Flames 5 Leafs 1: Somehow Still in Eighth
by Chemmy on Feb 14, 2012 11:42 PM EST
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As Sportsnet leads every commercial break with Rick Nash news people everywhere want Brian Burke to add a "forward with size". Ignoring the enormous cost of both Nash's contract and the likely trading chips to bring him here: it doesn't make sense. Toronto is sixth in the league in goals for per game and twenty second in goals against per game.
To be fair Jonas Gustavsson wasn't horrendous tonight, most of us have certainly seen him turn in worse performances, though saying he played "well" or really even "kinda ok" is a big stretch. At the team level between Gustavsson and Reimer's struggles the Leafs team goaltending is yet again among the league's worst (18th).
Tonight was an absolute horror show by Dion Phaneuf, and the easy jokes for radio call ins will be that Calgary is glad to be rid of him. They only see him once a year now and after the game he turned in I'm not sure he did a lot to disprove them. It's only one game for him, though without Carl Gunnarsson who might be the only defensive d-man on the team the Leafs D is in trouble. Toronto had climbed all the way to 19th in shots against per game, a number sure to get worse the longer Gunnarsson is gone.
This team's issue is the same thing that's plagued the Leafs since the lockout: poor defense and goaltending. These are needs that absolutely have to be addressed if the Leafs want to improve. The Sundin and Raycroft era Leafs scored a ton of goals, bad goaltending means that doesn't matter.
A bright side? This is hopefully the low point of the season. An awful run of games sees the Leafs 1 point up on ninth though the Capitals have a game in hand. Toronto has time to turn it around starting tomorrow night in Edmonton.
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Game In 10
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 14, 2012 11:43 PM EST reply actions
Stop reminding me.
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by Nifty Mittens on Feb 14, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
I.B. Sad :(
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 14, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
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Hear that? That's the sound of "leaf fans" scuffling to get back on the bandwagon.
by Saucepass on Feb 14, 2012 11:44 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Of all the defenceman to call out its Dion? Not Komi, not Schenn, not Liles.
Jesus. They all played fuckin awful.
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by leafer1984 on Feb 14, 2012 11:44 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Weren’t you just saying you didn’t watch the first period?
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Went back and watched the goals. Yes sir, he totally was 100% at fault. Send him back to Alberta.
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by leafer1984 on Feb 14, 2012 11:47 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Because that’s what I said. Not that he had one bad game leafer, I said “send him back to Alberta”.
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Phaneuf made two brutal plays on goals one and two and then took a stupid play to give up a penalty shot on number three. It was a bad game for him and I ended it with “It’s only one game for him”.
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by leafer1984 on Feb 14, 2012 11:48 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
Phaneuf played poorly tonight. You can admit that a player you like played a bad game.
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He absolutely played bad, I dont doubt that. He looks gassed out there.
Other defensemen were worse. That’s my point
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by leafer1984 on Feb 14, 2012 11:50 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
They always suck. What’s the point of saying they sucked? Phaneuf in Calgary is a big story and I ended my criticism of his bad game by saying it was one bad game.
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It has not been one bad game by Phaneuf.
During games over the past week he has been especially bad and I think its time to call him out.
I agree the other defenders had flaws but no one is coming close to how much Phaneuf is costing the Leafs at this time and at pivotal points in the game.
When I pay attention to his play I cringe, its almost like he just ignores fundamentals of defensive hockey. I really hope he can give his head a shake and turn this around. I’m still shaking my head over that 2-on-1 “attempt”
Phanuef has been pretty bad the last 5-10 games.
Lars Eller made him look bad Saturday, Lars Eller
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by CameronSorley on Feb 14, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t have extended Liles, I don’t know how Toronto gets rid of Komisarek and I’m praying Luke Schenn becomes a decent #6 d-man sometime.
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I’ve been getting Shit on all year for saying Liles isn’t that good. I hate his deal
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by leafer1984 on Feb 14, 2012 11:52 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Liles is fine-ish, though he was one of the worst tonight. I don’t know why we need four more years of him at $4M.
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Positives: we’re not doing as badly as Chicago right now.
Negatives: we’re THIS CLOSE to doing as badly as Chicago right now.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 14, 2012 11:45 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Give me Toews, Kane and Sharp and I’ll gladly sign for us to go on a 9 game losing streak
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 14, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
I would much rather they give us Toews, Kane, and Sharp and then sign up to go on a 9 game winning streak if it’s all the same to you
Fuck Kerry Fraser
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Fine, if you insist.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 14, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh, the last time this happened Chicago won the Cup before we did.
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So, what you’re saying is we’ll make the playoffs and win the Cup?
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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 14, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
It’s kind of amazing that we’re still in eighth. Go Reimer, go Armstrong (you know he’ll be back tomorrow).
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…still not 100% on this one. Great Big Save Reimer?
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Gotta Be Startin’ Reimer…
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Thank god we grabbed a goalie to fuck our lottery pick once.
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Gotta be starting someone. I kind of liked the win and you’re in thing for awhile, but I think they’d be better off letting someone have a string of games without the constant fear of sitting out the next game. Give Reimer the net for 5 games and see what happens.
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by LeafBoy on Feb 14, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
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by LeafBoy on Feb 14, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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by Nifty Mittens on Feb 14, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
Typical haha, as soon as Rick Nash talk comes up and we claim our offence is fine… we score 5 goals in 4 games.
well, that escalated quickly
by aelanK on Feb 14, 2012 11:47 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
This by all means does not endorse acquiring a forward as opposed to a Beauchemin, it’s just more ammo for dumbass trolls.
well, that escalated quickly
so a nice “we’re sorry, please come back, we’ve changed, we didn’t mean all those things we said” boquet of flowers and chocolates (at tomorrow’s discounted prices, of course) for Beauchemin and everything will be alright, right? …right? …RIGHT?
Fuck Kerry Fraser
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I wasn’t sold on him, but I have to admit that Gunnarsson has indeed developed into a fine blueliner.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Feb 14, 2012 11:52 PM EST reply actions
He is our #2 if not #1 guy.
Likely the latter after tonight.
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by Nifty Mittens on Feb 14, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
18 months ago, I had him penciled in as the 7th-man. Nice progression since then.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Feb 14, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
He is #2.
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by leafer1984 on Feb 14, 2012 11:58 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I can’t offer much solace in regards to Phaneuf’s play, but I would point out he was playing on the left side tonight, where he has looked uncomfortable in the past.
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Also, Kessel line dominated possession tonight and had no luck.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
I thought Bozak was just lousy last game and needed to be replaced on the top line. I’ll admit he was much better tonight, even if his chances weren’t going in.
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by Back In Black on Feb 14, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
Bozak chances: 13 for 9 against
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Really? That’s what you guys saw out of the top line?
Lupul was a train wreck tonight. He looked disinterested, slow and out of sync with the other two. Directly at fault for the first goal – he leaves his position to float haflway towards the scrum in the corner, doesn’t get there, doesn’t stop the pass out to the very spot he just vacated … bam! back of net.
On the last goal, Kessel performs some sort of driveby near-pirouette out near Iggy, fails to get the puck, fails to get in the shooting lane – bam! back of net.
Kessel looked afraid to shoot the puck tonight, passing up several good chances (2 on 1 and he chooses to pass it away from the net to a trailer who is covered?) when I want to see him sniping at every chance he gets right now.
In general, the team looked like they were playing the last game of a long trip, not the first game.
Right now, we’re not a playoff team, not by a long shot.
Yes, Dion was flat-footed and took a bad penalty for the Byron goal.
Yes, Goose was poor, and we definitely lost out in the goaltending match up, but the bulk of this loss goes on the top line.
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 15, 2012 1:54 AM EST up reply actions
Ron Wilson talking about poor decisions tonight.
i’m guessing he was talking about his. The guy’s like Wile E. Coyote sometimes, only not as imaginative.
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I'm pulling out scoring chance data
Phaneuf 12 for 13 against isn’t terrible
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when he’s good he’s really really good, but when he’s bad… don’t get me wrong, i still love the guy though
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by OffTheChest on Feb 15, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
Player: For/Against
Kessel 15/10
Grabovski 8/9
Kulemin 3/2
Gardiner 13/14
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by Frag on Feb 14, 2012 11:59 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Positives
Kulemin: 2010-2011
Bozak: Another good game, what’s he trying to pull
Gardiner: +1, played 23-some-odd minutes
At some point they showed that we were dominating faceoffs as well, not sure if that continued.
well, that escalated quickly
I agree that Gardiner looked pretty good this game. Made some good passes and a few great defensive plays.
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Agreed. Gardiner was the only positive part of this game.
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by Gary Roberts: Baby Eater on Feb 15, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
and Kessel
don’t forget Kessel. i don’t know if i’m justing being bias but he always looks good.
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by OffTheChest on Feb 15, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
that's ok,
so is Giroux, Stamkos and Malkin.
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by OffTheChest on Feb 15, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
Woah, woah, woah, woah, woah. Woah.
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by Spezzal Teams Playa on Feb 15, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
If someone could photoshop Tim Connolly’s face on the side of a milk carton that would be fantastic
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by leafer1984 on Feb 15, 2012 12:04 AM EST via Android app reply actions 3 recs
“Missing” joke or builds strong bones joke?
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by Nifty Mittens on Feb 15, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions 9 recs
he doesn’t work on the right wing at all. In fact, I’m not sure he works anywhere right now.
by Goosemonster on Feb 15, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
He’s playing on the third line. He was Tyler Bozak insurance.
You don’t complain that you didn’t need to claim your car insurance, right?
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Did we switch to Geico?
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nah, we switched to the unreliable company that charges more, sooooo ummmm Allstate?
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by CameronSorley on Feb 15, 2012 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
All aire.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 15, 2012 8:06 AM EST up reply actions
And he’s got one year left. Leafs can jettison him if they need to during the offseason.
Toronto needs to fire Komisarek (somehow), Lombardi, and Armstrong into the sun before I’d worry about Connolly.
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Komi and Armstrong first for sure. Connolly and Lombardi I could go with either one.
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I guess I feel like Lombardi and Connolly both could show us more, but between playing on the third line and coming back from injury in Lombardi’s case I guess we shouldn’t expect the world.
If I needed cap space for Suter I’d jettison either.
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If I needed cap space for Suter I’d jettison either.
I concur.
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I also think Armstrong has been especially shittastic lately, it seems like every time he gets the puck he just throws it away to a stupid spot, and he hasn’t been much of a big hitter or that great on the forecheck. Methinks he is one of the guys who’s “scared to hit” with the new crackdown on headshots.
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The crazy thing is that there are probably a lot of people around the world who pay more than that per year insuring something.
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Anyone else find it really creepy that he wears #12? That seems to be our Ninja number.
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Man, I wish we had the “assassinate someone” kind of ninjas, and not the “I’m gonna go away for a while, who knows when I’m gonna come back” kind of ninjas…
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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 15, 2012 3:03 AM EST up reply actions
:)
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by Spezzal Teams Playa on Feb 15, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
the team on a whole has been on a hole and will only get 87-88 points this year. OUT of the playoffs. and Kessel will never sign with the Leafs again which puts us back about another 5 years on rebuilding after next year
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by Shield on Feb 15, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Neither the amount of points the Leafs are going to finish with, nor whether or not the Leafs will re-sign Kessel can be stated as facts. Therefore, you report nothing.
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How so, Kessel isn’t a UFA until 2014.
Either way, these aren’t facts, they’re unsupported predictions.
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At least your knowledge is consistent.
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by Shield on Feb 15, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ding ding ding ding!
What is life without hope?
by danishmarshmallow on Feb 15, 2012 8:19 AM EST up reply actions
Admitting a mistake is always a good thing to do, and people will respect you for it. The key thing to remember for next time is to avoid the “[I] just report facts” attitude. Try framing the comment more clearly as a prediction.
Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?
And considering the end of the season is 2012…
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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 15, 2012 3:04 AM EST up reply actions
This word you keep using. “Facts.” I do not think it means what you think it means.
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He probably thinks it’s a fact that he does.
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I really don’t think you know what the word “fact” means. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fact there you go
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by Killer Sundin on Feb 15, 2012 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
we were expecting you. you’re late…
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by OffTheChest on Feb 15, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
On both the first and fourth goal, the Leafs have forwards floating away from coverage in anticipation of a breakout while the Flames have possession. Since there’s no pressure to come from behind, the first is particularly egregious: three players including Schenn make moves into the corner to intercept the puck carrier, while the two remaining forwards, Bozak and Kessel, are circling, trying to lose the coverage that they’re supposed to initiate.
It sure seems like the team is deliberately cheating in their own zone, trying to generate rushes off the turnover, but it’s coming at the expense of actually defending the slot. What’s disturbing to me is that more and more, this seems to be the actual plan rather than a failure to execute.
Has anyone else noticed this pattern? Isn’t this a coaching issue?
Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?
Who on this team can we absolutely say we can’t live without?
Kessel
Grabovski
Gunnarson
…
Is that it? Reimer when he’s on. This team has performed well-enough but has holes from top to bottom.
Also, can anyone honestly say the Leafs cannot live without Wilson? I’m sick of watching the Leafs getting hemmed in for entire periods because they can’t clear the fucking zone. And don’t tell me this is about tallent. NHL calibre players should be able to make decent passes. Fix the breakout and chances for/against start to turn in our favor.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 15, 2012 12:48 AM EST reply actions
If there is one thing I am willing to pin on Wilson, it is our horrendous breakout. Our breakout is worse than a 12 year old boy’s face after a week of cafeteria food.
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Would you prefer to watch more defensively responsible and boring NJ trap hockey (assuming this means the leafs won more consistently say similar to NJ current record)?
Or exciting run and gun hockey that produces major defensive lapses an inconsistent hit or miss showing by the team?
NJ games put me to sleep. And I don’t even know if the leafs will win more with this style. I just know that NJ and Panthers seem to and they don’t strike me as being that much more talented.
Hmm ....
… admittedly a tad biased cough beeing a Swede, but seriously; this was not Gus´s fault!
The Leafs d are the worst I have seen in years watching the NHL and it´s really disturbing that one of the, if not THE, worst is the teams C.
Maybe Phaneuf would be better off as a forward? He couldn´t do much worse.
A sadsadsad night as a Leafs-fan.
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by Killer Sundin on Feb 15, 2012 1:20 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe tonight and the last few games he hasn’t looked solid but he can play. But I might question his effectiveness as a leader on that team and his inability to get the team to show up after the Habs on Saturday.
We’ve lost 4 in a row after a solid start to the new year. Things will get better but the Leafs have been awful for a week and half now.
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Also the leafs need to call another team meeting as they haven’t showed for a few games now.
And someone tweet to Phaneuf, Friedman’s great quote about Pronger as Captain of the Flyers and how he called out his team when players did not show up. Maybe Phaneuf and the A are doing it, but I don’t see accountability and leadership on that team on the ice.
/end rant.
How 'Bout Gus?
You guys have pretty much touched on everthing that went bad last night. But, how about Gus on that penalty shot? I’m not crapping on him because he definitely wasn’t the worst Leaf on the ice last night, but whoa, that attempt at a save was horrible. he just put his stick on the ice and slowly turned to his right as the puck went right past him into the open net.
It stuck out because I didn’t get to watch the whole game with it being V-day yesterday.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 15, 2012 10:17 AM EST reply actions
Look on the Bright Side
Most of you didn’t pay good money to actually sit through last night’s game, then have to show up for work this morning and get chriped by an office full of middle-aged divorcees.
Just sayin’.
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