Why Not Listen To A Podcast?
by JP Nikota on Feb 21, 2012 7:00 AM EST
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PrintBecause of the long weekend, things were understandably slow in terms of online Leafs-related activity. As I write this (it's going on one in the morning), there are only a six links to add to the FTB, and two of them are podcasts.
The first one I'm linking to is from Marek Vs. Wyshynski Radio, though I confess to not having listened to this yet. But hey, Wyshynski is reliably funny, and Marek is a pretty sharp guy as well, so it's probably worth a shot.
The second is from Danny Gray, Cam Charron, and myself, over at The Leafs Nation. As you might imagine, ours is somewhat more Leafs-centric, and thus clearly superior.
Jump for a few links, and what I'm sure will be plenty of discussion.
History Lessons: Fans Behaving Badly
Ellen Etchingham always has awesome history tidbits. Definitely worth a read. From Backhand Shelf.
What do we really expect the Leafs to do in goal?
...be terrible? From Michael Langlois at Vintage Leaf Memories.
Marlies Beat Monsters In Yet Another Matchup
Dallas Eakins gets his 100th win with the Marlies. Recap from Jeffler at MarliesHQ.
Capitals continue Eastern Conference freefall to delight of Leafs, Jets
Woo! Losing! From Joedy McCreary.
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The Vancouver fans in the vicinity immediately distance themselves from the man and begin to loudly proclaim that he is just an anarchist
We're getting sick of him, he's just shouting congress tart
by PKSube on Feb 21, 2012 7:20 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
FTFY
The Vancouver fans in the vicinity immediately distance themselves from the man and begin to loudly proclaim that he isjust an anarchistfrom Maple Ridge
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Feb 21, 2012 8:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Security showed up to deal with the issue, but it may take upwards of 8 months to identify the culprit and remove him from the arena
Dammit Gomez.
by elseldo on Feb 21, 2012 7:37 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
1967 eh? that’s origional, how about 19-never?
/head aslpode
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 7:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
A Leafs fan showing a Vancouverite how it feels to be beaten senseless while not defending.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 21, 2012 7:48 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Even their fans appear to be fake tough.
"You said you didn't give a f#%k about hockey. And I never saw someone say that before..."
"Storm coming? Hatchet coming!"
by TheBurnward on Feb 21, 2012 8:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Kidding. Dude would throttle me.
"You said you didn't give a f#%k about hockey. And I never saw someone say that before..."
"Storm coming? Hatchet coming!"
btw do you have the cover of Yankee Hotel Foxtrot there as your picture?
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
As all good people should.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 21, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
Absolutely. I assumed it was, but I am looking at those buildings out of the classroom window at the moment… so I suppose he could have taken a picture of them at some point
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
That it tis, good sir.
"You said you didn't give a f#%k about hockey. And I never saw someone say that before..."
"Storm coming? Hatchet coming!"
by TheBurnward on Feb 21, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Having hair would have softened the blow.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
by SkinnyFish on Feb 21, 2012 8:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
those two bald fellas at the bottom seem scared by the injury of one of their own
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 8:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
" I dropped it by mistake. Now, give me my fucking pineapple back! "
" No one wants advice - only corroboration " - John Steinbeck
by GreatKingRat on Feb 21, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I said i’d only warn you once about shit-talking Kulemin on an SBNation blog. That’s what you GET.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 9:17 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Kulemin’s frustrations finally reach the breaking point and he decides to systematically, but still politely, beat the entire fan-base of the Vancouver Canucks to death.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 21, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Man in Henrik Jersey: Wish these out-of-towners would keep it down, I’m trying to watch the jumbotron. Oh look, a special on a slice of pizza…
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
by Learn2Leaf on Feb 21, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey, Lanny Malhotra! Looks like both you and your brother are good at face offs!
by Jo4nny on Feb 21, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
“This is why you never mess with the quiet Russians” – Danny Markov
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by PPP on Feb 21, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Is that Chemmy wearing a Henrik Sedin jersey?
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by Frag on Feb 21, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
anyone know the back story to this photo? Did Kulemin throw down with the guy bleeding everywhere?
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Feb 21, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So, i just saw a clip briefly on sportscentre this morning but did Ovechkin stomp off and go pout in the dressing room during yesterdays game?
3 more years and he’s in the KHL.
Dammit Gomez.
He said it was a skate problem, but I think I saw a Washington reporter last night say he was limping when he went to talk to reporters.
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Feb 21, 2012 8:28 AM EST up reply actions
Dude…you’re supposed to riot outside the arena.
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
by birky on Feb 21, 2012 7:40 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
also, for those that missed it yesterday, I talked to some sources about the trade deadline, heard some things, wrote a blog, etc
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 7:43 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
You have more credibility than half the Internet now.
99% of player salaries are payed out to only 1% of players. #OccupyNHL
I'm a Twitter twat.
CanadianMaple09 is an effective Facebook stalker.
Excellent. Except the part about getting Dustin Penner.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
don’t be a cock tease
“You may rely on it!
Rely on you being a cock tease?
“ask again later”
Did i piss myself?
“Without a doubt!”
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 21, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
at a game in Montreal, a fan created minor havoc by climbing up to the Forum rafters and dropping four extra pucks onto the ice
I don’t know if it was linked to on the weekend but this is an interesting article on Fan behavior throughout the NHL, from Backhand Shelf
Dammit Gomez.
by elseldo on Feb 21, 2012 7:58 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Uh, you might want to look over the links again
We're getting sick of him, he's just shouting congress tart
Canucks fans fighting? Never
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by leafer1984 on Feb 21, 2012 8:15 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Looks like that guy accidently wandered into Brian Burke’s Barn.
by Paper Bag Leaf Fan on Feb 21, 2012 9:14 AM EST reply actions
Like all our past games….big game tonight. Let’s welcome back arguably our best defender by winning a goddamned game.
Let’s welcome back arguably our best defender by winning a goddamned game.
Dion has been injured?
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by leafer1984 on Feb 21, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’d say Gunnar has been our best all around defender – pair him with anyone, put him in any situation, against top competition, etc.. Not that Phaneuf hasn’t been excellent for the most part.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
you’d be wrong
he is only paired against top guys when he is paired with Phaneuf
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
and they’re a solid pairing together, the problem was our other pairings werent that great. How did they solve it? By moving Gunnar to them.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
Lets see how Gunnar is if he was paired with keith Aulie or Mike Komisarek.
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right, because they can afford to move him, they cannot afford to move Phaneuf down because he is the best the team has, the Leafs NEED him on the top line more
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
well Gunnar won’t get you a ton of points, which is a big advantage Phaneuf has.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
he also isn’t as good in most of the other parts of the game
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
Physicality, scoring, being a captain, DJ-ing, dating a movie star ,looking like a caveman, truculence
*breath
talking like a cave man, trash talking, motivational speeches(“Somebody fucking go”)…
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 21, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
Speaking of trash talking, I wonder what he said to the Canucks bench after scoring on Saturday
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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It was so unpleasant, it was deemed too offensive to be put on the internet.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 21, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
Dion gets the toughest matchups and the toughest minutes, but he hasn’t looked like a world-class defender night-in night-out over the last few games.
Then again, few of the Leafs defensemen have.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
COvering up for Keith Aulie takes a lot out of a player
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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or Komisarek. Like that terrible hit he went for against Iginla that set up a 2 on 1. Oh god.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed this year he has been consistently competent.
Phaneuf can play better, but also a lot worse.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 21, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
So what’s the best thing about a big Leafs game on your birthday?
If we win, the Leafs win AND there’s cake.
If we lose, there’s still cake
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
there is always beer, there is not always cake
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
Isn’t (leafs – beer) just as impossible as dividing by zero?
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 21, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
See i was viewing it as beer is the constant in the equation with cake being the variable
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
So (leafs-beer) is part of a function that is only undefined when Leafs=beer?
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
beer isn;t the constant though, it’s variable – correlated with Leafs performance on a given night.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Never thought of it that way…. Gentlemen (and any ladies) I think we are well on our way to proving the existence of the Kessel particle (the subatomic particle that gives the universe goals)
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Win or Lose we always Booze
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
by WizardofNaz on Feb 21, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
I think the behaviour of beer is asymptotic. It can never be zero but it does vary with the quality of the team’s play.
beer = 2^(1/q) where q is the quality of game on a domain of {0<q<100, q is real} for example?
by thejohnkeating on Feb 21, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
You have put WAY too much thought into this
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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I'm a math teacher
Stuff like that is second nature. I’ve actually put way too little thought into it.
by thejohnkeating on Feb 21, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Interesting model, but beer absolutely can be zero.
If I don’t drink any beer… it’s zero.
I suggest using a piece-wise function in such scenarios.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
valid point. SO in keeping with the amount of drink moving inversely with quality of play, I guess we could define it as beer = 0 when q=100? Is there another variable we need to introduce?
by thejohnkeating on Feb 21, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
I dont drink while watching the leafs game unless im at a bar
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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except on Saturday when I had 3 glasses of wine
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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depends on who does the grocery shopping in your household
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
I have cheesecake in my fridge :)
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
by WizardofNaz on Feb 21, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
I find buying beer for yourself is less strange than buying cake for yourself
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
I have it on good authority that the cake is, in fact, a lie, so there is only beer + Leafs.
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 21, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
:( can I at least have a companion cube?
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
The cake is a lie.
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
by Learn2Leaf on Feb 21, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was waiting for this.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
Oh you like riots? Then let’s riot
and you thought it was over...
by Bullets on Feb 21, 2012 10:19 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
No way Nabokov stays in NYI past July 1... is there?
ChrisBottaNHL
Source: #Isles offering Evgeni Nabokov choice of 1 or 2-year contract, hope to sign him for 2.
Also, should they be working harder to sign Montoya? Only a .906 with the Isles this year, but also a decade younger than Nabokov.
Anyone else feel like signing Montoya July 1 would be a Gustavsson upgrade? Or am I just kidding myself.
No no, dig UP stupid.
.906!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
.921 last year (in limited games)
but then pretty much AHL all before that.
Jonas Gustavsson also has a .906 this year. Not sure if it’s an upgrade, downgrade, or lateral move.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
ALL OF THE BELOW AVERAGE BACKUP GOALTENDERS ARE BELONG TO THE LEAFS!
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
Weren’t people here advocating the idea of trading for Nabokov?
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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/sigh
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by leafer1984 on Feb 21, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Muse sucks.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
by SkinnyFish on Feb 21, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Sorry they are not on par with such musical stylings like Dave Matthews Band
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Muse really really sucks.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
by SkinnyFish on Feb 21, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Muse is like Nickleback. They aren’t really good, they get a lot of air play and EVERYONE LOVES TO HATE THEM AND TELL US ABOUT IT WHEN WE EVEN DIDN’T ASK!
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
by Learn2Leaf on Feb 21, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Only real “upgrades” on July 1 look like Vokoun (likely won’t come here), Biron (backup), Harding (backup, injury risk), Montoya, Nabokov, Emery? (not exactly lights out with Chicago), or…. Dan Ellis (lol)
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
looks like we GBSR
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
If the Leafs are giving up on Reimer or feeling so-so about him I’d go after Harding. If they still want to stick with Reimer as the starter I’d try to get Biron. Not sure if either would actually want to come to Toronto though
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Feb 21, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
No one is giving up on Reimer yet. Gustavsson probably though.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
I think a Reimer/Harding tandem could be decent. League average decent.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Hard to tell how goalies will do in new surrounding, but I bet Harding gets a few offers on July 1, assuming MIN doesn’t lock him up before then.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
Or, the more dangerous route that Burke would probably dare not go... RFA goalies this July
Price, Carey " 24
Rynnas, Jussi " 24
Tarkki, Iiro " 26
Rask, Tuukka " 24
Koskinen, Mikko " 23
Pavelec, Ondrej " 24
Sexsmith, Tyson " 22
Schneider, Cory " 25
Lack, Eddie " 24
Talbot, Cameron " 24
Modig, Mattias " 24
Lindback, Anders " 23
Cann, Trevor " 22
Cousineau, Marco " 22
Smith, Jeremy " 22
Cheverie, Marc " 24
Dubnyk, Devan " 25
Murphy, Mike " 23
Pielmeier, Timo " 22
Plante, Tyler " 24
Endras, Dennis " 26
Janus, Jaroslav " 22
Desjardins, Cedrick " 26
Stalock, Alex " 24
Engren, Atte " 27
Scrivens, Ben " 25
Irving, Leland " 23
Bishop, Ben " 25 <— is he UFA?
Zatkoff, Jeff " 24
Dekanich, Mark " 25
Pogge, Justin " 25
Foster, Brian " 25
Bachman, Richard " 24
Johnson, Chad " 25
Peters, Justin " 25
Thiessen, Brad " 25 <— what happened to this guy? Had crazy good numbers in the AHL until this year
Courchaine, Adam " 23
http://capgeek.com/free_agents.php?year_id=2012&team_id=-1&position_id=G&fa_type_id=1
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
ben bishop is a UFA for some bizarre CBA reason.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
He’s UFA unless he gets X number of starts before the end of the season. The same situation as Schneider had last year.
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter
There is 0.0000001% chance he hits that number.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 21, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
he would need to start 25 of the last 24 games… Now I’m no expert on math here but I think that would be hard to do
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
Thought he only had to play all the remaining games. Didn’t know they hit the magic number of no return already.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 21, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
StL might have 25 games remaining I guessed as when I looked last night the average team played 58 games already
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
St. Loo only has 23 games left.
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 21, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Unless he gets traded (I thought he would’ve made sense in Tampa), he’s going to be negotiating his next contract as a UFA.
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter
If only he’d actually do offer sheets I’d offer sheet Lindback since Nashville is going to be pretty tight up against their internal budget, and especially if they try to re-sign Suter
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
If we offersheet Rask I won’t know whether to laugh or cry
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Feb 21, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Giving Boston MORE of our picks? No thanks… they’ve had enough recently
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
do we get another Phil Kessel like talent out of it?
If so, who the fuck cares?
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Well in this case it’d be a talent that we gave away to them in the first place. Not sure what the score would be like then
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Feb 21, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
does it make the Leafs better?
yes
Leafs win
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Well it’d also depend on how much we offer sheet him for (i.e offer sheeting him a stupid amount of money to get boston to let him go)
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
I wonder if we could give Raycroft back to them
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Feb 21, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
I’d offersheet the shit out of Rask
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by LeafFan1989 on Feb 21, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
BOTH OF THEM!!!!!
Leads to a question, can you offersheet two players when the same picks are heading the otherway?
Toronto Maple Leafs: Lupul is Lupul backwards
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by LeafFan1989 on Feb 21, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Price has to be the first option…
Go 1 $ below 5 firsts for him if you have to. I’d do 2 1sts a 2nd and a 3rd for him in a heartbeat.
Then you can trade Reimer to recoup some of the value lost.
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
by WizardofNaz on Feb 21, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
I dont want to offer sheet any of those guys. Those teams will match any fair offer, meaning we’d have to give them a ridiculous contract AND give up a ton of picks? Why? I’d like our next 3 1st picks, thank you very much.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
If you trade Reimer now you get next to nothing. His value is at a nadir
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Feb 21, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
I'd offer sheet Price even knowing Montreal would match.
Send him a 5 × 6M offer or something. Enjoy that cap mess, Montreal.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
If Burke was ever going to offersheet anybody it would’ve been for Stamkos. It’s exceedingly unlikely he’d do that for a goalie if he didn’t for the best scorer in the NHL
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Feb 21, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
He won’t do it, but I just want to fuck over the Habs.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
It would be glorious
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Feb 21, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Story out of Montreal was that Price was offered $7mill x 7yrs and he turned it down wanting $7×10yrs. They would love you long time if they got him that cheap and on that term.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 21, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Sounds like a negotiation tactic, but if he gets that? Awesome.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Just saying a 5 Ă— 6M offer never gets excepted. If they are willing to pay $7/yr that is a nice chunk of cap.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 21, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Rask is fairly crazy, which might be an issue for the Leafs.
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
why? the Leafs have a pretty solid track record with crazies
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
i miss his old leg hacking when players stood in front of him.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
I think it creates another year of “who’s No. 1?” and I’d rather not have that
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Feb 21, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Who gives a shit? Seems to be hurting Vancouver a lot, having that question…
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
Well it’s sure not working out all that great for the Leafs right now is it?
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Feb 21, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
It’s a great problem when both goalies play like a No. 1. It’s a big headache when neither does.
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Feb 21, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
That is because the goalies aren’t good. Not the uncertainty.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
Considering how many people around here have been clamouring for Wilson to drop the “win and you’re in” thing and just go with one of them, I wouldn’t discount it completely
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Feb 21, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
This place is going to explode when Burke signs Gus to a 2-year extension this summer.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Feb 21, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
After he goes on a tear, gets us to the playoffs and the Conference finals
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 21, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t put it out of the realm of possibility.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not even joking. I think Gustavsson will get an extension this summer if his numbers remain roughly where they are, especially if the Leafs make the playoffs.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 21, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
someone has to play for the marlies
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Scrivens? You’d figure he gets a shot at the backup job next year
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by T is for Truculence on Feb 21, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Reimer/Scrivens?
That’s a recipe for disaster, assuming Reimer doesn’t return to his previously unsustainable Optimus Reim state.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Well would you prefer that or another year of Reimer/Gustavsson?
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by T is for Truculence on Feb 21, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure Scrivens is an improvement on Gustavsson at this point.
Both are not great options. Can’t we just get Vokoun & Mike Weaver?
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
If Gus finishes the season at where he is now I’m ok with it.
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you’ve come a long way
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 21, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
so has the D (sometimes)
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 21, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
obviously
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 21, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I think it was the second Leafs Nation podcast that I said that if he finishes where he is right now that he’ll get re-signed
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Last year I was on the Theodore band wagon. This year I think I am leaning towards Harding.
Though I am a fan of Biron and Montoya too. Obviously Vokoun is awesome, but I can’t see him wanting to play here.
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How about because our star winger isn’t a selfish whiny prima donna?
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 21, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
I like Ovechkin.
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He did not look like a good team guy in that Carolina game yesterday. Not sure what was up, but there was something “wrong” going on there…
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 21, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Didn’t see the game. What exactly happened?
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 1:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
poor play on ice – out of sync with linemates
yelling at his own team while on bench about getting him the puck
left bench with six minutes left in second period for “equipment issue”, did not return until the start of the 3rd.
The last one could be legit, but body language and facial contortions painted a picture of a guy who was totally frustrated at playing hockey yesterday … and he wasn’t looking like a leader, he was looking like a complainer.
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 21, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
And he also tried to steal the puck from one of his own teammates, which lead to a turnover and goal for Carolinia.
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And he took his time skating back into the defensive zone after the turn over. He is practically untradeable but so was Roy for a period.
And if this was Kessel on Toronto – wow the media circus that would be brewing.
If Washington is interested in trading Ovi I am ALL OVER that.
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 3:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Haha I know
Just responding to jeff’s comment that “he is untradeable”.
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 3:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I have a hard time believing that Nabokov is going to want to stay with them, but realistically he may get more playing time with them than he’d get anywhere else due to his age
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
Well I guess Columbus might go after him as a stop gap. But other than them the number of teams that would want to use him as a starter is low
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Columbus will have Bernier by then.
I hope.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Well I’d hope Stevie Y would realize it might be smarter to stop pinning the hopes of his team on elderly goalies…
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
If he needs another 1 yr stopgap if say he gets Bishop and doesn’t want to be stuck with him getting 60 starts next year…
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by WizardofNaz on Feb 21, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
getting 60 starts next year
You’re assuming he doesn’t want another #1 overall pick (that kid from Cole Harbour?)
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think Stevie has it in him to tank an entire season…
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by WizardofNaz on Feb 21, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
People assume that kid will go first overall, but his numbers don’t look better than Couturier’s 2 years ago do they?
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Maybe he’ll fall all the way to 30th so we can grab him!
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I see what you did there
RE-SIGN GRABBO
by Chris Stoikoff on Feb 21, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
you follow carlpeelash on twitter? Ask him about Nathan MacKinnon. The kid is gonna be a star
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Cool. I hope we get him somehow.
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Reimer/Gustavsson would have to go full Toskala
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
and Kessel and Phaneuf get hurt for most of next season
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
I was more hoping
He remains as awesome as he is, but Howson decides to screw over the franchise right before he is fired and trades us their 2013 first rounder and we get first overall!
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Too late! No backsies!
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
well lots of things happened with Couturier, he didnt improve very much in his draft year and lots of other guys did
Yakupov also scored more points last year than Couturier ever did in Jr and has been hurt this season but is still almost rocking a 2ppg pace
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
That is kind of my point. What if MacKinnon doesn’t improve next year?
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doh, that’s what i get for asuming things without reading, thought you were talking about Yakupov not macKinnon
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Couturier (turned 17 in the middle of the season in December)
68 GP 41 G 96 pts
MacKinnon (turned 16 before the season started (so admittedly is about 9 months younger. Didn’t realize this before)
47 GP 26G 65 pts
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Further comparisons
Tavares at the same age (16 before the start of the season)
67 GP 70 G 134 pts
Spezza (turned 16 in June so was a few months younger)
52 GP 24 G 61 pts
Crosby
59 GP 54 G 135 pts
I am not trying to say he won’t be great (it definitely looks like he will be), I just don’t understand why people assume he is going to be the next generational talent, instead of just the next Spezza (which is still great). (I do see though that he is also from Cole Harbour so that makes a nice story).
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He’s getting the Tavares/Couturier treatment where he’s so good all his flaws are going to be picked apart by everyone…
Everyone says this kid is a special player.
Also how crazy is it.
2004 draft Russians go #1 and 2 (Scoring winger talented big centre)
2005 Super hyped player from Cole Harbour goes #1
2012 and 2013 have potential to repeat that exactly…
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by WizardofNaz on Feb 21, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
its kinda creepy when you think about it
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Also the 2004 draft was right before the CBA expired and the 2005 draft was the first draft of the new CBA… 2012 will be the last draft of this CBA and 2013 will be the first draft of the new one
EVERYTHING IS HAPPENING!!
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by WizardofNaz on Feb 21, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Pens win the lottery after lockout, again!
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 21, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
No its whoever gets the 2nd overall pick in this years draft gets #1 in 2013… and since it was the Penguins drafting #1 in ’03 and 2nd in ’04 and it looks like Oilers will draft 2nd this year after drafting 1st last year they obviously will get the #1 pick…
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by WizardofNaz on Feb 21, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
man they are going to be stacked on forward, they really will be able to run 3 first lines!
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Best of luck trying to pay them. All UFA @ 25
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 21, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
I think its official… Yakupov is going to start selling Wunderbars, and we need to wrap MacKinnons head in bubblewrap…
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by WizardofNaz on Feb 21, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Except no one has taken a goalie #1 overall recently…
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
MacKinnon’s numbers are waaaaay better.
At 16, Couturier eas playing midget. Then at 17, he had 31 points.
MacKinnon is already at 65 points this year, at age 16.
He won’t be 17 til NEXT September.
Wooooo….. Go Nova Scotia!
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 21, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, misread a year. At 16 he had 31.
Also, hadn’t read below.
So……. bye!
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 21, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
I bet he’s eyeing a job in Chicago in the offseason
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by T is for Truculence on Feb 21, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
I think Chicago is in a somewhat similar situation as Toronto, in that Crawford has been the opposite of great, but they aren’t ready to give up on him yet. Obviously he’s played worse than Reimer, but I don’t think they’re totally ready to give up on him yet, making Nabokov possibly a back-up (if Crawford rebounds next season) or a starter
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed. That said if I’m Nabokov and my choices are Columbus and Chicago, I think I’d pick Chicago
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by T is for Truculence on Feb 21, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
Personally me too, but Columbus will likely guarantee him more playing time, and probably offer him significantly more money (and possibly years) than Chicago can (especially if Nash is gone). At 36 (IIRC) he may be more interested in the extra money when looking at his approaching retirement.
On the other hand, Chicago gives him a chance to win a cup. No idea what his primary motivation would be
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
I think Chicago’s pitch would be “The No. 1 job is yours if you can win it in training camp” while Columbus would be “We’ll play the hell out of you but you’re not going to have a winning record.”
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by T is for Truculence on Feb 21, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t know about the “most likely wants to start”. He signed with Detroit last year where he had to know he was likely the back up.
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Nabokov didn’t want to go to the Isles last year. Earlier this year there was talk that he wanted out again. Why would he sign an extension unless they offer him crazy money?
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by Draglikepull on Feb 21, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Montoya has gone cold in the last couple months. I was definitely interested in him back in December.
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Optional skate for Leafs this morning. Lupul back on the ice after missing practice Monday. Gustavsson starts in goal.
Via Jonas Siegal
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Good news on Lupul. Not surprising on goalie.
Sigh. Leafs continue to have holes in net… and water is wet. And that rhymed.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
don’t fret, just try to forget
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Leafs fan here, have we met?
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 21, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Why don’t we go eat some hay, make things out of clay, lay by the bay, what’d you say?
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any body want a peanut?
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Gustavsson starts in goal.
Honestly, who cares anymore? Just flip a coin. It doesn’t matter.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
Why was Lupul not at practice Monday?
by LeafInVancouver on Feb 21, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
Just like real people!
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 21, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
I hear they even go to the bathroom sometimes.
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yeah like during a playoff game /LOLongo
Dammit Gomez.
by elseldo on Feb 21, 2012 3:43 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
…I keep forgetting what happens when you ask questions here. I thought I’d missed news about him being injured or something.
For reference this is what the past fews days for me have been:
Saturday: Resist urge to weep uncontrollably until home from Rogers Arena.
Sunday: Continued weeping interrupted by a trip to the cultural wasteland that is Surrey.
Monday: Heavy drinking.
Today: Hangover and you jerks.
by LeafInVancouver on Feb 21, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah dude I feel your pain. I got second row tickets behind the net at MSG after my wedding, so Leafs – Rangers in like April of 2010. That’s the game Gustavsson gave up three horrible goals in the first five shots, and they all happened like 10 feet away from me.
It’s the only hockey game I’ve ever left early.
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I’ve lived in Vancouver for 22/26 of my years and have successfully avoided going to Surrey…what brought you out there?
…the Old Navy there had a sale on Star Wars and Star Trek-themed onesies.
by LeafInVancouver on Feb 21, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
Maintenance day.
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Speaking of podcasts…
PPP Episode 16 recorded last night.
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by Chemmy on Feb 21, 2012 11:09 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Nice it is always best to do them in a losing streak, just to hear the sad undertone.
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Hahaha. I was mega hungover and had the Sens highlights basically on a loop on TV. Towards the end I got frowny.
Good news is we’re hoping to record again next week AFTER THE BIG WIN STREAK.
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by Chemmy on Feb 21, 2012 11:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
so it should be ready for listening in what? 2 months?
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
So much for #thingsthatwillhappenbeforethenextPPPPodcast
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I'm a Twitter twat.
CanadianMaple09 is an effective Facebook stalker.
So...
That Steve Dangle fellow just tweeted something about Macarthur being a shark now but I don’t see any corroborating info out there… Guessing it is untrue.
Let the Wookie win.
Twitter is a thing!
by Kenjamin on Feb 21, 2012 11:10 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Are you sure it wasn’t a practical joke? He’s a prankster that one.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
hmm…he has a neck, so odds are he’s more of a sheep.
Dammit Gomez.
by elseldo on Feb 21, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
He is being a shit disturber
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Not really a big fan of that.
There’s enough “fakes” out there that I don’t really feel like filtering out ones who are just being assholes to get followers and ones who are doing it ironically for a laugh.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
He is definitely doing the latter. He is basically stealing DGB’s Lupul joke.
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what? no, Dangle may have a bit of a silly hook with his vids, but he is a legit fan and knows his stuff pretty well
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
His more “PG material” allows him to be more widely accepted by the actual Leafs organization as well.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
Steve Dangle is an idiot.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
by SkinnyFish on Feb 21, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
A huge one
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Presented without comment
mirtle
Grabovski is carrying around a Ponikarovsky jersey in a shopping bag. He didn’t seem to know where it came from.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 11:19 AM EST reply actions 10 recs
Best
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by Chemmy on Feb 21, 2012 11:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
#grabbobeinggrabbo
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Good lord his shenanigans are absolutely phenomenal.
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Poni is in town tonight, maybe grabbos got some vodoo magic up his sleve to ensure Poni doesnt get the almsot guaranteed game winner tonight
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by Matt_Roberts on Feb 21, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
CODE PONI. CODE PONI
OR MAYBE PONI IS COMING BACK!!! PANIC!!!
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The tweet doesn't specify which team the jersey is for.
Carolina? New Jersey? TORONTO?
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
MY GOD THATS PONIKAROVSKY’S MUSIC! HES RE-JOINED THE TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS!
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by Matt_Roberts on Feb 21, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
File this under “Reasons I can’t wait for 24/7” and “Reasons to Re-sign Grabbo”
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
I think I get jersey for Poni because Poni no likes pineapples. Pineapples are stinky bad, and he agrees. After game, we both agreed to slash pineapples with sticks.
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Then go to bourger king and drink sosa sola
by Holidays in the Sundin on Feb 21, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Burkie left it on his bed instead of a horse’s head.
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by GreatKingRat on Feb 21, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Henny
Armstrong, rosehill and komisarek are getting skated hard and late. Tonite’s healthy scratches. Joey crabb is set to return.#leafs
Army sat again
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JOEY CRABB! FUCK YEAH! DIFFERENCE MAKER!
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
At least he won’t have to play with Kessel.
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Send down Jay fuckin Rosehill, call up Frattin.
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they won’t because they want him getting top 6 ice time
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After I hit send I realized it was a bad idea.
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top 6 AHL time right now.
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what?
are you high?
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
No, Frattin is probably more a 3rd liner. I mean, if we’re lucky maybe he becomes a 2nd liner but i don’t see it as likely. It’s his upside, i guess.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
he is already a 3rd liner, if he improves at all he is a 2nd liner
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
sure, which is why my statement that he probably isn’t a 2nd line guy isn’t that far fetched. It’s his upside, I just don’t see it. However, his next recall will tell us a lot more…..
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
frattin could easily become a 2nd line guy, and i agree with jfl
by power-forward on Feb 21, 2012 12:13 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Is he really already a 3rd liner? Not a very good one. We love him around here because he played a pretty physical game, but he really didn’t produce much.
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 1:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
third liners are supposed to produce?
you do remember the absolute shite luck he had with posts and terrible line mates not able to finish his passes for his first 15 or so games, also combined with the fact that he is a rookie
he is clearly a 3rd liner, easy
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
he also was on a ~30 point pace. As a rookie. So that says 3rd liner to me.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
at least. Obviously his upside is 2nd liner. And if he figures out how to score at the NHL level, watch out.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
If that were true I may agree. But he wasn't
He had a 10G and 20 point pace.
As well the statement is what he is today, not what he could be so the fact that he is a rookie shouldn’t matter.
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 2:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Frattin 37GP 5G 5A 10Pts
On pace for
Frattin 82GP 11G 11A 22Pts
He’ll be 25 next year.
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If he works hard, he could become the next overpaid Colby Armstrong.
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No, he’ll be cheaper because he’s homegrown. He’s why it is important to have guys develop for other roles beyond “SUPERSTAR”
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by PPP on Feb 21, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He & Jerry D’Amigo seem like pretty similar players. D’Amigo is 4 years younger.
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by not norm ullman on Feb 21, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Jesus, get serious. Frattin has 12 goals in 21 AHL games.
D’Amigo has 12 goals too. In 54 AHL games.
Frattin’s the best goal-scorer in the system. But “only” 5 goals in 37 games, as a rookie, with bad luck and poor linemates, and people think he’s a waste? And yet they babble on about D’Amigo (12), Mueller (13 in 51), Colborne (16 in 43) and Kardi (9)?
Ridiculous.
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by not norm ullman on Feb 21, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
For the record I think a lot of us are cooling down on Kadri and Colborne. That they’re not ppg in the AHL is a bit of a worry.
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Meh, it is and it isn’t. Not every good player in the NHL was PPG in the AHL. I think neither will be a superstar, obviously, but they could both be good players. I’m a bit bigger on Kadri because I think he’s proven he can improve each time he’s brought up.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
I’m a bit bigger on Kadri because I think he’s proven he can improve each time he’s brought up.
Have Frattin and Colborne been given that same opportunity?
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Look at anyone who became a 50+pt player after spending time in the AHL. They all tore it up down there.
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the sudden dip for both of them is really weird, I mean I dont think anyone expected Colborne to continue the insane pace he was on at the start of the season, but suddenly their two highest scoring (non career AHL) talents dry up at the same time? odd
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
maybe they have been working on other aspects of their game. There’s more to a player than just scoring. AHL Playoffs will be an important test too.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Are you saying all the Red Wings prospects are never going to reach 50 pts in the AHL?
But they have the best prospect pool in the NHL…..
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Only Nyqvist has achieved that this year… 47 pts in 46 games.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Ryan Kesler didn’t
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Pominville and Roy also played near PPG when they were in their early 20s in the AHL.
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 3:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Zach Parise
scored 18 goals, 58 points in 73 games for the Albany River Rats.
/Bust
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=71418
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Who wants the schmuk with less than PPG in the AHL?! Seriously, why isn’t Zigomanis up here. He’s basically PPG, obviously he would be a 50+ point player here.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Jiri Tlusty
almost PPG AHL player.
I guess my point is that AHL production isn’t the be-all-end-all of NHL success.
There are examples of one predicting NHL success and counterexamples using the same stats.
I’m not as worried as some are about Kadri and Colborne. Are they going to be Corey Perry and Ryan Getzlaf? Definitely not. Are they going to be legit productive NHLers? I’d put money on yes.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Bingo. Kadri’s not going to be a 90 point guy, but 7th overall picks rarely are. I think he can be a 50-60 point guy, which is borderline 1st line talent.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 21, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Colborne a bit harder to defend his production, but even if you take out his Boston games he’s sitting at 0.82.
Either way I think it’s too early to give up hope on them being productive guys.
That being said, if Burke can acquire legit 1st line talent (Carter) in the next year or so, it is probably going to be through trade or UFA not development
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
no one is giving up hope. but like chemmy said, is that hope cooling off a bit? sure.
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I find it hard to believe they’ll either be 1st liners.
Guess that “hope cooling off” relates more to what expectations are of them
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Kadri was always more likely to be another Matt Stajan than Mats Sundin.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 21, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Ahhh so you mean Kadri is going to be traded in a package for a top 2 defender like Suter
by jeffgm on Feb 21, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Zach Parise was only 20 and played in the AHL when there was a significant increase in talent due to the NHL lockout.
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Yes yes you can give context to most examples because the best players dont even go to the AHL. But I don’t think this is an accurate broad sweeping statement:
That they’re not ppg in the AHL is a bit of a worry.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Parise was two years younger than Colborne during his AHL season. That’s a big difference.
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why did we ever trade that gem of a player away?
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Last example
Mike Ribeiro
who a lot of people compare to Kadri, played 109 AHL games, 0.9 AHL pts/game
Kadri 41 points in 44 games (0.93)
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Thats weird... H-R only had last years Kadri AHL stats
It’s actually 66 points in 75 AHL games… 0.88/game
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
Looks like he went to Uni and dropped out mid-first year
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Or after 1st year. Or something.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Either way it didn’t impact the CHL/AHL agreement so he could play at 19 I think.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
and then he played the lockout year in the AHL
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did he not qualify for the CHL still?
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
sure. but he didn’t have to go unless they wanted him to.
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Jerry D’Amigo did the same thing… as long as you weren’t signed with a CHL team when you are drafted you are exempt from the CHL-NHL transfer agreement.
Even players who were drafted out of the USNDTP but go to the CHL the next year don’t have to go back for their age 19 season. For instance Jeremy Morin played 2 years in USNDTP got drafted 2nd round, played one year in Kitchener and then went to the AHL as a 19 yr old. Others like Jack Campbell could’ve played in the AHL this year if the Stars wanted him to but they sent him to the CHL as they wouldn’t want to burn a year off his ELC
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Agreed on both, which is a pisser. Colborne’s having to learn new stuff, and grow into his size, and that sometimes takes your eye off what made you good to begin with. Takes time for it to settle in.
Or…. it may never gel.
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by not norm ullman on Feb 21, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
For me with Kadri
I just think he is on a bit of a slump. He was basically PPG last year and this year before the call up. He has gone down and had 3 points in 9 GP or something. If he turns it back on he’ll be back up there.
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 3:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
must suck being sent down because you aren’t waiver eligible, though you’re probably better than other players on the team.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
So what you’re saying is you’d be okay packaging Kadri, Colborne and Frattin for a top line forward…
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What do you mean by top line forward?
I think Kadri and Colborne could have 50pt peak seasons, so I wouldn’t trade them both for a 50pt guy.
If by first line you mean “Elite difference maker” ie. Carter, Suter, etc. then absolutely.
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Yes that’s what I meant..
People didn’t seem willing to do
Schenn, Kadri, Colborne+1st for Nash but why the heck not if you don’t think those 2 players top 50 points annually
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I would absolutely not do that, but all the arguments have already been said.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Four first round picks for a guy who plays a one way game, is likely past his peak, and takes up $7.8 million in cap room? No way. I would trade ONE of Kadri/Colborne/1st in a deal for Nash. Though I’d rather acquire Carter.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 21, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I’m not interested in Nash given his cap hit, age, and production.
That doesn’t mean that if someone valuable came up I wouldn’t move our prospects.
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I’d toss a smaller combination of any of the above for Carter.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t move all our good prospects. I’m tired of this team not developing any of its own players.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 21, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
For a guy who many had written off last season when he was loaned to Kitchener, D’Amigo has had a good bounce back season. He played only one season in the NCAA, where his numbers were pretty solid. He just turned 21 on Sunday.
Another kid who was a solid player in the NCAA, Bobby Butler, joined the Sens after 4 years in the NCAA. Spend half of last season in the AHL with Binghamton, scoring 22 goals in 47 games.
Butler has 16 goals in 82 games with the Sens since being given an NHL job.
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I’ve heard a lot of D’Amigo praise from the AHL coaching staff in interviews and what not. They say his all around game has gotten so much better, they can use him in a variety of situations, etc.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Like Frattin, Butler was an older kid who dominated the NCAA in his final year. Like Frattin, he’s 25 and was considered a top scorer in both college and the AHL. It hasn’t translated to the NHL for Butler. It might not for Frattin.
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It might not, but he was pretty good for a rookie early on. I think next time he gets a call-up, or, more likely, next training camp, he could very much impress again. He took that roster spot from Kadri, no small accomplishment (helped by Kadri getting injured, but the spot was pretty clearly already Frattin’s by then)
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
It may not be such a huge accomplishment if Kadri doesn’t turn out to be a good NHLer
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For sure he is a decent prospect and looks like a legitimate NHLer. But people around here are just so overly-high on him.
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 2:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
For starters, he’s been scoring at a better pace than anyone in the AHL. Anyone.
He also scored more goals in his last NCAA year than anyone. Anyone.
He can score. He got 5, and had really rally bad puck luck. Shit, if he’d had 2 or 3 more ding in than out, we’d all be looking at a rookie on track for 15-20 in year one, while playing with shitty line-mates and running a plus.
Anyway. No sense debating it really. Either he will or he won’t I guess.
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by not norm ullman on Feb 21, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
I agree except one thing
He played with Grabbo and Kulemin, albeit when Grabbo was not playing well. Still he didnt have shitty linemates
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You complain about his sample sze in the NHL then try to use his AHL pace (with a smaller sample size)?
He did not have shitty linemates… Look he definitely has potential, but we have to remember that unlike most prospects he didn’t get to the pros until 24. He is older and doesn’t have as much time to develop.
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 3:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don’t like the age argument that he’s 24 and somehow hold that against him. It’s part of the reason he made the team out of camp – he had grown into his body and could compete physically with NHLers, that’s absolutely huge for a rookie. So he turns 25 next year? He’s got plenty of years of hockey in him.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
I think you misunderstand my point. He definitely has many years of hockey left in. What I am trying to say is that it is less likely that he significantly improves from what he is today than a younger play (note I am not saying it is impossible, just less likely).
At 24, almost 25, he should be peaking. There will of course always be players who find their stride late (Grabbo for one), so lets hope he is one of those. But the facts remain, that it less likely that he would improve as much as a younger prospect (like Kadri).
For the record I do think he is a legitimate NHLer and will likely be a solid 3rd liner in the long run. I just don’t think he is as special as a lot seem to think.
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 3:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I’m just not sure I agree with the peaking argument because its applied generally to all players regardless of their situations. I just don’t view a college player the same as a CHL guy, especially given the vast differences in the amount of games player, quality of competition and coaching staff, etc.
I think he can still improve over the next season or two at the very least. He’s not “special” except in the sense that:
A) We drafted him and now get to have him on relatively cheap contracts for a while (no more 3M 3rd liners, looking at you Army)
B) Having players like him filling in roster spots frees up cap space to bring in better top 6 guys. Or better yet he becomes a top 6 guy although I doubt that.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
I think we agree and are just saying it differently.
First off I agree with both points A and B.
In regards to the first part. I am simply trying to say that a younger prospect/player is more likely to improve than an older one. Is it a be-all-end-all? No. But it is a pretty simple concept that I think you’ll agree with.
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 3:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
how about that 37 NHL games is far too small a sample size to predict anything from
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
BLASPHEMY
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They should be able to produce somewhat. What exactly should third liners produce? Physical play? His hits/GP was not much higher than Army’s or Kadri’s. He didn’t play particularly tough minutes so he wasn’t playing a shutdown third line.
He looked to me like a rookie who could be a third liner. Shit luck or not, he didn’t produce like a third liner.
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 2:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
how much do third liners produce on average? 30 points?
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds about right. Can’t check now.
IIRC my post last summer, third line wingers get 27ish points. But that doesn’t take into account injuries. Pace was probably mid 30s.
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 2:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
so he’s a 3rd line winger as a rookie, huzzah,
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Just checked hockey reference
73-77th in PPG was 0.31-0.35
73-77th in GPG was 0.14-0.15
Frattin was 0.14 and 0.28. So he comes in as a poor 3rd liner. A tad better than I thought, but still not good enough. I would call him (at least offensively) a borderline 3rd liner at this point.
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 2:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So. You’d ignore his NCAA and AHL records. You’d ignore that he ran a plus, while most of the others on the 3rd and 4th lines run minuses. You’d ignore the puck luck. You’d ignore the lack of PP time.
Doing this PPG and GPG thing with a rookie, who hits posts, in less than half a season, and then deciding his “upside,” is just plain nuts. Try this. Know how many goals he’d have needed to have scored to make the Top 60 Wingers (i.e. to become a Top 6 player?)
7.
He’d have needed two more to go in.
Luck, experience, linemates, whatever… and you can’t see the possibility of two more? Wow.
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by not norm ullman on Feb 21, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
I remember he hit like 4 posts in the span of a few games.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
I specifically never discussed upside
I was talking about what he is today. That is why I said “at this point”.
Jared said he already is a 3rd liner and I looked at his NHL play and found that he is at this point a borderline 3rd liner.
His upside and potential is another question.
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 3:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
borderline 3rd liner is still a 3rd liner
not to mention his production had increased steadily since the start of the season
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
I will fully admit that I was mistaken and he does qualify as a 3rd liner by offensive production. Not a good one, but one nonetheless.
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 3:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
you should check his numbers again
after you take out the first 13 games
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Bravo kind sir
That was well done.
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 3:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
quote
He looked to me like a rookie who could be a third liner. Shit luck or not, he didn’t produce like a third liner.
“Could be” sounds to me like you’re talking potential.
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by not norm ullman on Feb 21, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Yes at one point in the post I discussed what he could be.
The main point of the post and the second sentence you quoted was his production this year.
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 3:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You didn’t look at his NHL play. You looked at some numbers.
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by GreatKingRat on Feb 21, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
In regards to hsi NHL play he has looked good at times. Hard on the forecheck, solid passing, and playing a decent amount. However, in case we forget: this is a goalscoring competition.
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Also his NCAA stats aren't that impressive
He was meh until his senior year when he was much older than everyone.
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 3:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I actually agree with him. I think Frattin is way overrated around here. I can see his career being pretty similar to Geoffrion.
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 1:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I’m really starting to feel for the guy. He must be having some nagging injuries or maybe being out so long has caused him to be way out of shape.
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by Chemmy on Feb 21, 2012 11:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
maybe being out so long has caused him to be way out of shape.
So then he needs to inform the coaching staff of this and ask for a conditioning stint, or have asked to remain on IR while he gets back in game shape. (Note: I don’t think this is the case at all.)
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I don’t have a clue what it is, just speculating. Has not played well since coming back. He had a good preseason and start to the season. Not sure what it is.
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no maybe about it, he sucks, but he doesn’t suck as bad as he has been playing this season
well at least probably not…..maybe
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
it’s a big maybe
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
He doesn’t play on the PK: 26s a game
He doesn’t play on the PP: 9s a game
He doesn’t hit: 22 hits in 16 games
He doesn’t block shots: 3 in 16 games
He doesn’t do anything.
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very big maybe
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
but he chirps the other team really well!
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 21, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
I want a guy with grit!
Signs Colby Armstrong who spends more time on IR than the active roster and sucks while he’s there.
I want a guy with size….Lookout.
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well he already got Steckel, Franson, Colborne and Aulie
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Penner technically has size.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
he’s as tall as at least 130 pancakes stacked on top of one another
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
shutupshutupshutupshutuuuup!
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
No because they both suck
But I had Penner on my fantasy team this year, hoping for 50 points and like 150 hits. Dude has like 5 goals, fuck him, dropped him a couple days ago
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by Chris Stoikoff on Feb 21, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Lombardi would go the way of Darryl Sutter with a move like that.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Burke’s successes vs. failures
Gustavsson, Komisarek, Armstrong, Giguere, Lebda, Connolly, Orr
vs.
MacArthur, Kessel, Lupul, Gardiner, Bozak, Phaneuf
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by TheBurnward on Feb 21, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Oh God did you call Connolly a failure signing???
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
wouldnt call it a failure, but i also wouldnt call it a win
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
It’s a solid push. Though that caphit could be troublesome next year.
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Marlies bound! no NMC!
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
said it before and Ill say it again, if Burkie need capspace, Burkie get capspace
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
He also got the BB special where next season his salary is smaller than his cap hit. More cap floor bait
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Connolly and Lombardi are both “moveable” contracts. They won’t really bring back value but I don’t think they’d be as hard to move as Komisarek.
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 1:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yeah, we’re lucky it was on 2 years though. I couldn’t deal with the invisible man for too much longer.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
so, it looks like a Burke move has roughly a 50% chance of working out as planned.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
I like Liles extension, sort of.
The timing (while out with a concussion)? Not so much.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
You like the extension of a pillow soft 31 year old defenceman?
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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and people thought I was crazy for hating this deal
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
I was right there with you homey. I hated his extension.
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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I thought it was very bad timing. The Leafs PP hasn’t exactly been stellar since he returned either
RE-SIGN GRABBO
by Chris Stoikoff on Feb 21, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
I’m ok with the deal if he’s a 3rd pairing PP specialist who is incredibly sheltered and is playing with an incredible d-man defensively.
But it don’t look like that’s happening anytime soon… so I agree with you
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
I’m ok with the deal if he’s a 3rd pairing PP specialist who is incredibly sheltered and is playing with an incredible d-man defensively.
For almost $4M??
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Oh right. His contract…. uh no.
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
/eyeroll
I like a 0.5 point-per-game PP quarterback, yes
And yes I realize he hasn’t been the same since the concussion.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
if the extension had come before the concussion, I could see it, but after? before it was seen if he could swing back to form?
no, you gotta hold off on that
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
I completely agree
The timing was fucking awful for a contract extension. It also seems kind of strange given the complexity of the Leafs current defense. I thought for sure he’d be gone at the end of the season.
But I like the player. A lot. And I don’t think he’ll be useless for the next however many years.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
The players who come back to their norm after concussions are far outnumbered by those who come back as lesser players.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
right, but its still quite a risk for someone over 30, dont see why the extension could not have waited a couple months
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
He was agreeing with us
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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mmmhmmm
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Still seems very weird timing. They must have agreed to it before the actual concussion, and then once he started to get healthy again they signed it.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Which would be fine
If he broke his arm. Concussions change players though.
RE-SIGN GRABBO
by Chris Stoikoff on Feb 21, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Could have lied to him and said the concussion has fucked up his memory; no deal was ever made. Then you concuss his agent.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
Oh, I like this guy.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 21, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
So which Leafs have been concussed this year? And with what sort of lingering effects?
1. Reimer.
2. Liles.
3. Armstrong.
Plus, obviously, Orr.
And not sure about Lombardi and Connolly…..
Not pretty.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 21, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Orr is still fighting in the AHL. Had a scrap in a game on the weekend.
Man, that guy’s head is going to be much by the time he retires.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
I was trying for mush, but that might work
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
So you would want Dennis Wideman?
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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TBH I dont know enough about Wideman beyond his H-R page.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Enough of the old and busted, I want me some new hotness
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 21, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
I like Liles. Not crazy about length of contract.
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
I’m not ready to lump it in with “Burke’s UFA disasters” yet.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Beauchemin and Versteeg were both successes, though the bad return on the Versteeg trade negates that a bit. I think Gus was a worthwhile risk, and it’s not Burke’s fault Giguere wouldn’t get the surgery he needed. I think the jury’s still out on Connolly.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 21, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
we don’t really know much about our return on the Versteeg deal. Maybe Biggs or Percy (cant remember which pick was which because there was a trade to move up) becomes a solid player….
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
It’s more about why we traded a 20G, 50pt player on the 3rd line away in the first place.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
still think there is more to that, Burke doesn’t just trade away useless players without a reason
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
er….useful players
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Bad in the room
apparently is more important than
Good on the ice
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Extend Armdog!!
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 21, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Also versteeg was acquired for (stalberg, didmenico and paradis).
Paradis was acquired for Tlusty.
The first versteeg trade is a win or breakeven.
Asset managementwise maybe (we won’t know for years)
We definitely gave up the best player in the deal though. Versteeg broke out huge this year
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
But could he of done that on the Leafs?
He broke out by being the #1 forward for a team. He was never going to be that. He didn’t mesh with Kessel, and didn’t fit on the MGK line either. That left him on the 3rd line.
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
by WizardofNaz on Feb 21, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
But could he of done that on the Leafs?
I absolutely think yes.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
You think he’d put up the same amount of points while playing significantly less minutes with less skilled players and less PP time while stuck on the leafs 3rd line?
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
by WizardofNaz on Feb 21, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
I think he was (and could have continued to be) a 15-20 goal guy on the 3rd line.
Oh God let’s get rid of that contract, stat! We need more Armstrongs with his cap space.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think it was the contract… it was the combo of him not fitting in the top 6 and him not wanting to be here if he was stuck on the 3rd line.
I still think he asked for a trade
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
by WizardofNaz on Feb 21, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
When you have a 20G scorer, “fit” is the least of my concerns. What about Kulemin/MacArthur? They’ve both spent plenty of time on what could be considered the “3rd” line this year.
BB didn’t give up on them after 2/3rds of a season.
I still think he asked for a trade
It’s possible. It just doesn’t seem reasonable to trade an asset like that at his age, price, contract status & production. It could easily have been a non-ice related issue.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Versteeg would certainly be better then Crabb or Lombardi on the third. But he is yet another small winger on the leafs – dealing him for that reason might make sense but having lombardi replace him negates the move
It wasn’t a question of if Versteeg is better than Crabb… it was would Versteeg put up 48pts in 56 games on the Leafs 3rd line. And the answer would have to be no imo.
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
by WizardofNaz on Feb 21, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
He put up 35 pts in 53 GP here last year in, as you described it, 3rd line minutes. That would put him 4th this year. Behind Kessel/Lupul/Grabbo. Just behind Bozak and basically tied with MacA.
His 14G in 53 GP last year would have put him 5th on the team.
So in otherwords he would have been the 4th-5th best forward this year if he just replicated last year… At basically 3 million and a young player that is something I want.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 2:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I never doubted he would put up 50+ points on the 3rd line but to say he’d match the 70pt pace he’s on now is crazy
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
It was poor asset management giving him up. 50 points on the third line is huge.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 2:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Stalberg and Tlusty are looking like very good third liners and passable top 6 forwards. The Hawks did ok trading away Versteeg and the leafs are waiting on Percy and Biggs
Stalberg
Plays with top Blackhawks. Gets 8 goals against NHL competition this year.
Plus 8 goals against Columbus.
Passsssssss.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 21, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
and Tlusty has only turned into a player this season by playing on the top line in Carolina with Staal. Also wasn’t going to happen here.
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 21, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Gustavsson, the UFA European was a failure? I guess sticking with him this season was.
And Giggy, the guy who got rid of Toskala and Blake and gave us 0.906? Those were not failures.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
I bet hes fuckin hilarious in the room
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by Matt_Roberts on Feb 21, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah though how many of those have been on the 4th line. Also what is the longest stretch he has played in a row. You guys maybe right about him sucking but he was a useful player last season.
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“Hey, we want to reactivate you and dress you in an NHL game”
“No thanks, I’m a little pudgy in the middle I think I need a few games in the AHL first”
/incredulous
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Feb 21, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
“Hey, we want you to play goal.”
“No thanks, my groins in wonky and I should probably get surgery to fix it rather than sabotage the team’s season.”
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
“Hey, we want you to waive your no-trade clause”
“No, I think I’ll stick with the team til my contract runs out then walk to Vancouver”
Ok I don’t really mean that. Mats <3
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by T is for Truculence on Feb 21, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
we’re saved! Joey Crabb will shuffle onto the ice with gusto now!
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
Somebody hit the town a little too hard post road trip.
"You said you didn't give a f#%k about hockey. And I never saw someone say that before..."
"Storm coming? Hatchet coming!"
by TheBurnward on Feb 21, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
better than 8 million on the ice getting scored on repeatedly, amiright?
wait that’s not funny either….
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
This is why Burke needs to focus on trading. His UFA track record isn’t great.
That's "Da-ooo". Like the drink.
most GM’s have a pretty bad UFA track record
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
some worse than others….heelllloooo CBJ and BUF
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve previously advocated locking Regier in a log cabin with no cell access on July 1.
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
Best have someone on watch for carrier pigeons too
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by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 21, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
You’re banned from #TeamParise2012
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
I really need the Leafs to just do their moves already. I’m spending half my time at work checking twitter and this site.
When losing an argument on the internet, be sure to attack someones grammar. That is the only way to save face.
Im taking off the 27th on the assumption that’s when everything will happen.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
My reading week is that week, luckily. I’ll get to watch ALL 10 HOURS OF IT, THE EXCITING JAW DROPPING “ANALYSTS” TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THE TRADES THAT PROBABLY WON’T HAPPEN, OH YEAH SO EXCITING
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CanadianMaple09 is an effective Facebook stalker.
mostly I’ll sit around and drink beer and hope we either do something that seems really good or not much at all.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think the Leafs are going to make a major move. The only player who’s available who it makes much sense for the Leafs to acquire is Jeff Carter, and it doesn’t sound like Burke is interested in trading for him. I think the most we’re likely to see is a couple of moves to offload some salary or maybe pick up a couple of draft picks.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Feb 21, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
I’d say us standing pat is more likely than not, but I just can’t rule anything out.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
bq.The only player who’s available being talked about in the media who it makes much sense for the Leafs to acquire is Jeff Carter…
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
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You think the Jackets want to keep Carter?
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by Draglikepull on Feb 21, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
In an ideal world they probably would. But he’s made it pretty clear he doesn’t want to be there.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
No, I’m saying that the public perception of who’s available is probably pretty out of whack with who’s actually available.
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
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Also, if you’ve looked at the statline from the 5-0 washington blowout, the statline underrepresents exactly how horrible the caps played.
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
As bad as the leafs have been in their last 10 – the caps have been one loss worse.
With the collapse of Tampa, Habs, Canes, Sabres and now Caps – the leafs can’t ask for much easier scenario to enter the playoffs.
Leafs have to
just. fucking. win.
RE-SIGN GRABBO
by Chris Stoikoff on Feb 21, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Its pretty obvious that only 6 teams actually want to make the playoffs in the east.
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
Leafs wanted to make it for most of the season but in Ferbruary are approach has been a bit more “fuck it, who needs defense?”
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
February is the new November
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 21, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
And Ferbruary is the new Jerbrerary.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 21, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
In an unprecedented move 9 teams in the Eastern Conference have decided to officially “pass” on the playoffs, forcing the league to give the 2 remaining playoff spots to Western Conference teams
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
I'll take the first half of that
Mike Weber stopped sucking anyway.
OPERATION TANK IS A GO.
In an unprecedented move 9 teams in the Eastern Conference have decided to officially "pass" on the playoffs
Canes have been pretty damn good lately
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Feb 21, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
What really did happen in the picture there? Was that taken at this weekend’s game?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 21, 2012 12:14 PM EST reply actions
Looks like the Leaf fan kept asking the Canucks fan “hey you guys won the cup last year, right?” until his head exploded
RE-SIGN GRABBO
by Chris Stoikoff on Feb 21, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
So we’re assuming he’s a Nucks fan, or is there some kind of actual story behind this picture that confirms it?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 21, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Wow
#RedWings G Ty Conklin has cleared waivers.
Kinda surprised CBJ didnt take a chance
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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And potentially get GBRZRKR’d and ruin that Yakupov pick?
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
I thought I was in on most of the jokes but this one is still over my head. is “GBRZRKR” an acronym for something? I has a confused here
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
Martin Gerber flipped his shit one night and because “GERBER” is similar to “BERZERKER”, beloved character in popular film “Clerks”, he gained said nickname. Later someone truncated it to GBRZRKR
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My love for you is like a truck
BERZERKER
Would you like some making fuck
BERZERKER
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by Chemmy on Feb 21, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
its not an internet joke
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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I know its from Clerks, but oft-quoted in the days of old on the internet
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2009/3/25/810105/nnn-leafs-winning-in-march
With a helpful side of “Grampa it hurt my privates”.
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Why? They’re going to draft #1 overall. Don’t want to fuck that up.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
indeed, lots of shitty goalies available in the off season
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
It wouldn’t matter, Lebda is like cruise control for failure.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 21, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
20 mins a night, ell oh ell
Waiting eagerly for that contract extension.
The Rick Nash “get me the fuck out of here” news came very close to Lebda signing with the Blue Jackets. Coincidence? You decide.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
how in the fuck does Brett Lebda average over 20 mins a game? no really how? I know the Blue Jackets are horrid and all but…wow
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty sure he’s top pairing with Tyutin.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm
Seems Tyutin splits ES time with Lebda and Aaron Johnson
But they’re definitely to pairing on the Powerplay. Again, Ell oh Ell
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
SENSE IS NOT BEING MADE
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
He’s doing his best Larry Murphy imitation
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 21, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Booooooooooooooooo!
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 21, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
* fires guns in the air *
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well you live in Cali now, its probably easier for you to get a gun
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Just think, if we trade for Tyutin… we can say “Darn Tyutin” every time he’s on ice for a goal against
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
his contract is horrible, just horrible
but the puns make it almost worth it
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i want Fedor on the leafs just so I can say this all the time
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Feb 21, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
They beat the Wings w/ Conklin in net back in october… maybe they though “holy shit if we can beat the Wings when they play this guy… why the hell would we want him?”
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
Why would CLB have taken a chance? Conklin has been worse than Steve Mason.
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Oh Armdog
Colby Armstrong on the continuing uncertainty of his spot in the lineup: “I have nothing to say … for a change.”
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Oh Armdog
I want him to be good this year but he just… isn’t
RE-SIGN GRABBO
by Chris Stoikoff on Feb 21, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Fun with Corsi - Colby Armstrong edition
2008-09
Faced 2nd toughest comp among forwards (using CorsiRelComp)
40.3% Ozone start, 46.2% Ozone finish
CorsiOn of .77, CorsiRel of 10.7 (best of Atlanta forwards by a country mile)
22 Goals, 18 Assists
2009-10
Faced 2nd toughest comp among forwards
47.1% Ozone start, 51.3% Ozone finish
CorsiOn of -1.02, CorsiRel of .9 (which is actually middle of the pack for Thrashers forwards that year).
15G, 14A
2010-11
His numbers are lacklustre here. Weaker competition, middling results. He actually did hit just under .5 points per game as far as that goes (8G 15A in 50GP)
So I would say that Colby Armstrong was good at ice hockey. Those advanced stats paint him as a pretty damn good checker in 08/09, and a halfway decent checker in 09/10. And after that he is little more than a replacement level guy on a country that is 3-6 times more than it should be.
But he has never actually played the role in Toronto that I think Burke brought him in for (hasn’t really been asked, definitely hasn’t been able to). I should also point out that I think Burke has moved away from the ‘checking’ line strategy anyway (and maybe Armstrong’s performance is a part of that). Injuries are probably a big part of his decline, but one way or the other he definitely has been a failed signing.
There was even that article that identified him as a heavy lifter (i.e. exactly what you’re saying about his previous seasons).
by stevesmith19 on Feb 21, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Guy is just not right in the head
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 21, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
My fantasy team is unhappy
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Well there goes his chances at Hart trophy underdog.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Feb 21, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
His peers love him
They just voted him as basically the best player in that poll that found Vancouver the most overrated team. He was also Chara’s first pick in the all star game.
Obviously these aren’t great measures, but I always found that he didn’t get mentioned along with Ovi, Crosby, Stamkos, etc enough. Glad to see the players see him up there.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 1:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I heard Joey Mac on TSN 1050 yesterday talking about the guy. His peers are obviously impressed.
He doesn’t get meantioned along those guys because his point totals arents as exaggerated, but you only have to watch him to realize what magic he can do.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
I understand why he doesn’t get mentioned because of his slightly lower point numbers, but he is just so talented.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 1:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He also plays just about the toughest minutes on the Red Wings. He could probably lead the league in scoring if he got sheltered the way the Sedins do.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 21, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
I always wonder how much its worth. The guy who didn’t rate Tavares in the top 25 under 25 (Greenberg?) suggested that Tavares’ zone starts alone could be worth 10 points/year…
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 1:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This article is coming in handy all over the place today:
http://drivingplay.blogspot.com/2011/09/on-zone-starts.html
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Feb 21, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
via Dimitry Chesnokov
#Caps prospect Kuznetsov openly said he’d stay in Russia if offered a…10 year deal there (ProSport).
Thats why people get scared of picking russian prospects
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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yup, but i think there’s a trend where teh serious russian players come over to the CHL for a year or two….at least it seems that way.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
there is an ever increasing “want to play in the best league” mentality with young Russians, so coming to North America is the best way to “fit in” and get used to the NHL style game
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
yup, and for all the money they can get in the KHL,, they can be superstars here. The KHL may be decently big in Russia but it hardly compares to the NHL.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
They also prefer planes that stay in the sky.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 21, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Been hearing Whitney jokes all week so I’m going with no.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 21, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Well in that case.
I would like to congratulate her on her 10th day of sobriety.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 21, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh man that’s so awful but also so hilarious
99% of player salaries are payed out to only 1% of players. #OccupyNHL
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"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 21, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Coming over to CHL increases your profile to NHL scouts and GMs.
Increasing your profile to scouts and GMS increases your chances of being drafted high
Increasing your chances of being drafted high increases your chances of getting paid
Increasing your chances of getting paid increases the likelihood some crazy-ass Russian team pays you for life
This isn’t new.
Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік
I’m guessing playing in the CHL is a darn sight better in terms of travel conditions, accomodations, crowds cheering you on, arena facilities, etc that playing in the junior loop in Russia as well.
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 21, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
It’s also not easy to leave your own country when you’re like 14 to a place where you don’t understand the language, culture, etc.
It’s probably the right career move but it’s not the easiest transition.
Imagine being 14 and Russia had the best junior league in the world to be a part of – can you imagine picking up everything and going there to live with a billet family? Tough.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Junior major sports always sketch me out a bit because of things like this.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 1:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
but, nicely turned out buses. Compared to what I assume are crap-on-wheels in Russia … and the bus rides or flights might actually be longer over there than here (not that I really know what their travel schedule is like, but it can’t be great).
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 21, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
their development sucks in Russia compared to here.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
I really hope they dont try to poach Kulie when he gets offered low money because of this years performance
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Kuli’s got two kids and a Canadian wife (i think she’s Canadian).. would you want to raise them somewhere in Russia or Toronto?
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pretty sure his wife is Russian as well. Though I think she teaches english from what I remember hearing when he first came over. Which is kind of ironic that his english isn’t that great.
by Nigel Cadbury on Feb 21, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Hey honey, some team in moscow offered me 50 million over 6 years and a signing bonus of 10 million in cash, wanna see my homeland?
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Forgot the part where the mob extorts 75%
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 21, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
and when your team owner plants drugs on you and frames you to get out of a contract
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
That happened?
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Allegedly, so it only probably happened.
OPERATION TANK IS A GO.
In an unprecedented move 9 teams in the Eastern Conference have decided to officially "pass" on the playoffs
That seems like something too ridiculous to make up. It’s from the Star’s article on the KHL.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
There was an article recently about the “wild west of the KHL”. They told that story and also a story about a team that only knows the first name of its owner (I still don’t get how this is possible) and an owner who always enters the dressing room with a gun on him. Just messed up shit.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 1:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That would be baaaaad. Hopefully him and Grabbo stay and keep eachother happy
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 1:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yikes
That kid looks good too.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
I was wondering about this
What is the deal with Nabokov’s KHL contract. Is it just invalid now? Does he not get the money?
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 1:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was wondering about this
What is the deal with Nabokov’s KHL contract. Is it just invalid now? Does he not get the money?
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 1:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was wondering about this
What is the deal with Nabokov’s KHL contract. Is it just invalid now? Does he not get the money?
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
I was wondering about this
What is the deal with Nabokov’s KHL contract. Is it just invalid now? Does he not get the money?
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
I was wondering about this
What is the deal with Nabokov’s KHL contract. Is it just invalid now? Does he not get the money?
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 21, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Oops
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 1:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I like how no one answered your question but instead taunted your double post.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
if you don’t know the question, mock the answer.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
dont mock the know, just answer the question
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
if you mock the answer, question if you don’t know.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
the answer you don’t know know, question you must mock
/yoda’d
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha welcome to PPP!
Does anyone know the answer though?
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 2:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No idea. KHL is an enigma wrapped in a puzzle shrouded in myster or something like that.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks Skinny. I wonder if he was pressured into that. It was a tonne of money IIRC.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 2:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was wondering about this
What is the deal with Nabokov’s KHL contract. Is it just invalid now? Does he not get the money?
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They always ask “chicken or fish” … and they’re always out of one of them!
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 21, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
by the way we’re out of both
www.twitter.com/CameronSorley
by CameronSorley on Feb 21, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Ah yes, I remember. I had the tacos
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 21, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Off topic.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 21, 2012 1:23 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
Hahahahaha what on earth
99% of player salaries are payed out to only 1% of players. #OccupyNHL
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NINJA MONKEY FACE ATTACK
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 21, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Monkeys are the best.
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uggh I can’t seem to get the twitpic I just put up to load and show here… still here the link
Its a lion looking to eat a baby
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
there is a back story to this
This is at the cafe inside the Memphis Zoo. The manager of the cafe told this guy the alpha male monkey noticed him the second he walked in the door and started going crazy, because, as the alpha male, he feels threatened by other tall males. So she told him to go stand by the window and turn his back on the monkey to see what happened….
+1 is only good if you actually rec the post
by Bowling_Guy25 on Feb 21, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
I liked it more when I could assume it was a criminally insane monkey who is locked up in a high security monkey prison.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 21, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
reminds me of a time I was at the zoo and someone was standing on a post to see the gorillas better. Charles the alpha male sat right in front of him glaring. a keeper hurried over and told the guy to get away since he was making Charles angry.
Dammit Gomez.
by elseldo on Feb 21, 2012 3:50 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
she continued “….and you know what happens when Charles gets angry.”
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
PPP MLB
ONE spot left folks. Surely someone likes fantasy baseball, especially a league where everyone is active…
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
I’ve been looking for a baseball fan, let me know when you find one.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
We had to play fantasy baseball in teams in grade 4 math… once it was made into math I immediately hated it.
Flugenweb, space code, twit zone, ass mode, check ze tweets.
I learned about probability in Grade 7 by playing craps. It was pretty fun
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Feb 21, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
we have a few leagues up at BBB
This one still has room open
http://www.bluebirdbanter.com/2012/2/15/2800086/another-fantasy-league-why-not#comments
+1 is only good if you actually rec the post
by Bowling_Guy25 on Feb 21, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Putting the FUN in Funeral
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 21, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Mirtle Stats
Gustavsson or Reimer?
For some additional food for thought on the Leafs goalies, here’s a quick comparison of their last 20 starts:
James Reimer: 7-8-3, 3.11 goals-against average and .900 save percentage
Jonas Gustavsson: 12-7-1, 2.44 goals-against average and .919 save percentage
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 21, 2012 2:06 PM EST reply actions
now look at ES vs PK numbers
Gustavsson has ridden the perfect PK pony
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
but what if you take away the first 13 games?
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Man, Reimer has just been shelled his last few starts.
Ugh I’m almost too tired to compare the two anymore. Go with whoever. Kessel line can just outscore what gets let in.
That sounds like a formula for long-term success, right?
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
RIGHT!?!?!?
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by PPP on Feb 21, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m not sure Ronnie knows how to deal with goalies. I mean, I get that Reimer hasn’t played great lately. But the win-and-you’re-in thing seems kinda strange. I mean, I think one of the things skaters have said in the past is that they feel like it’s OK to make a mistake and they won’t get benched for it. Meanwhile, a goalie plays one bad game and he gets stapled to the bench until the other guy fucks up. How does that instill confidence?
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 21, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
its the Edmonton strategy, i.e. get scored on a lot, but score way more goals than your opponent.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Philadelphia model: We can't lose if we score 7 goals a game!*
*Unless the other team scores 8
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh I’m almost too tired to compare the two anymore. Go with whoever.
It’s like debating which horribly painful way you’d like to die…“Well, I’m leaning towards being doused in gasoline and set on fire, but then again, dropping a toaster into the bath could also be fun.”
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
I call point blank shotgun blast to the chest
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
That’d make for a nasty mess. Think of the poor bastards that have to clean your corpse up. Show a little courtesy.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
at least I will be remembered
“hey, remember that guy who took the buck shot to the chest? holy hell! his heart and lungs were all over the place!”
“yeah! we had to steam clean that whole room like 4 times!”
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
I chose to die as I lived
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
firefighter, but in st. catharines it’s mostly medical & “hmm…haven’t seen this guy in a month and there’s an odor” calls.
Dammit Gomez.
ah stink knocks, those are fun
knew a couple guys who would take “burst bets”
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
Have to agree. One last dance.
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Until last week Reimer’s ES numbers were fine. They took a big dip after him getting shelled lately.
I think long term Reimer’s probably an NHL average-ish netminder, but the concussion and Gustavsson playing lights out might have made this a lost season for him.
Reimer’s certainly not making a great argument that he deserves the net right now.
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Almost every game I'm "rah rah play Reimer, he's the better goalie"
Then he lets in 4 goals and gets pulled and I shut up pretty quick.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
then we say maybe Gus can pull it off. Then he lets in 4 goals. Then we say “GBSR” and he lets in 4 goals….it’s some sort of purgatory.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
We’re like Philly North… wait scratch that…
Philly is like Toronto South… except way shittier
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
You won’t be excited when it actually starts and the Leafs get shelled yet again. Likely by Kovie who is a typical Russian Leaf killer. Followed by a brief stint in which it appears the Leafs might just get back into it. This will of course be followed by a couple goals scored on odd man rushes or break away caused by Liles or Phaneuf pinching or just a blatant give away. Enjoy the Game!
/GOLEAFSGO
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I dont even know where to begin
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Crying is a good start.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 21, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
You don’t have to just ranting.
When losing an argument on the internet, be sure to attack someones grammar. That is the only way to save face.
I can’t wait to hear the depressed state of all those taking part in the PPP Podcast
When losing an argument on the internet, be sure to attack someones grammar. That is the only way to save face.
Nothing brings Leaf fans together like suffering.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
I really need a win tonight for the Leafs. The class I’m in right now is making me want to stab myself and a Leafs loss on top of this would probably cause alcohol poisoning tonight.
Flugenweb, space code, twit zone, ass mode, check ze tweets.
Just thinking about it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 21, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Scratch that, that’s the whiskey.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 21, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
I know it’s only 4 p.m. But what do you expect me to drink?
Water? pfft.
I don’t drink water. Fish fuck in it.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 21, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Whisky has water in it. Therefore, whisky quenches your thirst.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
I have watched every game for 5 years. But the past couple games I actually found myself skipping the 3rd( I Never do this). It is harder to watch this team which has the ability and skill get their asses handed to them. It is all part of the growing process but man it is a painful one at times.
When losing an argument on the internet, be sure to attack someones grammar. That is the only way to save face.
Pretty much the same. Lately I’ve been less excited about watching games and more likely to get distracted and do something else during the latter parts of a game where we’re playing like ass.
Flugenweb, space code, twit zone, ass mode, check ze tweets.
Yup, I turned off both the Montreal and Vancouver games and I sat through all the bullshit in 2008-09 and 2009-10. We’re just so much better than our performance in those games, especially the Montreal one.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I have to admit… when the Leafs are down 5-0 in the 2nd period, I ask myself “Could I be doing something more productive” and usually end up playing BF3
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
PS3?
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xbox
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
hmmm BF3, havent played it in a long time. I should put it back in, I’ve been doing a bit too much NHL 12/ Skyrim.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
I’m kind of rotating the 3… depends on my mood
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
I just stopped after a few weeks of playing because it got a bit boring. the FPS games arent always my thing, though I do like the Battlefield multiplayer more. I’m not buying anymore MW games, its the same terrible game repackaged. BF3 single player was garbage too.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
I stopped the campaign an hour in, just awful
When losing an argument on the internet, be sure to attack someones grammar. That is the only way to save face.
it was just as stupid as black ops, but worse, it just plainly ripped it off.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
I played it through… but yeah it was horrible.
The multiplayer keeps me going since the huge maps result in a fairly different game each time
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
I got Skyrim in December and played it all through Xmas break. I haven’t touched it in over a month. It’s one of those things where I’m scared to play it because I know it will be all consuming. Only video game I’ve been playing is NHL12.
Flugenweb, space code, twit zone, ass mode, check ze tweets.
I also got Uncharted 3 for Xmas and haven’t played it yet, I get way too addicted to video games.
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The design in Uncharted 3 is frustrating at times, but when it’s at its best it’s an incredible game.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Feb 21, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Is it that different from 2? I haven’t touched it yet but I didn’t realize it was that different; 2 was amazing.
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wrooooong
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
I never had a Playstation system until I got my PS3 for free from Rogers last fall, I have always been an Xbox guy. Since playing through Uncharted I have recommended getting a PS3 for the sole basis of this series to a lot of friends.
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I got a PS3 from Christmas 2010 and still have not started uncharted 2. I feel bad since I’ve used it like 3 times since then.
Dammit Gomez.
by elseldo on Feb 21, 2012 4:18 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I use it as my primary bluray player now and my primary movie-renting platform since Blockbuster closed. I also got Skyrim for PS3 instead of Xbox due to the newness of my PS3 meaning it’s more reliable.
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I think 3 has better level design, but gameplay wise they’re basically identical. The plot in 3 also completely unravels about halfway through and stops making any sense whatsoever.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Feb 21, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
I only play NHL 12 a lot because I’m on a good club in the EASHL and we’re trying to do a good run at the elite championship. We’ll see how it goes.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
I just play it a lot because it’s fun to play with friends and most of my friends (including me) suck at stuff like COD.
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I’m a CS guy at heart. I grew up sitting in my dark room at a teenager playign CS for hours upon hours. FPS for Consoles just doesn’t do it for me. But for hockey, it works so much better than a computer.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
only 5?
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Feb 21, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Whaddya call a donkey's ass?
An ass’s ass?
An Asinus’s Anus?
Questions like that – keeping me awake at night.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 21, 2012 3:49 PM EST reply actions
Whaddya call a donkey’s ass?
Birky
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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hey steve downie just got traded to not Toronto
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
heyoooooooooo
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Downie to Colorado via McKenzie
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for a second is my guess
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Gotta be more than that
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
i think its giggy
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
That seems like a very dumb move on the Avs part, considering how well he has played.
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
I don’t know why they are buying….what are they gonna make the playoffs or something?
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Varlamov is the future!
Also I think Giguere is currently injured
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
guess which body part……….It’ll be a tough one!!!
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exactly, his value will never be higher
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Seems like a dumb move for TBL too considering they don’t need another old ass goalie…
also fuck I wanted him :(
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Giggy is younger than most people realize. 33 and one year older than Luongo IIRC
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 4:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
His groin acts like he’s 56 though
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yup. His groin problems and extreme decrease in quality at bout 31 made everyone think he is so old. His age when he had a decrease in quality more or less coincides with both Bryz and Luongo’s longterm deals.
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 4:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I just got offered Garon for Yandle in my fantasy league, Giguere (who I currently have) to Tampa would make that decision much easier.
well, that escalated quickly
How many times could you say hell no for Garon for Yandle?
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 4:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I suspect they are taking on salary so they can move other expensive players without going under the cap floor… but he doesn’t make much so who knows.
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You want salary huh and you just traded away a defenseman… I got just the guy for you!!
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Why, does Tampa really want a lottary pick?
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure they can move him, given Varly’s .900.
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hahaha best part is Varlamov actively hates Downie
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
Well, rumour mongers didn’t see that coming.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
they’re busy, busy people man………….what with all of the superstars they have to track. give them a break
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Maybe COL didn’t like the look of what Quincey was going to get with his RFA raise.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
Well, i guess it saves the avs 500k… but still i thought quincey was fairly decent… of course this is the same team that gifted shattenkirk and the good stewart to the blues.
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at least they got the good johnson back
the good johnson, that’s a great name for a band
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Chris “4th line” Stewart
WANT
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Jesus who the hell else do the Avs have? Stastny?
For a team with 4 1st lines they sure suck.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Stastny, Landeskog, Duchene, Hejduk.
Then there are a bunch of guys with names that sound like they need some serious time in a tanning salon. Ryan O’Riley and Ryan O’Byrne and Ryan Wilson and Erik Johnson and David Jones and Shane O’Brien and Kyle Quincey and Jay Mcclement and David Van Der Gulik and Matt Hunwik and Daniel Winnik.
O’reily will be a very good 2 way center and entered the league young.
With duchene and Statsny I hope they have too many centres and need to unload salary
Stastny to TOR makes too much sense for it to happen.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
IT'S BIGGER THAN THIS
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Said one NHL GM to me today, ```Colorado could be quite busy over the next week.’’ Trade 1 is down…
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Chris Stewart please
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Matt Deuchene please
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
uhhhhh
@TSNBobMcKenzie: Hearing TB has traded Kyle Quincey to DET. … for a first-round pick. Verifying.
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Quincey was drafted by the Wings in the 4th round… I’m going to laugh if Detroit traded a 1st round pick to get him back
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
First line NHLers with sub PPG in the AHL at 21 and/or22
Pominville (20, 21, and 22), Roy (20, 21), Weiss (21. Not very good with 61 pts in 90 GP), Plekanec (20-22), Pacioretty (20-22, obviously not yet proven), James Neal (20), etc.
Let me be clear this is a selective list. Most first liners either skip the AHL or demolish it (see Spezza, Perry, etc). But it is just to show that players can still turn into first liners even if they can’t demolish the AHL.
If you look at just top 6 players (use 20 goals or 50 points as a cutoff for more than 3 seasons) and I am sure you will find plenty of players.
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 4:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
In conclusion, each player has their own development path.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
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by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
For sure
But that doesn’t mean you discoun general trends. It just means you have to be aware of variation.
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by BCapp on Feb 21, 2012 4:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Let’s just say I’m 100x more interested in how they’re producing in the NHL than the AHL. (unfortunately in these cases, poorly)
I just don’t consider it as strong a predictor of success as some others.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Six guys. The list of “sub ppg in the AHL and never played anywhere after” is probably considerably larger.
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110% correct. I was just trying to show that there were examples. I tried to put an disclaimer in their that most great players did dominate.
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Via Mirtle:
- Apparently one of the Leafs asked rookie teammate Jake Gardiner if his bags were packed this morning. He seems to take more ribbing than anyone on the team.
Might have something to do with oversleeping that flight, with Bozie making fun of him. That was hilarious, but it’s good to hear these kinds of stories. Rooks always get some gentle mockery at the very least.
I think “pack your bags” is in reference to trade rumours.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 21, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
Like most kids who get light-heartedly picked on, it’s probably because he can take it.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
Also:
- Colby Armstrong and Mike Komisarek will sit out again, as GM Brian Burke’s very expensive free agent additions (a combined $7.5-million a season) have struggled mightily of late.
$7.5 million in the press box
Lombardi – Connolly – Crabb
$8M+ on the 3rd line.
Woooooooooooooooooo weeeeeee
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
fucks, I don’t give them, seriously, unless the players money stops the leafs from trading for or signing big money talent, I do not care
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
I care that we spend a lot of money on terrible or mediocre at best players.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
meh
better than having over payed mediocre players playing on the top lines
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
No one is defending Armstrong or Komisarek signings.
I think Jared just means the fact that they cost so much hasn’t been holding the Leafs back from pretty much anything
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
UFAs are a trap for GMs.
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You’re not allowed on #TeamParise2012
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
the problem is someone will offer a ridiculous cap circumvention contract to him.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
lalalalalalalala i cant hear you lalalalalalalala
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
search within yourself, you know it to be true.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
Nice try, but it’s “search your feelings.”
by LeafInVancouver on Feb 21, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
Downie Traded For Quincy from Colorado
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THIS IS BRAND NEW INFORMATION
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’d get excited by the trade but what’s the point?
Dammit Gomez.
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Quincey on the move to Detroit for a first? Wow.
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So, the Lightning traded Steve Downie and got a first round pick. Impressive.
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3 way baby!
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I think the term is manage a trois.
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by Shield on Feb 21, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I see what you did there.
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by GreatKingRat on Feb 21, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
ROFL Colorado is so incompetent. (though i think they HAD to take a player back to trade him and Detroit may not have been willing to do that.)
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this shit is bananas
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
seriously, this shit right here
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
How dumb is Colorado? They got stuck with Steve Downie but could have gotten a 1st (albeit late) round pick
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why the hell did they want steve downie to begin with?
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t get it either… 1st>Quincey>Downie imo yet somehow Stevie got a 1st for him?
New theory… guess which team reported to Spring Training today and has a GM who is known for making the “wait he did what?” trades.
Thats right folks, Alex Anthopolous has gotten bored with baseball and decided to help Stevie Y out today.
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This has to be Yzerman calling in a favour to the wings.
Like Talon gets those sweet deals from the Hawks.
Detroit was at the reserve limit. Piche isn’t a prospect, he’s a Robert Slaney – he’s a throw in for contract compliance, barely making the AHL, and probably not very good at ice hockey.
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I am now hearing TB has traded Kyle Quincey to DET. Working on details but sounds like Quincey to DET for a first-round pick. Verifying.
well, that escalated quickly
Who needs 1sts when you’ve got 7ths
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think they waived him as they had to make room, but didn’t want to lose him.
by Nigel Cadbury on Feb 21, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
Detroit: Not terribly great with waivers.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
have to move players downsometimes. Montreal lost Hainsey the same way. Had someone coming back from injury, needed to move a player down to the AHL and hope no one puts in a claim.
by Nigel Cadbury on Feb 21, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
It was probably to them like it would be to us next year when Aulie is waiver eligible (I think) and we waive him because he was only a filler while someone was hurt. Meh whatever moving on. However 4 years later Quincey turned himself into a decent dman so welcome back
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ya it was a numbers game, from what I remember, they liked him, but had but needed to make room, he was the #7 or 8 D man at the time.
by Nigel Cadbury on Feb 21, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Yes. In fact, Lebda was the guy that got him put on waivers.
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hahahaha excellent plot point
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
however that was the year Lebda actually played a fair amount on the blueline and wasn’t Lebda as we know him…
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andddd
Bobby Mac just confirmed it
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
and… a prospect?
Sebastien Piche.
Maybe just an SPC throw in.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
He’s 27, has put up decent numbers this year (23 points in 54 games), has good possession numbers albeit with pretty cushy zone starts.
I haven’t watched him play so I don’t know more than that.
If I was the Wings I wouldn’t be spending a 1st rounder on this guy even if that 1st is 30th overall. Maybe there is something special in his game?
Wings want to win the Cup and depth at defense is hard to come by apparently this year.
I wonder if Burke is aiming too high with his demands.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Or maybe other teams want Gunnar and Gardiner, not Schenn or Franson.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 21, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
Brad Stuart replacement me thinks. They don’t want to overpay on a UFA defenseman to replace him this summer. To replace Lidstrom on the other hand they are probable prepared to do whatever it takes…
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Colorado despair, for your amusement
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the suffering of other teams is quite amusing. thanks.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Why are they said? Downie can help anchor their fourth first line.
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There’s some awesome rationalization in there.
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Best part is Jibblescribbits pointing out that the trade blows and everyone saying “NO WAY DOWNIE HAS 5 PTS IN HIS LAST 5 GAMES!”
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MHH is sabremetric-averse.
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They’re logic averse. Cheering for your team doesn’t mean you need to bury your head in the sand and proclaim that “everything’s great” all the time.
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with this on them?
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 13 recs
Considering banning you
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worth it
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Terrible commenters about to join the forces of “HF Boards”.
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This needs to be bright green, so that it’s more visible.
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Mark Mckinney is crushing all of our heads.
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by Berezin's Spleen on Feb 21, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
HOLY DEATH FUCK
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 21, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
me too
damned me and my Kettles
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
Tampa trades Kubina. Ohlund’s career is likely over. Here is the Lightning’s depth chart on defese:
Hedman
Brewer
Clark
MA Bergeron
Gervais
Gilroy
Mikkelson
holy fuck that’s terrible.
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Hedman
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LOL.
You know its bad when they are signing NYI castoffs.
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Is Ohlund really that bad? Damn.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Yes. He’s 35 and having major knee surgery in a last attempt to save his career.
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They got this guy back in the Quincey trade apparently. He’s also not very good at hockey (contract requirement, I’d guess).
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Wow, 4 different teams in the Q, including two separate stints with Rouyn Noranda.
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by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 21, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah no doubt, that just seems like a shitload of moving around, even for junior. Guy must be pretty terrible.
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by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 21, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
HAHHAHHA
I’ve seen him play for the Toledo Walleye. He’s fucking terrible.
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Top 3 are all good. I’d gladly take any of them on the Leafs. They just need to add 1 guy via UFA and their top 4 will be fine.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 21, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
Huh, thought he was a bit younger. Still, Hedman/Brewer is decent, and you can add defence via UFA.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 21, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
and then flip him for edmontons 1st!
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
would somebody like a little piece of Komisarek?
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
who Burke got a 5th for
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
Heh. Quincey was originally a Red Wing’s draft pick
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If this shit went down in Toronto there would be rioting in the streets. Detroit does it, “it will help solidify their defense”.
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A big difference is that Detroit’s first isn’t valuable, and ours normally are.
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DET just waits until the 7th to draft it’s superstars… just to show every other team how it’s done.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
Isn’t kindl like the only detriot first rounder on the red wings?
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I think Kronwall was a first rounder
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by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 21, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
wow, the last decent player that the wings got out of the first round was Martin Lapointe in 91
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Nik Kronwall would like to talk to you
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=51215
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ugh, meant to put in “other than Kronwall”
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Detroit’s Defense
Lidstrom
Kronwall
White
Stuart
Ericsson
Quincey
and then Kindl, Smith, Commodore
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
at 41… which is absurd
and then below that they’re more than solid enough to pick up the rest of the time
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
That is actually a solid group 2-6. Decent defensively, good spread of puck moving ability. Helps exponentially that Lidstrom is the number 1, of course.
Just think for theoretical purposes about replacing Phaneuf with Lidstrom… I’m pretty sure Lidstrom could make our other 5 current defensemen look good
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t you dare question their methods!
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unrelated note
Fabian Brunnstrom PLAYED FOR THE WINGS THIS YEAR
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Here’s why Stevie Y is busy…. @erlendssontrib: This now gives #tblightning 2 first-rd picks and possibly 4, 2nd-rd picks #LoadingUpOnPicks
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by happiergilmore on Feb 21, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
another Subban for Habs fans to get mad at…..Might work.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
Ramo?
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by happiergilmore on Feb 21, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Ramo to the Flames with Cammy.
Actually wasn’t an awful deal for Calgary when you really look at it.
Riiiiiight I forgot about that. I checked his HockeyDB page to make sure he hadn’t been traded since his move to MTL and it didn’t say there was anything
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by happiergilmore on Feb 21, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
Ramo has apparently said he doesn’t want to come back to the NHL.
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Hint: it’s because he sucks
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Hey Columbus...
That’s how you rebuild. Or something.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
I could see the LEAFS pursuing him. Didn’t we find out around Kaberle-time that he had an NMC or NTC?
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Burke has been trying to trade for Malone for 2 years, per McKenzie a month or so ago. Yzerman told Burke that Malone isn’t going anywhere.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 21, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
He’s going to draft the cheapest fourth line in hockey.
THEN WHO WILL BE STUPID
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How is Burke not able to pry Stastny out of Colorado with their GM. Do it Burke before they can his ass.
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Sherman: 1st and Kadri for Stastny
Burke: Komisarek and a 7th
Negotiations are heating up…. getting closer.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Sherman: One pee-pee touch!
Burke: no
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 21, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
Best line about the trade...
Steve Kt @SteveintheK
#RedWings, #Avalanche & #Lightning pull of a 3 way trade. Which media outlet will have the balls to run with the headline “MĂ©nage De’troit”
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by WizardofNaz on Feb 21, 2012 4:54 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Good lord do I hate Colby Armstrong.
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I hear Tampa Bay needs an guy who draws penalties.
by Goosemonster on Feb 21, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
Three million fucking dollars.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
by birky on Feb 21, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
“I can’t skate or shoot and it really seems like I also can’t think. Oh and coach? I’m hurt again.”
- Colby Armstrong
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only one more year after this one!
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Woooo summer 2013, all that cap space!
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
IF ONLY SOMEBODY KNEW AT THE TIME
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http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2010/7/1/1547501/maple-leafs-sign-colby-armstrong
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That’s a fucking terrible deal.
by birky on Jul 1, 2010 1:56 PM EDT actions
we just picked up a less talented version of Lee Stempniak for the same price
by birky on Jul 1, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up actions
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Why do I get the feeling we’ll be using "colby armstrong" and "completely unmitigated disaster" together in 6 months
by birky on Jul 1, 2010 2:29 PM EDT actions
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
I apologize. It took a little longer than 6 months.
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hehe I liked this one too.
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by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 21, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
i didnt comment on the armstrong signing because i was weeping
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
His truculence better overpower his suckiness.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 1, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
It didn’t.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
what
by Chemmy on Jul 1, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up actions
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I like re-reading old threads.
Lots of us on the “Frolov for $4.3M” bandwagon.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
And Frolov sure fucking flamed out.
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No one here is going to be unhappy if Armstrong shows up makes us forget about Darcy Tucker before the lockout.
But at the same time looking at the data and using our experience we don’t think it’s likely.
by Chemmy on Jul 1, 2010 12:36 PM PDT
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But stats are useless and we should hate them.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 21, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
hey, let’s go back to the Komisarek signing thread.
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http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2010/7/7/1557679/leafs-sign-lebda
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And with the sixth comment I definitely won:
Kill me now.
by Chemmy on Jul 7, 2010 4:42 PM PDT
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i’ll be seriously upset if he makes more than 750k
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My condolences
Allow me to extend them on behalf of all Wings fans on the internets.
Positives: He can skate like the wind; sometimes he does that while carrying the puck; sometime he does both those things in the direction of the opposing net.
Negatives: Defence; toughness; puck smarts; shot power; shot accuracy; running the point; making smart decisions; backchecking; hockey in general.
by redeyedwings on Jul 7, 2010 7:58 PM EDT actions 1 recs
Somehow, Lebda actually performed worse than what was predicted here.
Man I was hoping he’d be the shut down guy we needed.
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Deals we liked at the time:
Versteeg
Beauchemin
Deals we hated at the time:
Armstrong
Lebda
Komisarek (I personally liked Komisarek. Oops.)
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you were so excited
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
We also, I feel, correctly evaluated Tlusty for Paradis.
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What deals are left to check on? Phaneuf has outperformed expectations but honestly still probably doesn’t live up to his cap hit. Happy to have him though, so whatever.
Giguere gave us some great goaltending until he fell apart and Toskala-ed us, so I think we call that a push.
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is it too early to call tim connolly?
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
We talk about Connolly in the podcast.
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well i can’t interject into the podcast with my trade mark snark and levity now can i?
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t really imagine a world in which I get angry at Tim Connolly. No, he hasn’t been the most productive (or healthy), but I’ll never be in a Komisarek/Orr/Armstrong situation, where I pull up capgeek and say “oh shit, there’s another year after this one?”
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This is what I can come up with off the top of my head...
Great
Beauchemin trade
Kaberle trade
Phaneuf trade
Lebda trade
MacArthur signing
Good
Beauchemin signing
Versteeg trade 1
Liles trade
Bozak UFA signing
Neutral
Kessel trade (can put this where-ever the fuck you want)
Giggy trade
Gustavsson UFA signing
Poni trade (Caputi was a good prospect who didn’t work out. I am okay with this)
Poor
Versteeg trade 2
Liles resigning
Connolly signing
Rolling this year with Reimer/Gus
Stempniak trade (I think a 15-20 g and 40ish point player should have returned at least a 3rd…not really a big deal)
Bad
Komisarek
Armstrong
Lebda signing
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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a few more
Antropov for 2nd?
Exelby for Kubina?
Brown?
Moore?
Steckel?
The rest we probably don’t care about:
Primeau, Dupuis, Wallin, Peluso, Lashoff, Voros, Jones, Petiot, Moore, Hamilton, May
I think we all did. I wanted Torres or Higgins…
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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Torres is a cheap shot artist. I don’t want cheap shot artists on the Leafs. I’d have been fine with Higgins.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 21, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
Army had that reputaiton early in his career (and in my mind at the time of the signing). Also I don’t remember thinking of Torres that badly at that time either.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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Another TBL trade... looks like minor leaguers
Brandan Segal from CHI
for
Matt Fornataro from TBL
No no, dig UP stupid.
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Man it’s taking forever to make this fake Hockey Insider account.
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Do you want to go full Jeffler? Make a Taro Tsujimoto account and see how many fucking idiots follow it?
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u r my favrit golie of all timez! kan i get a RT?
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
I’d thought about it, though calling that move a “full Jeffler” highlights that yes, it would probably work and, no, it wouldn’t be seen as a parody, and no, it probably wouldn’t do anything in the long run. I do like your plan, even though it should be basically impossible to undermine their credibility already.
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5500 and counting!
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
dunno, must have been a nervous twitch
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 21, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
behold
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
by SkinnyFish on Feb 21, 2012 6:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
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