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mmm... tea
I’ll trade you my cucumber sandwich and future considerations for your buttered scone.
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
by Learn2Leaf on Feb 22, 2012 2:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
no deal… the buttered scone’s delicious/60 is through the roof
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 22, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
But it’d look great centering a line with clotted cream. I’ll toss in my 1st on the desert tray.
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
by Learn2Leaf on Feb 22, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
1st’s from the desert tray aren’t worth much. You’re likely to get a bunch of cactus bits and tumbleweed. Now 1st’s from the dessert tray, those are worth something!
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by CanadianMaple09 on Feb 22, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I’ll trade you the weight of a bowling ball on the third moon of Jupiter from my lunch for the weight of a feather from the sixth moon of Neptune from your lunch.
by MrSmithy on Feb 22, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
His wife or the tea?
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 22, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
So who do we cheer for in the Caps/Sens game tonight?
Other than a meteor of course
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Doesn’t matter it will be a 3 pointer.
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Oh come on, don’t have so much faith in Washington.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
As much as I would the Leafs to catch the Sens, it really isn’t looking likely barring all out collapse. Best hope is for the SE to continue to wallow.
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
Actually, I think the Sens are due for a bit of a slump. Craig Anderson, at the end of February 2009, posted a sparkling .926 save %, with about 51 games played. In March 2009, he was down to .894.
He’s already at 55 games now, and their backup is Auld, whose save % is .883.
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by Peter de Chatham on Feb 22, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Ottawa is not that far ahead of us. Completely catchable.
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by BCapp on Feb 22, 2012 3:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
go caps
We’re making the playoffs with some honour — by winning our games so much that those behind us just can’t catch up.
As for the sens, always cheer against them in general. Although it would be great if Karlsson gets like 80 pts this year so i can sell high on him in my fantasy league, and so the Sens re-up Oleg Tverdovsky 2.0 for $9M a year
Unabashed fan of the surprise 2012 Stanley Cup champs
This
… minus Karlsson success. Unless it hamstrings them someway or another.
Kids, the untradeable prospects of our future! Develop them well in the minors.
by The Blue Spirit on Feb 22, 2012 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
I’d assume a Sens victory is safer because it looks unlikely we will catch them. Sportsclubstats agrees: http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Eastern/Northeast/Toronto.html
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by theninjagreg on Feb 22, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
Where the fuck are all the trades I was promised?
I’m gonna burn this site down.
Shit. Got no lighter, no fuel. Where’s a Habs fan when you need one, eh?
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 22, 2012 2:58 PM EST reply actions
Nucks fans will help
Come get your duds in order 'cuz we're bound to cross the water, HEAVE AWAY, me jollies, HEAVE AWAY -- Bowl of Fruit Lups in the evening gets the playoffs started!!
the best part is the cone on the top of the cop car, I just picture some shy kid who wants to riot, but is too scared working up all his courage, snatching that cone off the street, running up putting that there and yelling TAKE THAT!
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Well a good riot needs someone who’s safety conscious… who ever put that there wanted to make sure that the road hazard was easily visible to any passing drivers
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 22, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I've got one for you
Bears have traded their honey to the Badgers in exchange for the Bears’ lives. A pick may be heading the Badgers’ way in order to get the leftover rattlesnake out of their teeth.
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Afternoon tea?
The fuck? It’s just gone noon.
by LeafInVancouver on Feb 22, 2012 3:00 PM EST reply actions
It’s 3pm in the East……Where it matters./Eastcoast4Life
A would have a signature but I am forced to watch this crap.
fuck the East… here in the Central time zone we get to watch late night shows at 10:30, and everything’s on at a far more convenient time
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 22, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
you getting excited for the Leafs being in town next week? I can’t wait, I’m gonna get real loud at that game
by WorldSeriesTiger on Feb 22, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
So pumped… it’ll be my 1st Leafs game so I’m going to try and go down and watch warm-ups from the lower bowl and take a few pictures
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 22, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
you also have to live in that icky middle part of the country
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
One of the only things I miss about good ol’ flyover country.
Where my heart belongs - GO LEAFS GO!
I started a blog.
I had to do some actual work at work for the past 15 minutes, has Burke overhauled the roster yet?
by WorldSeriesTiger on Feb 22, 2012 3:04 PM EST reply actions
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
Assuming no hiccups, Ruuttu expected to get a 4-year extension with a slight bump on the $3.8M he’s currently earning. #TradeCentre #tsn
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 22, 2012 3:07 PM EST reply actions
ok, so 4ish mill for ruutu, grabbo will demand at least a mill more per than that…yeah
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
Unconfirmed number being $4.4 per yr
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 22, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Thats how much he is making this year
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Player 1: Uh….but we’re in 15th place
GM: CLOSE I SAY! CLOSE!
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
“I really like being on a basement team, but I’ve got waaaaay too much cap space, and might accidentally use it to make this franchise better. How can I fix that?”
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Bobby Mac
CAR and Tuomo Ruutu agree to terms on a four-year extension with an AAV of $4.75M
Great googly moogly
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
What this team really needs is zero centres who can play defence rather than one.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Feb 22, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Grabovski isn’t worth 5.5 or 6 million.
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Players we can acquire via UFA or internally who will provide the same value as Grabovski next season: aaaaaand . . . go!
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by Draglikepull on Feb 22, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Wouldn’t the whole point be to expand “via UFA or internally” to include “or trade”?
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So we’re giving up cap space AND good assets to replace a guy we already have?
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by Draglikepull on Feb 22, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
are we going to pay him ridiculous money he does not deserve to keep him?
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Good UFAs cost money. We’re going to have to replace his value somehow. We’re not going to find a cheaper replacement unless we draft him.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 22, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
paying him too much money is a bad move
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
I agree. 5.5 or higher and that’s just too rich for my blood.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
You’re also assuming Burke can/will dump salary owed to Connolly, Lombardi, Komisarek, and/or Armstrong in order to fit Grabovski under the cap.
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I hear Carolina wants to stay a basement team. Komi might help.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
If we honestly need to trade Grabovski to keep Armstrong and Komisarek on the roster then Burke needs to be fired immediately.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 22, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
I think the Connolly signing, more than anything, means Grabovski is out the door. And honestly, I don’t think the drop-off is going to kill the Leafs if it comes to that.
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It shouldnt, trade Connolly for a ham sandwich if he’s preventing us from re-signing Grabbo, who is much better and more valuable to this team. My worry is mostly related to term, or anything higher than 5.5 million.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Grabovski is one of three Leafs forwards with a positive Corsi ON (the other 2 are MacA and Kessel). He scores goals at nearly twice the rate of Bozak and three times the rate of Connolly. He’s capable of performing well against top competition. If the Leafs trade him and go into next season with Bozak/Connolly/Colborne down the middle, we may as well go full rebuild because we’re not making the playoffs.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 22, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
and 5.5-6 million dollars is too gee dee much money for him
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Once again, I ask who we’re going to get to replace his contributions who will be on a cheaper contract?
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by Draglikepull on Feb 22, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
doesn’t really matter, when you cannot afford something, you just don’t buy it
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Are you saying I shouldn’t have put all of those faberge eggs on my credit card?
by JohnerstonRex on Feb 22, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
nExactly, this seems to be a concept that many people don't understand.
I’m no business wiz, but I know if it’s over-priced, I don’t buy it. Crazy concept.
You’re asking a question no one here can possibly answer with any sort of certainty. If you want, I can go find a list of centers equal or better than Grabbo who make equal or less money.
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Guys who were signed as UFAs by teams who didn’t draft them? Guys making less than Grabbo who are better than him are pretty much all playing for the team that drafted them, and most of them are RFAs.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 22, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Ok….that doesn’t mean the Leafs can’t acquire one of those players this summer.
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So we’re going to let one of our best players go because we hope someone else becomes available?
OK, let’s say everything works out perfectly and that actually happens. Let’s say Boston decides that with Bergeron and Seguin as their 1-2 punch down the middle they don’t need David Krejci any more. Are we going to give Boston Kadri or Gardiner or whoever just to save $250,000 by having Krejci instead of Grabovski?
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by Draglikepull on Feb 22, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
if we could fire Connolly to the moon I’d pay Grabbo his salary plus some.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Krejci is not overpaid. He got market value for a 60+ point C who was their leading scorer in the playoffs last year…
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by BCapp on Feb 22, 2012 4:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ehh. At his skill he was likely to get what he deserved, RFA or not.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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by BCapp on Feb 22, 2012 4:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Huh?
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by BCapp on Feb 22, 2012 4:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
On the other hand, I don’t think Connolly or Lombardi are without value. “Dumping” them to keep Grabovski seems counter-productive if you can move them to get a player on a better deal, no?
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Dumping connolly doesnt seem coutner productive to me. It would imply has has been productive, which he really hasn’t been for looooong stretches.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
He has 13 less points than Grabbo in 6 less games. He also plays less and with worse teammates.
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he also disappears for long stretches of time
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
He “Disappears” because he never scores (ever) and people seem to think he’s a 25-goal scorer.
OPERATION TANK IS A GO.
In an unprecedented move 9 teams in the Eastern Conference have decided to officially "pass" on the playoffs
sure, and he scored a good overtime winner (after turning it over and nearly blowing the game, but still). He still provides nowhere near 4.75 million in value.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
he’s not a 25 goal scorer, nor has he been a 20 goal scorer. I know he’s not a scorer. But he also hasn’t been a very creative or dynamic offensive player.
To me, he’s acceptable this year but I’d rather have Colborne have a chance at that spot next season.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
We’re not getting an upgrade on Grabovski for Lombardi. If we trade for an upgrade on Grabbo, it’s going to cost a top-quality asset like Jake Gardiner.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 22, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
No it would mostly be a salary dump for a pick or something.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Obviously not straight up. That would make no sense. But could you package one or both with a more attractive to asset to get something better than Grabovski?
Here’s another thought: Why not Grabovski test the market? Maybe no one offers him 5+.
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However someone like Joe Pavelski might be available for the right price. With Couture and Thorton down the middle he might be expendable. I’d do Kadri and a 1st for Pavelski. Or Schenn and a 1st if they want a dman…
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
I don’t overvalue them except insofar as we keep trading them away. Sometimes for good reasons (Kessel) sometimes for bad reasons (most other times)
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
so if there’s a player as elite as Kessel available by all means move that 1st.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Pavelski is worse than Grabovski. So now we’re talking about trading good assets to downgrade on Grabbo?
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by Draglikepull on Feb 22, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
All I know is Colborne should have a chance at a spot next camp, which to me doesn’t affect Grabbo but more Connolly/Lombo. One of those guys has gots to go.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
Pavelski… 46 points in 58 games. Last year 66 points in 74 games. 4 million cap hit. Oh and he’s good in his own zone.
That= slight upgrade actually
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Same age plus he is UFA in 14-15
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by happiergilmore on Feb 22, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Joe Pavelski is not available for anything less than the entire fucking moon.
The guy is currently playing really well on a good value contract.
Marleau – Thornton – Pavelski are San Jose’s everything line: high scoring against the best competition. True Power vs Power.
Add to that, Pavelski and Cotoure are pretty clearly the successors to Thornto and Marleau.
if they are getting Nash, you have to think Pavelski’s going the other way, if they are saying Coutoure isn’t available.
by Nigel Cadbury on Feb 22, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
i have no idea why they would risk assets on Nash when Havlat should be ready to go for playoffs
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
well, would you trade Couture for a player not as good as Couture? Didnt think so.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
rather trade Connolly that’s for sure. Or Lombardi. Or Bozak. But you can’t go crazy on UFAs. if he is open market value is 6 and he wants to go for it, go ahead. If you want to stay with us, we’ll give you a fair price and stability with an organization you seem to like.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
that’s not my worry, just that in 2 years when he still has 2-4 years left on his deal, grabbo becomes another Lombadri, Komisarek or armstrong contract
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Our history with UFA signings is actually pretty atrocious. Except Beauch.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
And MacArthur.
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If we want to include good returns in trades, Lebda would be there too. However, I am reluctant to include Lebda in anything that resembles a positive light.
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Plus, if the Leafs weren’t lucky and didn’t trade, that would go down as one of Burke’s worst UFA signings.
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Dont think that counts. Lebda was a terrible UFA signing, we just turned shit into gold a year later.
Also, -3.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
all of those guys
are problems Burke himself created.
He really does terrify me on July 1. Every year.
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We need to consider the cost of overpaying him against the cost of replacing him.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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by BCapp on Feb 22, 2012 3:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If we save $5M+ by not re-signing Grabovski, we could use that money to sign another player who could possibly be just as good as Grabovski!
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
/checks UFA’s
/Parise
//suter
hmmmmmmmm
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
I’m going to guess we get neither, to be honest.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Small chance at either. So for a CHANCE at them.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
by BCapp on Feb 22, 2012 4:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
PARISE AND GRABOVSKI WOO I LOVE LEAF
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
I am trying to be serious.
Is overpaying Grabovski by 1 million for the next 2 years and 2.5 million for the 3 years after, equal to/lesser/greater than the cost to replace him (trading prospects to get a C, replacing with a subpar player, risking not replacing him).
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
by BCapp on Feb 22, 2012 4:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
well, if grabbo is not resigned, then he is probably traded, so you also have to factor in the potential value of any incoming pieces against potential dead cap space too
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
Good point.
This is the way I think we should look at this. Not just the signing in isolation.
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by BCapp on Feb 22, 2012 4:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, but it was behind a mystery door.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 22, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Did that desk happen to be…. indoors?
Or sitting in a woodland clearing?
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 22, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll just rest my case right here, if you don’t mind, on this lovely carpet.
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by not norm ullman on Feb 22, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I just thought of something… Grabo for Bernier… It’d make sense for LA does it make sense for Toronto?
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straight up? No way. We have better than .900 goaltending, as bad as ours has been of late.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
.900 GOALTENDING YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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players on the Leafs worth 5.5 to 6 million a year aaaaaaaaaaand….go!
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Kessel
and….
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 22, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Grabovski
Kessel
Phaneuf
Lupul if he can keep up his current level of play (so probably not)
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by Draglikepull on Feb 22, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
3 out of 4 aint bad
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
phaneuf no
I like what he brings to the table, but there’s no way he’s worth the coin he’s making right now. I can name 20-30 dmen i’d rather have than him, and there’s only about a dozen dmen that make north of $6M
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fun fact, Phaneuf is probably in the top 15-12 Dmen
is he over paid? sure, but not by as much as you are suggesting
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
IIRC he is top 15 in ATOI, G, pts for a dman over the past 4 years.
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by BCapp on Feb 22, 2012 4:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dion would easily get his current $6.5 million if he were a UFA on July 1.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 22, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Fictional scenario: Had to choose one - Suter or Phaneuf?
Go.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
Suter
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by happiergilmore on Feb 22, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
what does this have to do with Phaneuf not being worth 5-6 million?
by Nigel Cadbury on Feb 22, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
What does that have to do with “Fictional Scenario”
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Phaneuf*
I am completely biased
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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If we’re ignoring contracts? Phaneuf. I think it’s easier to find a defensive anchor than a two-way talent.
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by Bower Power on Feb 22, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah I was about to say this.
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by happiergilmore on Feb 22, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
Lower P/60, but they’re much closer than I thought. Suter, then, I guess.
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how about when he signs for 6.5 mill?
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not really a stats guy but who plays more PP time? Who faces tougher competition? Who has more o-zone starts?
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by happiergilmore on Feb 22, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
Dion has higher ES Pts/60. Phaneuf with more OZone starts, but also a better OZone finish-start. Suter higher shooting percentage on the season, Dion lower PDO.
I kinda just said Phaneuf because everyone was saying Suter – and I think it is surprisingly close when you’re just looking at offense – but Suter’s defensive play should put him over the edge between the two. I’ll tell you one thing, though: I’m slightly salivating at the prospect of both.
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oh shit I read Suter or Parise…..
er….I don’t know.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
Bobby Clarke is retired
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chara.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 22, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
agreed, Burke needs to try his hardest to keep Grabbo
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by CameronSorley on Feb 22, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
fuckin rutherford
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
/facepalm
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 22, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
Wow
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 22, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
lol canes
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Rutherford is spending money now. He tied down gleason as a top shutdown defender. And now ruutu. Maybe he is thinking if you have a decent player the grass is not greener in the UFA but 4.8M.
Well, the grass really is greener if you’re looking over Tuomo Ruutu’s fence. He just replaced all the grass with $100 bills.
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I was thinking about Connolly. It seems that many players that enter the UFA market are small money hungry forwards (cammarelli, richards), injured or injury prone players (connolly) and underachieving players (penner next year). There are a few good beauchi or macarthur but these players are often other teams problems
Cough Grabovski Cough
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 22, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
“Small money hungry forwards”?
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by BCapp on Feb 22, 2012 4:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They’re small because they didn’t eat their greens
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by T is for Truculence on Feb 22, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
That’s “Please don’t leave us” Money right there.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
I like that Carolina is keeping their team together
But I’m not sure I like this deal. He just turned 29. I might have gone higher salary, shorter term.
Still, I think you gusy are laughing at the Canes too much. They aren’t going to tear the team down, and I don’t see why they need too. Eric Staal had a bad year, if he bounces back and is a top guys again next year this team can make the playoffs.
Right, it’s not like they’re in 15th place, play Tim Brent (!!!) on the PP and are rolling Jiri Tlusty on their first line.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
they really should be selling everyting not named Skinner, Staal , Mcbain and Ward for the most they can get
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Usually a 15th place team realizes its a seller. Usually.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
WE SHOULD DO THAT TOO
Sell everything
not named Skinner, Staal , Mcbain and Ward
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by not norm ullman on Feb 22, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
If they sell everything, and Staal does bounce back, then they will need support guys… like Ruutu, Gleason etc.
The East is wide open, they can compete for a playoff spot next year. If they sell off all their supports they will be mired in shit, just like the Oilers (who are probably about to move their best possesion forward for lottery tickets).
if staal bounces back then he will have a great year on a shitty team and he and skinner will probably drag them out of the lotto
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
Staal is on pace for 66 pts, just about 8-10 lower than the last 3 years – hes really turned it around in the 2nd half.
Staal, Skinner, Lotto pick this year. Thats a good group to build around. They should be adding pieces not tearing it down.
not 30 year old expensive ass players
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
almost 29 years old and 4 million a year?
dumb deal for that team
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
That said, I have my reservations about this Ruutu deal. I don’t like the term. Would have gone more money less years.
more….money? for ruutu?
yikes
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
The guy can score. He just turned 29. Give him a Connoly style deal. 2 years.
Like I said, I have problems with the deal they did.
they should not have made either deal
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
More money for a 20 goal 50 points (on a good year)? At 30? Also he seems to have trouble staying healthy.
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by BCapp on Feb 22, 2012 4:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i have roast chicken
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
I have “small man hands”, not “lady fingers”.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 22, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Can I turn said lady fingers into Tiramisu?
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 22, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
only a true leaf fan turns a regular dessert into an alcoholic one.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Good hockey podcasts
Been listening to Marek vs. Wyshynski lately as well as Backhand Shelf. Are there any other worth listening to (outside of Dreger’s little snippets from TSN radio that get posted to Itunes)?
Always looking for more things to listen to….of course I do download the Leafsnation and PPP podcasts on the rare occasion they are out.
The G&M sports roundtable with Darren Yourk and friends is another good one.
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ah yes I forgot about that one. It’s a bit irregularly done, but i just listened to the one with the guy who wrote about GMs….Went to go check out his book and its 100$(!!!!!). Too rich for my blood.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Pfffttt I bought the limited edition Brian Burke Maple Leafs one for $160. Booyah!
/owww! my bank account!
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Please make a pdf of BB section and email it to us all
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 22, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
I’d love to pay for the book, and I think its really incredibly interesting but I draw a line at like 50$ for one book. Like seriously, did he make it out of endangered trees or something?
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
It’s like the necronomicon… the cover is human skin
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 22, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
side question….is the extra shit other than Burke’s signature good?
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
I think if BB was going to sign Grabbo at all he would have done it by now.
Every year someone gets signed to an inflated contract they don’t deserve and cause the market value to shift way up on guys
This isn’t Burke’s first rodeo, he knew this day was coming and now it’s all but a forgone conclusion. Deadline day or before he’s gonzo
every year Burke waits till the last to sign players, why should this be any different?
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
way closer to the cap then we’ve been in years. that should change the game drastically I would have to think
We have enough room to sign people right now.
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by BCapp on Feb 22, 2012 4:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hey remember when Burke signed Schenn AFTER training camp opened
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Point is he waited. Nothing is set in stone with Grabbo right now
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Boo. Fan shots don’t appear in the app.
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by elseldo on Feb 22, 2012 3:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
How ever are you going to look at the latest PPP Caricature? Someone needs to get on this… STAT!
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by CanadianMaple09 on Feb 22, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
I gotta say that handsome fellow with the shaved head and tie was well done
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Email the SBNation tech people. They will happily take the feedback (just be polite)
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by BCapp on Feb 22, 2012 4:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well, there goes my idea of a needlessly angry and abusive email.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Feb 22, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
OT - Lambert vs. Nader
An interesting ‘debate’ between the two regarding fighting and head shots.
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why is Ralph Nader talking about something he knows nothing about?
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
See: Every politician ever. Of. All. Time.
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 22, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
I should have thought through that sentence.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Actively listening on trade market…..no deals currently pending…..not looking for goaltending…..etc etc etc
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
You forgot
Don’t want to get into any bidding wars. Happy to stay the course if it means I don’t overpay.
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Basically your normal Burke platitudes that offer nothing of value. That’s okay, its part of the market, but yeah….not really interesting…
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
gotta think they ask about the goal tending.
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We’ve got a good young team……still developing…..believe in our goalies….can’t discuss contract negotiations with Grabbo….
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
Who’s got two thumbs and is going to the Hockey East semis/finals March 16/17??
THIS GUY /pointstoselfwiththumbs
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Followup fictional scenario:
If you had to choose one, and both were the same price/term, Grabovski or Hemsky? (I think I know how this one is going to go)
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I've heard both are going to get ~$5M in free agency.
Just seeing if there’s any anti-Grabbos or pro-Hemsky’s out there and why
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
slightly older, way more fragile but higher scoring winger vs 2 way centre
yeah
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
if Hemsky didnt have Boneitis he’d probably fetch some real nice assets.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
JOKE STEALER
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Hmm these are harder than I thought they'd be
Clarke MacArthur or Matt Moulson?
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
2 time thirty goal scorer Moulson and soon to be 3 time if he gets 5 goals in the remaining 20 or so games
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Bear in mind we wouldn’t have Tavares.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
I’d say both players have benefited from their centremen…….obviously Moulson has the better partner but still, 3 years in a row is no fluke at 14-15% shooting
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13-15 that is
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Macarthur has a better sh% and has also been consistent with it throughout his career.
Moulson is also 2 years older.
I’d probably give the edge to Moulson but it’s not as one-sided as before I looked a bit more at their numbers.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
I had no Idea Moulson is 2 years older than Phil Johnson
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well according to Wikipedia, the only Clarke’s are Bobby and Dale
by Nigel Cadbury on Feb 22, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
If you asked me two years ago I definitely say Hemsky.
Before this season? Probably Hemsky (he had been a top 30 winger when he could stay healthy (obviously not often enough).
Now? No question. Grabovski. Hemsky has finally been able to stay healthy and played horribly. Grabbo coming off two very good years.
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by BCapp on Feb 22, 2012 4:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Bobby Mac on TSN
Can’t overcome poor goaltending in the midst of a playoff push.
Sharks’ package starts with Joe Pavelski, but probably can’t match the offer the Rangers could put up for Nash. Lack the high-end prospect.
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Doesn’t look like LA will get Rick Nash. More likely to land Carter, maybe Hemsky.
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But then how will Toronto get Carter? It doesn’t make sense.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Kopitar, Richards, and Carter down the middle – repeat the “success” of the 2010 Flyers.
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Or Carter on the wing. I don’t think you can justify playing any of those guys on the 3rd line
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by happiergilmore on Feb 22, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Richards was on the third line in Philly last year. Behind Giroux and Briere. (Carter was on the wing on the top two lines).
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by BCapp on Feb 22, 2012 4:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
the sharks offering up pavelski for Nash when Havlat is returning soon?
dont make no sense to me
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
ya I don’t understand the need for Nash either if Havlat is coming back. That would be a lot of high priced players they’d have.
by Nigel Cadbury on Feb 22, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t get it. They have themselves nicely set up with todays core and tomorrows core. Don’t take away from tomorrows for a minor upgrade.
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by BCapp on Feb 22, 2012 4:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
they also dont have any real young assets that are not heavy contributors to the current team, so removing them will hurt the team, especially multiple ones, the trade would also have to be pick heavy, which I dont see interesting Columbus that much
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Pavelski 58GP 22G 24A, 27 years old, plays tough defensive minutes with great success, can also play well as a two way centre, signed for 2 more years after this one at 4mil
Nash 60GP 20G 22A, 27 Years old, is an awesome power forward who would definitley score more playing on Thornton’s wing, can’t play centre though, is signed at 7.8mil cap hit for 5 years
Havlat admittedly has negative value right now. He has been bad.
But I don’t know if I like this deal. Cotoure & Pavelski could be a damn good 1& 2 centre punch over the next few years as Thronton ages, and I bet both come cheaper than Nash.
Now, Nash > Pavelski? Sure. But I don’t know that he is better enough to make it worth it. All in all, I’d say it’s not a good idea for San Jose.
What if you looked at things the otherway?
We have an abundance of good defenceman
Schenn, Franson, Gunnarsson, Liles, Komisarek all have their strengths which may attract some clubs, and none of them are really untouchable unlike Phaneuf and Gardiner.
Which clubs are interested in acquiring a blueliner and what could they offer to help out the leafs?
Last year, Boston was the team who took Kaberle and we got a pretty good return on him.. I’m assuming Burke will probably try the same approach again.
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I’d put Gunnarson in the category of “nearly untouchable unless you blow our mind”.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
also Komi won’t fetch anything. Burke just re-signed Liles so evidently he isn’t trading him.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
I’m a big fan of Gunnarson, but I think he would probably get us the biggest return of those 5 listed.
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Gunnar would probably get us a lot but also leave our defense awful.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Evidence: Every game he was gone this past week or so.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
What if Gunnar was packaged for a #1 goalie?
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goalies i would trade gunnar for, Price, Rinne, Rask, Quick
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
he isnt proven to be that valuble
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t disagree, but can you elaborate?
by JohnerstonRex on Feb 22, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
as said below, he has faced over 200 shots less than Reimer at an NHL level and only has a 0.008 percent better career save percentage on a far superior team
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
I would add a couple
Schneider, Halak (probably), Hiller (probably), Lundy (would never happen), Ward (would never happen)
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by BCapp on Feb 22, 2012 5:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Corey Schneider has fewer shots against than James Reimer, and just a .008 better career save percentage. TSN was the best thing that ever happened to Corey Schneider’s career.
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0.008 is a pretty large difference. As well he does that include playoffs? And Cory Schneider won the AHL goalie of the year a couple of years ago IIRC. He has more AHL experience than Reimer too.
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Cory Schneider has never played more than 25 games in a season, and he’s on one of the best teams in the league. Throwing anything of substance at a goalie with only 57 career games and no experience as a starter is just fucking stupid, especially when their numbers are likely being influenced by being on a strong team.
Toskala only had 110 games total prior to being traded here. His most active season he played 38 games and had a .908. I can’t believe I convinced myself he was going to be our answer in net.
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This is why I firmly say “No more trading for back-up goalies regardless of how awesome we think they might be if they have an incredibly small number of NHL games played”
Seriously trading for a Schneider or Bernier who has never played regularly at an NHL level is like taking a shot on a a certain San Jose back up who looked pretty good with the Sharks
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 22, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
Lundqvist, Halak, Backstrom, Hiller.
I’ll probably be in the minority, but I’d consider Pavelec and the only prospect who would make my list: Markstrom. Also, I love Rinne, but I’m terrified of that contract.
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Hillers recent issues terrify me, not totally sold on Backstrom for some reason
Lundqvist makes almost 7 million a year, but he is damned good….yeah i do that
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, I get the Hiller concern. Personal bias probably help him crack the list.
Backstrom always seems like the kinda guy who would bomb if he went to another team, but I’d do it. He only has one major failure of a season, and the team wasn’t very good that year.
Can’t wait to see Lundqvist’s new contract. Given Rinne’s, it should be sky high.
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If the Wild give up on playoffs they may want to dump salary and hopefully Backstrom (or Harding). The big salary would be useful if they are in the Team Parise sweepstakes. Tin Foil Conspiracy I know.
And after seeing Bryz, I’m worried about how some goaltenders seem to shrivel under run and gun.
I could see why no goalie would want to play for the leafs = even Thomas or Lundquist would find themselves solidly out of the vezina running on the leafs. .
Flip side
When and you become a god. We still talk about Potvin in hushed tones, and Cujo was so amazing that we are willing to largely forget his fairly uninspiring second stint. If someone actually backstopped the Leafs to a cup, they probably would get a legitimate statue. I’d trade a Vezina for a statue.
No way they move Backstrom…. for anything less than a haul.
Even as an “older” goalie (33) he’s pretty damn good.
Career .918, throwing up a .924 this year.
$6M cap hit though… wow.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
HARDING!
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He seems like an okay choice but again, he’s always been a backup. He could be the next Craig Anderson as a decent starter or the next Rick Dipietro with all those injuries.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
He was supposed to be Minni’s goalie of the future, but when their starter of the time got injured (Manny Fernandez) he did to, so their random UFA free agent goalie of the summer got some start times (Backstrom) and never looked back.
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You cannot overpay for good goaltending. The only reason his contract scares me is his age.
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You cannot be sure you’re going to get historical goaltending when you overpay though.
i.e. Toskala
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
I am talking about overpaying a guy with history of starter load and elite level play (Rinne). Paying out the ear to acquire a guy without a history of a starter is another thing (and now I am starting to see the comparison between Toskala and Schneider :( )
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Dan Ellis looked great in Nashville too!
I just hate that there doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason behind getting a good goalie. Everything is such a huge risk. Trade for a Calder winner? Lose Rask. Trade 1st+ for a guy with solid numbers? Ends up being the worst goalie in a century. Develop within? Who knows if Reimer is anything real.
It’s fucking lose/lose/lose/lose… gotta get lucky.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
Chris Mason did as well
At least we didn’t have to give up any significant assets for our mediocre to bad goaltending this time around. Personally, I’m too afraid of more Raycroft/Toskala type trades unless we’re going for someone really established
by Holidays in the Sundin on Feb 22, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
Nabokov still seems too obvious not to be kicking tires.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
Ellis’ great season was 44 GP I guess. Rinne has looked great with a starters load for a few seasons.
But yeah I know exactly what you mean.
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Before Rinne signed that first extension, a lot of people were thinking it was a coinflip between the two and weren’t sure which one NSH should re-sign.
Nashville chose correctly it seems.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
For a number one goalie (greater than 0.915 in more than 3 of the last 4 years) locked in for more than 2 more years (or next contract RFA) and under 28? Sure.
Otherwise? Probably not.
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by BCapp on Feb 22, 2012 5:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
and kessel would get a bigger return than all of them
doesnt mean burke should trade him
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
but he's close to peaking, got to trade him now while he's people will still want him
by Nigel Cadbury on Feb 22, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t imagine it is more than he is worth to this club. Since we have traded Beauchemin (I love the return), he is our only reliable defender not named Phaneuf.
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by BCapp on Feb 22, 2012 4:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Don’t. Move. Gunnar.
Did you see our defense last week without him? Horrible!! Gunnar is one of our best players and probably our best paid player. KEEP HIM.
As goosemonster pointed out Liles was just resigned, and Komi has negative value.
Afterthat sure, I would listen to offers on Franson and Schenn.
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by BCapp on Feb 22, 2012 4:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I would listen to offers for everyone, but i wouldnt expect to hear anything interesting for anyone but schenn and franson
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
Of course, I would too. I worded that poorly.
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by BCapp on Feb 22, 2012 5:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He isn\t even up for a new contract until the end of next year, and he’s an RFA! Unless someone blows our mind by offering a ridiculously good player for him….he shouldnt move.
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
Leafs don’t have a lot of “good” defencemen, the Leafs have 2 good defencemen (Phaneuf, Gunnar) one young guy who’s improving quickly (Gardiner) and a whole bunch of guys who aren’t much better than 5th or 6th defenders right now. Leafs should be looking to add on the blueline, at least at the top end.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 22, 2012 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
you give me an opening to post a kinks video, i take it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gz8BurL50k
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by daoust on Feb 22, 2012 5:08 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
man
typing up trade proposals is a great way to assess how drunk one is. i was just about to type a post, until i realized how insane it sounded, and i realized i was totally trashed.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 22, 2012 5:10 PM EST reply actions
I love this place. because apparently no body questions the fact that I’m drunk at 4 in the afternoon….
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 22, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
ive been drunk since noon!
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
cheers!
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 22, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
I was wondering that. A reason?
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the leafs are horrible. my life is in shambles. beer is ample and ubiquitous.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 22, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
What about the Flyers fan?
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what about?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 22, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
ah
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 22, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, no one judges anyone around here. Unless you make a dumb trade proposal or display an ignorance of advanced stats.
There’s definitely something great about an afternoon drunk. This is part of your ‘mourning’ phase I’m assuming?
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yeah. i thought i was doing OK today. until i downed two large 7.0% AVB beers at 3:00.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 22, 2012 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
hang in there buddy. and don’t let your afternoon-drunk mourning phase last too long. you’ve got young university minds to shape still.
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not until january. until then i’m basically no different than a 3rd year undergrad: single, lonely, and drunk most of the time.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 22, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Are you in the US or back in Canada?
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still in the US
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 22, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
were you following me around in third year or somethin’?
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by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 22, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Bouncing Ideas
What gets Halak out of St. Louis?
Going nuts, what gets Halak and the much maligned Chris Stewart out of St. Louis?
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if they move any goalie not named Bishop, it will be Elliot, selling high like a mother fucker
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
oh yeah, huh, well i dont see them trading Halak after one good year of elliot
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Behind that team though, they could. A .910 goalie would still have under a 2.34GAA. That’s Carey Price and Pekka Rinne numbers man.
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probable, but to answer your origional question?
Halak = Kadri + 2nd + prospect like Mckegg
+ Stewart= +Kulemin and a Holzer prospect
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
That much for Halak? I dunno… he originally cost Lars Eller. Has his value gone up to Kadri+picks/prospects level?
I’d do Stewart for Kulemin straight up.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
His value absolutely has.
I’m thinking MacArthur+Scrivens+1st for Halak.
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Wow.
I might to get .915 goaltending, but I’m not so sure he’d give us that outside of a Jacques Martin or whats-his-face in STL system
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
Either way
that’s offseason talk probably. No way they move either one of Elliott or Halak when they’re positioned for a solid run this year.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
Is it Toronto? Please say Toronto
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
I see no reason they trade him right now, in the middle of the season. If they really want to gear up for this run (which they shouldn’t because there core is so young), they can trade picks. I just don’t see them trading their starter right now.
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WOAH
I totally misread that Ruutu deal. I didn’t realize he got that much. I was thinking 4.75-5 a year for 2 years would have been good. I didn’t realize he got that much over 4!!
Yeah, bad move Carolina.
Ahh I can't get radio at work
But Burke is apparently on TSN 1050 right now.
Some one tell me if he says anything awesome
No no, dig UP stupid.
Sell, baby, sell.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
asked about if last night changed what he needs to do about goaltending:
it “might” have, but still maintains that gus “saved” the season
s •
claims there is no deal on the table for rick nash, but says if there was a deal on the table and he admitted it, he would be tampering
s •
was in NYC and met with Howson by coincidence… was there to do some shooting for HBO – was asked if the HBO had anything to do with 24/7, said that was “classified”
OMGOMGOMGOMG
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says Nonis talks to a lot of the GMs that don’t like Burke, especially the younger ones, claims he’s a “nicer guy than I am”
s •
in response to perceived hostility between Burke and other GMs…
“you guys [media] start all of this…..crap”
s •
- prior to this season did not have sufficient assets to blame coach for lack of success
- points to improved PK as a sign of greater execution by the players of Wilson’s PK
s •
“coaching change is not something we’re contemplating at this point in time”
" we expect to make the playoffs"
and if you don’t?
“that’s none of your business”
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asked if he’s giving anything up for Lent, said he does his abstinence month earlier than usual, in January – didn’t drink any alcohol for all of january hahahaha
end interview
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Thanks a lot for this. Good stuff. Gotta listen to the podcast version later tonight.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
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Burke, especially after last night, seemed a little bit more open to doing something about the goaltending. Says that it would have to help now to be something worth pursuing
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doubt it is reactionary in the sense that he only started looking after last night, he’s probably just letting out some info for his own purposes
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 22, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
I can only imagine how frustrating this is for Burke. Like you mentioned earlier, it’s not like he hasn’t made an effort to address goaltending, between Gus, Reimer, Allaire, etc. And what if he had gone out instead and signed Bryz to a long-term deal in the offseason, and Bryz shat the bed here like he has in Philly?
Bottom line, goaltending is fucking voodoo.
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I feel like this is an appropriate place to post this
Fuck Graham James. Piece of garbage.
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Isn’t he getting sentenced today? Or was sentenced?
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This is a tweet.
It’s pieces of shit that led to the I’m 1in5 campaign and more. Beyond ridiculous that he was pardoned in the first place
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
Are you aware that pardons are extremely common in Canada and that the vast, vast majority of people who are pardoned don’t re-offend?
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Feb 22, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
“I’m sorry Mr. Judge, never do it again”
Sorry but that doesn’t give any closure to the victim.
A would have a signature but I am forced to watch this crap.
agreed but victims’ views are only one aspect of a good criminal justice system
by Goosemonster on Feb 22, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
I am but it’s just my belief that certain crimes/criminals shouldn’t be given that right.
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
He was a re-offender at the time though. He had already served 18 months in jail for sexual abuse, of a 3 and a half year sentence.
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This is a tweet.
I guess that’s not correct, he didn’t (as far as I am aware) re-offend after he was let out of jail. All the charges come from long before.
"If you've ever questioned whether or not @dboyce47 is a gamer, well, the answer is as plain as the nose that used to be on his face." - Sean Boulton
This is a tweet.
How do I support the campaign? I couldn’t find a link in your fanpost.
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There should have been a facebook link at the bottom. Either way if not here it is That’s all there is to do. From there you can receive updates on the going ons and everything. Every bit of support helps.
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I am on that facebook page but am still unsure as how to donate. Maybe I am just oblivious.
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Oh I’m sorry. Wasn’t aware that’s what you meant. Email Paulie O’Byrne at 1in5tour@hotmail.ca. He’ll point you in the right direction.
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Thanks!
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Well whaddya sxpect, no Mike Weaver.
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by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 22, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
We’ll take him!!!
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I would think that if Burke is going after a new goalie he would wait for the off season. If he wants a veteran playoff goalie then now is the time. And yes I don’t see how Lindback helps in that.
Disagree.
Lindback’s an RFA at the end of the season, so there’s just as much commitment here as there would be adding a pending UFA. If he sucks cut him loose.
The key difference is that Lindback is 24 and hasn’t/won’t got a chance of becoming the starter in Nashville now that they’ve committed to Rinne long-term (and they have a prospect named Jeremy Smith whose numbers in the AHL are pretty decent). If you get a 35 year old either you’ll get what you exepct or he’ll be broken down. Get the 24 year old and you might just grab him before he makes the leap.
Basically, I’d rather give up something to get Lindback than Nabokov.
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Hey if we keep gambling on somewhat unproven goalies who look like they’ll be good… we have to get at least a league average goalie at some point what?
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 22, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
what right
not even close there
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 22, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll take my chances on a 24 year old coming out of Nashville’s goalie factory.
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Other than Rinne what goalies have come out of Nashville?
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 22, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
Vokoun
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by Killer Sundin on Feb 22, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Rinne, Vokoun, MIke Dunham, Chris Mason, Dan Ellis
For a team that’s not old enough to drive, 5 goalies with over 100 career games is pretty damn impressive.
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Vokoun was a Montreal draft pick that nashville got in the expansion draft
Mike Dunham: Career .908 in 394 GP
Dan Ellis: Career .908 in 165 GP
Chris Mason: .911 in 302 GP (so I’ll accept him)
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 22, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
And how many goalies have the Leafs developed over that time?
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That we drafted? Rask… Remier’s short career save % is roughly equal to Mason’s…
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 22, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
shit Reimer not Remier
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 22, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
What did the Toronto Maple Leafs have to do with Rask’s success at the NHL level? He never played a single game inside the organization.
Don’t get hung up on who drafted the guy. Who developed him is the only thing that matters.
Nashville devleoped all those guys
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I will give you Rask not being attributable to the Leafs… I thought there was more time between us drafting him and trading him
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 22, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
You’re not actually suggesting that Montreal gets credit for Tomas Vokoun just because they drafted him, right?
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Nashville developed Vokoun. Full stop.
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he was drafted at 18 in 1994. He didn’t get to Nasville until June 1998. 4 years are attributable to Montreal…
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 22, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
This went down a bizarre tangent.
I’d want the Leafs to acquire Lindback if the price was right.
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I do too for what its worth… I was actually being serious that we have to end up with a decent goalie if we keep taking guys that while unproven have a lot of upside.
I was just saying that Nashville obviously developed Rinne, but it’s not like they just crank out .930+ goalies
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 22, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
His numbers this year are pretty underwhelming
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by happiergilmore on Feb 22, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
Lindback’s?
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by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 22, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
.897 in 10 games.
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by happiergilmore on Feb 22, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that’s underwhelming alright.
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by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 22, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
and .879 in 2 AHL games
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by happiergilmore on Feb 22, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
Wow Hockey reference doesn’t have his Europe stats.. but the highest number he’s put up in NA is .915
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 22, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
Hope these help.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=94541
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=3769
(Hockey reference is great for NA hockey, but meh for Europe.)
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Ok so he hasn’t put up anything over a .915 any time in the last 4 years in Europe or NA?
Nevermind… don’t really want…
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 22, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Does anybody crank out .930 goalies? I mean, unless you count Finland
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by T is for Truculence on Feb 22, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
league average for starters is .915? Then they don’t even turn those out with much regularity
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 22, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think you can dismiss Vokoun………..sure he was drafted by the Canadiens but he played 1 NHL game for them and his numbers weren’t exactly stellar in their farm system with a >3GAA and 904% average. Most of his development occurred as a Pred
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Chris Mason was a legitimate starter for 2 years in St. Louis. But yeah, you more or lessed hit the nail on the head.
I am still impressed that in 14 seasons the Preds have developed:
2 all star starters (Vokoun and Rinne)
1 1b goalie (Chris Mason)
2 backups (Ellis, Dunham)
The Leafs in that time? We have developed:
Unknown: Reimer
Maybe a backup: Gustavsson
Not even a backup: Reese, Tellqvist
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I would say we had nothing to do with Gus’ development as a goalie
by pho king awesome on Feb 22, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely stretching it. Further proves my point though.
They have been impressive in developing what they have.
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Reese? as in Jeff?
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by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 22, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
cuz Jeff Reese would qualify under “leaf goalies developed around the same time as Peter Ing.”
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by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 22, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
When Tennessee didn’t have a football team, let alone a hockey team.
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by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 22, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
MAKE IT STOP
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by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 22, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
We are a goalie factory, I don’t know what you want me to do!
by Leaf in Habland on Feb 22, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
I feel like he must mean Pogge
by Holidays in the Sundin on Feb 22, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah that makes sense, maybe he was eating a Reese’ peanut butter cup at the time.
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by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 22, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Ellis. For what that’s worth.
"I myself am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."
Know what's kind of funny?
Dan Ellis has thrown up a .915 since being traded to Anaheim.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
I think it was Bower Power that pointed out he has a serious medical condition. Adult onset Stills disease IIRC. I am not sure how that would effect a team making a commitment on him.
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it’s been almost four years since he was diagnosed, I’d imagine the team trading for him would have to have access to all his medical history to see how he’s been affected so far.
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A VERY quick skim of the literature
Suggests to me that he is likely completely in the clear. The research I have found suggests that 34% just have it once, with another 1/3 having it intermittently. The final 1/3 have it contniuous for longer than a year. Considering it is a form of arthritis I have to imagine it has not been active, thus he probably just had it once. Obviously I don’t have nearly enough information so this is mostly conjecture.
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I’ve seen a few patient’s with JRA, but all of them have been children. For the record, though, the vast majority were able to lead active, normal lives. If you’re going to have a reactive arthritis, JRA/Still’s seems to be one of the more functional types to have…
For sure but there is a difference between “active, normal lives” and “professional athlete”. Still you appear to know more about rheumatology than I do.
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there is a difference between "active, normal lives" and "professional athlete".
Absolutely. Just pointing out (as you did) that most cases of the actual arthritis are relatively acute. I’m definitely no rheumatologist, though.
We need to reach out to other medical professionals and develop a Barilkosphere medical team to answer these types of questions.
I have a bunch of rheumatology lectures in the next couple of days ironically enough. What is your medical professional background out of curiosity?
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Cool. That field has been fascinating me recently.
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I do work for The Arthritis Society, so I might be able to help a bit with that too… Still’s does seem to have a relatively high recovery rate, but from the Still’s and JIA situations I’m most familiar with, the flare ups can be quite debilitating. Medication has come a long long way though as well, so that definitely helps in the treatment and recovery
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by BetterThanBester on Feb 22, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
He might be real good. RFA behind Rinne? He might want a trade out.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh Toskala at least put up a season of .930 (in 28 GP granted) before we traded for him… Lindback hasn’t even come close to that in the NHL or AHL
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 22, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
.915 in 22 games last year… too small a sample size.
Not great numbers this year.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
How is Ottawa this good?
How is Washington this bad?
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 22, 2012 8:39 PM EST reply actions
Ottawa: Good goaltending, a defense which is keeping up and pretty darn good seasons from Old Man Alfie, Karlsson and Spezza.
Washington: Teams a mess with bad goaltending. I really don’t know more than that.
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Nothing like going four goals down to motivate you.
And I should say, Vokuon hasn’t be bad, but he’s had really inconsistent runs. His start was great, he’s had long stretches of mediocrity from there.
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Still he is .920 average. With that the leafs would be challenging the bruins for the division. Something else has to be wrong on that team.
Their offense can’t get it done.
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
they are middle of the pack in offense per game at 14th but are 20th in terms of GA per game
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Their offense is skewed by their early production
They’ve been pretty poor offensively for a while.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
First 10 games
GP â–´ Opponent
1 Carolina Hurricanes
2 Tampa Bay Lightning
3 Pittsburgh Penguins
4 Ottawa Senators
5 Florida Panthers
6 Philadelphia Flyers
7 Detroit Red Wings
8 Edmonton Oilers
9 Vancouver Canucks
10 Anaheim Ducks
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
yep, not so great recently in that graphic
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Charts are awesome that way
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
also from behind the net
There shots for/against are way down as well and PDO is in the second graph
They really really really miss Backstrom and Green
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
Leafs over the season
They never seem to outshoot their competition (and PDO might have finished regressing I hope)
Well, when your captain, franchise player and face of your team is a pouty, whiny bitch, why should anyone have to put in a consistent effort?
by LeafInVancouver on Feb 22, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
Much as I hate the Sens, it amuses me I can say, “My nation’s capital is beating up your nation’s capital.”
by LeafInVancouver on Feb 22, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, yes it was. I spent as much of it outside as possible.
by LeafInVancouver on Feb 22, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
Drove 30 miles in the beautiful weather, drove through a rain shower and two beautiful patches of blue sky. The Pacific Northwest is wonderful….
So to clarify
What do we need?
Goaltending. Duh.
Defense? We have 6 good players, that don’t amount to a good defense. Collectively they are probably not as great defensively as we need, but without the offense they provide do we still have the scoring power we are relying on to make any sort of playoff push whatsoever?
Forwards? The mythical first line centre of some sort… and a top 6 power forward who could perhaps also be the first line centre? Then we need defensively responsible, penalty killing forward types?
All in all, I don’t even know where to begin, outside of getting a goalie who knows how close his legs/catch a puck/not play dodgeball in net. I feel like our success (8th place) is an outcome of a weird mix that could be screwed up very easily. I guess that’s why I’m not an NHL GM
SAUCED
Everett, home of the Silvertip! Whatever the hell that is. Dad is from Halifax and came out in ‘72. I’m shocked how well actually the area has taken to hockey. My only concern is that if an NHL team comes in the area, what will happen to both Seattle and Everett’s WHL teams. I’m just grateful that CBC has always been broadcast in this area. 4 PM Saturday is Hockey Night in my house.
4-2 caps…perreault scores, grabbo style.
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Curtis Sanford has been activated off of the IR
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
All it took was mathematical elimination.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 22, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What about Kipper?
Flames might miss the playoffs again, and I’d so I could see a serious sellfest going on our west this summer. Kiprusoff is getting older, but only has 2 years remaining on his contract and still plays at a high level.
Reimer as backup, or trade Gus for Brent Johnson – straight up.
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