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Leafs wake up in 10th place as deadline looms

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With the Washington Capitals trouncing the Habs last night, the Leafs fall back into 10th place in the Eastern Conference. You'd have to think that another loss tonight would have an impact on what the Leafs do at the trade deadline. You'll hear a lot of "this game is huge" from here on out, but this one may have additional lasting impact for certain players.

Links after the jump...

Star-divide

Deadline Rumorz take two

Jared pesters his top sources for more trade chatter

Rules for tweeting during deadline day

Good advice from Dirty Dangle

A fan's guide to NHL trade deadline day

More tips for Monday from DGB

Leafs waive two as deadline looms

Boyce and Rosehill on way out. Glad to see the Leafs trim down the number of replacement level guys on the roster

To trade for top-six size

JP on where and why size could help

Do Nash's dollars make sense?

Summary: Nash is overpaid. New stuff from MLHS

Are the Bruins poised to be upset in the playoffs?

What, no trade deadline speculation VLM? For shame!

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When I wake up and one of the first things I hear is LeBrun discussing the Leafs’ interest in Khabibulin, I want to go back to sleep real fast.

The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts.

by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 25, 2012 9:20 AM EST reply actions  

Makes me feel like getting put to sleep.

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The Artist Formerly Known as "Junior", who blogs at heroesinrehab.ca/blog

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by jrwendelman on Feb 25, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

only if they take back komisarek and armstrong

Y'all heard about me, you just didn't know it was me

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

And we get their 2nd

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I could deal with being stuck with a 35+ contract for another year if it meant offloading those boat anchors

The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts.

by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 25, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I still wouldn’t do it because of his 35+ contract. Only way I’d do it would be if a significant young player or Edmonton’s 1st round pick was coming back with Khabibulin, and even Tambellini can’t be that dumb.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Feb 25, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d do it and then next year try to convince him to go to the KHL for the year and Huet his ass

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

A 35+ conract counts against the cap no matter what. Huet doesn’t have a 35+ deal.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Feb 25, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Huet would also have to pass through waivers

Y'all heard about me, you just didn't know it was me

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Only if they retire. You can still waive/demote 35+ contracts but once the player retires they act like a buyout does against the cap

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

CBA says:

For each League Year, “Actual Club Salary” for each Club shall be
calculated as the sum of the following amounts

(iv) All Player Salary and Bonuses earned in a League Year by a Player
who is in the second or later year of a multi-year SPC which was
signed when the Player was age 35 or older (as of June 30 prior to
the League Year in which the SPC is to be effective), regardless of
whether, or where, the Player is playing
, except to the extent the
Player is playing under his SPC in the minor leagues, in which
case only the Player Salary and Bonuses in excess of $100,000
shall count towards the calculation of Actual Club Salary;

Bonuses don’t count if the player is in the minors, but the regular salary still does, and if the player is anywhere but the minors, everything including bonuses counts.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Feb 25, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, mis-read on my part, bonuses do still count even if the player is playing in the minors.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull

by Draglikepull on Feb 25, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

hmm shit nvm then, but still to unload two anchors for the price of one is still worth it.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

What is “worse” a 35+ Khabi contract for 2 years or a NMC Komi contract for 3 years? I think I prefer Khabi’s.

by jeffgm on Feb 25, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

You can put Komisarek in the press box or play him 10 minutes a night on the 3rd, whereas if the Leafs trade for Khabi it’s because they intend on actually playing him. I’d rather pay Komisarek $4.5 million to sit in the press box than pay Khabibulin $3.75 million to lose us hockey games in net.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Feb 25, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Breaks my heart but the Leafs will miss the playoffs this year.

Even if they pull off a few wins in a row, the pattern suggests they’ll break down for a few games thereafter and extrapolating that pattern over the next 20 games doesn’t bode well for a playoff spot.

I would really like to see them get a good young centerman in the draft.

by Jack rides ducks on Feb 25, 2012 9:27 AM EST reply actions  

DAMNIT JARED DON"T YOU KNOW ITS THE END OF THE WORLD!!

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Leafs aren’t winning the cup this yr so I know for fact the world isn’t ending.

"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."

by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 25, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Uhh dude… its 2012..

END OF DAYS!

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m going to find a Mayan and beat you over the head with him.

So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil

by Learn2Leaf on Feb 25, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll second that. leafs lose 7/8 but everyone around them is just as bad.

by elseldo on Feb 25, 2012 10:11 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

What pattern? The last 9 games?

by lucc on Feb 25, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

The Leafs

Are still more likely to end up in 7th or 8th than Florida or Washington.

It’s still kind of sad that this team has gotten to this point though. I can’t help but think about all those goddamn losses to Ottawa and Montreal.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 25, 2012 9:37 AM EST reply actions  

They are a very frustrating team no doubt. Best thing that will happen to them is getting past this deadline. Players say they don’t listen to the rumours but every player has been traded somewhere for someone by fans or media and BB is in on every deal. They have the talent to win but do they have the heart down the stretch?

"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."

by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 25, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

A 10th place haiku

No solid defense.
Goaltending’s an issue.
The Leafs make me cry.

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by mass9 on Feb 25, 2012 9:50 AM EST via mobile reply actions   2 recs

at one point the Leafs were a few points back of 4th. just because they’re still within the bubble doesn’t mean they haven’t been disappointing.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 25, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

the ‘bubble’ team prediction was also predicated on the Caps, Sabres, and Canadiens not being total shit. the fact that Ottawa is sitting in 7th while the Leafs are in 10th means that this team is underperforming.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 25, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

under-performing lately, over-performing at the start
regression is a mean bitch

Y'all heard about me, you just didn't know it was me

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Its almost like over a full seasons there are ups and downs… but that cant be right…

Also to the whole we are a disappointment because the Sens are higher? We are higher than the Sabres and Lightning who were expected to be higher teams than us. And if we win tonight we’ll be ahead of the Capitals who were potentially going to finish 1st in the East again. Doesn’t that mean we’d be over achieving?

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

it’s more like everyone else is out-under-performing us.

by JohnerstonRex on Feb 25, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s fine to be disapointed, but it is still silly to pretend that team that was ever so good to gain home ice advantage in the playoffs was anything but a pleasant, unexpected and unrealistic turn of events that probably would not hold up in the long run

Y'all heard about me, you just didn't know it was me

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Pretty much. Our best hope was 6th, which is looking out off reach, but thats okay.

by samspade on Feb 25, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I have said this a couple of times on here already….IF they can at least finish 8th…I believe they can beat the Rangers in Round One…..with the team they have now

by wayne scarlett on Feb 25, 2012 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

that post his hilariously broken English
but the point stands

Y'all heard about me, you just didn't know it was me

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

The trip they’ve taken to get here is disappointing because they’ve missed a number of opportunities but then again bubble teams tend to not take advantage of opportunities.

They are where we thought that they would be.

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by PPP on Feb 25, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

BURKE SHOULD BLOW IT UP! TANK !

Y'all heard about me, you just didn't know it was me

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

go full columbus

Glenn Healy = Raw sewage.

by Future_considerations on Feb 25, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with the sentiment that Bubble teams tend to give away opportunities. That is why they are only mediocre and not best in the league.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Woah woah woah, I dont recall anyone saying something as silly as “home I’ve advantage”.

amd while some regression from their hot start was expected, thr last few weeks are cause for alarm. Not yet panic, but serious concern.

Look, we all understand that theres still a recwnt chance at making the post season

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by mass9 on Feb 25, 2012 10:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

There was definitely talk that the Leafs were within reasonable striking distance of home ice.

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by PPP on Feb 25, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

It was a game vs philly about 3wks ago.
If they won that, it was only 3 pts out of 4th.

Since then, downward spiral of the highest degree.

Fffffff……

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by mass9 on Feb 25, 2012 10:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

highest degree? really?

Y'all heard about me, you just didn't know it was me

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Compromise?

(Highest degree – 1)

Im just worried is all.
Most of ther year in a play off position, and now a serious swoon heading into crunch time.

I miss playoffs dude. Like….a lot.

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by mass9 on Feb 25, 2012 10:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

so does everyone, but acting like the Leafs are in the lotto and all hope is lost is getting a little tired

Y'all heard about me, you just didn't know it was me

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Lotto? C’mon Jared, lets not put words in my mouth.
The poem was just a joke, and we’re all allowed to show some concern.

I still truthfully believe that they will pull their collectives heads out of their asses and get into the post season. That said, the past few weeks have looked awfully familiar to seasons past.

Group hug man, we’re all in this together big guy.

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by mass9 on Feb 25, 2012 10:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

im not putting words in your mouth, simply stating that there is a permeating attitude of negativity among a group of people, not just you

Y'all heard about me, you just didn't know it was me

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I back Jared. The negativity is over the top

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 12:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I call it cautious optimism. anything better then 9th would be amazing, but i remain firm in my belief that the team won’t make the postseason.

prove me wrong Leafs, please for the love of god prove me wrong.

Also, people begging Burke to throw in the towel and tank need to be taken out back and shot.

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by thenumber14 on Feb 25, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Stupid fat fingers, hit post by accident

*decent chance at making the post season, but if things continue like the past little while its going to be a long, hard last 20+ games.

I repeat: The Leafs make me cry.

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by mass9 on Feb 25, 2012 10:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

go back about a month and a half, lots of people were talking about the chance of home ice advantage
no one really seriously thought it was a lock or anything, but it was in “distinct possibility” territory for some
as for “understanding there is still a decent chance” most people arn’t acting like it

Y'all heard about me, you just didn't know it was me

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Sky = falling, the story of Leaf fandom

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by mass9 on Feb 25, 2012 10:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

doesn’t make it right, or immune to scorn

Y'all heard about me, you just didn't know it was me

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I said that back in October…even said it on this site…got caught up in the fast start.I lost that hope when Gionta knocked Reimer for a loop…(deliberately)

by wayne scarlett on Feb 25, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

5
7
6

That's "Da-ooo". Oh, and I tweet now too @dannyd1976.

by daoust on Feb 25, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

yeah, I fucked up with “always”
said it too fast in my head and thought it was one syllable

Y'all heard about me, you just didn't know it was me

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Sometimes you mess up,
but keep fucking that chicken,
you will overcome.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 25, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I dont “do” poultry
weekends I make puppies
I am so lazy

Y'all heard about me, you just didn't know it was me

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

jarde walkd on sheets
of papre laid over whut
the dam doggie done

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 25, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Thought you blew that one
But Jarde is like Sade
Smooth operator

" No one wants advice - only corroboration " - John Steinbeck

by GreatKingRat on Feb 25, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think there’s a new tag in this for Jared.

“The Sade of the Internet”

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 25, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

That is disturbing
Only four legged animals
Otherwise it is wrong

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 12:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

she was my hen, hon
always buck buck buck buckawwwww
dat hen wore me out

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 25, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Another failure
Haikus may be a problem
Try a limerick

" No one wants advice - only corroboration " - John Steinbeck

by GreatKingRat on Feb 25, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Fucking only

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 1:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The Leafs they play tonight,
Brown will get in a fight.
They’ll shoot the puck,
and hope for luck,
Glenn Healy will be a tard.

Flugenweb, space code, twit zone, ass mode, check ze tweets.

by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec’d.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 25, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

rec`d for sun firing and etc

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Feb 25, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Two attempts have failed
This is not rocket science
Count your syllables

" No one wants advice - only corroboration " - John Steinbeck

by GreatKingRat on Feb 25, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I suck at Haikus
Syllables always mess me up
Go fuck yourself please.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Familiar with
The Hansard Haiku web site?
It is amazing

openparliament.ca/labs/haiku/

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Feb 25, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

No need to expound
On your poetic failings
They are evident

" No one wants advice - only corroboration " - John Steinbeck

by GreatKingRat on Feb 25, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I only did one
It was syllable perfect
It was not that bad

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

You fucked it up dude
Syllables-say it with me
It’s three syllables

" No one wants advice - only corroboration " - John Steinbeck

by GreatKingRat on Feb 25, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Always was issue
thought it was one syllable
it is really two

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

5
6
5

That's "Da-ooo". Oh, and I tweet now too @dannyd1976.

by daoust on Feb 25, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Good for you, you can
Count but you are making me
sad that no one can

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by PPP on Feb 25, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

That haiku is poor
Each line should complete itself
You should try again

That's "Da-ooo". Oh, and I tweet now too @dannyd1976.

by daoust on Feb 25, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Fuck the polis

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 25, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Build from the back out?
Is Burke in Opposite-land?
Least we’ve got our first

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 25, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Habs, Sabres, Lightning
Last four games are winnable
Our fate’s in our hands.

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 25, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It is in our hands
but I don’t have that much faith
in our team’s defense

by Goosemonster on Feb 25, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Leafs’ fate in their hands.
Jonas drops it going wide
Hand me that noose, please?

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 25, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Habs, Sabres, Lightning
Are going to leave us with
Our dicks in our hands

" No one wants advice - only corroboration " - John Steinbeck

by GreatKingRat on Feb 25, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Poets we are not.
Neurotic Leaf fans? Fuck yeah.
Now this is fun shit.

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by mass9 on Feb 25, 2012 12:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

rec’d rec’d rec’d rec’d rec’d
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by sportsfan2 on Feb 25, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

The Leafs can do it
They are just inconsistent
Wins shall arrive soon

Yet another Leaf fan in Ottawa.

by Adzbass on Feb 25, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if whoever deals with the NHL for TSN ever hints that having the deadline on a weekend would be great….

by elseldo on Feb 25, 2012 10:13 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

Put in on the same Sunday as the Superbowl and watch heads explode.

"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."

by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 25, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

We are currently in 21st

And IIRC thats exactly where we ranked by Fenwick Close score.

We all know what the deficencies are.

And we still only sit 1 point back from 8th, and we have games in hand on the Jets (who are 3rd by division rank).
After a brutal stretch, we are still firmly in the race.

Such is the life of a bubble team… which is what most of us thought this team was at the beginning of the year.

by samspade on Feb 25, 2012 10:13 AM EST reply actions  

I think brighter days are ahead.. after this trade deadline passes and the squeezing of the sticks stops

Glenn Healy = Raw sewage.

by Future_considerations on Feb 25, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

do they start playing …better or otherwise..beginning Tuesday against the Cats? Or is this “it’s nerves because of the deadline”shit ..just that?

by wayne scarlett on Feb 25, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

rabble rabble the sun sucks, womp womp, bunch of hacks, yadda yadda, must suck to be on the cusp of not being relevant, neener neener

oooo my waffles are ready

Y'all heard about me, you just didn't know it was me

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Someone didn’t like being called dirtbags. Although I did like Feschuk pointing out that the Leafs’ PK in 2012 represents a small sample size. I don’t think it’s intellectually honest to dismiss the fact that making chicken salad out of chicken shit the first few years isn’t easy or that the teams they chose to highlight good coaching changes were better teams to begin with.

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by PPP on Feb 25, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

So... what's up with Steckel?

Up to 9 games ago, he was a total -1.

In the last 9 games, he’s gone -8.

In the previous 25 games, he’d had only one minus game.

Also, his minutes are down, from early in the year he’s fallen from 15 to 13 to 11, and through this stretch, down to 9 and 8 and last game, under 6:00.

Is he hurt?

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 25, 2012 10:27 AM EST reply actions  

Not sure. He did have that wrist injury but it seemed like he was getting better. Maybe he re-injured it.

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by PPP on Feb 25, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Also Liles

Since he’s been back…. 11 games, a -8. And only 1 point.

Previous 34 games, a +2 and 21 points.

Still not right, I’d say. I don’t like concussions and the way Leaf players are returning to the line-up officially, but not seeming quite right.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 25, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Leafs were vastly outperforming earlier in the season. Been dropping back to true talent level recently.

by stevesmith19 on Feb 25, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Part of that is that the Leafs just aren’t scoring – any of them – but like you said, guys can pass the concussion tests but not be fully ready to come back

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by PPP on Feb 25, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve passed a baseline test when I knew I was concussed, its not all that hard when your only symptoms are feeling groggy.
The issue with concussions is even when you’re brain is healed you can still be “not right”. This is because with concussions you can damage the brain to the point of breaking the neuron pathways. When you are recovering you now have to rebuild those pathways. This can be especially true for things like reflexes where a new neural pathway can slow your reaction considerably.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

yup, that’s why they call it a “baseline” test
all it really tells you is that you are probably not at current risk of permanent brain damage and can go have a nap without having to worry if you are going to wake up again

Y'all heard about me, you just didn't know it was me

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly a baseline test is a lot like a Drunk test. The “If I leave you alone can you take care of yourself or will you probably hurt yourself in a hilarious manner”

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

he gets a lot of defensive zone starts and the Leafs goaltending has been horrible the past 9 games, so he is pretty much on the firing line

Y'all heard about me, you just didn't know it was me

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Leafs have been playing from behind much more frequently, and you don’t play your 4th line grinders very often when you want to score a goal or two to tie the game. Steckel is much more useful to send out to protect a lead than to try and get it back.

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by Draglikepull on Feb 25, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Schedule Strength

So I added up the records of the opponents of the four teams in the race to get an idea of who has the toughest and easiest schedules.

Winnipeg, 67pts, 19GR, 567-441-144, equivalent of a 91 point team
Florida, 66pts, 23GR, 660-566-176, equivalent of an 87.5 point team
Washington, 65pts, 21GR, 637-492-146, equivalent of a 91.3 point team
Toronto, 65pts, 21GR, 629-490-150, equivalent of a 91 point team

Not only does Florida have the most games left they have by far the easiest schedule. Anything can happen, but Florida definitely has a clear advantage to get a playoff spot. It’s a toss up among Winnipeg, Washington and Toronto with who as the edge for the other playoff spot. Winnipeg has the 2 point edge in points in the bank but the 2 fewer games remaining pretty much cancels that out and each of the teams have fairly equal strength of schedule.

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by HockeyAnalysis on Feb 25, 2012 10:41 AM EST reply actions  

Oh, to play in the SouthEast

http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com

by Curt S on Feb 25, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Games against each other:

TOR-WSH 2
TOR-FLA 1
WSH-FLA 1
WSH-WPG 2
FLA-WPG 2

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by HockeyAnalysis on Feb 25, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Toronto’s record against the SE? 4-7-2.

Man we would totally own in that conference.

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by SkinnyFish on Feb 25, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Division full of trap-playing dump-and-chasers. We really struggle against those kinds of teams.

http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com

by Curt S on Feb 25, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree. Leafs have a hard time beating teams that play competence defense.

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by SkinnyFish on Feb 25, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

competent*

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by SkinnyFish on Feb 25, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

So why don’t we want to add a forward again?

http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com

by Curt S on Feb 25, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

To smash through the trap!

"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."

by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 25, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Imagine this is triage. Leafs come into the ER with a whole lot wrong with them. The most grievous wound to fix; the one that is going to kill them first is how they bleed goals.

Our goaltending is a gunshot.
Our defense is a burst appendix.
Our offense is a broken leg.

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by SkinnyFish on Feb 25, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

where are are we shot?

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Either high glove or the five hole.

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by SkinnyFish on Feb 25, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

hand? pfft, you just bandage that up and stop the bleeding best you can and take care of the other stuff, hell, now a groin shot? those can be tricky, is it near an artery? did it nick the bowel or lower intestine? you don’t want all that getting mixed up inside you, the infection will kill you dead real fast

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I mean, you triage a bullet to the shoulder a lot different than you do a gutshot

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s definitely a gutshot because we are slowly dying.

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by PPP on Feb 25, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

even if you are gut shot, you can probably sew that and the burst appendix up at the same time, or at least cut and stitch up the vitals in the same surgery so the patient can stabilize

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I find that kinda hilarious, since goaltending and defence are so closely tied

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

It would be nice to extract the komisarek at the same time also

Glenn Healy = Raw sewage.

by Future_considerations on Feb 25, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

They haven’t found a cure for cancer yet have they?

/snide

by GettinGiggy on Feb 25, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Gaping chest wound.

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by SkinnyFish on Feb 25, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

are we worried about the heart at all or is it just a sucking chest would where we can inflate the lung, rig a temp breathing apparatus and move on to the appendix?

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m going to shoot you.

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by SkinnyFish on Feb 25, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

where? I need to know for triage

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

aim for the appendix, skinny.

it’s where he gets his strength.

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by not norm ullman on Feb 25, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

That whole back and forth was incredibly entertaining

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by clrkaitken on Feb 25, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, if your thesis that we can’t score against competent teams is correct (and without looking at the numbers, I believe it likely is) then I would say we have multiple gun shot wounds.

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by Curt S on Feb 25, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

As Marek loves to say Goaltending is 70% of your team unless you don’t have it and then its 100%

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

How dare other teams have a competent defence. We was robbed.

by jeffgm on Feb 25, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

The Leafs are like school yard bullies. They will beat up on the weak but when challenged they run and hide.

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by HockeyAnalysis on Feb 25, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I really don’t think there is any pattern to how the Leafs play (when it comes to their opposition). We’ve seen them play excellent games against top competition and awful games against terrible competition, and vice versa.

This team either shows up or it doesn’t.

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 25, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Their record against playoff teams is pretty horrible, and they are really really good against non-playoff teams.

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by HockeyAnalysis on Feb 25, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

perhaps I am just being swayed by their dismal performances against teams in our division and in the Southeast

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 25, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I want to draw a correlation between leaf speed and good and bad teams. Better teams have sufficient goaltending and better defensive systems to manage the leafs need for speed.

by jeffgm on Feb 25, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

They’re a quintessential Good Bad Team.

Good enough to beat up on the weaklings (and the Rangers, inexplicably). But they get their teeth kicked in by anyone good.

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by clrkaitken on Feb 25, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

If we go by points percentage, which I think is the fairest way of determining things, the Leafs are still tied for 8th and Winnipeg is still in 10th. Washington does hold the first tie-breaker over the Leafs right now though, so if it comes down to those two for 8th then the Leafs can’t afford a tie – we have to finish with more points than Washington.

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by Draglikepull on Feb 25, 2012 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

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Today’s waivers should be interesting. I believe TOR’s Darryl Boyce will be claimed.

by Tothelinebutnotout on Feb 25, 2012 11:47 AM EST reply actions  

NoooOOoooOOoo not Boyce!!!

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 25, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

You nose it will happen

by jeffgm on Feb 25, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Already done. Reunited with Lebad in Columbus

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 25, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

if Lebda is Lebad can he Be coy?

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Feb 25, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Nice one

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 25, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

BBB

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Feb 25, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder

Burke may be letting Boyce go for the sake of giving him an opportunity elsewhere. Frattin is probably ready to be with the big club full time, and clearing space with an extra body or two for a trade isn’t a bad idea, either.

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by JP Nikota on Feb 25, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s part of the Nash deal.

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 25, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, tsn commenters...
Zorzi
1 hour ago
I bet Boyce will score when they play Toronto next. Mismanagement and poor coaching is ruining this team

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by Jo4nny on Feb 25, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

did you not know? Boyce was the key to the cup!

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t be so Boyceturous.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

hey now, Burke is just trying to separate the Boyce from the men here

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That just reminded me, the saddest part of him leaving is we never got him to change his twitter handle to “Boyce2Men”

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

What is this, an old Boyce club?

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by GreatKingRat on Feb 25, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

He and Lebda are probably listening to “The Boyce Are Back In Town” together in Columbus.

by DSOD on Feb 25, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I am quite pleased that I started this thread for the good Boyce and girls on here to enjoy.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Let’s hear it for the Boyce!

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 25, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t get what they are saying about mismanagement – that the team should have traded Boyce for a pick or that someone more deserving should be waived?

by jeffgm on Feb 25, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s not saying anything other than “derp derp derp derp”… no need for logic.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Sadly he was the last Leaf to play with Sundin. Too bad for Boyce thats the absolute only reason to miss him

by schennsational on Feb 25, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

... (you may want to hide this post)

I’ll miss him as a team member and guy with ridiculous heart:

But not as a player.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree, Its sad that someone one with that much heart gets screwed talent wise when you have uber talented guys like Yashin that just mail it in.

by schennsational on Feb 25, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

c’est la vie

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

McKenzie says he thinks Boyce will be claimed on Monday when waiver claims are processed.

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by Draglikepull on Feb 25, 2012 11:47 AM EST reply actions  

Mark Spector Sports ‏ @SportsnetSpec Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Nash to NYR deal has advanced. CBJ gets 1 of Del Zotto or McDonagh, a 1st, & prospect (Tim Erixon). NYR feels offer bests #Leafs. #SNtrade

by Tothelinebutnotout on Feb 25, 2012 11:49 AM EST reply actions  

If that is the offer on the table from NYR I don’t think I want the Leafs to match

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 25, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

nether do I. Now, for Nash to veto it and say, “make a deal with Toronto”, alllowing us to low blow them…../dreaming

by Goosemonster on Feb 25, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I say there is zero chance that Nash gets traded to the Leafs. I have a feeling that Burke’s not gonna do any trading and use his old quote of how he hates dealing at the deadline.

by 6rick6 on Feb 25, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

He hates ADDING at the deadline he’s perfectly happy selling off assets for huge overpriced returns. “Hey if you want to overpay for my player I won’t stop you, but I will not give up a 1st for Nabokov”

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

JFJ isn’t the GM anymore so a first for Nabby is not gonna happen.

by 6rick6 on Feb 25, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly! because Burke won’t overpay to fill a hole.

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

thinking the same…

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Feb 25, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry meant overpay in a trade… and before you go all derp and talk about Kessel I think he’s still worth it.

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

??

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

You whooshed on your own comment.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

hehehe I get it now you dirty dirty man…

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

We all are.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

You need to get your mind off of it’s high horse and down into the gutter with the rest of our heads.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

My horse is not high!… maybe a little drunk but thats it I swear

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I see what you did there.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

my horse is amazing

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

would it be a bad thing if they stood pat…and just promoted guys from the Marlies? Starting with the Coach?

by wayne scarlett on Feb 25, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

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#SNtrade talk. Going into the weekend the #Rangers remain firm that moving Del Zotto or McDonagh to #Bluejackets for Nash is not an option.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

We should make fun of Montreal more. NYR your McDonough in the Gomez trade

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 12:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

NYR got*

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 12:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Full circle.

If they traded McDonough for Nash it has the potential to be the reverse of the Gomez trade

by scott tubbesing on Feb 25, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think Nash will go a year without scoring a goal.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Well Gomez is a ridiculous goal/assist split player but no one envisioned this drop off when the trade was made.

by scott tubbesing on Feb 25, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Scott Gomez had literally one, maybe two great years in his career. The contract they gave him was insanely stupid. Everyone knew it was a just horrible contract.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay...

So Gomez had 578 pts in 706 games before the trade = 0.82 ppg and Rick Nash has 530 pts in 653 games before a trade = 0.81 ppg. Why is Nash’s contract so much better and not a risk to turn into a Gomez exactly?

by scott tubbesing on Feb 25, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

1) Nash is younger
2) Nash is not known for his points but for his goal scoring ability. Check out the comparison there.
3) Nash has performed as he has by himself. Gomez was often carried by team mates.

4) Even at the time everyone knew that Gomez contract was horrible. People say Nash’ is bad. There is a difference.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t really believe they are on equal footing but when you run the numbers their ppg are identical. I know I’m in the minority but I value assists as highly as goals. Either way you are creating a goal for your team. Everyone said Marc Savard was an Ilya Kovalchuk creation yet he had identical numbers with and without him. No one can predict exactly what will happen in the future with Nash, and it wasn’t a certainty that Gomez would fall off a cliff like he did in MTL.

by scott tubbesing on Feb 25, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

you statistically cannot equate an assist to a goal because of the fact that up to 2 assists can be handed out at every goal while only 1 goal can be handed out.

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 25, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it was Skinny who posted the stat that a goal is worth about 1.7 assists.

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 25, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

My biggest problem

Is the automatic assist if you touched the puck. I know it would add a lot of score keeper’s bias but I would like to see assists awarded for actually contributing to the play (also than guys who are screening/creating havoc in front of the net/make a big hit for a take-away could get an assist).

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

there should only be one assist per goal, it would screw some guys out of legit points, but it would take away so many stat padding phantom assists

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I would be for going to an NBA style assist system

You set up the play you earn the assist. Otherwise screw off.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Goals go off butts too or off faces etc.. of course the assist from you doing nothing happens more often but goals like that happen as well.

I can’t form a sentence right now. wtf.

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by Chuck Diesel on Feb 25, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

with bonuses(??!!!!!)…10 million this year…5 million a goal….Quebec economics?

by wayne scarlett on Feb 25, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Hockey Night in Canada on mute tonight.

by 6rick6 on Feb 25, 2012 11:57 AM EST reply actions  

Boyce claimed by Lolumbus. Poor guy.

well, that escalated quickly

by aelanK on Feb 25, 2012 12:04 PM EST reply actions  

It wasn’t Long Island.

Wait, that’d be an improvement at this point.

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by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 25, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Judging by the fact they employ Brett Lebda as a top 3 defender Boyce will be running their first line

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by clrkaitken on Feb 25, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

And with Carter and Vermette now gone, that’s actually probably not far off.

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by clrkaitken on Feb 25, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I cant wait to see the contract they offer Lebda

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Lebda’s clearly improving, he hasn’t been a minus in a lopsided win lately has he?

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by Adzbass on Feb 25, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

think about it
Columbus having a lopsided win

yeah

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Water would have to be unwet. It isn’t.

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by Adzbass on Feb 25, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Check your tap man they won 6-3 the other night… which is like 14-1 for any other team

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Good for Boyce – he deserves better then the AHL and I’m sure he prefer lolumbus.
The leafs system is efficient at producing bottom plug talent – mitchell, brent and now boyce.

by jeffgm on Feb 25, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

This team has looked completely dead lately, maybe a little Clitsome could excite them.

well, that escalated quickly

by aelanK on Feb 25, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I’ll bet Burke has put the feelers out there for Clitsome…but will he bite?

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by Guy Dudeman on Feb 25, 2012 12:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

He better not. Jesus.

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by rift valley on Feb 25, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Would be quite cruel. But seriously should he be putting Clistome on [the] ice? That sounds cruel too.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Some people are into that kind of thing I guess?

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by rift valley on Feb 25, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, whatever floats your boat.

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by GreatKingRat on Feb 25, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

It does, indeed, take all kinds.

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by rift valley on Feb 25, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh lord. Ever seen the movie Teeth?

well, that escalated quickly

by aelanK on Feb 25, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Why must you bring that up… I refuse to ever watch that movie but I’ve ehard stories

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you implying something lol

by NumberWun on Feb 25, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

and today’s internet has been won
you can all go home now

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually think plan the parade’s is better.

Clrk’s is one of those $8000 bottle of booze at a bar. Plan the parades is the $150 000 bottle in some billionaire’s private bar.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

nah, one is a fine steak, the other is an excellent fine wine, good apart, better together

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Touche.

But to poor it down to student-level, I’ll go with beer and hockey.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Ding ding ding

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by not norm ullman on Feb 25, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

That poor magnificent bastard

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Lest we forget: Brett Lebda

by kudzupo on Feb 25, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Darryl Boyce

AHL Salary: $105,000
NHL Salary: $700,000

Getting claimed was likely a blessing. Guys like Boyce should be thankful for every day in the NHL they see.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I have to believe he took the 105, 000 to make it easier to be called up. He is good enough down there to demand high 100’s

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but if he’s up here a few times for a few weeks at a time he will make more than that (which happened).. makes sense.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

It is an interesting move to make. Shows that he really wants to play in the N and is willing to risk less money to do it. There is definitely nothing wrong with being an AHL vet/leader like Ziggo and making $300 000 to do it.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

That AHL salary is the reason we kept Boyce instead of Brent. Brent was holding out for a 1-way deal, and he got it from Carolina.

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by Draglikepull on Feb 25, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup. And good for him. I hope Boyce gets it too from some other team. Everything I hear about him, seems to be that he works his ass off and is a great team player. He unfortunately just isn’t that talented.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

For sure. As much as I’m a Leafs fan, if the Hurricanes offered me a guaranteed $1.5 million and the Leafs offer might only amount to $210,000, I would take the Hurricanes offer.

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by Draglikepull on Feb 25, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I was really happy for Brent. He worked really hard to get onto the team even in a limited role. We had many players similar to him (including Boyce) so we couldnt pay him as much, but good for him for earning a contract elsewhere.

by Goosemonster on Feb 25, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Possession

I just think puck possession is killing the leafs. and the leafs always gets destroyed if the other team is a good possession team. the leafs just aren’t playing organized enough.

by NumberWun on Feb 25, 2012 12:26 PM EST reply actions  

Flames and Nashville are both worse then the leafs at puck possession.
The biggest difference is goaltending (weber/suter help as well) and the use of the effective shell the goalie defensive system.

by jeffgm on Feb 25, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

as much as i think jfl is a turkey, it was a good read, way to go jared, way to go buddy

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also should think it should be a weekly article

by power-forward on Feb 25, 2012 12:46 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Dustin Brown!

He’s our best bet if we can’t get Nash, or the price is too high. The Kings will be pretty desperate for D. Maybe something involving Schenn for Brown will happen.

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by TannShazamm on Feb 25, 2012 12:38 PM EST reply actions  

though I think we’d need something else from them to make that happen

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by TannShazamm on Feb 25, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

the Kings are desperate for D?
why?
Doughty- Mitchell
Voyonev-Scuderi
Greene – Drewiski

only one real stud, but its pretty solid, they also have prospects like Hickey, Forbort and Muzzin
the only real upgrades would be Phaneuf or Gunnar

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Schenn's a better prospect than Hickey, Forbort, and Muzzin.

He may not be a HUGE upgrade right now, but they’ll want him for the future. And we could use really use Brown so I see it being a win for both sides.

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by TannShazamm on Feb 25, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

right, they might want Schenn, but saying they are desperate for a Defenceman is silly

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

yup, I used the wrong word for sure, desperate is too strong of a word, but the trade could still happen and benefit both teams, which was my main point

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by TannShazamm on Feb 25, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

FRATTIN

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by Likely on Feb 25, 2012 12:46 PM EST reply actions  

ahem

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Maple Leafs recall Matt Frattin from the Toronto Marlies (AHL) & assign Jay Rosehill to Marlies.
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by Likely on Feb 25, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

yes! finally!

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by TannShazamm on Feb 25, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I was expecting Kadri but I’m totally fine with Frattin. I want to see what he can do with some confidence.

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by Likely on Feb 25, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m guessing this callup was more defense-oriented

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 25, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Any word who is sitting Crabb or Lombardi?

by jeffgm on Feb 25, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Guessing Crabb they havent confirmed it but Jonas mentioned Army and Lombardi were both going to go tonight

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Matt Frattin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgUADDm-pX0

it's sad, but living in B.C. has caused me to hate the Canucks more than the Habs. almost.

by Kevin Costner on Feb 25, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

so good

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by Likely on Feb 25, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Awesome

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Feb 25, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes.

Hope he plays his heart out.

And not in a Gus way.

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by not norm ullman on Feb 25, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope he does too

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 1:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

#teamFrattin

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 25, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s climbing in your windows, he’s snatching your mowers up, so you need to hide your kids, hide your wife and hide your husband, because they’re Frattining everybody out here.

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Feb 25, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

How annoyed is Burke that Howsen scooped Boyce – barn fight?

by jeffgm on Feb 25, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Meh, Boyce is UFA come July 1st.

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by SkinnyFish on Feb 25, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Needed him for long post season run with the Marlies.

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 25, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

meh, Marlies are still doing well. They got Ziggo.

by Goosemonster on Feb 25, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

They’ve been doing pretty good without him.

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by SkinnyFish on Feb 25, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

They could have sent Orr to Reading though.

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 25, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

No they couldn’t. His 1-way contract is too large for the ECHL’s weekly salary cap.

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by SkinnyFish on Feb 25, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Had no idea they had a cap too. Interesting. Looks like Orr is buried as far as he can go then.

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 25, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

From their FAQ page

What is the salary cap in the ECHL?
The weekly salary cap for 2011-12 is $12,400 and the weekly salary floor is $8,700.
Colton Orr makes $5,405 a day; $37,835 a week; 3 times the ECHL salary cap.

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by SkinnyFish on Feb 25, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

So if they carry a 20 man roster

That is roughly $500/week per player. For a 30 week season they make about 15 000/season? I guess they all have other jobs.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they are allowed to provide housing and stuff like that for them though, so their expenses are minimal.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I would imagine they work other jobs at least in the off season. Even if it is just as trainers at kids hockey camps or skating instructors or something like that.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Possibly. A lot of them are young guys so it’s not a huge deal I don’t think, they live like college kids and work out a lot.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Ask Justin Bourne…

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

That would make sense.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

My budget isn’t very big either… I have one buddy who lived off of 12 500 (masters stipend) and was able to afford a car and save a little. Still not sure how he managed that…

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

From Justin Bourne ex ECHL player...
Justin ‏ @jtbourne

@E_Pintar It is low, but everything is paid for. Rent, water, electric etc. Per diem and meals on road. You barely spend.

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Even a per diem and meals? That explains it too.

Thanks for checking it out.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats on the road you get per diem and meals.

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I know what you meant.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s what I figured, Matt Stanisz (was at Leafs camp) was offered that deal to go to Reading this year… he took scholarship to play hockey at Carleton instead though. I wasn’t sure if it was the stuts-quo though or something they offered to younger guys playing away from home.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Cool. Do you know him?

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

My brother played hockey with him when they were kids, I golf a lot with his dad.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

They also get room and board paid for I think…

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Reading this further
What is the NHL/AHL affiliate payment?

The NHL/AHL affiliate payment for 2011-12 is $525 per week. Any affiliate amount other than $525 per week agreed upon with any NHL/AHL club will be considered a salary cap violation. This includes excess payments for equipment, travel, etc.

Does this mean that players who get demoted to the ECHL take a pay cut? Rynnas for example made 67 500 this year (not to mention the 90 grand in signing bonus).

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Shut up, I want a BARN FIGHT

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

In all honesty

I wonder if (as cheapshot suggested) Burke would be somewhat pleased as a “players GM” that Boyce will get NHL time/salary.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Clitsome

I don’t get exactly why CBJ would waive this guy, I know nothing about him but when they have Brett Lebda in the lineup I find it weird.

Clitsome has averaged 17 mins per game, and is only a -6 on a horrible CBJ team (Methot -11; Nikitin -14; Moore -18; Wisniewski -19; Tyutin -25)… and he has 14 points. I don’t watch Columbus so I haven’t seen him play, so what’s the deal?

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 12:46 PM EST reply actions  

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Scott Howson just waived a defenseman who was better than the one he traded Jeff Carter for. I feel so bad for Columbus fans.

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When you have Oilers fans feeling bad for you, you know you’re in trouble.

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by daoust on Feb 25, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

If the Leafs are planning on trading one of our D-men for a forward/centre, we should claim him!

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by TannShazamm on Feb 25, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Well we already have an “extra” Dman (Phaneuf, Gunnar, Liles, Franson, Gardiner, Schenn, Komisarek = 7), and can always call up Aulie or Holzer.. I don’t think Clitsome would be a big upgrade on any of these guys.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Well let’s face it, Aulie isn’t good enough and I don’t think Holzer is ready yet. If we don’t move one of our D-men, there wouldn’t be a point in claiming him. Won’t happen anyways, but I like the guy, and his name.

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by TannShazamm on Feb 25, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Needs to be claimed for name alone.

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 25, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

So when they brought in Lebda and now Clitsome became expendable?
Serious – Lebda lol!

They have too many defenders.
Wisniewski Tyutin
Johnson Methot
Moore Nikitin
Lebda Savard
Johnson, Martinek, Clitsome

by jeffgm on Feb 25, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

They clearly don’t need Gardiner or Schenn as part of any deal for Nash. Komi, Lombardi, Armstrong and a 5th for Nash

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 25, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I have heard good things about both Savard and Moore. So in other words keep them off that clusterfuck of a team until Howson is fired.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Bob McKenzie ‏ @TSNBobMcKenzie
NYR have traded Wojtek Wolski to the Florida Panthers.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

hahah Florida

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Nash to NYR to follow?

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by CameronSorley on Feb 25, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Hope Nash enjoys NY

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by LeafFan1989 on Feb 25, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

for a 3rd per Kyper

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by LeafFan1989 on Feb 25, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

not a horrible deal. I’ve always seen potential in Wolski, it just hasn’t translated yet and it probably never will, but worth the risk.

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He says a 3rd is involved, I don’t think he said that’s the exact deal.

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Darren Dreger ‏ @DarrenDreger

3rd round pick and minor league player from Florida for Wolski.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

yep, cap space cleared.

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by LeafFan1989 on Feb 25, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

25 year-old, 28 points in 68 games this year in AHL.. career minor leaguer, just trade for SPC space.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Good move by Florida to add scoring depth and size.
He is a UFA so will be interesting to see if he resigns next year.
I thought if rangers were clearing cap space they would have accepted less.

by jeffgm on Feb 25, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Wolski is in fact an RFA. That is why he returned some sort of value.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, not really IMO. Because he’s RFA, he has to be qualified for $3.8M or go UFA

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Forgot about the QO being so high.. Nevermind.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

What the heck happened to this guy? He scores 50 points at 20 years old, is given a couple “show us what you got” contracts, and just completely sucks

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 25, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

though he did have a decent 2009-2010 season

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 25, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Injuries.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

concussion, hasn’t been the same since

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

SBS

Steve Bernier Syndrome

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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

he sucks?

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

He was a really really good prospect/young player for Colorado. Him and Marek Svatos (32 G in 61 GP in his rookie season. He was leading Ovi/Crosby in rookie goal scoring for a while IIRC) both were. Both have crapped out.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

remember when the Sens got Svatos?

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Svatos

Had 73 G in his first 189 GP (32 G over 82 GP).

Over the next 151 GP he had 25 G. Messed up. Maybe Sakic was just making him look awesome.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

he got a really bad shoulder injury the year after he put up 30 goals

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

That would explain it. He was a fun player to watch back in those first few seasons.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

He also had 23 goals and 65 points as a 23 year old. I thought he was underpaid when they resigned him after that. Clearly the team saw something that I didn’t.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

They’re clearing room for someone. Hopefully it’s not for Dustin Brown.

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Please use reply button so people know who you’re responding to.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Please use your face!

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 1:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Face

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Now you’re just confusing things…

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by clrkaitken on Feb 25, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Hah reply fail.

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by TannShazamm on Feb 25, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

We should claim clitsome and reacquire sweatt. Pick up laich and semin abd play them with mckegg. The puns will never end.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 1:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

reporterchris saying no Grabovski extension before the deadline. This is awful.

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by Chemmy on Feb 25, 2012 1:15 PM EST reply actions  

could get traded!

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by TannShazamm on Feb 25, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

please, no. #resignGrabbo

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by kudzupo on Feb 25, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

doesn’t mean he’s gone

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by Likely on Feb 25, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Chris Johnston ‏ @reporterchris
To be clear: Grabovski hopes to remain with #leafs — he just doesn’t want to focus on contract talks during important stretch.

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by Likely on Feb 25, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s dumb… if that was the case he would have signed the contract by now.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

if he hasnt by sunday night…

by Goosemonster on Feb 25, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s what I’m saying, he doesn’t want to focus on trade talks, but if he isn’t signed or traded before the deadline it’s going to be a huge thing hanging over the rest of the season.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I know we cant replace him easily, if we cant sign him and he wants big money than we get nothing for him.

by Goosemonster on Feb 25, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Not necessarily. There are still 4 months left until free agency; lots of time to work a deal out. However, Burke might not have the patience.

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by SkinnyFish on Feb 25, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

It depends on whether he wants big money. If he does he’ll test free agency.

by Goosemonster on Feb 25, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Grabbo is playing a game of chicken with Burke.

by jeffgm on Feb 25, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Burke blinks first but not in the way Grabo wants.

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope

They’ll let the deadline pass and work it out after our playoff exit and before the draft.

No worries guys.

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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

There isn’t much time between the finals and the draft though.

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 25, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Pretty silly

Considering from all reports he has basically not been involved with the talks at all. I guess final decision is still his…

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I still firmly believe he’ll be a Leaf July 1. Extension will happen.

2 more days and the agent has more leverage.

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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

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Reimer starts in goal tonight.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

Thank fucking god

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by Chemmy on Feb 25, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully he ends the night in net too

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by happiergilmore on Feb 25, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Amen. That’s the properly optimistic response.

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by rift valley on Feb 25, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Rolston (and his 5M 35+ contract) also waived by the Islanders. He is a veteran leader, but can’t seeing anyone taking him. And too bad his cap hit remains even if he is find his way to the AHL, so no chance of needing Komi’s contract to replace that one yet.

by jeffgm on Feb 25, 2012 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

Why does the cap hit remain?

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 25, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

+35 contracts… can’t get rid of that cap hit for pretty much anything.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I can’t believe NJD ever managed to get rid of it in the first place.

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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Lamoriello gets what Lamoriello wants. Period.

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Capgeek tweeted that they get $100,000 off.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Strip out 5M for Rolston and 4.5M for Dipietro (and a few million in bonuses for Staos, and the rookies) and you have a good case for effective cap circumvention. They probably have salaries worth 35M of “effective” nhl talent. I’m surprised they are even where they are in the standings.

by jeffgm on Feb 25, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Next year they have a few big contracts go into effect though.. mostly johnny T’s

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

WOO

1-0 blues

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 2:27 PM EST reply actions  

huh, so guessing lines are something like
Lupul-Bozak-Kessel
Kulemin-Grabovski-MacArthur
Frattin-Connolly-Lombardi
Brown-Steckel-Armstrong

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Put Frattin up with Grabbo!

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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

My guess is that but swap Frattin and Kulemin.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope not

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

If it’s not working Wilson will bust out the blender, I don’t mind if they try it out.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Frattin got called up to replace Boyce on the 3rd line, he wants 2nd line time, he earns it

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

The counter-argument or justification would be that he’s earned it by playing well with the Marlies (not saying I agree with this).

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

counter-counter argument would be Joey Crabb

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Love me those lines.

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by JP Nikota on Feb 25, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Would have been nervous had they split up MGK tonight. We need to roll them against the intense Ovi line, of Ovi, a good sophomore, and JaredFromLondon Aucoin.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Amazing how healthy this team has been. The lines have looked like this the whole season.

by scott tubbesing on Feb 25, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

?

Connolly, Army, Bozak, Grabbo, MacArthur, Brown, Steckel, and Lombardi have all been injured up front.

On the back end:
Liles, Komi, and Gunnar have all been injured.

In net we lost our starting goal tender.

How can you say we have been healthy?

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m surprised at how durable Kessel has been the past couple seasons.

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 25, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

He has been durable his whole career.

He has missed 12 games, 3 separate times.

Once for mono and he came back early wearing a metal plate over his spleen.
Once for offseason surgery
Once for testicular cancer. HE BEAT FUCKING CANCER!

GO KESSEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

WOOOOOOOOo

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 25, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

my theory is once he kicked cancer’s ass, all other maladies were like “fuck this shit, I’m out of here, this guy is a machine”

by Goosemonster on Feb 25, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

L-B-K
M-G-K

Phaneuf, Gunnar, Gards, Franson, Schenn

have all been extremely healthy.

Even Connolly has been healthy for Tim Connolly. I guess it depends on how you look at it. I wasn’t talking about goalies per se.

by scott tubbesing on Feb 25, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Bottom 4 forwards

Are pretty interchangeable on this team

by scott tubbesing on Feb 25, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Grabbo has missed 6 games, MacA 7. I wouldn’t call MGK that healthy.
Bozak has missed 9, but the other 2 have been healthy.

I think we have been pretty middle of the pack.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s fair but vie never really felt like we had major injury concerns besides the Reimer injury early in the season.

by scott tubbesing on Feb 25, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Oddly enough they were playing better when we had injuries. Everyone got excited when everyone came back healthy and have sucked since

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 25, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I would say they really started stinking when Gunnar got injured.

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by kudzupo on Feb 25, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Only significant player to miss any considerable length of time is Reimer. Other guys have missed a bit here and there, but our long-term injuries have mostly been to guys like Komisarek and Colby.

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by Draglikepull on Feb 25, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Good. Joey crabb sucks

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YA BUT V.v.V!!!!!!

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 25, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

No seriously, Joey crabb is a 4th liner.

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awesome name tho!! real plugger real great guy great in the room that anchorage boy!! V.v.V!!!!

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 25, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Gardiner:

:o

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

They play hockey in Southern California!

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

SHARK!!!!

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

RIIICOOOOLLLAAAAA

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

These warheads are so sour!

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I showed her my “O” face

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Feb 25, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

:O

it's sad, but living in B.C. has caused me to hate the Canucks more than the Habs. almost.

by Kevin Costner on Feb 25, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

If Marleau was the shark in the actual picture this would be even more accurate.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Didnt you post this yesterday?

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by leafer1984 on Feb 25, 2012 2:43 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Not me. But I think it was up way late.

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Feb 25, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

That looks like a tasty waffle, Olli!

Reimer = My hero.

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by Raycroft 2.0 on Feb 25, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy shit! That’s the Bieb!

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Just need some facepaint to finish my new wrestling outfit

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by Kevin Costner on Feb 25, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

.

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by Frag on Feb 25, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

im lost: where is Orr and Boyce went to who?

by power-forward on Feb 25, 2012 2:47 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

Orr has been on the Marlies for weeks.

Rosehill got waived yesterday, cleared, and is now being sent to the Marlies.

Darryl Boyce got claimed on waivers by Columbus.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Almost months! (WOOOO)

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Orr: AHL since forever?

Boyce: to Columbus, in Columbus.

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by kudzupo on Feb 25, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

what was the echl talk about?

by power-forward on Feb 25, 2012 2:49 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

irrelevent.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

nhlcheapshot likes this

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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I left Halak on the bench for y’all.

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 25, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

go go gadget david perron

by power-forward on Feb 25, 2012 2:52 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I'll be honest

I read “go go gadget david porn”

I was confused.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

You aren’t the only one

If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach

by Ghostsof on Feb 25, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

perron has been on fire this season, lets hope he pots a few more, blues are getting outshot pretty bad

by power-forward on Feb 25, 2012 3:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

5-1 pittsburgh after 2 is nice as well

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by kudzupo on Feb 25, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

noo :( I wanted my Fleury SO…

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

me too

by power-forward on Feb 25, 2012 3:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

needless to say...

a huge game tonight…probably one of the most important this season…how will the buds come out and play? I’m going to say they beat the Caps tonight in regulation…likely a 4-2 final…looking for Kessel and Lupul to do well….Go Leafs Go!!!!

by phunky on Feb 25, 2012 2:51 PM EST reply actions  

well it was 4-2...

but not for our Leafs…wonder if burke is going to do a harold ballard and sell on impulse….

by phunky on Feb 25, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I will be stuck at the Bruins/Sens game tonight. Fuckin Sens.

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by joe leaf fan on Feb 25, 2012 2:59 PM EST reply actions  

Auld will be starting. Lulz.

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 25, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s big, he’s bald, his name is Alex Auld!
Lichtenstein! Lichtenstein!

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

He has been weighed, he has been measured, and he has been found wanting… hair.

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by joe leaf fan on Feb 25, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

per Scott MacArthur ‏ @TSNScottyMac

#Leafs lines vs. #Capitals: Lupul-Bozak-Kessel, MacArthur-Grabovski-Kulemin, Lombardi-Connolly-Frattin, Brown-Steckel-Armstrong. #NHL
#Leafs D vs. #Capitals: Gunnarsson-Phaneuf, Liles-Franson, Gardiner-Schenn. G: Reimer (Gustavsson backs up.) #NHL
#Capitals lines at #Leafs: Ovechkin-Johansson-Aucoin, Hendricks-Laich-Brouwer, Chimera-Perreault-Semin, Beagle-Halpern-J. Ward. #NHL
#Capitals D at #Leafs: Alzner-Carlson, J. Schultz-Green, Orlov-Wideman. #NHL

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

nailed it

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

The Leafs lines were actually out way earlier today, just didn’t notice until now and nobody had decided to post them on here.

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by Shield on Feb 25, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

that caps lineup doesnt scream contender to me. Which is why im wondering why their coaches have gotten so much grief this year

by l3ojangles on Feb 25, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I was just thinking the same thing. Their D in particular.

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by rift valley on Feb 25, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Add Backstrom back in and don't do such ridiculous lines

Ovi-Backstrom-Johansson
Brouwer-Laich-Semin
Chimera-Perrault-Ward
Eakin-Halpern-Eakins

Plus you have Knuble

That D corps still has 2 of the best offensive D men, plus an apparently good prospect (Orlov), a good up and coming 2-way guy (carlson), and 2 solid defensive guys (apparently) in Schultz and Alzner.

With one of the best goalies in the game behind them (Vokoun) I still think that should look like a contenders roster…

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

i believe vokouns struggles this year speaks to the quality of their defence

by l3ojangles on Feb 25, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Vokoun

Career .917
This year .917

Not really struggling that much

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

On the flip side

His lowest the last 4 years was a 0.922 and this is his lowest since 03-04. He is playing below his normal self, but not that much.

(It took him a bunch of years to hit his stride. They are holding down his career average).

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s also 35 and probably declining a bit

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 25, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Could very well be. He has been inconsistent this season. Started great for 7-10 games. Was horrible for about 2 months (his save percentage was approaching 0.900 on the season) and since has been bringing it back up to respectability. He was actually above 920 until a few bad games the last 2 weeks.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Too bad. But Mike Weaver joined the Panthers at the start of 2010 so that can’t explain his earlier seasons.

by jeffgm on Feb 25, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow

AHL-All Star and NHL-scrub Keith Aucoin is playing on Ovi’s other wing? And Matt “I had 25 points once” Hendricks is on tehir second line?

I think the line with this years most succesful players may be Chimera-Perrault-Semin…

Also is there big free agent signing Joel Ward on the fourth line? That team is having a clusterfuck of a season.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Recall Kessel’s wingers and centre a couple years back.
I don’t think that Kessel need to use that as an excuse for lack of production

by jeffgm on Feb 25, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Phil Kessel with Joey Crabb as one of his primary wingers last season – 64 points in 82 games

Kessel with Lupul this season – 65 points in 61 games

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by Draglikepull on Feb 25, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Thaar be two teams that need help at “C”, says I.

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by JP Nikota on Feb 25, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Ehh not really

They just need a healthy Backstrom. Once he is back they have him, Laich and Johansen as their top 9 C’s.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Johansen could step back next season

He’s shooting at 16.2% this year, and last year he was a 12.7%.

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by JP Nikota on Feb 25, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I also think you missed a beautiful pun.

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by JP Nikota on Feb 25, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Goddamn it! It was good too!

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck…Winnipeg scores

by TheDeek on Feb 25, 2012 3:19 PM EST reply actions  

Holy fuck, fuck these refs listening to the fans.

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by joe leaf fan on Feb 25, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

FFFFFFFUUUU

pre-game ceremony tonight. We’re boned.

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by thenumber14 on Feb 25, 2012 3:24 PM EST reply actions  

for whom/what? please tell me itll be like 3 mins tops

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by kudzupo on Feb 25, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

honouring the 1962 cup winning team, it’ll be a 10 minuter while they wheel out all the old guys.

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by thenumber14 on Feb 25, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

what? why?

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

because it’s the leafs

what haven’t we done in a while? let’s do that. the fans need something to cheer besides hockey, why not decades-old nostalgia?

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by thenumber14 on Feb 25, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

So there will be

A 50 year one next year and the year after, sweet Jesus.

by scott tubbesing on Feb 25, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Rolo should retire this year. Can’t see a team take a chance on him.

by jeffgm on Feb 25, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck Winnipeg tied it. We need this win tonight.

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by Alspicer on Feb 25, 2012 3:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Blues are playing like shit

by TheDeek on Feb 25, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Shots are 34-9 Winnipeg….time to wake up St Louis

by TheDeek on Feb 25, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

shots 33-9 for WPG

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 25, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

there is no fucking way that is accurate

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

it looks like it is

by power-forward on Feb 25, 2012 3:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

been watching the whole game, they might have 20-25

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Could be, everything seems to favour Winnipeg at home so why not have inaccurate stats?

by TheDeek on Feb 25, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

This is a reason the stats guys use road fenwick (shots) and not home + away when evaluating team.

by jeffgm on Feb 25, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Has anyone looked at home vs away goalie SV%.
It maybe that SV% might be inflated by road effects.

by jeffgm on Feb 25, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve only seen a bit of the second and its been all Winnipeg, Blues acting like they are killing a penalty when its 5 on 5

by TheDeek on Feb 25, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

the Jets also arn’t landing a lot of shots, the blues are blocking a lot and the jets keep missing thenet

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

play doesn’t seem that lopsided to me but WPG has definitely been in control

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 25, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

im torn, i have 3 jets on my fantasy team but on the other hand, fuck that noise

by power-forward on Feb 25, 2012 3:54 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Fuck fantasy teams, go leafs go!

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Go Perron Go, Hit Kane Hit, And go leafs go

by power-forward on Feb 25, 2012 3:57 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Does Steve Ott play wing or center?

by TheDeek on Feb 25, 2012 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

Nevermind, looks like center. Got confused because TSN kept listing him as LW

by TheDeek on Feb 25, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

don’t care, long as he doesn’t play it for the Leafs

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Canucks seem to be the likely destination. I didn’t think that team could get any more annoying

by TheDeek on Feb 25, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m confused as to why we are in on him, where exactly would he play?

by TheDeek on Feb 25, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

On the truculent line of destroying our future prospects and cap space. Because everyone knows Burke only picks up players who are truculent.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t forget pugnacious.

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by rift valley on Feb 25, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

they could get matt Cooke back

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I would be OK with acquiring Ott on one condition – swap him for Bozak. He’s good defensively and plays a much more physical game than Bozak. Could work well with Kessel and Lupul.

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by Draglikepull on Feb 25, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s Colby Armstrong pre-injuries that plays C. For $3.125M

I’ll take Bozak.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

$2.95M

whatever

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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

anyways, the Leafs don’t need another 40 point player

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Unless they’re coming up through our own system on an ELC or something (Kadri/Colborne). No need to go out and spend assets on one.

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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

well yes, or is a Dman

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Ryan Suter anyone?

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Colby’s last year before he joined the Leafs saw him face middling competition with unimpressive results. Ott plays some of the toughest competition on his team with the 2nd best Corsi REL (the only guy ahead of him plays very weak competition). Ott wins 57% of his faceoffs and has thrown 204 hits this season. He’s not an elite player by any means, but he’d be a better match with Kessel than Bozak is, and I’ll bet you if you switched Bozak and Ott’s linemates they’d put up reasonably similar point totals.

Anyway, I don’t really care whether we trade for Ott or not, but I think he’s better than he appears just by looking at his boxcars stats.

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by Draglikepull on Feb 25, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Army was a very good 2-way forward in Atlanta according to the heavy lifter index at hockey prospectus.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

We don’t need to make this a pissing contest. Fuck both of ’em.

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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

here is a simple quiz for if the Leafs need a forward
A- Is this forward an elite talent who can score against tough competition?
B-Is this forward an very good 2 way, physical guy who can be put out to shut down top offence and will be cheap to attain/keep?
C- Is this forward a young, cheap, promising prospect?
if the answer is no to all of these, we dont need him

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I am not the least bit interested in Ott. Just pointing out that Army was known for defensive play before coming here too. Didn’t want him eitehr.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

oh I know

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Wanna hear something funny?

Gomez brought NYR a better package than Carter brought LA

Scott Gomez + Tom Pyatt (a very meh prospect who turned into a meh 4th liner) + crap
for
Ryan McDonough (Montreal’s top prospect at the time) + Chris Higgins (who at the time looked like at least a second line winger. Had 84 goals in 280 games from 22-25. That is 25 G in 82 GP) + crap

So top prospect + young 2nd line winger
vs
one dimension expensive defender + first.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 4:01 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Huh. Chalk one up for Glen Sather.

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by JP Nikota on Feb 25, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Never let a Montreal fan even attempt to mock the Kessel trade. This is the response.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

For all the well deserve Sather bashing for a while there, he’s actually put together a pretty good team since the lockout and done pretty well on the trade market.

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by Draglikepull on Feb 25, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

He signs terrible contracts

But moves them so well!

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

For that he has a great skill. Gomez deal is still mind blowing

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 25, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember at the time of the trade

Habs fans trying to justify it by saying that McDonough was no longer a top prospect in Montreal and Gomez had good seasons in the past. L.O.L.

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by Frag on Feb 25, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

And they paid a stiff price for Carter 8 months ago.

by scott tubbesing on Feb 25, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone please explain to me why we want Steve Ott?

I can’t think of a reason.

by Huey2k2 on Feb 25, 2012 4:02 PM EST reply actions  

Where did this rumour even start, anyways?

well, that escalated quickly

by aelanK on Feb 25, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Guy in Dallas trying to drive up the price? Lets hope

by TheDeek on Feb 25, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

TSN I think

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

TSN also started the Brown rumour

LA has no intention of moving him for cap space apparently. For some reason they thought LA could move him for Schenn + even though Schenn has a higher cap hit. It’s silly season alright.

by scott tubbesing on Feb 25, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

McKenzie still thinks Brown can be had for the right price.

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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

the right price is probably pretty high

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

The discussion TSN had wasn’t that they were moving him for cap space, it’s that they were moving him so they could make Mike Richards the captain.

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by Draglikepull on Feb 25, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

They could do that in the offseason. Doesn’t really make sense to do that mid-season. Plus LeBrun for sure mentioned the cap space thing.

by scott tubbesing on Feb 25, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

No clue, hes useful but it would be a waste of a pick/prospect

by TheDeek on Feb 25, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

"We" don't. Media seems to think Burke does.

Another pest, 29 years old, $3M, 15 goal / 40 point potential…. he’s a healthier Colby Armstrong or something

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

HOLY SHIT

VESA WON TODAY!

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by Frag on Feb 25, 2012 4:04 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

2012!!!!

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I started a blog.

by rift valley on Feb 25, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Good god these teams are boring

by TheDeek on Feb 25, 2012 4:19 PM EST reply actions  

why do these assholes get bob cole

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by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 25, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

such a waste

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 25, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, pretty damning words from Rick Nash’s agent:

Bob McKenzie ‏ @TSNBobMcKenzie

We’re hopeful a deal can get done prior to the trade deadline that is fair and equitable for the Blue Jackets. However, if a deal is not reached, then the list of acceptable teams will not change at a later date.

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by Draglikepull on Feb 25, 2012 4:29 PM EST reply actions  

Trade me right fucking now!

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by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 25, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

You call New York, tell them bullshit.

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by SkinnyFish on Feb 25, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Chris Botta ‏ @ChrisBottaNHL Close
@TSNBobMcKenzie Nash’s no comment/body language at MSG last Sun. said it all, Bob. Respects Columbus, but wants this over now.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm just going to say it

I think it would be hilarious of NYR wasn’t on Nash’s list.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the only two “confirmed” teams on the list are the Bruins and the Leafs, and LA turned out to not be on it even though everyone was talking for a while there as though LA was going to acquire him . . .

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by Draglikepull on Feb 25, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. And I can never tell if Leafs are on lists just to amp up trade prices so whatever.

I think shit is going to get messy if he doesn’t get traded by monday. It will likely get done at the draft if he doesn’t.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounded like it was originally CBJ that approached Nash to wave. Would be quite the clusterfuck not to trade the guy afterwards.

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 25, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like Howson thinks he can get better offers in the summer. This is Nash’s agent’s way of saying “You can wait until the summer if you want, but you’ll be talking to the same teams.”

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by Draglikepull on Feb 25, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I knew he’d want to get the fuck out of there

by Goosemonster on Feb 25, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Jets getting at least a point.

by TheDeek on Feb 25, 2012 4:34 PM EST reply actions  

WPG gets at least a point

FUCK

99% of player salaries are payed out to only 1% of players. #OccupyNHL
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by MLS on Feb 25, 2012 4:34 PM EST reply actions  

Doesn’t really matter if Leafs can’t FUCKING WIN ANY OF THEIR OWN GAMES ASJFDASDJF

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

rofl, true enough.

by TheDeek on Feb 25, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

They been helping us for a while

I can’t complain now. Washington been shitting the bed all season so we’ve got to bury them now.

by scott tubbesing on Feb 25, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Whoah, that Winnipeg fan looked exactly like Creed Bratton from The Office.

well, that escalated quickly

by aelanK on Feb 25, 2012 4:35 PM EST reply actions  

Every game is worth 2 points

But this game feels like it’s worth a LOT more. Team you’re tied in 9th with and last game before the deadline.

by scott tubbesing on Feb 25, 2012 4:39 PM EST reply actions  

One thing that I can take positively out of this day is that Frattin is back with the big club. Well, until whatever happens leading up to Monday happens.

Can it before I drive this truculence through your faceulence and put you in an ambulance.

by Brunswick Bruiser on Feb 25, 2012 4:40 PM EST reply actions  

Shootout in Winterpeg

by TheDeek on Feb 25, 2012 4:42 PM EST reply actions  

woourns

Leaf fan in Ottawa.

by joe leaf fan on Feb 25, 2012 4:49 PM EST reply actions  

BLUES WIN!! Totally undeserved, but we’ll take it

by TheDeek on Feb 25, 2012 4:49 PM EST reply actions  

thank you david perron

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by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 25, 2012 4:49 PM EST reply actions  

thanks stl

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 25, 2012 4:49 PM EST reply actions  

Fuck the Thrashers

it's sad, but living in B.C. has caused me to hate the Canucks more than the Habs. almost.

by Kevin Costner on Feb 25, 2012 4:49 PM EST reply actions  

Winnipeg loses in a shootout

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by MLS on Feb 25, 2012 4:49 PM EST reply actions  

This is the whitest crowd ever

by TheDeek on Feb 25, 2012 4:50 PM EST reply actions  

Malkin scores this like a hot knife through butter.

Toronto Maple Leafs: Lupul is Lupul backwards
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by LeafFan1989 on Feb 25, 2012 4:54 PM EST reply actions  

wow

that man has skills

Think before you post!

by Bowling_Guy25 on Feb 25, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

that was so dirty it’d been flagged as inappropriate on youtube

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 25, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Malkeen sucks111 A gud Canadian BOY would hav hit every1 bef4 he scored that goal! Soft europeeings!

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

But seriously

Wow. That was incredible.

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by BCapp on Feb 25, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow.

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- Niels Bohr

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by Frag on Feb 25, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

We used to do that drill, except we used pylons instead of man shaped pylons.

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Feb 25, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Malkin is putting up Crosby level PPG (1.4). Bask in his awesomeness.

"I myself am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."

by Blinky on Feb 25, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

good thing Sid got the gold!

Lebda still gives me nightmares
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by TannShazamm on Feb 25, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Kadri makes it 1-0 for the Marlies
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Woot! RT @cookwithnikki: Just started, and it’s already 1-0 for the #Marlies !!! #letsgomarlies!!!! Go #Kadri Woot woot!

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 5:15 PM EST reply actions  

MOAR NASH-OCITY (Apologies if posted previously)
The Leafs have been actively pursuing a top-six forward for several weeks, and have been very much involved in negotiations for Columbus Blue Jackets superstar Rick Nash.

In order to acquire Nash, though, the Blue Jackets are asking for defenseman Jake Gardiner, center Joe Colborne, right wing Matt Frattin and a first-round pick, a price tag the Leafs’ management brass believes is too high.

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/tor120225.html

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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 5:18 PM EST reply actions  

WAY too high. Yeah.

Can it before I drive this truculence through your faceulence and put you in an ambulance.

by Brunswick Bruiser on Feb 25, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

hahahahahhaah, no

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

the rangers “apparent” offer is Dubinsky+Mcdoughna/MDZ + 1st and a conditional 2nd

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

oh yeah, and Erixson

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

HERP DERP HERE IS OUR FUTUREZ

Can it before I drive this truculence through your faceulence and put you in an ambulance.

by Brunswick Bruiser on Feb 25, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Just a weeee bit high

-"I'm not drinking and driving, I'm driving while I'm drinking....Right boys!?"
Lest we forget: Brett Lebda

by kudzupo on Feb 25, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol wouldn’t trade Gardiner for Nash straight up.

/blueandwhiteglasses’d

well, that escalated quickly

by aelanK on Feb 25, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s also the fact that Gardner has been one of our best defenders in his rookie year.

by Goosemonster on Feb 25, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Would you say he was generational?

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Feb 25, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't

Blue and white glasses or not, there is a good argument to be made that Gardiner for Nash straight up is a bad trade for the Leafs.

by samspade on Feb 25, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Trying to make up for the Carter deal?

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by AM18 on Feb 25, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

that would be the definition of mortgaging the future.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 25, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Leaf fan in Ottawa.

by joe leaf fan on Feb 25, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh God don't read the comments

Just… don’t. Other fun paragraphs:

One league executive, speaking on the basis of anonymity, told TFP the Leafs would like to get their hands on two top-six forwards, which could also result in them dealing center Mikhail Grabovski.

:((((((

The Maple Leafs are also eyeing the likes of Dallas Stars forward Steve Ott, Philadelphia Flyers left wing James van Riemsdyk and Colorado Avalanche center Paul Stastny.

Stastny’s high salary might make it difficult for the Leafs to pull the trigger, though the Avalanche has scouted Toronto heavily in the last two months.

MOAR STASTNY RUMOURZZZZZZZZZzz

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I only post this

As TFP was the one who was shadowing Burke last week for a few days. Maybe they know something, maybe it’s bullshit.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

So what you are saying is that next year the Leafs top line will be Kessel -Stastny – Nash?

Y'all heard about me, you just didn't know it was me

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

anything in the Toronto papers or on TV/radio…about Getzlaf? Or is that option dead now?

by wayne scarlett on Feb 25, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d rather Stastny than Nash….

by Goosemonster on Feb 25, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

levels of want

Stastny > JVR > Nash > Ott

well, that escalated quickly

by aelanK on Feb 25, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Stastny's our best bet

a young, good centre. Good character from what I’ve read. Wonder what it would take to get him

Lebda still gives me nightmares
Bees! Bees! Bees in the car! Bees everywhere! God, they're huge and they're sting crazy! They're ripping my flesh off! Run away, your firearms are useless against them!

by TannShazamm on Feb 25, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Apparently lots

But Sherman sucks at trading

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

which is why I’m kind of excited about this rumor.

Lebda still gives me nightmares
Bees! Bees! Bees in the car! Bees everywhere! God, they're huge and they're sting crazy! They're ripping my flesh off! Run away, your firearms are useless against them!

by TannShazamm on Feb 25, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

COL is 2 points out of 8th, I wouldn’t hold my breath.

by lucc on Feb 25, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

probably changed from the summer…but at least a 1st and a roster player…..which would have to a Komisarek level contract,I would think…isn’t Stastny in the 5.5 to 6.0 million range?

by wayne scarlett on Feb 25, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Stastny contract is 6.6 million for each of the next two years after this one……it might be doable if the Avs are in dump mode….but they are in the race….Grabbo and Schenn(6.5 combined)..with no picks?

by wayne scarlett on Feb 25, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

LOLOLOL DO IT BURKIE!!!1

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by rift valley on Feb 25, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Malkin this season.

"I myself am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."

by Blinky on Feb 25, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Er, SBN just spazzed my reply…

"I myself am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."

by Blinky on Feb 25, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

It twitched at the suggestion of trading Gardiner, Colborne, Frattin and a 1st for Nash.

well, that escalated quickly

by aelanK on Feb 25, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

frattin is in the minors most the time Gardiner plays 12min a game with mistakes Colburnes a joke and the draft coming is weak so u do the math

"I myself am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."

by Blinky on Feb 25, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

wat?

Y'all heard about me, you just didn't know it was me

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Comment from the 4th Period article lol.

"I myself am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."

by Blinky on Feb 25, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I couldn't have been more clear

Oh God don’t read the comments
Just… don’t.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow those were bad. Like, I don’t know THAT much about hockey but it makes me seem like fucking Einstein.

by Goosemonster on Feb 25, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

They were hilarious. I can’t pass that up.

"I myself am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."

by Blinky on Feb 25, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s a good one

The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts.

by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 25, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

how many times is she going to mention the fact there is a fan

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 25, 2012 5:18 PM EST reply actions  

Looks like

Neuvirth in net for Washington

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 5:33 PM EST reply actions  

I wonder why hmmm hmmm

by Goosemonster on Feb 25, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

because Vokoun will be in net…. for the Leafs!

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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I was more referring to the whole “Vokoun’s agent disses coach” thing but yeah…

by Goosemonster on Feb 25, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

now that would be hilarious.

Lebda still gives me nightmares
Bees! Bees! Bees in the car! Bees everywhere! God, they're huge and they're sting crazy! They're ripping my flesh off! Run away, your firearms are useless against them!

by TannShazamm on Feb 25, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Uh
Adam ‏ @adam_prus Close
Woah RT @iMissSundin Radim Vrbata is one goal behind Phil Kessel. LOL

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 5:54 PM EST reply actions  

that’s just weird

Y'all heard about me, you just didn't know it was me

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 25, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Hot damn this guy must be going HAM or something.

"I myself am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."

by Blinky on Feb 25, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Phoenix 9-0-1 in the last 10…about to win again. I want Dave Tippett…

by TheDeek on Feb 25, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

They’re the anti-Leafs in like, a lot of ways

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I dunno, someone made a good case for Marc Crawford at @askbrianburke

The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts.

by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 25, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Jacques Martin?

"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr

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by Frag on Feb 25, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I personally would like to see Robbie Ftorek. When was the last time Ron Wilson threw a bench on the ice?

The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts.

by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 25, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I want anyone not named Ron Wilson….likely to be Dallas Eakins….hopefully

by wayne scarlett on Feb 25, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Vrbata once scored like 60 goals for me in NHL 2004. I always knew he had it in him.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull

by Draglikepull on Feb 25, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Goodbye sweet prince, you did all your little 4th liner legs could do
Darryl Boyce ‏ @dboyce47 Close
Thank you #TML for everything, giving me my chance, lots of great people to thank in the organization! Excited to be heading to #CBJ

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 6:04 PM EST reply actions  

Guess he’ll get more playing time there…not much else to be excited about

by TheDeek on Feb 25, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

7x the paycheque than on the Marlies

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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

CBJ could offer him a 1-way contract next season, which the Leafs weren’t going to do.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull

by Draglikepull on Feb 25, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

The Tim Brent special.

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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Excited to be heading to #CBJ

I’m so sorry!

"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr

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by Frag on Feb 25, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Excited to be heading to #CBJ

Fixed it.

Lebda still gives me nightmares
Bees! Bees! Bees in the car! Bees everywhere! God, they're huge and they're sting crazy! They're ripping my flesh off! Run away, your firearms are useless against them!

by TannShazamm on Feb 25, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Good for him – good attitude – glad for him he is not wasting away in AHL

by jeffgm on Feb 25, 2012 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re just all sorts of fun today.

"I myself am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."

by Blinky on Feb 25, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Check out the sponsored message for Chad LaRose at Hockey-Reference:

Ed Racketa Jr. sponsor(s) this page.

You might be bigger, better, stronger & faster than Chad LaRose but, you will not outwork him or do you have the HEART,DESIRE,DRIVE & PASSION that he brings to each and every game.

That’s, um, a thing.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Feb 25, 2012 6:24 PM EST reply actions  

Money well spent

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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 25, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

the more I watch Jake Gardiner….the more I am reminded of a young Borje Salming…..smooth skater…better defensively than most give him credit for…..and can hit like a mule when the need arises

by wayne scarlett on Feb 25, 2012 7:58 PM EST reply actions  

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