I hope Wilson starts rolling some of these guys out for some rest.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 10, 2012 10:21 AM EST reply actions
Thats Zlatan Ibrahimovic. He was playing for Ajax at the time agianst NAC Breda. Its like Kessel scoring a goal against a ECHL team. It was sweet but they are a terrible team
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by leafer1984 on Feb 10, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
2001 I believe. The analogy still works
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I wasnt trying to be.
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Less Soccer.more Kessel
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 10, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Not Stoke.
Not Arsenal.
Not Liverpool.
Whew.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 10, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
I knew it wasn’t Stoke when the goal wasn’t scored on a set play or bundled in off a Rory Delap long throw.
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Lebda is injured. Columbus’ playoff chances have increased from -3% to 0%
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 10, 2012 11:48 AM EST reply actions 6 recs
Rec’d every time.
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No sign of Nik Kulemin at Leaf practice. Colby Armstrong joins line with Grabovski and MacArthur.
I’m guessing its something minor and he just needs a day off. Or hoping
by ShahofToronto on Feb 10, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Looks uncomfortable
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 10, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
That was a big collision and Kulie left the ice right after.
Either you have an enviable memory, or a pitiable life, to know nothing of regret.
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by GreatKingRat on Feb 10, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
TRADE RUMORS!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
KULI FOR MALKIN
KULI FOR RASK
KULI FOR TEA IN CHINAS
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 10, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
This is just the pissing stage. Kulemin’s statue will be rebuilt.
Either you have an enviable memory, or a pitiable life, to know nothing of regret.
- Sten, of the Qunari
by GreatKingRat on Feb 10, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/kulemin%20trade
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
I feel so bad for Burke
These are the first things I saw there:
gshaw2836 geoffrey
@LeafsBB20 just saying but you should try to trade luke schen for like vitor hedman, and trade macarthur and kulemin for bobby ryan and
IanCashin Ian Cashin
@LeafsBB20 Trade Schenn and Kulemin for Rick Nash. Or something like that. Nash is the best power forward in the league…
Gee I wonder why Burke didn’t want to get on twitter
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
I similarly wonder why people do want to get on twitter. It just seems like a chance to sit in a room with a bunch of semi-literate goons.
In the court of public opinion, Steve Simmons is Lionel Hutz.
Nah twitter is awesome, when you’re not the GM of a hockey team who has millions of fans with dumb ideas.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
As a semi-literate goon, I take offence to that. But really, the quality of your Twitter experience depends entirely on who you follow. If you only follow smart, interesting, and/or funny people, your experience will be good.
two people are already following me despite the fact that I’ve never tweeted. Where do these people come from?!
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Most of them are porn or spam accounts
They backtrace who follows popular accounts and start following them
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
bots
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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If you posted your twitter account on PPP I am probably following you. I follow pretty much anyone who is interesting until they annoy me.
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by theninjagreg on Feb 10, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
never posted it here because I havent even tweeted yet. I really just signed up to follow the Leafs players/sports journalists like McKenzie.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
At the end of the game Army was on that line. He probably got hurt
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41 KULEMIN, NIKOLAI
Per SHF AVG TOI EV TOT PP TOT SH TOT
1 7 00:23 02:46 02:09 00:00 00:37
2 8 00:44 05:55 05:09 00:00 00:46
3 6 00:41 04:06 03:40 00:00 00:26
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
didn’t play at all in the last 6 minutes of the game
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
That alone doesn’t scream injury. He’s been an offensive anchor and the Leafs needed a goal badly. He wasn’t getting much ice-time all game.
In the court of public opinion, Steve Simmons is Lionel Hutz.
"Offensive anchor"
On pace for 27 assists, same as last season.
Grabbo and MacA – Both on pace to repeat last season’s goal totals.
Shooting a horrid 6.7%, would be on pace for 20G were he shooting his career average.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
Right, which is why I corrected myself.
Sorry, offensive anchor=dragging down the line’s offense. Which I don’t even necessarily mean. Just that he isn’t scoring goals.
In the court of public opinion, Steve Simmons is Lionel Hutz.
Let’s have some Frattinating fill-in.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 10, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Nope. They moved Armstrong up to Kulemin’s spot and Boyce is practicing on the 4th line.
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
Boyce is having convenient back spasms.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 10, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
he was a healthy scratch the last few games
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Kulemin
CONCUSSED OUT FOREVER
but not really.
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
These 1 goal regulation losses are going to fucking kill this team. Ugh.
Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.
that’s my view. We have lost way too many one goal games without getting them into OT.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
i.e. we need a clutch guy like Sundin :(
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Soft. We’re soft soft soft.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 10, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
They really are
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Last night you could see they just really don’t like playing the Flyers. The Flyers would bump and bang at every opportunity, tonnes of dirt, loads of mouth, and some Toronto guys just disappeared.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 10, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
more size up front! for the love of god some size + skill would be nice. But probably not until the offseason.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
This is bang on. I didn’t see tired players last night, they “disappeared”. I don’t blame Dion for letting the flyers get under his skin. Someone had to do something.
As I watched the game I was thinking about how Burke said Phaneuf “barked” at him about needing some bigger forwards right after he was traded for. The Flyers showed that it’s still a weak spot.
And to Buffalo. Ottawa. Winnipeg. Jeez, the worst teams to lose points to. Argh.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 10, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Before January, I would have bet my life savings this would not be about the Leafs.
They haven’t allowed a man-advantage goal in 17 games, the NHL’s longest streak since Chicago had a 19-game run in the 1969-70 season.
In the court of public opinion, Steve Simmons is Lionel Hutz.
If only they can hold out 3 more games. One of the leagues worst penalty kills suddenly breaks the record for most consecutive games without a PP goal against.
Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.
Well, now you’ve done it.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
I’d like to counter this jinxing by saying there’s no possible way we beat the record for most consecutive games with a PP goal. Absolutely none.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Your biggest hurdle will be the unstoppable Sam Gagner.
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
Your biggest hurdle will be the unstoppable Sam Gagner Scott Gomez.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 10, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We play them on Wednesday
http://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/TOR/2012_games.html
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Chicago is looking for defence and Komi is sitting in the pressbox itching to play. Looks like a good fit for anything in return. Also Minnesota is desperate for scoring so either Lombo or Connolly could be shipped there. Something needs to happen to wake this team up. All the rumours must be taxing especially on such a young team with a GM known for swinging deals.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 10, 2012 12:49 PM EST reply actions
Komi isn’t going to any team that has a GM with a brain.
Lombardi and Connolly aren’t really scoring much – how would that help Minnesota?
This trade deadline is too quiet.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
I do think the trade deadline will heat up in the days leading up to it, but it won’t be insane. Right now the east is really close, I think GMs want to determine if they will be buying or selling closer to the deadline.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Tuomo Ruutu seems to be the headliner for players that might move. Who may re-sign with Carolina.
IM ON THE EDGE OF MY SEAT
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
It only takes one big move to shake the other apples from the tree.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 10, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
What other apples though? Most trades at the deadline are for expiring contracts… most expiring contracts this season are depth players or so high-end the team isn’t letting them go (Parise, Suter)
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
The way I see it, every deadline there are the trades that everyone sees coming, as there have been rumors about the player for months, and there are the trades that no one sees coming.
Burke’s trades usually fall into the latter category, at least while he’s been here (with the exception of the Kessel and Kaberle trades)
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 10, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
I know it’s not being brought up here, but one reason I think they are keeping Rick Nash at all costs is they want to see if Yakupov can be that centre for him they so desperately want.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
That and they are in denial thinking he is still the one to take them to the promised land.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 10, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
What is the success rate at converting wingers to centers after the draft?
I’m guessing not good…
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 10, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds like the Jackets are just itching to trade Carter, but aren’t getting offers.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Feb 10, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
Apparently they got 1 but it was shit. Hopefully it was Burke.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
yeah I’ll give you guys Komi and Lombardi for him
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
GM desparation
FIRST ROUNDER FOR ANDY SUTTON
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
rumoured =/= the player(s) who will be traded. A lot come out of left field.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
still...yawn
Burke doesn’t seen to need to overhaul the roster the way he needed to in years past
1 or 2 more young core pieces would be nice. We might have to develop in internally.
Not holding my breath.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Neither am I, and i also meant the trade deadline more broadly not just for the Leafs. I don’t think we’ll do much now, but I hope Burke moves bigger pieces post July 1st, because we just simply aren’t good or big enough.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Dustin Penner!!! Brendan Morrow!!! Ales Hemsky!!! the final pieces
I’m bitterly sarcastic today.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Connolly almost certainly won’t move, he has one year left on his deal. Komi is not very moveable either, but one can dream.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Komi was playing his best games as a Leaf before breaking his arm and still has size that teams covet. Hawks are looking at Andy Sutton. Komi is no worse. Someone needs to put together a highlight package of hits and show it to other GMS
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 10, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Andy Sutton is an expiring UFA.
Komisarek TWO more seasons after this.
And yes Komisarek is worse.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Just loop this video someone will bite.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 10, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
I love the Colorado player crawling away.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 10, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Chicago has 4 defensemen signed through 2014 totaling $17.588M, no way in hell do they want to up those numbers to 5 and $22.088M.
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there’s still two more Komi years? GAH.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Wouldn’t be sad to see Connolly go. With Komi, I just really wish he’d give me reason to believe he has a brain + heart + courage…. especially after he’s worked so hard top make it back. Just not sure I’ve seen it yet. But Connolly has been increasingly invisible. I like Lombo and his game still seems to be on the upswing…. but who knows. If someone else sees that, then maybe make the move.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 10, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
With Komi, I just really wish he’d give me reason to believe he has a brain + heart + courage
He has all those, its talent he doesn’t have
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Komi needs a brain + heart + courage? Man, if ever oh ever a wiz there was.
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by GreatKingRat on Feb 10, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Bring in Dorothy.
She knows what to do in situations like ths.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 10, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
She could probably teach Komi some footwork.
Either you have an enviable memory, or a pitiable life, to know nothing of regret.
- Sten, of the Qunari
by GreatKingRat on Feb 10, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
That komi for olesz rumour is the type of trade Burke might make except the hawks don’t have money issues like ducks or nashville did. The hawks carried huet caphit in the SEL.
I’m not sure what cap conscious team has an even worse contracts + prospect/pick to swap Komisarek for. Maybe when he has a year or less on his contract.
Sounds as if Kulemin’s wife Rachel may have gone into labour
There it is
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Maple Leaf babies!!!
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Trade the babies!
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 10, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe a little Kulemin will awaken his scoring touch.
I score many glorious goal little Kuleminovich
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 10, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
I look forward to celebrating the wedding of future Leafs’ star Nik Kulemin Jr. to his childhood sweetheart Lily Grabovski somewhere around 2032.
That’s harsh, dude.
Boo.
Baby Kulie’s gonna come kill you and eat you some day.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 10, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, I didn’t mean it like it came out, just Grabo so potent he impregnates linemates… whatever. sorry.
by Bobby Paradise on Feb 10, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
I’d have to assume all the Leafs and their wives have developed some kind of immunity to this kind of thing, what with Schenn’s smoldering impregnating-vision.
IMPREGNO-vision?
Wasn’t that something they tried in 70s porn movies?
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 10, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
One of his greatest strengths was his face-off prowess. He had a long reach yet was always strong on the stick. He was sort of a Mario Lemieux light – with a powerful and accurate shot, great puck protection, and his passing was as good as anyone’s in the era. He did not have any weaknesses, except for the team around him.
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
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Thats kinda funny coming from the guy who had Sundin in his back pocket for years
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Holik touches on that.
For me to be able to compete each and every shift took all I had in effort, focus and determination just to contain him. Sometimes it was not enough, and those battles helped me become a better player too.
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Thats awesome. I didn’t mean that as an insult either. Holik owned Sundin in the playoffs, but probably the only player in the NHL to have successfully done as much when Sundin was in his prime
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I would rank him above Forsberg, Sakic and Lindros.
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
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Not bad.
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by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 10, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Career PPG : Forsberg – 1.250 (8th)
Sakic – 1.191 (14th)
Lindros – 1.138 (18th)
Sundin – 1.002 (51st)
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by GreatKingRat on Feb 10, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
I dont quite get the point of this?
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Then let’s look at the talent they played with.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Sundin turned Hoglund into a 50 point player. HOGLUND!
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Hoglund was massif, man.
No disrepectin’ the Hog.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 10, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
You misspelled “mastiff”.
He was a dog all right…
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 10, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Do all the people who want to trade Connolly realise that he’s still scoring more pts/60 than Bozak is, even though he’s stuck on the 3rd line with lousy linemates? I also think he may be fighting an injury (Wilson hinted at as much a while back).
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Do the people who don’t want to trade Connolly realize that he has 3 points in 15 games and has the 3rd highest caphit on the team?
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
I definitely think we should trade a guy who’s shown over several seasons that he’s a very good NHLer on the basis of a slump. And I definitely think we should dump him and keep on our 1st line a guy who is scoring at a lower pace than he is.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 10, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
Sarcastic snark aside, people were worried that Kadri/Colborne were being “held back” because there were no spots at C, and keeping Grabovski (rather than trading him at the deadline) would only further that.
Dumping Connolly to free up cap space and give an opening for one of them? Bye Tim. Thanks for not all that much.
I’m falling out of love with aggregated PPG and P/60 arguments TBH. And I know i’ve used them plenty of times in the past, but more and more im seeing flaws in that quantitative measure alone.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Connolly is better than Bozak at pretty much everything except faceoffs.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 10, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
If that was true – and as a unit they played better – why isn’t Connolly manning the top unit?
I completely agree that in isolation he’s a more talented and diverse player than Bozak. But Bozak is getting the job done between Lupul and Kessel and Connolly (in his limited time on that unit) didn’t.
I personally don’t get it, but it wasn’t really working.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
why isn’t Connolly manning the top unit?
I’d love to know that too, but I can’t ask Wilson. We keep talking about needing a pass-first, playmaking centre on the top line, and that’s Connolly.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 10, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
We keep talking about needing a pass-first, playmaking centre on the top line, and that’s Connolly.
In theory ya. It just seems like a discrepency between what that line needs “on paper” and what’s working on ice.
I don’t get it. But I don’t like how he’s being used or how he’s playing.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
he wasn’t that great on the Kessel line.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
wasn’t that when Kessel and Lupul were going so bananas that they lead the NHL in scoring for a month and a half?
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
Connolly was on the IR for a good chunk of that time IIRC
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
yup, Bozak’s actually done a pretty good job with that line. They carry him, but he still can put up points.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
October and November – 12pts in 13 games
Since then – 13 pts in 30 games
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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If he's playing hurt
then get surgery/properly rehab the injury, get him off the ice and get him “healthy” (a relative term for Connolly)
If he’s not playing hurt, he’s playing bad.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
precisely
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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If he’s not playing hurt, he’s playing bad.
This. he’s not worth 4.75 million at all. But luckily there’s only one more year.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Operation #ConnollyForGoat is a GO
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
I see what you are doing here
Lupul was goat in preseason.
Then monster was a goat for a while
Then Macarthur ….
I've also disliked Connolly since he was signed.
Other people have irrational dislike for Liles, Kadri, Schenn…. Mine is Connolly.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Clark MacArthur!
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I don’t think its irrational, he hasn’t been playing well most of his time here. He disappears for whole games, essentially. I know he wont put up a ton of points on the 3rd line but he’s really offered very little. Signed as a stop gap, he isn’t fulfilling that role. I doubt Burke moves him and even if he does it will be during the off-season.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
I know he wont put up a ton of points on the 3rd line but he’s really offered very little.
He has scored at a better rate than Bozak this season.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 10, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
per 60? sure. But he’s also being paid 4.75 million, and Bozak is making like 2.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
And Bozak is playing with 2 of the top 10 scorers in the NHL and Connolly is playing with Joey Crabb.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 10, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
I really liked the Macarthur-Connolly-Kadri line for the brief time it exsted.
Although they did have a tendency to just keep passing and passing
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Better than Crabb – Connolly – Lombardi
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
better yet I like Frattin on the 3rd line, much much more than Crabb.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
I liked that line as well.
And us over-passing is better than watching Kessel and Lupul skate around the d-zone for an entire shift against 4th liners.
by stevesmith19 on Feb 10, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Connolly isn’t playing with Kessel because they didn’t play well together.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
i thought it was because the offense gained by having connolly on the 3rd line instead of Bozak was worth it?
Kessel can carry Bozak and Connolly can carry who ever against weaker comp
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
offense gained by having connolly on the 3rd line instead of Bozak was worth it?
What offense is that?
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
should have read “potential” offence, but the point remains
Bozak between Crabb and Armstrong is an offensive blackhole
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Yep I remember we thought that Bozak = Conolly = anybody on 1st line since Kessel/Bozie do everything. Connolly can create plays on his own and could benefit other players.
I agree though its not working and I’d hate to see Grabbo go instead of him.
well yeah I’d rather be paying Grabbo 4.75m than Connolly.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
instead of Bozak was worth it?
What offense is that?
you believe that bozak would put up more points between crabb and armstrong
Yes.
But I’m not saying Bozak would do BETTER on the 3rd line. I’m saying Connolly’s role and production is disappointing.
I don’t know if switching Connolly/Bozak would be helpful.
I’m saying trade Connolly.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Lombardi maybe? Bring up Kadri/Frattin/Colborne again?
Just spitballing. We’d save ~$4M. That’s walking around money.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
any of those players taking Connollys spot is a flat out down grade
and as pointed out above the Leafs are in a fight for a playoff birth
Connolly will be traded, waived, whatever when someone who is either a lateral move play wise on a cheaper deal steps up or a trade for an upgrade is made
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Colborne if you ask me… see if he can recapture some of that magic he had earlier in the season with Crabb
or Kadri.
Either might be more effective
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 10, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
I’d put Colborne on the 3rd line too, it adds some size to our top 9 (not our top 6 obviously).
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Colborne was pretty meh after his first 5 or so games
his size is also a non-point since he uses it the same way Steckel uses his size
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
in my eyes connolly is doing exactly what burke wanted. he brought in connolly so we could have a competent top 3 centerman
Burke brought in Connolly to center Kessel.
Whatever other spin he’s put on, that was his main purpose.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Ya but cmon. Everybody and their mother knew it was to get Kessel a playmaking center.
Saying differently now that it isn’t coming to fruition the way it was planned is revisionist history.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
yeah Connoly was pretty clearly a guy brought in the centre the Kessel line. Turns out Bozak has recovered from his terrible year last year, so with the bad comes the good.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
What? They were great together. Wilson initially said he was shifting Connolly to the 3rd line because he was battling an injury. Not sure why he hasn’t moved back up.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 10, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Not that Crabb or Lombardi are great, but that line has been really unimpressive. Most games its either the Grabbo or Kessel line that get it done, which is fine given they are the top 6, but its really rare for the 3rd line to get much done. And the minutes are not always totally imbalanced, the 3rd line gets decent TOI.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Connolly has lost about 4 minutes per game from when he was playing with Kessel.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 10, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
I’m part of the group that believes players don’t just “lose time” because it’s taken away from them…. they often aren’t playing well enough to deserve that time.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
I’d like to know if Draglikepull thinks Connolly has played good enough to demand more minutes, because I’m just not sure he has. That said, I’d like to hear different views.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
If Connolly is healthy I would be playing him on the first line and giving him 1st unit PP time, yes. He’s looked great every time he’s played with Kessel and Lupul this season and he’s significantly more skilled than Bozak.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 10, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
how about players that come back from injury and need to be slowly worked back into the line up, but the guy who took your spot is doing a pretty good job and the coach doesn’t want to spoil chemistry?
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Ya there are definitely reasons beyond what I stated for lost TOI
But it’s a problem P/60 has that I’m starting to have to consider when comparing talent / production.
For Connolly, how much slower can he be worked back in? Bozak doesn’t seem to want to give up that spot. He’s been on a tear lately.
If Connolly was producing at 3C I’d be okay with the balanced production. For the last month or so, he hasn’t produced anything.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
as you said, Bozak has been on a tear lately, Connolly would have to go full on Malkin mode to displace him, especially with the limited ice time he is getting
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
3 points in 15 games. That’s like, Philippe Dupuis level production.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
For a guy who IS talented (there’s no arguing that), he’s gotta do better than that.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
its not Phillippe “0 points in 30 games” Dupuis bad, but its not good from a guy like Connolly.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
I exaggerated for effect
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
right, he does, but right now trading him for anything less than an upgrade or having a ready Colborne like prospect in the wings is silly
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Disagree, but whatever.
If we could unload him now, at the draft, before July 1, whenever, I’d be happy.
Who says we can’t have civil disagreements at PPP anyway?
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
I just dont see why Burke has to unload him at this point
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Happy to keep him… but he needs to play with some fire in the belly… a bit more like a Lombardi, who seems to have the desire.
Or perhaps he’s just injured and playing through it.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 10, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Or perhaps he’s just injured and playing through it.
This seems like a real possibility that kind of bugs me.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Bare with me for a sec, some hypotheticals
1) Wants to trade with a team, needs salary going the other way to make it fit
2) Other teams may want a playmaking C for a playoff push (due to injuries, etc.), may be more valuable now than in the summer
3) Burke has always said he’d punch a hole for a player if they deserved a spot on the roster – maybe BB or RW or Dallas Eakins think one of the kids in the Marlies deserves that opportunity full time.
Again, I’m not fussed if it happens before the deadline or not. This wasn’t a “must make a deadline deal” thing.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Phil Kessel went 13 games without a goal last season. Sundin once went like 20. Sometimes good players slump.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 10, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing would make me happier than to be proven wrong and him go on a crazy point production tear.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
having connolly means we dont have to dress a 3rd line c like boyce, and it also means we dont have to depend on a rookie c in colborne who as never played more than 10 games in the nhl
- what im saying is having connolly is all about c depth and having different options
If 3 points in 15 games is the type of C depth we’re talking about then we have some real pressing depth problems.
Having his cap space available also gives us options.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
realistically who do you believe on this roster would provide more scoring, can step in and play the 1c spot, and be semi competent on the pp.
scoring, can step in and play the 1c spot, and be semi competent on the pp.
Right now, Connolly is doing none of those things.
As I said below, I think Lombardi is fine in the 3C. Bozak is getting it done temporarily but I’ve always said we need a 1C upgrade.
Of course that’s much easier said than done.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
having him on the Leafs gives us options
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
So, different options either way.
Personally I don’t really like the options he’s giving us right now, but I do hope he steps it up.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
indeed, I have no problems waving good bye to tim if it somehow makes the leafs better, now or in the future, I mean if a contender wants him for an over payment in picks and prospects or something than the short term downfall outweighs the long term benefits
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
That would be ideal IMO.
This whole thing really started with how disappointed I am in his current level of play, how he’s being used, if he’s playing injured, and not playing to his contract
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
but Connolly value is nowhere near a picks/prospects package right now, partly because of his injury history and recent play.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
the point, you missed it
let me reiterate
there is NO need to move Connolly until
A) a team over pays with futures so much that it out weighs the current need for depth
B) Colborne/ Kadri is ready to step in and do at least as good a job as him for way cheaper
C) Cap space is needed on the now to upgrade another dire need that the Leafs have such as a number one Center or shut down guy
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
he is also getting 3rd line minuites and Bozak is riding shotgun with Lupul and Kessel
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
very true, but if that’s what he’ll do here, he is a waste of cap space.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
he should be on the first line
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
add up all the cap space we waste and its why we will have problems this summer. We would barely be able to add players, and they’d have to be mediocre, without offloading salary/contracts in the summer.
13 million in space sounds good, then you realize we have to:
A) re-sign Kule (let’s say 2.5)
B) re-sign Franson, Aulie (let’s say ~3m total, which is conservative)
C) Pick up a goalie or re-sign Gus (no cheaper than 1 million)
D) Improve our team (leaving about 6.5 million.)
By no means are we in dire straights, but it’s not a great position.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Assuming that the team makes zero trades between now and July 1st, which I think is extremely unlikely.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 10, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Very true, there could easily be something liek that, I’m just saying without it, we’re not exactly in good shape and we cant really afford to take salary dumps or anything like that to get the good player we want, as we have done in the past.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
you also forgot resigning grabovski
but don`t pretend for a minuite Burke wont make cap space if he can
can you think of a single time where cap space has limited the Leafs ability to operate?
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
Not ability to operate – but maybe to land free agents.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
doubt it, the only thing that has limited that is Burkes refusal to do those long term diminishing cash deals
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Only UFAs really worth chasing this summer are Parise and Suter. Possible neither of them makes it to July 1. Possible Burke isn’t interested. I think trades are a more likely way for Burke to upgrade the roster.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 10, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
I purposely didn’t include that because that takes us to about 1 million in cap space with the same team – unacceptabe as its clear we’re not that great. We need to continue to improve.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
right, and what makes you think Burke wont be able to make space if he needs it?
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
because the contracts that we would want to give up are more or less anchors, e.g. Komi, Armstrong. Maybe Connolly or Lombardi could be moved. Maybe.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Toskala, Vesa
Blake, Jason
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I know, something in me just thinks we cant keep robbing these GMs blind, but I should have more faith in Burke.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
the toskala/blake trade wasn’t robbery, it was a sound deal for both teams for different reasons
and Burke is also not affraid to move players he has no want for in exchange for peanuts
remember Kubina? it was a bad trade, sure, but it got the Leafs cap space
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
True I guess, we’ll see what he does to address the issues we have.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
We don’t really have space for anybody new within the existing line-up – there’s already no room for Holzer, Frattin, Kadri and Colborne.
if space is needed, space will be made
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Franson got a lot of irrational dislike at the start of the season as well…
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 10, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
he didn’t play great but once given a chance he proved himself.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
True, my comment was more about the “quick to judgement” aspect of the dislike directed his way. He hadn’t played that many games before people were advocating his removal from the lineup.
Not sure how much worse it would have been if we couldn’t fall back on “yeah, but because of him we have no Brett Lebda!” joyousness.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 10, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
Ya, I wasn’t one of them in that case.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
Playing like shit then complaining in the media usually makes fans not like you
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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re: blue chip prospects article: I do agree something has to give. We have too many mediocre players taking up spots that our older AHL prospects could take. I doubt much changes for us this season but in the summer we really need to:
a) Off-load or bury salary (e.g. Komi)
b) Give our best prospects the change of playing on the 3rd line or higher, especially Colborne, Kadri and Frattin.
That last one is really important not only because those guys are about as close to ready as they will get (perhaps except Colborne, who knows?) and we will be bringing up some guys from the OHL to the AHL (Ross, McKegg, with decisions to be made on Carrick and others). We need to make room to keep this depth pushing for spots.
Shit I forgot about Carrick
That might means at least 6 potential SPC slots taken next year for new kids on the Marlies. (Carrick, McKegg, Ross, Nicholls, Crescenzi, Olden)
Going back to the conversation from yesterday (day before?), are there 6 pending expiring contracts we can easily agree that should go?
Greenhop, Dupuis, Finger are obvious. Dale Mitchell, Jay Rosehill are probable/possible. Lashoff? One (or both) of Gustavsson/Rynnas let go?
I think that takes us right to 50… might have to let go even more if we want to sign more College/European FAs.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
pretty sure Olden qualifies for an over ager year because of his late birthday
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
got to it before me. he’s also just come to the NA leagues and he has been injured part of the season.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm might have to dig through the CBA but there’s something about sliding an ELC contract twice that has to do with birthdate.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm here's what Im thinking of
Ugh it’s not letting me copy and paste, but in the CBA:
http://www.nhlpa.com/docs/about-us/nhl_nhlpa_2005_cba.pdf
9.1 (d)(i) and (ii)
Trying to decipher the legalese, but i THINK it’s saying a player can slide his ELC twice ONLY IF he signed it when he was 18 (so he could slide it for his 18 y/o season and 19 y/o season), and NOT if he signed when he was 19 (like Olden ) for his 19th and 20th y/o seasons.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
huh, so that makes the Broll signing make all sorts of sense
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
i think Olden does an overage year, he’s a longer-term project.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
McKegg and Ross definitely get one if they arent already signed to ELCs.
I think Carrick is very possible – he’s not going to be a top 6 forward or anything but he’s the captain of his team and is performing well as an all-around player.
Nicholls’ stats seem impressive enough to get a shot at the AHL level, but I haven’t watched him play.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
I only know Nicholls because of his stats, but they’re very impressive for a 7th rounder.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
lanky 2 way forward, deceptive speed, good play maker, decent hands, better shot
upside is a good to great 2nd liner in the NHL, needs to fill out a bit, but was set back with a sprained MCL this year
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
He was playing with some very good players in the W as well. I wonder if it will translate to the Marlies
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
except for less than half a season of Brayden Schenn last season (nicholls was tearing it up way before that trade) the only other A list prospect name he has played with is Defender Duncan Seimens (teehee)
he hasn’t had very much help
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
anyone who puts up numbers that high, regardless of who they play wtih atleast deserves a look, in my opinion
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by CameronSorley on Feb 10, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Nicholls numbers actually dropped a bit after the Schenn trade due to loss of ice time, PP time and better line mates because of being bumped by Schenn, but he still put up impressive 7th rounder numbers
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Mckegg already signed one
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 10, 2012 3:46 PM EST reply actions
and most obviously, the excellent 25 under 25 part of this site.
by Goosemonster on Feb 10, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
There's always Hockey Prospectus
They have a … different way of analyzing prospects.
http://www.puckprospectus.com/
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
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Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Impossible… he’s not on the Red Wings.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 10, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
ah yeah. the site’s very ghetto but it seems interesting. Looks like I’d have to buy the analysis, though it isnt very expensive.
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