Keith Aulie Traded To Tampa Bay For Carter Ashton
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The Keith Aulie Era in Toronto is over as he has been traded to the Tampa Bay Lightning for prospect Carter Ashton. This move is likely driven by the emergence of a number of young defencemen with the Marlies as well as Keith Aulie not being very good at defence.
Actual analysis after the jump:
What Are The Leafs Getting
First up, a couple of scoring reports. From the SBN Scouting Report:
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And now from Hockey's Future (Google Cache page because Leafs fans crashed it)
Talent Analysis
Ashton has developed into a consistent two-way performer and has quietly impressed scouts. Ashton possesses pro size and has demonstrated that he understands and accepts his role. A polished player with regards to the defensive nuances of the game he has added some offense to his game and drives to the net hard. Ashton's skating technique may need to improve as he advances to higher levels. Ashton is the son of former NHL winger Brent Ashton, who played 998 regular season games in the NHL.
Future
Ashton will have an opportunity to win a roster spot with the Lightning in camp but will likely return to juniors for at least one more season. He is still developing in terms of skating, technical skills and offensive instincts but he has the desire, size and strength to be a successful power forward at the NHL level. He has the upside to be a top line player if he develops a complete offensive game.
Carter Ashton's father Brent was an NHLer (284-345-629, 998 GP) so he has some pedigree which kind of makes this like the Blake Geoffrion deal! For what it's worth, the most common descriptors used on Ashton as that he has good size and knows how to use it and that he skates well. Not for a big guy but well so that is encouraging when you start looking at the Leafs' depth at forward. He'll join a young group that includes Matt Frattin, Nazem Kadri, and Joe Colborne. Depending on how Brian Burke decides to cull the big club those are four guys that will be competing for full-time spots next year. I'd love to see them eased into the NHL as a kid line used against easy competition.
Lightning coach Guy Boucher certainly seemed pretty high on him during training camp this year:
His NHL equivalency figures provide some insight. Remember that one assumption is that these are based on the players being used in similar roles and are based on looking at players that have made similar leaps. What I've done below is taken each player's goals, assists and points, converted them to a "per game" rate, multiplied them by the league equivalency number, and then expressed them as an "NHL equivalency" assuming an 82-game season. I've used this article for the translations from the AHL which gives us a value of 0.44.
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| 55GP | 18 | 16 | 34 |
| Per Game | 0.33 | 0.29 | 0.62 |
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| 82GP | 12 | 10 | 22 |
Carter Ashton certainly seems to play a game similar to Matt Frattin's in that he skates well, uses his size, crashes the net, and has some good hands at the AHL level. He can play either wing which is good long-term to give the Leafs flexibility. As Mirtle notes, he's still in the AHL at this point because he is a bit raw.
What The Leafs Are Giving Up
When Brian Burke completed the Phaneuf deal two years ago Keith Aulie was mentioned as a piece that he had to have. Like Ashton he had been on Canada's World Juniors team and had paired with Tyler Myers in shutting down the rest of the world. His stints with the Leafs were uneven. His first was poor, his second was strong, and his third was poor. Even more disconcerting was that after the strong end to last year he was unable to make the team out of camp this summer. In our Top 25 Under 25 ranking Aulie was 10th but it's worth noting that we voted before his call up this year. Clearly we still had a lot more confidence in his potential going forward.
Michael Farber was just on TSN making some pretty funny comments about Aulie. He noted that last year when he played with Phaneuf that he looked like he could form part of a top shutdown pairing. I guess he only watched games after the trade deadline. He added that Aulie came into camp with a sense of entitlement and that was part of why he was cut.
However, Aulie's good luck last year was written about in depth. Cam Charron looked at the glaring differences in Aulie's two call-ups and found that a lot of the uptick in his box car stats could be traced to the strong play of James Reimer. This past September, Jonathan Willis pondered the question of whether Keith Aulie was ready for a top four role as was suggested during training camp. The conclusion, Aulie gave up the most shots on the blueline and benefitted from the best on-ice save percentage by a mile.
Conclusion
This past season has been by all accounts really rough. He's usually been the Marlies' worst defender and he has been passed by a number of players including Korbinian Holzer (#15 PPP Top 25 Under 25) who Marc Crawford noted had likely passed him in the depth chart among defensive defencemen. We had previously wanted to see him get a shot at the NHL after a number of call-ups to check out the press box amenities. He needs to be re-signed this year to get a shot but Aulie moving clears one hurdle. A fresh start in Tampa may be just what he needs. He may yet become a quality NHL defencemen but he's a guy that will soon lose his ability to pass through waivers so a long-term decision had to be made.
In Ashton, the Leafs simply add another player that may help fill out the bottom half of the Leafs' roster down the road. If you can get those spots filled more cheaply then that makes it easier to pay your top six talent. The emergence of some of Carter or his new cribmates would help, along with canning guys like Colby Armstrong, free up cash to re-sign Mikhail Grabovski this summer. All in all, it's the classic "new situation" trade. Hopefully, it pans out.
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Did we win?
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 27, 2012 3:07 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
That’s a weird spelling if it’s pronounced Stamkos….
by elseldo on Feb 27, 2012 3:08 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
We won because it moves Korbinian up on the depth chart……
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by Alspicer on Feb 27, 2012 3:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
So they can call him up sooner to sit in the press box?
I kid, I kid.
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Everything I have read and heard about Ashton
Makes me think this was a good trade, obviously we won’t know for a few years, but hey, seems good right now.
As is implied in the second last sentence...
The best part about this trade is that it demonstrates just how Burke thinks about the Leafs from here. To infer that he’s shoring up the bottom 6 with low-risk (potentially high-reward)-type players, and leaving more room to sign top 6 players, to me, is a great sign.
It reminds me a bit of how the Blue Jays have been doing things over the last few years. They’ve been stocking up on guys (filled) with potential, on the hopes that a few of them will hit (and be solid players).
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by Jeremiah Stanghini on Feb 27, 2012 3:21 PM EST reply actions
The Hockey News...
…ranks Ashton as Tampa Bay’s top prospect in their upcoming Future’s Watch edition.
by The Norris on Feb 27, 2012 3:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Crazy
Well, that’s encouraging.
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Just asked him – Connolly doesn’t count, because he’s played an extended stint in the NHL. Makes more sense with that in mind.
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I think Holzner makes the deal a win for the Leafs. We were dealing from a place of abundance with Holzner and Schenn. Power forward, truculence.
yeah and he’s only 20 years old (soon 21), so he’s got time to develop.
by Goosemonster on Feb 27, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
If the whole hockey thing doesn’t work out Carter Ashton, Stuart Percy and Brad Ross should at least be able to start up some kick-ass investment banking firm…
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by clrkaitken on Feb 27, 2012 3:42 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
that’s not your best work.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Feb 27, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
Re: Burke Bringing in a Canadian for once
He clearly thought he was trading for US Deputy defense secretary Ashton Carter
by AkiSchennberg on Feb 27, 2012 3:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
heh
I saw someone else mention that. Hilarious. Maybe Burke’s plan it to nuke teams if they won’t trade us their good players.
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Good summary, thanks. Now do one for Mark Fraser and Dale Mitchell, please.
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hahaha
Birky’s tweet about the deal happening will be the extent of the coverage of that trade.
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Sounds about right.
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by theninjagreg on Feb 27, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
Today:
Tremendous yawn fest.
Hodgson/Kassian biggest pieces to move?
Slow day indeed.
Oh yeah, later Aulie, good luck dude.
Ashton, welcome aboard. Bring the testosterone or the compete, we lack both atm.
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by mass9 on Feb 27, 2012 4:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
And, you know, the goals. Some of those, too.
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And if you could swing through Boston on your way north and pick up Tuuka for us, that’d be swell.
by 300 Stitches on Feb 27, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
Failing that, swinging through Ottawa and knee-capping Alfie would endear him to the fan base in a big hurry as well.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 28, 2012 1:42 AM EST up reply actions
the app won’t let me reply to alischennberg up there.
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by elseldo on Feb 27, 2012 4:04 PM EST via Android app reply actions
You’re kidding
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 27, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Woah dude, settle down a bit, no?
Obvious sarcasm not so obvious?
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by mass9 on Feb 27, 2012 4:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I love the trade for the Leafs because Cater Ashton is better at hockey than Keith Aulie but I question the notion that the Leafs have more depth on D in the AHL than they do at forward. In their most recent game against Hamilton they played 5 D, 13 forwards with their D being Aulie, Holzer, Engel, Gysbers, Mikus and Jay Rosehill taking shifts on defence. In the game before that they had the same 5 and some guy named Andrew Martens playing D. Now obviously Blacker is missing from that while he’s injured but I don’t think guys like Engel, Gysbers and Mikus have much of a future on the Leafs.
by scott tubbesing on Feb 27, 2012 4:17 PM EST reply actions
well they’ll have Percy by the end of March.
by elseldo on Feb 27, 2012 4:19 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I wouldn’t be surprised if Mikus is in the conversation but Blacker, Percy, Mikus, Holzer on top of the guys in the NHL. Obviously, a guy like Komisarek is probably on his way out this summer. They’ve got Granberg and MacWilliam on the longer track but Burke will probably look to fill in gaps via trade/UFAs but for the next while, for better or worse, the Leafs’ D is pretty set especially on Aulie’s side.
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by Steve Burtch on Feb 28, 2012 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
I think the important difference is prospect depth. First off keep in mind that there are roughly twice as many forwards on an NHL team than d-men.
We have Blacker, Gardiner, Holzer and to a less extent Mikus and Gysbers + Aulie for 6 professional prospects.
Compare that to Frattin, Kadri, Colborne and to a lesser extent D’Amigo, Scott, and Mueller
6 vs 6, but again remember there are twice as many forwards than D….
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I mentioned it above but we also have Lashoff (who I think has a better chance of sticking with an NHL team than Mikus or Gysbers) and then Finger and Fraser for vet leadership on top of the 4 kids ppl are talking about… Thats 7 men deep without counting Percy and Gardiner who will both likely come into the lineup at some point during the playoffs.
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I know this is off-topic, but does anybody know anything about Anaheim defenceman Mark Fraser? Toronto traded Dale Mitchell for him.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Feb 27, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Looks pretty crappy: http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_statistics.php?c=0+1+3+5+4+6+7+8+13+14+29+30+32+33+34+45+46+63+67&ds=1&f3=MARKFRASER&f1=2011_s+2010_s+2009_s+2009_p
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by theninjagreg on Feb 27, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
I hear he is a defenceman
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About Aulie: It’s too bad things didn’t work out for him in Toronto. I was hoping he would stick around for a while. Oh, well. I hope that he does well in Tampa Bay. I hope that this Ashton Carter guy works out for Toronto.
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Yzerman: “Acquiring Keith Aulie is something we’ve been talking about with Toronto for a long time…he’s a young player. big, mobile d-man”
LOL mobile
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His entire description is essentially useless. Young player. That doesn’t really mean anything in itself. Big. But does he use his size? Is he just a huge lug nut? Being big means nothing in itself. Mobile… that’s a joke, as you pointed out.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Feb 27, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder is Aulie can develop into Hal Gill. Wouldn’t be a bad return for Tampa.
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Aulie might end up being good. I like the return we got for him though.
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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 27, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
Gill was averaging 20:54 TOI at 23 for the Bruins. No ATOI for his earlyier years but played 68 games for them at 22.
I like the trade, like many have said above, Holzer made Aulie expendable.
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Maybe he meant “mobile” like those things you hang above kids cribs which flail around as the wind blows…
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 28, 2012 1:45 AM EST up reply actions
Ashton Carter (I keep screwing his name up as both of his names seem like they could double as first and last names) seems like he has only found his scoring touch this year in the AHL. his junior numbers are unimpressive. hopefully he finds more minutes here and puts up a better pace. Seems like a third liner to me. Still not a bad thing as if he can score at the NHL level he is something this Leafs team could use.
by pho king awesome on Feb 27, 2012 5:32 PM EST reply actions
Power forwards numbers are not usually anything special in junior, however he was a first round pick in 09 so he must have some upside to his game
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by happiergilmore on Feb 27, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
why is that? Power forwards numbers no good in junior?
by pho king awesome on Feb 27, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
They don’t play a game where they skate through guys and snipe they bump and grind and compliment those finesse players but don’t do a ton of the actual scoring I guess?
But their style of play translates very well to the NHL
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by happiergilmore on Feb 27, 2012 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
same age?
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by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 27, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
what are there numbers at same age? That’s the key to Junior comparisons.
by schennsational on Feb 27, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
in 2009-10 Cashtown (yes, that’s going to be a thing) was:
65GP 24G 27A 51P
Also played 11 G in AHL that year where he had 1 goal.
If he is not quite Lucic that’s not too bad.
by Leaf in Habland on Feb 27, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
I’d be pretty fucking ecstatic if he turned out to be not quite Lucic
by schennsational on Feb 27, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
His numbers are average-to-good for being in his first year as a pro. I think he was AHL rookie of the month back in October with something like 13 points in 10 games. The talent is there.
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yep AHL numbers have looked good, hopefully they continue to get better with the Marlies.
by pho king awesome on Feb 27, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
Ashton reminds me a lot of Caputi when we acquired him. Lets hope he pans out a little better.
Both were the second best prospect of their organization (Tangradi and Connolly were ahead of them).
Both are bigger guys who we have hope turn into a power forward.
Caputi had a better junior career, but their first year in the AHL (at roughly the same age) was pretty similar.
Lets hope Ashton pans out better.
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I think Caputi might have been better if he hadn’t been so hobbled by injuries.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 27, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
Meh. He never really did get a shot.
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He only played 19 games in the AHL last season due to injuries. Then he had 3 points in 21 games for the Marlies. Not sure where/when he’d have been given a bigger shot.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 27, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
He was up with the Leafs and either benched or 4th lined for a while last year. Besides that though he was given a decent shot.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 28, 2012 1:47 AM EST up reply actions
Well, that was stomped out pretty quickly.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 28, 2012 9:00 AM EST up reply actions
Really glad we got Ashton out of this he is a god prospect and could turn out to be maybe another eric cole or good second line power forward
He looks like a good prospect and has 19 goals so far at they age of 21 thats not to bad in your first pro year. Think Aulie became expendable with the play of Jesse Blacker And Korbin Holzer in they AHL two good young D men who probably passed him in the depth chart.

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