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What Game Did Jonas Watch? Devils: 4, Leafs: 3 in OT

Keep looking at the big picture, Jonas. It's a schooner.


It was one of those games you hate to watch. The forwards played well, the defense played well enough, with the exception of a couple rookie mistakes by Gardiner, but Gustavsson put up a decent showing for maybe a grand total of ten minutes. Though the Leafs spent most of the game down by just one goal, it was hard to feel optimistic given the mistrust

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The Leafs controlled the play through most of the first, but a defensive lapse by Gardiner leaves Sykora a first and second chance low in the slot to let in one goal, and Gustavsson whiffs on a double-covered David Clarkson to put the Blue and White down two early. Franson put a puck on net and Connolly had a beautiful tip to get on the board.

In the second, MGK clicked when Grabbo held in a failed clearing attempt by the Devils, and sent Kulemin and MacArthur on a short, in-zone 2-on-1 - Kulemin with the setup and MacArthur with the finish. Ponikarovsky scored - because of course he did - when Gustavsson failed to shut down the five-hole goal against a pretty pathetic shot.

I disliked this goal when it happened (even though Poni is remarkably open for the walk out, due to Gardiner dropping low rather than covering the slot), but I hate it even more now, as Mark Masters tweeted: "Leafs' Jonas Gustavsson on the Ponikarovsky five-hole goal: "It's one of those goals that when you're hot, you stop."" - but watching the replay a couple times, the rather slow (and off balance) butterfly leaves a lot to be desired. He's not set, he's doing a little spin move, and there's no reason to be falling backwards before the shot is close to getting through (leaning back has a tendency to open the 5-hole up).

The third period was Gustavsson's lone bright spot through the game, though it wasn't anything that could carry the rest of his play. He shut down some good chances by Kovalchuk, and generally looked like we would expect an NHL caliber goaltender to look. He made good decisions about when to come out and challenge, made good save selections, and turned away all 9 shots.

The New Jersey trap was in full effect, and it looked like the game was locked up, but the Kessel line crashed the net to tie the game with under a minute to play. MacArthur had a great first shift in OT, and Gardiner rang a shot right off the post, but the game winning goal, incorrectly credited to Mark Fayne, belonged to none other than Jonas Gustavsson, who used his glove hand to tip in a shot-gone-wide.

Yeah. It was that bad.

The game got physical - Phaneuf put a big hit on Parise in the first, and answered the bell when Clarkson came ringing. But if Parise doen't sign in Toronto this summer, *now* we know why. Or something like that. Early in the second, Eric Bolton took Boyce "nose first" (thanks, Bowen) into the glass well after the puck had left the zone. The game featured the class of refereeing that we've come to expect from the NHL, as clutch and grab hockey went uncalled. Tons of board work, which the Leafs are prone to losing, but I don't think anyone will try to pin this missing point on the zebras.

So again, it was a tough game to watch. But the Leafs got a pity point, they still hold 8th by points and by points percentage.

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A couple bonus thoughts, and the inspiration for tonight's headline, which popped up as I was writing. This Mark Masters tweet is not the kind of attitude you'd want to see, given tonight's performance: "Jonas Gustavsson: 'If I look at the big picture tonight I felt pretty good... felt better the longer the game went':" I'm not sure how you can come to this conclusion when the last goal was entirely and exclusively your fault. After your most recent screw up, there was no more game to go on. Your last failure caused the game to stop going on, and yet you'd like to gloss over it? It's important for goaltenders not to dwell on a loss - doing so can really get you lost in the woods - but this is either a very brave media-face, or it's a pretty nasty sense of denial. Wilson says his goalies need more confidence, but if you're not broadcasting insecurities after a game like this, the Leafs should be blaming a lack of talent.

So here we are, talking about the same thing we've talked about for the last four weeks, for the last four months, for the last four years: what can this team do to get a reliable netminder? I'll be very surprised if Burke does anything about the goaltending situation in the week before the trade deadline. He's publicly said that Gustavsson "saved our season" after Reimer went down with a concussion, and I doubt there's much demand for a guy who's rounding the 3000 SA mark with a .901 career average. At this point? I think I'm going to have to settle for Gustavsson simply to not get an extension in the offseason.

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honestly believe you put Rick Nash in pads tonight he has a fair chance at a similar performance

by LeafluvrCC on Feb 21, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Top 10 offence in the league? Almost league worst goaltending and defence? MOAR GOALS NAO

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by MLS on Feb 21, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, if they scored 20 goals a game, they’d probably win a lot of games.

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by theninjagreg on Feb 21, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's a poll

Anyone believe the NHL’s Old Boys really tell the referees to call the game the same way in all three periods, or do they just lie to the fans and give the refs the old ‘nudge-nudge-wink-wink’?

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by Back In Black on Feb 21, 2012 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

Refs used to call a make-up penaltie that was border-line if they made a bad call earlier.Didnt matter who the team was ( except Farry Frazer ). Todays refs dont give a fuck because there is no discipline for bad calls or missed calls and they dont like the Leafs. The only reason they went to 2 refs was so they could make twice as many bad calls. The league should address refs performance by other means than just saying the bad refs dont get play-off games. Ref discipline should be PUBLIC KNOWLEGE so the fans can see that things are being worked on as best as possible

by wtf now on Feb 21, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I swear Gustavsson cannot focus for more than 10 minutes

That explains how he plays well for a little bit, then makes an horribly dumb play or lets in a soft goal.

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by TannShazamm on Feb 21, 2012 11:10 PM EST reply actions  

Brushing off Lombardi and stiffing his teammates was brutal.

The guy isn’t an NHL goalie, and I’m not trying to pile on here but he doesn’t seem like a very stable emotional adult.

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by LeafluvrCC on Feb 21, 2012 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

At least Gus is not Bryz. With a Bryz-like contract.

Though I admit I like his old school goalie pads.

by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 21, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I think this write-up is charitable to Gustavsson

Granted, there were other defensive lapses at work, but that enormous rebound that he kicked straight back in to the slot on the first goal was not impressive. Whiffing on the two between the wickets made this performance an absolute joke, well before the overtime piece-de-resistance.

That was the kind of game that should get a guy waived. Even worse than his epic botch job against Pittsburgh a couple weeks back. Un-fucking-believable.

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by jrwendelman on Feb 21, 2012 11:14 PM EST reply actions  

Look at Bozaks reaction on the last goal.

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by leafer1984 on Feb 21, 2012 11:15 PM EST reply actions  

I’d be doing the same thing

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by MLS on Feb 21, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Lupul’s face is fantastic.

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by Chemmy on Feb 21, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, do you mean Kessel’s or Fayne’s?

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by Chemmy on Feb 21, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Fayne.
He has this you gotta be shitting me reaction

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by leafer1984 on Feb 21, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's Lupul and Ron Wilson

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by Chemmy on Feb 21, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Guy on the right is in the middle of a

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by SkinnyFish on Feb 21, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Lombardi with the “welp, see you guys”.

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by Chemmy on Feb 21, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Wilson

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by SkinnyFish on Feb 21, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I think his face mimicked all of our faces after that goal. I know mine was an exact replica of Lupul’s for about 20 minutes after the goal.

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by MLS on Feb 21, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve officially given up on Gustavsson. His stretch in January showed me what I thought he has in him. This game tonight showed me that he’ll never be able to stop being awful, no matter how good he looks over short stretches.

Reimer is still unproven and becoming more and more Gustavsson-esque every day.

Wilson is still awful.
Burke is looking less and less impressive as the bad decisions begin to mount.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 21, 2012 11:19 PM EST reply actions  

As inconsistent as Reimer has been since he’s come back from injury, he’s never had a game like this one. What a disgrace.

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by MLS on Feb 21, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

True, Reimer has never let in a goal that was going to miss the net, but he’s had plenty of bad games in this past stretch.

Sign a #1 goalie, lose Gustavsson, keep Reimer has backup for the rest of his contract and see how he does.

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by Gebx on Feb 22, 2012 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

and where do you suggest they find this free number one goalie?

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

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I’ve officially given up on Gustavsson.

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by Frag on Feb 21, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

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At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Feb 21, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

meh. even Chemmy just today said that he’d consider signing Gus if he kept playing the way he’s been playing lately.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 21, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

He hasn’t though. He played a nice month in January.

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by Chemmy on Feb 21, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

but you did say it. don’t make me go find it.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 21, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure. It’s a pretty simple conditional: if he gives us consistent .905 goaltending I’d be happy extending him to be the backup.

He hasn’t given us that.

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by Chemmy on Feb 21, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

If Gus finishes the season at where he is now I’m ok with it.

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by Chemmy on Feb 21, 2012 9:28 AM PST

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 21, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

No one is attempting to cover up that I said that.

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by Chemmy on Feb 21, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

i’m just saying, it’s not like everyone was running him out of town this morning.

not that i disagree with it after tonight.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 21, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s been pretty brutal for the past month.

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by Chemmy on Feb 21, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

i don’t disagree.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 21, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Gustavsson’s a big guy with obvious quickness in his legs and arms. It’s been hard to give up on him. But he just can’t get in the way of the puck. I really wanted him to get an opportunity to prove himself this year, and unfortunately I think he’s proven that the SEL is the place for him.

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by Back In Black on Feb 22, 2012 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

And then he went and laid a big ol’ shit.

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by SkinnyFish on Feb 21, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that what it looks like when Hell freezes over

by wtf now on Feb 21, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

The sky is falling….

by Jon K. on Feb 22, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Can we just start referring to this phenomenon as “The Rask Curse”?

Then the solution being a nice offer sheet for him this summer.

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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 21, 2012 11:22 PM EST reply actions  

I swear I remember Burke claiming that he builds his teams from the net out. This team is the polar fucking opposite of that. Fuck JVR, Nash and Carter, he has got to bring in someone who can play half competent in net. I’m not even asking for a good goalie, just someone who won’t blow games like tonights

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by jd90 on Feb 21, 2012 11:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

You forgot how his teams have truculence and pugnacity

by jeffgm on Feb 21, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Funny how he stopped saying that crap after awhile

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by jd90 on Feb 21, 2012 11:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Burke’s act is getting pretty old at this point. I’ve been behind him 100% up to this point and to a certain extent I still am, because I don’t doubt that his singular focus is winning a championship in Toronto. But he fucked up the goaltending situation in the most obvious way possible from the outset here. He came into this season talking big about how our D will stack up against anyone in the East. I’m getting sick of him biding his time trying to hit a home run with a trade, and in the end pulling his prized chips off the table when the “right deal” never materializes. This team needs defensive and goaltending help in the worst way. And he’s gonna have to pay up to fix his mistakes.

by lucc on Feb 22, 2012 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I like that he is building up prospect and the future success of the team and the team has bigger problems then a few trades can fix. So I don’t want to criticize him too much in case they bring another JFJ who depletes the prospects and leads the team down the path we know doesn’t work. But Burke needs to address goaltending (it has been three years) by the start of next season. And add size in the top 6 and either defender that fit the defence system or a coach that can coach defence (I’m not sure what the problem is).

by jeffgm on Feb 22, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m just not sure how exactly this team is going to be any better than a bubble team. He refuses to give the big contracts out to ufa’s, although looking at who he has signed I wouldn’t really want him giving any of those out. So if he can’t sign top talent, isn’t going to draft anyone that will help in the short term and refuses to throw out an offer sheet(I know no one in the league does) How is he going to improve? Trade for them one by one?

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by jd90 on Feb 22, 2012 1:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Also can someone please .GIF Wilson saying “Fuck Me” after the 1st goal? I feel like that could get some pretty good mileage

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by theninjagreg on Feb 22, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

#humblebrag?

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by theninjagreg on Feb 22, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Gustavsson made the excuse that the puck bounced, which it did. It also didnt hit the inside of his legs like I thought, it hits him on the wrist and bounces in

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by leafer1984 on Feb 21, 2012 11:29 PM EST reply actions  

Because he sucks.

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by Chemmy on Feb 21, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Scandinavian goalie making mistakes for his terrible play. Sound familiar?

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by SkinnyFish on Feb 21, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

My EYES!!!!!!!!!

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by TheNadger on Feb 21, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

It was a bad bounce

and for a better goalie it would be an unlucky goal. Those happen to the best goaltenders. Unfortunately, Gus isn’t good enough to be able to afford bad luck. When you’re constantly beaten by lucky bounces it begins to demonstrate that you’re just not getting in front of the puck.

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by Back In Black on Feb 22, 2012 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

If we hadnt hit the post and scored then the game would have been ours but bad luck strikes as often as good luck does and we wouldnt be so pissed at Gus. Remember the jan. games and hope this was Just one of those games. Gus should also chose his words better when talking to the media.

by wtf now on Feb 21, 2012 11:32 PM EST reply actions  

we wouldnt be so pissed at Gus

Yes we would

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by leafer1984 on Feb 21, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

So if we scored on the post shot after Gus played a good third period to give us a chance to win and we did you would still be pissed at him? Why

by wtf now on Feb 21, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Because he played like shit?

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by AM18 on Feb 21, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Cuz he let in 2 horrible goals. Leafs would have one in spite of him, not because of him

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by leafer1984 on Feb 21, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Because he’s bad at goaltending, and in fact he’s bad enough at his job that he erases the positive contributions of others on the team.

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by Chemmy on Feb 21, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

So you are saying he was lucky in Jan. and we would still feel the same way today If we won . I dont remember too many on this site that felt that way then. Infact I remember that at the time Riemer was being thrown under the bus.

by wtf now on Feb 21, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

During Gustavsson’s hot streak, I remember a lot of people recalling another, better 10 game hot streak put up by Vesa Toskala the year he finished with a .885 sv% and pointing to that as something to not be forgotten so as to temper expectations.

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by SkinnyFish on Feb 21, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe we live too much in the past.

by wtf now on Feb 21, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Funny thing about the past, it’s the only thing we have to look at when attempting to predict the future.

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by SkinnyFish on Feb 21, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I know. If you cant remember the past then you are doomed to repeat it.

by wtf now on Feb 21, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Brian Burke has never heard that saying before.

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by SkinnyFish on Feb 21, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

The Irish have their own sayings

by wtf now on Feb 21, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

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Hoi ti ti toi ti toi

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by theninjagreg on Feb 22, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Ugh

I can remember all the shitty goalies of the last decade

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by jd90 on Feb 22, 2012 12:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

As Leafs fans, isn’t the past all we have?

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by Alspicer on Feb 22, 2012 7:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha, what

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by Chemmy on Feb 22, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I remember a lot of people (myself included) waiting for the regression to the mean.

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by furcifer on Feb 22, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

If Gardiner scored, we wouldn’t have seen Gus face the deadly shot from the point that was going wide.

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 21, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Gus should say whatever he wants to the media, I couldn’t care less.

Gus should do all of the following:

1. Stop more pucks.
2. See 1

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by Chemmy on Feb 21, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

people get too excited about what players say to the media. they should make that a stat on the next NHL game for each player

by GerbersAdvocate on Feb 21, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I like

that this fanshot shows up everytime Gustavsson is tagged in a story

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I hate the Gustavsson is crappy at goaltending

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by theninjagreg on Feb 21, 2012 11:53 PM EST reply actions  

So here we are, talking about the same thing we’ve talked about for the last four weeks, for the last four months, for the last four years: what can this team do to get a reliable netminder?

Burke could have signed Budaj or Theodore in the summer, for free, and if they didn’t work out, bury them in the minors. And shouldn’t such a risk be somewhat mitigated by Burke’s phalanx of professional scouts?

Burke owns this failure. He gave Gustavsson the benefit of the doubt. He lost. He declared an unproven hot rookie goalie his starter. Lost that one too.

I bet Theodore would look pretty good right now. I bet Budaj would look good right now. Last summer was the time to do it, and again, his gentleman-GM act took its toll on the team, just like it did over chrstimas with the failure to trade for Turris.

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by Peter de Chatham on Feb 22, 2012 12:01 AM EST reply actions  

Turris? He’s .37 PPG. Not a game changer.

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by theninjagreg on Feb 22, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Turris wouldn’t make much of a difference on this team, especially considering what the Leafs might have had to give up.

I do agree that Burke gambled on Gustavsson and Reimer and has lost on both counts this year. Yes, Reimer got hurt, which is unfortunate, but Burke put himself into a situation where his Plan B was Gustavsson. And as far as I can tell, there isn’t a Plan C.

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by T is for Truculence on Feb 22, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

He’s working on Plan C right now and probably pulling his hair out.

by wtf now on Feb 22, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Plan C was dealing for Nabokov when he was supposedly available for a measly 2nd round pick back in November or whenever.

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by Peter de Chatham on Feb 22, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Plan C was for Scrivens or Rynnas to step forward instead of back.

Goaltending is tough to evaluate. Budaj is established to be mediocre at best; Peter I’m not sure why you keep bringing him up when he’s been no better than Gustavsson or Reimer. Theodore would have been a smart acquisition. Burke gambled that with four talented young goaltenders, at least one would step forward like Reimer did last season. He lost.

Now I don’t know what the answer is. It’s hard to spend big assets for another young, talented, but unproven goalie who may turn into another Raycroft or Toskala. It’d be nice to get Nabokov to finish the season, but it’d also be nice if the Islanders would ask a reasonable price for a UFA rental and I don’t think they will.

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by Back In Black on Feb 22, 2012 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Four talented young goalies is a little bit generous. I see three undrafted, most likely career minor league guys. Not much of a fall back plan for your starter, who had only played around 40 games in the NHL

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by jd90 on Feb 22, 2012 1:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Lots of undrafted goalies have turned into stars. If you went back over the past 30 years and compared undrafted goalies to first round picks you’d probably find a similar number of stars in the former group. It’s hard to evaluate goalie talent.

Scrivens was .925 as a rookie with the Marlies last year; the same kind of numbers Reimer was putting up before having success at the NHL last season, the same kind of numbers Cory Schneider put up in his three seasons in the AHL, the same kind of numbers Jonathan Quick had down there.

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by Back In Black on Feb 22, 2012 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

PHX would probably have asked for Gardiner to get Turris. Do you want Turris over Gardiner?

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 22, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Rundblad isn’t Gardiner.

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by Chemmy on Feb 22, 2012 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Runblad + a 2nd

Gardiner is better than that too but PHX, if they were looking for a young PMD, would probably have asked for him.

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 22, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Blacker.

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by Chemmy on Feb 22, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

meh, I still don’t want Turris. Really don’t feel like we missed out.

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 22, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Or Holzer, or Mikus, or Aulie if they didn’t know better.

I think it had the potential of being a decent trade, especially with our third line guys struggling to produce this season. But my main point was the whole gentleman-GM thing Burke’s got going – it’s tangible evidence of a downside to the chivalry. Just like Gustavsson still being a Leaf and Budaj/Theodore not being a Leaf is evidence of the same.

What’s the tangible evidence that Burke’s honour has allowed the franchise to collect better free agents and favourable signings? THe only thing I can think of is Liles’ discount deal.

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by Peter de Chatham on Feb 22, 2012 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Let’s see how it works out for resigning Grabbo

by jeffgm on Feb 22, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope if we don’t resign him in the next couple of days, Burke gives serious consideration to shipping him out of town, considering the return he would generate. Steve Downie turned (thru three way trade) into a late 1st?

Grabbo’s worth more than that. Let’s hope Burke picks common sense over his loyalty to Wilson.

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by Peter de Chatham on Feb 22, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Rundblad does seem to have a pretty high ceiling though, at least from what I have read / heard. To be honest when I heard about that trade I thought:

1) Glad we weren’t in on it at that price
2) Really glad it cost the Sens Rundblad

by samspade on Feb 22, 2012 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Although they view Karlsson as the next Orr so they don’t really feel they lost anything, I bet

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 22, 2012 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Eugene Melnyk thinks Karlsson will be better than Orr.

by smcs on Feb 22, 2012 1:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Eugene Melnyk also thinks he can keep Leafs fans out of Scotiabank Place.

;)

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by LeafBoy on Feb 22, 2012 2:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Also why would we need another 2nd/3rd line center? Don’t we have enough of those

Komisarek Blows

by jd90 on Feb 22, 2012 12:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Well, with this deadline market, at the very least such a center could have been flipped for a late 1st.

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by Peter de Chatham on Feb 22, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Which one of Connoly, Bozak, Lombardi, Steckel is worth a late first? And I really don’t think Turris would have helped at all. The fact that we’re still watching bush league Gustavsson, and damaged crappy Reimer attempt to play goalie is the biggest problem

Komisarek Blows

by jd90 on Feb 22, 2012 1:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Why would anyone want Turris? Guy came over to Ottawa, got some points, people went Ohhhhh, we shoulda got him.

Last 12 games? 2 points. Forget it.

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by not norm ullman on Feb 22, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Thank you. You spared me a few words.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 22, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Phil Kessel has matched his point total from last year

With 24 games left, 64 points.

(31G 33A this year, 32G 33A last year)

by physicalred on Feb 22, 2012 1:09 AM EST reply actions  

Game late.

But still enough to make me smile.

by physicalred on Feb 22, 2012 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Steve Dangle’s video recap reminds me of the game against Buffalo when Toskala deflected a dump in that was a few feet high and wide into the net that forced Leafer, myself and every other person defending Toskala to just give up hope of him as the goalie of the Leafs.

Man, what a terrible goal.

Don't trade Grabbo

by CoolJ90 on Feb 22, 2012 1:34 AM EST reply actions  

What the fuck are we doing

Ok. Im new on here so I dont know what people have been saying in general, but I have noticed the typical sentiments that this team needs defensive help. While I agree with this, I dont agree with where this defensive help should come from. I think the team has the D men it needs to be OKAY. (if they actually played their best D men)

the team is a defensive nightmare because the FORWARDS are fucking terrible at defensive zone coverage and are also masters of turning the puck over in the neutral zone. ive never seen a team so inept at getting the puck out of its own end under no pressure (im looking at you “step on the puck and fall on my ass leading directly to goal MacArthur” ..

Lupul and Kessel are helpless in their own end as is Grabo. I dont think just adding defensement to the mix is going to change this. There is a culture of shitty defensive zone coverage this team has had for ever and Wilson is the reason it is accepted. The shit is just so damn correctable but it would actually take some will to do it. Wilson has no intention of admitting he’s been doing it wrong..so he continues with his bull shit system.

that is all for now.

by DerlegoMyEgo on Feb 22, 2012 1:59 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

At least we didn’t lose 6-1 to Edmonton

by TheDeek on Feb 22, 2012 2:04 AM EST reply actions  

A goalie that would not have let the OT goal in

We're getting sick of him, he's just shouting congress tart

by PKSube on Feb 22, 2012 2:24 AM EST reply actions  

I hope everyone feels cool jumping on Gus. Lots of goalies have bad games. If you’re singing a different tune than you were before tonight, take a step back and reflect.

I’m not saying that he’s better than Reimer, but the idea that this game proves that he is insufficient is ridiculous. Either we knew it already, or we don’t know it yet.

In the court of public opinion, Steve Simmons is Lionel Hutz.

by The Bag on Feb 22, 2012 2:29 AM EST reply actions  

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by CanadianMaple09 on Feb 22, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Either we knew it already, or we don’t know it yet.

Everyone crosses that line somewhere. For some of us, it was last night.

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by Back In Black on Feb 22, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Take Gustavsson’s post game comment and compare it to Pavelec sitting heartbroken outside the Jets locker-room after making 50 saves, getting little defensive help and losing the game in overtime.

I’m done with Gus.

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by Alspicer on Feb 22, 2012 7:56 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

It reminded me of the Raycroft “happy with his performance” quote after he set the franchise record for wins* and the Leafs missed the playoffs due partly to his awfulness

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by furcifer on Feb 22, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Everythings going to be all right...

the same people who are dumping on Gus are the ones who were behind him during that great stretch he had….it’s too easy to get on and off the wagon….Gus is a good goaltender, although he has been prone to the bad goal at times…As he matures in this league, he’ll be a top goaltender…I was little surprised a the lack of interest at the ACC….i could hear chants of Arrrrgoooos….we need to give this team our support…..Go Leafs Go!

by phunky on Feb 22, 2012 9:33 AM EST reply actions  

Gus is a good goaltender

he isnt even a 900 career goaltender
he sucks, people were behind him when he was winning because he was fucking winning and we hoped he would keep it up, he has yet to do it for any extended period of time where it would gain him the benefit of the doubt any other time when he is not playing very well and winning (or at the very least losing games) for the leafs
you really think Gustavsson is going to be a top goaltender in the NHL? are you kidding me? that is flat out insane

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

no love for gus?

the game moves very quickly…. split-second errors lead to wins/losses… this time we got screwed (but at least kessel got us into overtime).

by magecanuck on Feb 22, 2012 9:37 AM EST reply actions  

3 of the 4 goals were weak. The OT goal would have been stopped by an empty net. So yes, no love for Gus. He sucks. Most people realize it.

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by furcifer on Feb 22, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

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