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After this morning's post from Steve (in case you needed something to depress you) there's probably one pressing question that you are asking yourself right now: How many coaches have missed the playoffs four years in a row? Well, Old Man Forbes was going through his back catalogue of The Hockey News on microfiche and came across the answer. As you might have divined by the title, there have been, by Forbes' candelit reckoning three coaches that have missed the playoffs four times in a row with one team.
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Frank Boucher of the New York Rangers 1942-43 to 1946-47
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Frank Boucher is, it turns out, a fascinating individual. He is a Hall of Famer from the pre-World War II NHL that won the Lady Byng as a Ranger seven times and was a four-time all-star. Joe Pelletier has a great look at his place in that era but what caught my eye was his coaching prowess:
While best known as a player, it should be noted Boucher later coached the Rangers and captured the Stanley Cup in his first season as a coach. His coaching record isn't great as his team was decimated by War and struggled for years to regain elite status. Boucher's biggest problem was he never had a player as good as he was. He was an innovative coach. He developed the now common box penalty kill formation. He also was the first coach to pull his goaltender for an extra attacker.
He is actually one of two men on this list to make it to five years without leading his team to the playoffs. I guess winning a Stanley Cup buys you some rope. He made it to the semi-finals the next year so maybe we just need to be even more patient. Of course, astute observers will not that that achievement is diminished slightly when it's just a proxy for 'making the playoffs'.
Barry Trotz of the Nashville Predators 1998-99 to 2002-03

Fire me? Have you seen my budget?
Second on the list is a contemporary of Ron Wilson who also made it five years without seeing the playoffs without being fired. In fact, he's the only coach the franchise has ever known. Yes, that's right, the five years he missed the playoffs were the franchise's first five years in the league so you might argue that he was building from scratch in much the same way as Ron Wilson has had to do in Toronto after JFJ's Reign of Error. Of course, if you dig a little deeper you'll see that after that rough start, the team has made the playoffs seven of eight seasons (including this year) and topped 100 points three times with a good shot at making this year his fourth. So maybe this is a good example of the value of patience...until you remember that Nashville's been doing it with smoke and mirrors and under the threat of relocation (not that relocation rumours or trade deadline rumours have any impact on the NHL's hockeybots).
Wayne Gretzky of the Phoenix Coyotes 2005-06 to 2008-09
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And finally we come to a true comparable for Ron Wilson. The Great One's career as a player needs no introduction. One of the greatest players to ever lace them up decided that he wanted to coach so what better place to begin than as a head coach. After all, isn't parachuting into the league how he got into the NHL in the first place? Luckily, the job came along with a bit of ownership in the franchise which likely extended his job. It also meant that he was able to hire all of the Friends of Gretzky to management positions. Minus the ownership, that last bit kind of sounds like how Ron Wilson is holding onto his job. Of course, Wayne's failure provides a glimmer of hope as he is apparently the only coach to have missed the playoffs with one team to get canned.
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Remember when all the mittenstringers were recommending Gretzky coach Team Canada. Gretzky is proof a bad/wrong coach can completely misrepresent the true ability of a team as Tippett showed when he took over.
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by furcifer on Feb 28, 2012 12:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
“Innovative” is one word to describe the Leafs penalty kill…
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we’re always finding new innovative ways to suck at it. So there’s that.
by Goosemonster on Feb 28, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Reading this it seems pretty obvious the closest comparison is Trotz,.arguably one of the best coaches in the league. Speaking of which how do you make the playoffs 7 out of 8 years using smoke and mirrors and where can we get some.
if by "smoke and mirrors"
You mean “exceptional goaltending and a top-to-bottom commitment to team defense” then I think I just answered it.
Guess who Nashville’s top scorer was last year? Martin Erat. With 50 points. Tits The Younger with the same.
That being said, Fire Ron Wilson.
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So, I see one coach who missed the playoffs for 4+ years because he was given an expansion team with a miniscule budget (and he still has a low budget). The other had a team decimated by war, and the third, was a brand new coach who’d never had a head coach position in his life. What’s Wilson’s excuse?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 28, 2012 12:44 PM EST reply actions
Just playing devils advocate; but I would say the leafs haven’t had a playoff calibre roster since Wilson came to Toronto and still don’t. The coach doesn’t have the budget, the GM does, if Poile has done more with his salary cap then Burke this has nothing to do with Wilson. Not that I blame Burke either I think he has done well considering the abortion he inherited.
I have no problem with firing the coach, just dont think its the answer.
In case you were wondering this is not Ron Wilson although I am throwing the team under the bus.
No one predicted how bad the east would be. If it weren’t for losing 8 of our last 9, even if we just won 3 or 4, we’d be in a playoff spot right now.
by Goosemonster on Feb 28, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
I still believe Burke should have fired Wilson over a year ago.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 28, 2012 1:08 PM EST reply actions
I’m just shocked that in the entire history of the NHL, only four coaches have accomplished this.
I hope Wilson isn’t back next year.
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This. Especially when you consider that Trotz and Boucher were each somewhat exceptional cases and that Gretzky only kept his job because he owned the team. It seems like keeping Wilson would be a pretty much unprecedented experiment.
To be fair, though, it could be argued that a higher proportion of teams miss the playoffs now than before the 30 team era; and that constant coaching turnovers for lousy teams is often a symptom of lousy management higher up looking for scapegoats. Still, I’m getting tired of a team that has the same weaknesses every year despite regular personnel changes on the ice.
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by Back In Black on Feb 28, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
See this is my approach with Burke, not necessarily with Wilson. Anyone that follows any European soccer league can think of clubs that are just absolute dogshit because they are swapping managers every time things go semi-sideways. The most famous example is obviously Alex Ferguson at United but Rafa Benitez at Liverpool ran into his first real bit of trouble (and had two dumb, full of shit owners) but they canned him for the media and fan’s preference: Roy Hodgson.
Ask any Liverpool fan with a clue and they’ll tell you that Hodgson was a complete and unmitigated disaster. Obviously, Burke won’t set out to hire a worse coach but you never know the impact of changing mid-stream will have on a club. Even with King Kenny back, the club’s not close to being the team it was under Benitez.
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I have a lot of patience with Burke; most of his moves seem to me to be good ones (not counting Komisarek) and show consistent long-term thinking. But while I really do think churning through coaches can be a harmful practice, Wilson’s starting to look like the opposite extreme.
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by Back In Black on Feb 28, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
whats ted nolan up to these days?
I mean it. Bring him back.
by bringbackbower on Feb 28, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
4 years of NHL coaching, hasn’t had an NHL coaching job since 2008….no thanks
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 28, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
Is Wilson the only one of the 4 to have done this under two different GMs?
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Is Wilson the only one of the 4 to have done this …
Are we calling it a season already? 3 pts out and 20 games to go… Turncoats!
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by Goosemonster on Feb 28, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
If we quickly go down 2-0 again tonight I think Burke should pull the trigger at the intermission. The last three weeks the team simply hasn’t been prepared. I blme coaching for this, our terrible PK and our recently inept PP……
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I’m not even sure where to look it up, but I’d be willing to bet a team has never fired a coach mid-game…
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Can someone tell me the difference between:
08/09, 09/10 Combined record: 64-73-27
and
10/11, 11/12 (59 GP) Combined record (so far): 66-58-17
There’s one distinct element that was different between those 2 sets of years..
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There’s one distinct element that was different between those 2 sets of years..
The lineup?
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I was going for Toskala as the answer, but my next point was also going to be the quality of the rosters in Wilson’s 1st to years (which I don’t think any coach could have coached to success)
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Wilson has been victimized by two things:
1) His team sv % (not really his fault)
2) Penaltykill % (totally his fault)
I actually posted on this this afternoon
http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com
Though to what level can the problems with the PK be attributed to the embarrassing sv%?
Obviously there’s no way to know, but how would the PK have been had we not had Toskalol?
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
PK sv % is less a product of goaltending skill than it is of the system in front of it, if I had to guess. At least that’s the rationale I’ve been using to support dressing Reimer over Gustavsson
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Counterpoint: Toskala
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
lots of hatred for Wilson...
I said it quite a while ago that Wilson is not the coach to that will take the Leafs to the next level…we need someone who can bring some creativity and an ability to devise several plans in their approach…I have no idea why Burkie was so quick to give Wilson an extension….making the playoffs will definitely determine if Wilson is back next season…especially after Burkie gave a complete endorsement for the current roster….
Which available coach fits this description?
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presumably there is someone. i don’t buy it that there aren’t any good coaches out there to be hired. hell Hitchcock was available for years and look what he’s doing now with St. Louis.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 28, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
To me it depends who’s out there after the playoffs. We can always just go with Eakins, but I’d prefer seeing if any playoff teams drastically underperform and get rid of their coaches
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
How did that work out the last time the Leafs hired a coach whose team had drastically underperformed in the playoffs and was canned?
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by CanadianMaple09 on Feb 28, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
I for one hate boring trap hockey.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 28, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
Two available coaches I can think of that have experience
- Randy Carlyle
- Jacques Martin (Hello boring trap hockey)
Anyone else?
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Do we really want Randy Carlyle? The one who took his team to last place with Ryan-Getzlaf-Perry?
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do we really want Boudreau who took the presidents trophy caps to the brink of the lottery this year?
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 28, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 28, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t disagree with the extension; it means Wilson isn’t a lame duck for the rest of this season, and gives him a golden handshake when the inevitable firing occurs. I guess that if this slide continues, he could be gone even before the end of the season, but not if Eakins is the true heir apparent…I think Burke wants to see the Marlies have a good playoff run, which would be a valuable learning experience for players and coaches alike. However, if Randy Carlyle (for example) is felt to be next in line, Wilson could be gone by the weekend if this team keeps laying eggs.
Nevermind
Komisarek in Franson out… Fire Wilson.
I’ll count the chances generated by Komisarek pulling himself out of position.
by Goosemonster on Feb 28, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Franson’s not very good at defence either.
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at least he offers some semblance of offense to make up for it. Komi offers…..nothing.
by Goosemonster on Feb 28, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Franson hasn’t done fuck all offensively in like a month
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 28, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
I still maintain that Komi looked pretty good in his last game against Edmonton
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
He was having his best season as a Leaf prior to breaking his arm.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 28, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions

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