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Mats Sundin Memory # 2 - Greatest Of All Time

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For the next two days, we're running 13 of our top memories of Mats Sundin as a Maple Leaf. There are more to choose from but Sundin captaining Sweden to Gold in 2006 and his years as a Nordique won't make an appearance on the list. For help, I enlisted Mats Sundin's biggest fan Eyebleaf to help come up with and number the list. It's far from exhaustive and your mileage may vary on our choices but these were the 13 that came immediately into our minds so consider it a small token of our appreciation for one of the greatest Leafs of all-time.

I was invited onto the Marek vs. Wyshynski podcast (which I forgot was on Sportsnet which could have been awkward when I almost said "those idiots on Sportsnet") on Friday to talk about Mats Sundin's tenure as a Leaf and I was asked for his place in the pantheon of Leaf greats. Being a young guy, I noted that for fans of a certain vintage, he'll never match Keon or Sittler but that at worst they have to admit he's in the troika of Toronto greats. However, for my generation, there is no doubt that he is the greatest we've had, are likely to have, and a lot of us would argue he's the greatest of all-time.

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I think that this story means that we need to get Eyebleaf more Leafs tickets. He saw Mats' 1000th point in Edmonton and the night he surpassed Darryl Sittler as the high scorer in club history.

It was early in the 2007/2008 season that Mats Sundin became, once and for all, statistically-speaking, the greatest Toronto Maple Leaf of all-time. In an 8-1 rout of the New York Islanders, Sundin scored his 390th career goal in a Toronto uniform, and his 917th point in a Toronto uniform, becoming the franchise leader in goals and points, surpassing the great Darryl Sittler. I happened to be at the game that night, free tickets falling into my lap two hours before puck-drop. We feted Sundin three times that night with standing ovations: once, when he was credited with an assist on an early goal that we thought set the record; it was eventually taken away. Twice, when Sundin scored, this time leaving no doubt that he'd set the new Toronto Maple Leafs standard. And a third time, after the game, when Sundin was named the first, second, and third star of the evening. It's a night I'll never forget.

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What did Wyshynski have to say about Mats?

In my memory, I have rarely heard Greg say anything positive.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Feb 11, 2012 5:43 PM EST reply actions  

Listen! He actually had a lot of good to say. Agreed that Holik might have been a little optimistic in his ranking of Sundin.

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by PPP on Feb 12, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you mean, “Listen!”, as in, “Hey muthafucka!”, or do you mean, “Listen!”, as in, “Go find a link somewhere and listen to it”?

Seriously though, I have little doubt that, when talking to you, on the day of Sundin’s ceremony, Greg was not full of snark and scorn.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Feb 12, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Kind of a lame goal from what I remember

But I still cheered until my lungs gave out

I know what #1 is. It can only be one thing and if I’m right it is my all time favourite Mats moment.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Feb 11, 2012 5:53 PM EST reply actions  

I’m not as old as some, but would not be surprised at all to find myself in the oldest percentile on this site.

Having seen a good chunk of Sittler’s career, and having often discussed the topic of greatest Leaf ever, I’d be hard pressed to recall anyone being adamant that Darryl belongs at the top. I’ve probably seen Keon wearing green 1000 times more often than blue, but Sittler simply never held a candle to Keon.

So is Sundin as good or better than Keon? Hard to say. But clearly, Sundin > Sittler.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Feb 11, 2012 5:54 PM EST reply actions  

Nope, I’d go Keon, Sittler, Sundin of those three. To me, though a lot of people simply disagree, when the going got tough Sittler and Keon raised their games to new heights. Mats, no. Sundn was very good, but he’s not the Greatest Leaf, no way.

by dsciswe on Feb 11, 2012 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

Regular season GPG: Sittler .44, Sundin .42
Playoff GPG: Sittler .38, Sundin .42

Guess Mats just couldn’t find that “higher level”.

I've been looking at the sky

by Back In Black on Feb 11, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s about par for the course for him.

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by PPP on Feb 12, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s not that I don’t think you could make a cogent argument that Sittler was better – or Keon, or Salming, or Gilmour, or Teeder. This garbage ‘not elevating his game’ theme was trotted out time and again by people who really didn’t like him because he wasn’t much for throwing elbows and getting into fights. Sundin didn’t look emotional enough (i.e. violent-when-losing) so they decided he didn’t care.

He is European, you know...

I've been looking at the sky

by Back In Black on Feb 12, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I meant in reply to the original comment. We’re on the same page.

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by PPP on Feb 13, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

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