Did a hockey website leak Leafs trade interests?
by birky on Feb 23, 2012 10:16 AM EST
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PrintWhat an amazing day today w/ @danglemedia as we shadowed Leafs GM Brian Burke (all day!). Feature pops up in next month's issue!
On Tuesday, David Pagnotta and others from the hockey magazine The Fourth Period shadowed Brian Burke all day for a future article. That piece should be interesting in itself, but a few other of Dave's tweets from the day got me thinking: what did they hear from the Leafs GM regarding the trade deadline?
Still grinding away, shadowing TOR GM Burke all day for new mag piece. Back in his office. Some calls (chill ppl, nothing close) & paperwork
Regarding Leafs... Irons in fire, but at this exact moment nothing is close. Can change quickly, tho. Lots of talk with multiple clubs.
Without direct confirmation from anyone at TFP, it's impossible to know how much information regarding those "irons in the fire" they were privy to. But using their website, could it be possible to connect the dots? Maybe so. Follow along after the jump.
The Fourth Period maintains a top 25 list of available players running up to the trade deadline. This list is updated every few days. While I have never played close attention to it in the past, I have been aware of its existence. The news that TFP was shadowing Brian Burke for a full day so close to the trade deadline made me wonder: will the top 25 list change after their day with the Leafs President & GM? The answer seems to be yes.
Here is the google cached version of the top 25 list from 2/17/12.
And here is the newest version, updated 2/22/12 (after the day with Burke).
Notice any changes? I did. On the 17th, the Leafs were thought to be in on Rick Nash, Bobby Ryan, Ales Hemsky, Paul Stastny, and Alexander Semin.
On the 22nd, the Leafs were thought to be in on Nash, Ryan, Hemsky, Jeff Carter, James van Riemsdyk, Stastny, Antoine Vermette, Ryan Malone, and if you look way down at the bottom, Josh Harding. Also note that Luke Schenn is listed, and the number of teams interested in his services increases from three to four (to include the Blue Jackets) on the 22nd.
| 17-Feb | 22-Feb |
| Nash | Nash |
| Ryan | Ryan |
| Hemsky | Hemsky |
| Stastny | Carter |
| Semin | JvR |
| Stastny | |
| Vermette | |
| Malone | |
| Harding |
Now, did the list change because of the meeting with Burke? Impossible for me to know. But it's fun to speculate anyways.
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It’s surprising to me that the early list didn’t include JVR and Malone, considering how public Burke’s interest has been. Also, I’d guess that he kicked the tires on Vermette and didn’t want to match Phoenix’s deal. I think I’m okay with that.
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Curtis McElhinney was part of the package for Vermette. There can’t be that many goalies in the league with a worse career SV% than Gustavsson; how does McElhinney keep finding interested teams?
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by Back In Black on Feb 23, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
contract limit move, no one wanted McElhinney
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 23, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Him and Dominic Moore probably have a running bet on who can be traded to the most teams.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Easy: reserve lists. Phoenix was only at 49, but Columbus was at 47. By exchanging McElhinney for Vermette, they stay that way. Also, by moving McElhinney, there’s a space open on the Portland Pirates when Visentin’s CHL team ends. So they’ll get him a little AHL playing time without burning an ELC year.
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by Bower Power on Feb 23, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
Also McElhinney is out for the year with injury so its also a $$ thing, a SPC thing and a who the eff cares thing.
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by WizardofNaz on Feb 23, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, didn’t hear he was done for the season. Shoots the Visentin edge, then.
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by Bower Power on Feb 23, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Also with the way Visentin is playing he could lead the Ice Dogs deep into the playoffs…
and I guess having Strome both Hamiltons and Oleksiak doesn’t hurt their chances either…
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by WizardofNaz on Feb 23, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
WOOOOOOOO!
aggozino and freisen are no slouches either. going to be a long spring. only way Vizzer plays in Portland is if they go to the Calder cup final.
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by elseldo on Feb 23, 2012 3:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The fact they didn’t have JVR listed before is shocking, he’s been tied to the Leafs for over a year now.
Although he did come back from a concussion in between those 2 lists so that could be a factor.
Malone was rumoured by others in between the 2 lists so I’m guessing that’s where that one came from. Also the fact Burke might be okay with Carters contract adding him to the list.
Vermette Harding and no more Semin I think could’ve come from following Burke however
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Probably still out with a concussion at that time
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by BCapp on Feb 23, 2012 10:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Why why why why why why why why why
are there no defensemen on either list?
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Poile: No.
Burke: Seriously? I was completely being dishonest there… but seriously?
Poile: No.
Burke: errr… OK, goodbye. <hangs up, looks at other options> Fuck it, I’m getting Nash.
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 23, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Get Carter you say?
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by SkinnyFish on Feb 23, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Get Carter, great movie. Not so sure about the player, is it an off year because he’s playing in Columbus or injuries? Or is it he’s taken more time to recover, because he’s in Columbus. And what does it mean for memes – he was in Columbus in November when it mattered….
he’s on a 30 goal 50 point pace on the worst team in the NHL after spending time out with a broken foot and a separated shoulder.
his down year is because of injuries, but he hates it in columbus
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 23, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
How to piss a player off
Sign him to a long-term contract with a no-trade clause, then trade him to a crappy team before the clause comes into effect.
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by Back In Black on Feb 23, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
I’d say if it were a direct swap for Komi… but even then Malone’s contract is longer
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 23, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Worth it
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by BCapp on Feb 23, 2012 10:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I’m divided on this… is Malone more useful than Komi? Yes. Would I rather have neither of them on books ASAP? Yes.
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 23, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
OH DEAR GOD NOT SEMIN
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THERE’S SEMIN EVERYWHERE.
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by birky on Feb 23, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
exactly this.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Feb 23, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
If we made that trade, we’d have to retire both “BCWW” and “TWSS” as memes around here to avoid a rash of carpal tunnel syndrome breaking out.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 23, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
Then let Semin walk at the end of the season is fine by me.
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Pretty much.
Although he has 24 points in his last 25 games. Best performing Capital right now.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
NSH should be kicking tires for him as a rental if WSH waves the white flag on the season.
Then trade us Vokoun.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
Semin is perfect for Nashville’s rental needs.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Feb 23, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Thats nice, I still would not want him on the leafs. I really dislike Alexander Semin.
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Oh absolutely and there’s no way he fits in with the team both style-wise or cap-wise or long-term building-wise
Just seems like a too perfect situation for Nashville. They need offense, expiring contract, WSH may not re-sign him at the end of the season and want to get something for him…. not many teams can take on (or want to take on) that kind of contract.
NSH had a ton of success with Sergei Kostitsyn so far. Might work out really well as a rental for Nashville.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
So basically if we can offload Komisarek for either Malone or Semin, we do it. Right?
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by blindfolded tank driver on Feb 23, 2012 10:45 AM EST reply actions
I’d say yes to Semin. Would have to think about Malone.
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I’d almost want to get rid of two bad contracts before picking up Malone. Komisarek + Lombardi?
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by Back In Black on Feb 23, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
If we trade komisarek for malone, it means a forward is getting dealt somewhere else doesn’t it?
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likely, maybe Lombardi or Armstrong for a bag of cap space or picks.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Feb 23, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
please note I didn’t say good picks.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Feb 23, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Why would WSH take Komisarek for Semin? He’s an expiring contract.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
I never said they would, McPhee might be get shot for that.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Feb 23, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Despite Semin's poor rep and high cap hit, he's still a pretty good hockey player.
If – and I’m still not sure it will happen – WSH becomes sellers before Monday, they could still get a decent rental haul.
Problem is it will for sure be a “rental” trade. Not sure many teams believe they can keep him around long term. The guy seems to sign 1 year contracts and is prime for a KHL bolting.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
he really feels primed to bolted to the KHL.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Feb 23, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Kind of too bad – he’s pretty talented, but at the same time it’s not my team’s player, so fuck that guy
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
maybe maybe not. Everyone assumes an unhappy russian player is going to go to the KHL, but Semin just may not like playing with WSH anymore. I wouldn’t be suprised given how bad they’ve been this season relative to their roster.
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
he’s already ran back to Russia once, that’s probably why people think he’ll do it again.
by Nigel Cadbury on Feb 23, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Я не люблю Semin. Слишком липко.
by MikhailGrabovski on Feb 23, 2012 10:47 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
Семин является для изготовления мало Грабовский хоккейной команды
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 23, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
That was portugese you insensitive nincompoop!
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geesh, so typical of white people to think Spanish and Portugese are one in the same!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 23, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Stastny intrigues me. We discussed him a lot last year….he’s cooled off this year. High cap hit, so we’d have to send salary back, but Im not even sure Colorado will part with him…
I’m confident if it happened Burke would get a decent price.
When was the last time Colorado won a trade? Feels like forever.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Also while he’s worth a lot he’s down in terms of points this season. So they aren’t selling high. They have defenders, especially puck movers, but maybe they want a young potential shut-down guy. Maybe Schenn in a package?
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
they would want much much much more than schenn
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 23, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Patrick Roy or Ray Bourque
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by elseldo on Feb 23, 2012 3:12 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
well, actually 2 decades ago if you count this decade as one.
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
more expensive in every sense of the word than Carter
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 23, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
duh, I’d also rather have him than carter
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
<3 Carter <3 too
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Colorado has to pay Duchene, Mueller, Downie, O’Reilly, and Johnson this offseason.
They might want to dump him
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 23, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
only if someone offers them the moon
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 23, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Just wondering how they’re going to pay all these guys as a team on a budget. Someone will have to go.
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
the only forwards they have signed passed this year are Stastny, Kobasew and Landeskog, so they have an insane amount of free cap, there is no rush
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 23, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
yeah but they’re on a budget, several of those young guys are up for big raises (especially Duchene) so its not like they’re spending remotely close to the cap. They’re a floor team right now. No rush, but I think Stastny is more available than say, last year, when we last rosterbated about him.
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
RFA’s
they have no significant UFA’s to sign so costs will remain in control, the only wild card might be Hejduk, but all signs point to him talking low money to stay
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 23, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
yeah but they’re near the salary floor, if they trade him they need at least 4 million back, I do believe. So it couldnt just be picks/prospects.
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think we have what they would want now, but we could make a run for him at the draft.
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by WizardofNaz on Feb 23, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t know who we have that Colorado would be interested in… They would want expiring contracts for the $$ portion which we don’t have aside from Grabo.
I think the best bet would be make a run at him at the draft not now.
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by WizardofNaz on Feb 23, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
I’d put very little faith in anything on that list. The Leafs aren’t interested in rentals like Hemsky or Semin. Not only are they rentals, but they don’t fit what everyone (including Burke) says the Leafs are after – size up front. The list also has Boston and Vancouver listed as teams interested in Nash, even though we know Boston isn’t and it’s extremely unlikely that Vancouver would be either.
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no way in hell Boston is interested in Nash for what they asset price is, they dont need him
can’t really say Vancouver needs him either
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 23, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
I love the rumoured asking prices for Nash from the speculation/media.
Rask+Hamilton+1st?
Seguin? hahahaha
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
I never got why they were linked to him – either team. For that matter I don’t even get why NYR would want him but whatever. Sure, trade away 3 players to get one guy that’s paid more than he’s worth.
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
contender with assets, that is the only reason
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 23, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
BOS has lost quite a bit of offense with Peverley/Horton injured, Krejci producing poorly, etc.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Obviously Nash isn’t the answer though.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, but even with the offence gone, they can still win with the defence, and taking on Nash’s contract would do them no good in the future, if they get a scoring player it will be a guy like hemsky or semin, pure rental
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 23, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
If nash was a UFA? they’d be all over him, but he isnt, so they wont
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 23, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
yeah but I also meant in terms of assets.
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
if they wanted they could put together a nice little package of non-essential parts (similar to the Kaberle deal) that could land them nash
lets say Knight, Spooner, a 1st a 2nd and Pouliot or something
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 23, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
I think they have to include a young roster player instead of a guy like Spooner. The only guy I can think of is Marchand but he is having a great year (better than Nash)
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by BCapp on Feb 23, 2012 12:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Also keep in mind that Burke has been talked to by the league before about tampering because of that one TV special where they mentioned certain players on the Canucks by name. Doubt he’d be stupid enough to let some rumour guys in on that kind info, knowing that he could be given a hefty fine if/when the info gets out.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 23, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
that one TV special where they mentioned certain players on the Canucks by name.
That was Wilson. What a dummy.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
No. Wilson mentioned the Sedins on a radio show. Wilson mentioned sedins in a trade discussion
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errr That second Wilson should be Burke
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Really? I honestly didn't know that. I thought it was Wilson only that called them by name.
I thought Burke just did that “ho hum I just so happen to be in Sweden on July 1” thing
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
2009 draft. It was shown on the Behind the Draft special
Story
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Was that really tampering though?
He was talking to other GMs and that special wasn’t aired for quite some time after it happened. GMs must talk to each other about players by name all the time.
The league really talked to him about tampering for that?
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
You can’t publically mention interest in players under contract.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 23, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Between GMs? How do they talk about players? Inuendo?
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
It wasn’t “public” at the time though – that’s what I’m saying.
It was the draft floor and the footage wasn’t released for months (years?) after the names were brought up.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
So they wanted Burke mic’d up but didn’t want him meantioning players by name to other GMs on the draft floor?
That seems like entrapment more than anything. What the fuck was he going to say?
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
it was in their suite. They shouldn’t have put it in the final product.
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Sorry I thought it was on the draft floor.
I dunno, I think it’s blown out of proportion. He didn’t mention the Leafs had interest, or that he was trying to land them.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
It’s one thing for Burke to make the comment in his war room. That’s fair game. It’s another entirely to allow it to air. And it wasn’t buried in the piece. The comment was basically the opening item. It seems over the top, even for Burke
What’s the statute of limitations on when you’re allowed to publish footage that you mentioned another player’s name to a GM on the draft floor?
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
When that player is not currently under contract.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 23, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
The reason, basically, is that it can mess with a team when you start throwing out in the press that “Gillis wanted us to take Chris Higgins back as part of the trade” or whatever. Now Chris Higgins thinks the team doesn’t want him any more. This can mess with things in the locker room when certain players feel like their head is on the chopping block, and it can create divisions between players who aren’t likely to be traded and players who now think that they are.
Also, while this is a less likely scenario, it also could theoretically lead to a player demanding a trade because they know a certain team that they want to play for has tried to acquire them.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 23, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
and the media talking incessantly about who is available for weeks on end doesn’t mess with the locker rooms? Especially when the same names come up “from sources in the league”?
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Those rules don’t apply to media or unnamed “sources”
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
yeah its better for it all to be anonymous than for GMs to actually be openly honest.
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Yes it does. I think it was Corey Pronman who was talking on Twitter earlier this week about how GMs hate rumour guys because they often end up having to go talk to guys to assure them they’re still an important part of the team, like Burke did with Schenn when the JVR rumours exploded.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 23, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
meh, it’s part of the job. It’s a game and trades are an aspect of it.
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Big difference between “I could theoretically get traded at some point” and “my GM wants to dump me for a 3rd round pick right this second”.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 23, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Like Lamar Odom in LA. They traded him, trade got voided by NBA, he said fuck you Trade me
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I think that's a little bit out of control, but whatever.
I get why tampering rules are there and they should be, but what if that footage was released when the players were free agents but considering re-signing with VAN? Wouldn’t that have just as much impact but not be considered “tampering”?
Just seems a bit ridiculous. If it was broadcasted live maybe. Just my opinion I guess.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
But if the player isn’t under contract, the old team has no rights, and the GM could just as easily go to the player and say it himself.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 23, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Still dumb that such a fuss was made.
Obviously RW was dumb with the Sedin thing right before Free Agency.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
I mean, we can say it’s dumb all we want, but it seems pretty clear that players and teams are affected by these things, so the NHL is probably smart to try to keep it to a minimum.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 23, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
Wilson Wilson says what’s up?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 23, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Hockey Central
MacLean: Leafs should go after Roloson, he plays well at the ACC.
Holy fuck.
by 9 Dollar Beer on Feb 23, 2012 12:15 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Yeah but then we’d need to move picks to grab brains for him. too expensive.
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
hahahahah
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by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 23, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
MacLean is loud and self-confident, he used to be a general manager. These things, I suppose, are what networks want.
The tone is convincing. But the words, the words!
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Feb 23, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Ex GMs that work on TV networks are generally the ones who sucked as GMs, otherwise they’d still be GMs.
Flugenweb, space code, twit zone, ass mode, check ze tweets.
yeah but I always thought of him as a coaching guy, not a great GM guy. Even if he was both.
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
also don’t like Coach/GMs as the same person at the same time.
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
dunno.
Just was catching up on my MvsW’s and they were talking what they were doing on Sportsnet and how Wysh isn’t exactly sure what he’ll do, and how Marek will be in the GM’s War Room where they’ll have former GM’s talking about different things. And Quinn was mentioned being one of them..
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
They were making fun of Wysh having to read tweets IIRC. Hilarious show by the way.
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
That is offensive to monkeys.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 23, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
Chimps arn’t monkeys
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 23, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
Do they still fling shit?
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 23, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
Hey there
As said on MvsW, CBJ beat writer saying that the press room in Columbus is being set up for a “large press conference”.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
did you read the blog?
One player today said that he has a small duffel bag packed and ready to go — enough to get through a day or two — in case he’s traded and needs to catch a flight on a moment’s notice. He said he’s not alone. “I’m sure a lot of players are ready like that.”
And, down the hall from the dressing room, the “press conference” room is being rearranged to handle a large crowd, such as one a big trade might draw.
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Quincey said that the Colorado dressing room is like that too – guys can’t concentrate on playing because they know there are a lot of changes coming.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Feb 23, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Has to be rough on a player and their families. Its a reason why players want those NTC’s
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Nash for Statsny
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 23, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Gustavsson!! Armstrong KOMISAREK!!! 3 key pieces Howson clearly wants in any Nash deal
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
Or nothing might happen
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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If Burke can ship Komi and Colby for any “Talent” it will be the greatest theft of all time.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 23, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
meaning the Lebda trade, not the even smallest possibility of bringing him within sniffing distance of a post-game leafs jersey.
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
I still wake up at night thinking that was a dream.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 23, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
I will never forget when my brother knocked on my bedroom door in Burlington and woke me with the news. It was what I assume it would feel like to wake up after a hazy night of partying and realize you’re lying next to Mila Kunis.
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birky: excellent point as always sir
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
by SkinnyFish on Feb 23, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What if its CARTER TO TORONTO
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
bye grabbo
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
Grabbo+Schenn to Chicago for Salak+McNeil/Saad+Hayes+1st
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 23, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
As in the Hayes we traded them?
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
by BCapp on Feb 23, 2012 3:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
As in the Hayes we traded them?
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
by BCapp on Feb 23, 2012 3:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yup, for the pick that became Brad Ross
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 23, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
or his brother, he seems to be a decent C prospect
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 23, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Such a wildcard that Ross.
Great numbers, crazy as they come.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
no beer and no TV make Ross go something something something
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
Go crazy?
O! To join the rush / As the season builds
by Back In Black on Feb 23, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Johansen as a throw in. *crosses fingers
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 23, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Friedman:
Geez, it’s getting ugly in Washington
Well hopefully that works in our favour…..I do have a feeling that team is a few bad losses away from totally and completely imploding.
SELL EVERYTHING
FAIL FOR NAIL
ALL THE RUSSIANS ARE BELONG TO WASHINGTON
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
Actually…they could have two top ten picks if they tanked a bit more.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
They could trade up and get Grigorenko or Galchenyuk
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
with Colorado’s first and theirs? Quite possibly.
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Might not even have to trade up if they really tank… only 6 points ahead of 3rd last in nHL
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
No one is gunna out fail CBJ or EDM right now… therefore you are gunning for 3rd overall aka “Suck for Galchenyuk”
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
by WizardofNaz on Feb 23, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Or they could win the lotto and pick #1
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 23, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
yeah it was mostly sarcastic, but they could win the lotto. Not likely, but still.
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
I really hope no one wins the Lotto because it would be awful to see how butthurt the CBJ fanbase would be… its like kicking a cripple when they’ve fallen off their wheelchair and it rolls down the hill so they can’t even get back into it
Kadri Fanboy since 2006
yeah I mean once they trade all their good players away (Nash, Carter, Vermette), they better get Nail or they are screwed.
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
wonder what they would give us for Kulemin
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 23, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
and cody Eakin or Holtby
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 23, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
I overrated Holtby pretty hard after seeing him in person stone the shit out of the Marlies.
Ya it’s only AHL I know.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 23, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Sorta ironic that Washington DC, the capital city of the USA, would assemble a team with such a big Russian contingent, given the two countries’ history
hahahaah wut
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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i dunno man, they also have a bunch of Canadians, and you remember the history between the two countries back in the 1800s
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 23, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Ya I was thinking more recently
Obviously not cold war levels, but still interesting
Obviously they’ve acquired gritty Canadian boys like Chimera and Laich so we don’t burn down the White House again.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Feb 23, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
The problem isn’t so much the standings – though they are doing really bad versus expectations, it’s that the dressing room seems like its getting way too heated.
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Saturday night against he caps is the last game both teams have before the deadline.
The caps have a back to back the night before against the habs and we have the sharks tonight.
As bad as the leafs have been that few weeks, the capitals have been worse. Depending on what happens after these next few games for both teams I can see a rush trades at the deadline.
If I’m the capitals, given the things that are emerging, I jettison several players and call it a year. Pick up some assets and move on. Do a mini-rebuild around Ovie.
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
So what you’re saying is Vokoun shutout, Ovi hat trick.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Feb 23, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Mike Ulmer has joined the Jake Gardiner ego-stroking club(Now accepting new members)
At least it's not Lebda.
Mike Ulmer is terrible. Jake Gardiner is not a generational-talent.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
Aw, you know this the only leafs blog I love. Don’t be jealous.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 23, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
I generally don’t read “analysis” from mapleleafs.com
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
You’ve got a dirty whorish mouth. That’s what you have.
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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...
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
by birky on Feb 23, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
insta rec for colbert
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 23, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
did you just “oh no you didn’t” to your own post?
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
yes, because I wanted to make sure Leafer knew I was kidding.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
Doesn’t need to be generational. I’d be thrilled with Kaberle 2.0.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Feb 23, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Thrilled indeed.
The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts.
by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 23, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
agreed, but I see more potential in him than I saw in Kabby when he came up back in the day. Not the same era, mind you, but Gardiner as a rookie, without AHL time, already looks ready to play in the NHL. Once he fixes up his game, he has the potential to be a really, really, really good player. Three reallys.
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
What would you say to getting Kaberle 1.0 back?
- Habs fans
by Simon Lamarche on Feb 23, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Komisarek +Armstrong for Kaberle
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 23, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
That’s cute
The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts.
by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 23, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
Easy tiger. I agree that the kid could be the best Leaf defenceman since Salming.
Not sure why that seems so extreme. The mistakes I see him make are correctable ones – e.g. decisions on whether to stay in front of the net, nervousness over whether to shoot.
Maybe it’s for the best to have Leaf fans not raving over him.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 23, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
he makes rookie mistakes, but the kid fought his way onto the roster and now into our top 4. Pretty solid. But I’m not making predictions about him being one of our best defenders since salming…We’ll see what he does over the next few years.
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Let's compare:
Schenn: Better taste in music.
Gardiner: Worse taste in music.
Kid needs some work.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 23, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Trade both.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 23, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Kessel likes country too. Now what?
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 23, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Let's compare:
Schenn: any way you look at it, Luke is a cool name.
Gardiner: I can never remember whether it’s Jay or Jake or Jeff. Or Expressway.
Kid’s gotta settle that down.
O! To join the rush / As the season builds
by Back In Black on Feb 23, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
in a few years when he’s skating up the ice past opposing players and then scoring, I’m callling that move “the Gardiner Expressway”
by Goosemonster on Feb 23, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
my dog’s name is Jake, it’s a great name
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 23, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but dude.....
YOUR name is Jard.
You are no judge of shite names.
Jake is now a shite, over-used, name.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 23, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
Schenn teaching kids to skate, ha.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 23, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Schenn and Komisarek no less. I guess Brayden Irwin was busy teaching the advanced classes.
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Feb 23, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t wait until the Sun runs an article saying the Leafs are looking to trade for Van Riemsdyk, Malone and Harding.
Next season of 24/7: "I am named Mikhail. I watch video to fold together strategy. I want outdoors to fight bravely."
by Peter de Chatham on Feb 23, 2012 4:57 PM EST reply actions
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