Welcome Back Tank Nation
by Chemmy on Feb 28, 2012 10:23 PM EST
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There's nothing left to say, the Leafs have done it again. This is a poorly constructed team, a poorly coached team, and a team with poor players.
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Does Tank Nation serve Kool-Aid?
Soooo tempted to take a drink right now.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 28, 2012 10:24 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Save a glass for me! It’ll wash the waffles down nicely.
Riding the Leafs bandwagon since 1991.
Check out my art!
by CanadianMaple09 on Feb 28, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m making waffles right now.honest truth.
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Feb 28, 2012 10:32 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Well I know what I’m having for breakfast.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 28, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sherman Tanks for everyone
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Feb 28, 2012 10:25 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
everyone
go look at these charts. they’re fucking hilarious they’re so depressing.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 28, 2012 10:25 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Ah, that’s fantastically terrible!
"I myself am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."
by Blinky on Feb 28, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Tonight’s games sum it up completely. Each team we needed to win didn’t.
99% of player salaries are payed out to only 1% of players. #OccupyNHL
I'm a Twitter twat.
CanadianMaple09 is an effective Facebook stalker.
by MLS on Feb 28, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
there’s only one team we need to win, and they haven’t done much of it lately.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 28, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We nosedived almost as hard as the Bruins went to 100%
Dat rebuild
by BlindSight on Feb 28, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that right there is the definition of FML
by leaflover4ever on Feb 28, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No need to be angry, you might as well laugh. This team fucking sucks and they’ll always fucking suck.
Hope we all got our laughs in when Ottawa was ruining their draft pick.
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by Chemmy on Feb 28, 2012 10:26 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Nothing rhymes with Dumba but that’s the kid I want.
by schennsational on Feb 28, 2012 11:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Slumba for Bumba. NAILED IT ( instead of studying for microbial diversity midterm i’m going to fail in 25 minutes.
by schennsational on Feb 29, 2012 7:40 AM EST up reply actions
GO LEAFS GO
REIMAR NEEDS PLAY BETTER. TRAED KESEL FOR NASHE. FIRE WILSON. SCHENN IS TEH BEST. BRING UP KADRI. TRAED KOMISAREK FOR NASHE. DION GOOD AT HOCKEY.
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
sorry I just summed up “leaf talk with Andy Frost” for everyone.
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
by thenumber14 on Feb 28, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
Leaf Talk is one of life’s great comedies.
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Feb 28, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
You mean one of life’s great tragedies. I weep for humanity in the few seconds I hear it (takes that long to turn it off).
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 28, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
if you can’t laugh at it it’ll make you insane.
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Feb 28, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
I’m humping it in a call center right now to pay the bills. Now that makes you weep for humanity.
You’re right, you gotta laugh tho.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 28, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
To clarify – I mean the calls. The fact my career trajectory put me there is funny as hell and a fail on my part I’m working to rectify.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 28, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
I feel so helpless.
I cannot help the Leafs win.
Where’s the Übermensch?
by Holidays in the Sundin on Feb 28, 2012 10:27 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
So, we’re going to need to figure out what to do with the site in the next few weeks. We’ll need to do something to stop people from feasting on each other’s brains. If you have thoughts lemme know.
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by Chemmy on Feb 28, 2012 10:27 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
thoughts come from brains!
braaaains
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Feb 28, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
Start covering a different team
I sacrifice my signature to the Based God.
by Archimedies on Feb 28, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
the marlies?
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
by thenumber14 on Feb 28, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Hey there’s an idea… they might actually win something.
We can just pretend like they’re the Leafs and they’re in the Bizarro world NHL playoffs
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I wish man. I really really wish.
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by Chemmy on Feb 28, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Technically, you wouldn’t be switching teams as it would imply that we could call this pile of crap clad in blue and white a ‘team.’
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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 28, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Technically, Tampa wears blue & white and their initials are TBL…
by LeafInVancouver on Feb 28, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
that’s like TML
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
by thenumber14 on Feb 28, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
what do you mean?
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Turn it into a comedy/gif website
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
by Semi_Colon on Feb 28, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Mostly I’m thinking about not blogging anymore. I’m tired of making excuses for a team run by idiots.
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by Chemmy on Feb 28, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, I’m almost done as well. i think i’m going to go back to being a ‘casual’ fan like I was in the early 2000s.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 28, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
A-fucking-men to that.
IF this team actually gets into the playoffs again… ever.
Only THEN will I watch them. Until then… FUCK THIS SHIT.
by c_gee on Feb 29, 2012 1:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
just tweet more about food. we dont’ need more tweets about your dog.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 28, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
I will always appreciate tweets about dogs.
Unless they’re about giving your dog an STD. Fuck that guy.
by LeafInVancouver on Feb 28, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
But if you don’t blog, and PPP doesn’t blog, what do we do? Drag the staff of HSHS out of retirement?
"I myself am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."
by Blinky on Feb 28, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Its the beginning of the end my friends.
Dat rebuild
by BlindSight on Feb 28, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Applicable?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4WJlLNIsyY
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
You need to find some good existentialist literature so you can come to enjoy the catastrophe that is this team.
by handknit on Feb 28, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
or a country-western internet radio. Komisarek will need a job soon anyway.Your late night cowboy dose with DJ Komi-Tose
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Feb 28, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
just bring back the CC. I care not for the leafs.
we’ll share funny GIF’s and ruin each others chances at ever getting promoted.
I love you guys
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
by thenumber14 on Feb 28, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Yes I like this idea. We don’t have enough of those anymore (I think there have only been a couple since I joined a year ago).
99% of player salaries are payed out to only 1% of players. #OccupyNHL
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by MLS on Feb 28, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well it’s because most of the regular chatters left. I used to start the CC for a while. Anyone can.
My rambling tweets
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing - Vince Lombardi
For those of us that are new, forgetful or bad with acronyms, what is CC?
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 29, 2012 1:40 AM EST up reply actions
Chatty Cathy. It was a daily feature for non-hockey talk. Mostly filled with gifs, stories and NSFW jokes and on one unfortunate day a penis.
My rambling tweets
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing - Vince Lombardi
by furcifer on Feb 29, 2012 1:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The best part was it was from the guy who used to write the FTB posts (from the branches – the daily links etc) so the next day was the best FTB ever. Still unsurpassed.
My rambling tweets
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing - Vince Lombardi
by furcifer on Feb 29, 2012 1:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
who?
I will stand beside him with an axe! @theninjagreg
by theninjagreg on Feb 29, 2012 1:54 AM EST up reply actions
blurr
My rambling tweets
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing - Vince Lombardi
by furcifer on Feb 29, 2012 2:00 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was here for a very brief time before Komi-gate, so I do in fact remember blurr
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by sportsfan2 on Feb 29, 2012 2:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I wasn’t very active due to going back to school, then work during Komi-gate but it was pretty jarring to return and see all the people I’d known leave in a mass exodus.
My rambling tweets
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing - Vince Lombardi
by furcifer on Feb 29, 2012 2:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ayup
"You have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Feb 29, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Somebody always has to cock it all up.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 29, 2012 1:47 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly. The FTB I mentioned was full of great double entendres and links many phallic like pictures.
My rambling tweets
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing - Vince Lombardi
by furcifer on Feb 29, 2012 1:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Tank comfort in cheering against Ottawa and Van City.
by scott tubbesing on Feb 28, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hah meant to say take. I’m already on board with the tank.
by scott tubbesing on Feb 28, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Start primarily covering Marlies news. Lets do it. Im ready to get super pumped for a Calder run.
Dat rebuild
by BlindSight on Feb 28, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Adventures in Minor Hockey – where we talk about the craziest shit from our minor hockey days
Another installment of Our best chirps from beer league
Watching D2 and figuring out how the hell that tournament could have worked.
Subsequently. Projecting Charlie Conway and Adam Banks’ post high school hockey careers.
Cynically Sarcastic
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Review players from Leaf history, and how they would have fixed the most recent epic fail.
E.g. Luke Richardson would have sent Jack Skille through the boards and into the third row of seats, making it impossible for him to set up the second goal. Or Al Iafrate would have intercepted the original pass from Gudbranson and charged back up ice for a highlight reel goal…
O! To join the rush / As the season builds
by Back In Black on Feb 28, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
More podcasts. Because somehow you guys would be able to make this situation seem funny.
Certified Delusional Optimist
by TheOtherAndrew on Feb 29, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
Somehow I just know Boyd Devereaux will fuck up the Leafs’ chance for a lottery pick.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
by SkinnyFish on Feb 28, 2012 10:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
one of the leaf scouts saw him on battle of the blades and they signed him.
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Feb 28, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m going to go stick my head my head in the oven now. Good night.
Lifelong Leafs Fan living in Habs Country.
by JeanValjean on Feb 28, 2012 10:31 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Twice even
Lifelong Leafs Fan living in Habs Country.
by JeanValjean on Feb 28, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
WAIT
If you have an oven, why would you steal bread? Why wouldn’t you just bake some?
by LeafInVancouver on Feb 28, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 28, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i love how they put the ‘no funeral’ sign on his back so it wasn’t ambiguous.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 28, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he might be just repairing it. you never know.
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
by thenumber14 on Feb 28, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
so why is he not getting a funeral?
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 28, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
because he wouldn’t need one if he was still alive?
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
by thenumber14 on Feb 28, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
I assumed it was so people didn’t think he was repairing the oven, and died in a tragic oven accident, subsequently giving him a funeral
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
What ever happened to that Fuck Tank Nation guy?
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Feb 28, 2012 10:32 PM EST reply actions
fire wilson
trending worldwide, if hes not fired before tomorrows game people are going to be calling for Burke
by None N on Feb 28, 2012 10:33 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I think there’s starting to be a reasonable argument to dump Burke.
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by Chemmy on Feb 28, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
the longer he stays the course on a losing team/coach the longer it looks like he doesn’t know what he’s doing.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 28, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Unaddressed problems, yeah.
“Reimer’s the answer in net”
“Gus saved our season”
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by Chemmy on Feb 28, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
“Wilson’s record speaks for itself”
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 28, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
“Komisarek/Armstrong/Phaneuf is a [insert platitude here] player that many teams would want to have”
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 28, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Great. They can can have the first two for a 4th.
"I myself am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."
by Blinky on Feb 28, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Never again will I be short on goaltending" (Burke speaking of Toskala)
by jeffgm on Feb 28, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I could care less what Jonas Gustavsson Brian Burke says to the media.
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
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by Bower Power on Feb 28, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Really? Personally, I couldn’t care less what he says
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by leafer1984 on Feb 28, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Typo. I hate that screwup, too.
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
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by Bower Power on Feb 28, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You’re a good sport
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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I like Burke on a personal level, but this pretty much sums it up.
"I myself am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."
by Blinky on Feb 28, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think there are a good list of negatives. I think they’re probably still trumped by the list of positives.
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by Bower Power on Feb 28, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think Burke has one more year to show progress.
Wilson’s time is up.
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by mf37 on Feb 28, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We really can’t afford to walk out of this offseason without another big piece.
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by Bower Power on Feb 28, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he’s talking about Guns. I’m pretty sure.
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
by thenumber14 on Feb 28, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Statement of agreement. We shouldn’t be sitting around in September saying “y’know, this team looks a lot like the one in March.”
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
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by Bower Power on Feb 28, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You are quickly becoming one of the most positive people here.
I’m scared, some one hold me!
"You have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Feb 29, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
If the Leafs tank hard like they look like they’re about to do I wouldnt take anything off the table.
Dat rebuild
by BlindSight on Feb 28, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This
Refusing to fire Wilson is, in and of itself, a reasonable argument to fire Burke. And there are other reasons to fire Burke. But I’ll give him one more season IF Wilson goes.
Overtime loss: The new black.
by Varry Galk on Feb 28, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
2 games in a row at home against teams your fighting for a playoff spot against from the Southeast division and your down 2-0 before some of the fans get into their seats, if thats not a clear sign of needing to fire your coach who for 4 years has not been able to get the team atleast into the playoffs then burke needs to go
by None N on Feb 28, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
When Nick Kypreos starts to make sense and speak coherently about why they should fire Wilson, you know Burke is just a stubborn ass.
by scott tubbesing on Feb 28, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t understand the whole Wilson must be fired tomorrow. Do you people think Scotty Bowman can magically make a 19 game turnaround with this group? Who gives a fuck about Wilson. He’s gone in the offseason. I don’t see a point in having an interim coach. Just wait til you have a guy and then send Wilson to retirement.
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Feb 28, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Likely right. At the very least I wouldn’t want Eakins promoted from the AHL and screw up a potential Marlies’ Calder run.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 28, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
To be honest I’m fully ready to embrace tank nation, the core is simply not good enough. If the leafs can pull off a top 5 pick this offseason I would be pretty satisfied. I’m worried firing wilson could change the chances of this lol.
by Mike9031 on Feb 29, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
At least send the message. Can Wilson, announce Komisarek is spending the rest of his career in the press box unless he waives the NTC, make a point. Waive Armstrong.
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by Chemmy on Feb 28, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah seriously, something needs to be done. The continuation of this losing streak with nothing being done is going to drive the fanbase rabid.
Dat rebuild
by BlindSight on Feb 28, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I have no problem firing Wilson and hiring Randy Carlyle tomorrow. What have we got to lose? If it doesn’t work the season’s over anyway. If it does then whoo
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by T is for Truculence on Feb 28, 2012 10:46 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
I would hope one of the assistants would take over until next year, where Dallas Eakins would take over
by pho king awesome on Feb 28, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
or honestly, maybe Burke knows Wilson is gone and wants Eakins to coach the Leafs but also wants him to stay with the Marlies for the Calder run.
by pho king awesome on Feb 28, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’d put Cronin or Gordon in charge, leave Dallas in the A.
Oh, and Zettler would be gone too. Never thought I’d hate a Leafs’ assistant more than Rick Ley.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 28, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Unless Komisarek wants to spend the rest of the season in a suit he’s going to waive his NMC
by pho king awesome on Feb 28, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hire Nash as coach. Problems (all of them, for everybody) solved. Don’t ask questions.
by MolyHackinaw on Feb 29, 2012 1:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Because it shows that somebody cares about accountability and losing.
Because the team is manifestly poorly coached.
Because if the interim coach succeeds down the stretch, we have a promising lead behind the bench for next season.
We joke about Tank Nation, and there’s something to it, but you cannot run a franchise in a way where you put up with losing games and crushing young players’ confidence. 19 more games is 19 too many.
Overtime loss: The new black.
by Varry Galk on Feb 28, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thank god we didn’t tank. Burke did an accelerated rebuild!!!
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by Chemmy on Feb 28, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"I don't wanna win a fuckin' lottery"
Or something close to that.
by scott tubbesing on Feb 28, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I would love to remember what it’s like to have a GM playing on a level with everyone else
JFJ was playing checkers when everyone else was playing chess
For whatever reason Burke has determined he needed a degree of difficulty when approaching this job
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Burke’s a fucking idiot. He ran my last team into the ground too.
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This is what I least understand. He displays loyalty and character to a fault. He will do his best to make the Leafs better, but not at the price of discomfort of his players and their families.
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by sportsfan2 on Feb 28, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Brian Burke needs to stop worrying about everything int he world that’s not “Toronto Maple Leafs winning the Cup”.
He should be circumventing the cap so hard the league is in danger of folding, not morally objecting.
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by Chemmy on Feb 28, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Exactly
Totally agree with this. We have self-imposed contract caps, self-imposed trade deadlines…it’s just too bad other teams view running an NHL team as if they play a competitive sport.
Overtime loss: The new black.
by Varry Galk on Feb 28, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He’s doing everybody else in the league a favour in the desperate hopes that he’s going to be able to call in favours of his own in the future. But since when was this a league built upon favours? Did the league do Detroit any favours after their many years of “good citizenship”? And now we’re possibly going to have two separate self-imposed trade freezes because our players are under so much pressure they can’t deal with it? Fuck that. Fuck. That.
by lucc on Feb 28, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It’s not easy to get off from such a high horse
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by T is for Truculence on Feb 28, 2012 10:54 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
Oh man, we didn’t get Brad Richards or sacrifice draft picks to sign Ilya Kovalchuk. We didn’t offer sheet that player who got offer sheeted – we only traded the exact value of an offer sheet for our best player under 25. Maaaan, these personal policies are ridiculously constrictive.
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by Bower Power on Feb 28, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That’s pretty selective. The Flyers, Blackhawks, Red Wings and Canucks, to name just four slightly above average teams, have all used cap-circumventing long contracts to either sign UFAs or retain current players and get more value from their cap space.
Overtime loss: The new black.
by Varry Galk on Feb 28, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sooo… we could have signed who?
Bower makes the point above, but seriously who the fuck could we have signed?
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
I could go back and identify the best signings in hockey, but that wouldn’t be honest and isn’t the point.
Let me put it this way: If the league allowed DET, PHI, CHI and VAN to sign players to 10+ year deals, but not the Leafs, wouldn’t you find it unfair and absurd? So why is it better when the Burke unilaterally imposes restrictions on the Leafs to be a good league citizen, despite nobody reciprocating?
Overtime loss: The new black.
by Varry Galk on Feb 28, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It’s not a question of “could Burke have gotten away with it”, it’s a question of “who has really tested Burke’s policy?” Hossa? Luongo? Pronger? None of these players put Burke’s “long tail deal” to the test, and the two that have (Richards, Kovalchuk) weren’t worth breaking the bank for.
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by Bower Power on Feb 28, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
But that’s not the point. The point is that some teams think of ways to earn a competitive advantage. I want my team to be one of those teams. It’s not.
Overtime loss: The new black.
by Varry Galk on Feb 28, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The point is that some teams think of ways to earn a competitive advantage. I want my team to be one of those teams.
In which scenario has Burke failed to display a competitive advantage? In my opinion, none of those cases where the Leafs had a real shot (read: made it to UFA) offered the Leafs a real competitive advantage if Burke had bent his “code of ethics.” Which means that his “code of ethics” is bluster much, much more than it’s detrimental to the Toronto Maple Leafs.
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by Bower Power on Feb 28, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
So you’re saying it’s not like he actually has one arm tied behind his back, he’s just pointlessly lying about having one?
Overtime loss: The new black.
by Varry Galk on Feb 28, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Brian Burke Media Management. It’s going to get him killed one day.
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by Bower Power on Feb 28, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I know right, it's not like the league punished
New Jersey right?
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that’s punished btw
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
I’m just playing devil’s advocate but here’s some players I can think of that moved during the Burke era
James Neal, Kovalchuk, Richards, Carter, Byufligen, Ladd, Vokoun, Nabokov, Theodore
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by Chuck Diesel on Feb 28, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Chris Stewart, Goligoski, Shattenkirk
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by sportsfan2 on Feb 28, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’ll agree on Vokoun, Nabokov, Theodore, and even a PTO to Emery – goaltending, and attachment to current goaltending, has been a black hole of suck for Brian Burke, yet again, despite adding bonafide prospects to a shallow prospect pond.
Knock off Kovalchuk and Richards (UFA) for reasons mentioned above, we had an offer in on Richards and got turned down without a callback. You’re down to Neal (who would our Goligoski have been?) and Carter.
Regardless, these are players that moved, not players who were missed opportunities due to Burke’s morals.
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by Bower Power on Feb 28, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah the flaws in this morals argument is that he wouldn’t have made the Phaneuf trade because it would have been mean to Calgary
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Unless he’s aware of something that will be in the next CBA from which he’ll benefit due to the way he’s conducted himself as a GM, I absolutely positively don’t understand his self imposed morality
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by sportsfan2 on Feb 28, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I have a hard time faulting a man for trying to conduct himself with honour. But I don’t think any of the other general managers give a crap
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by T is for Truculence on Feb 28, 2012 11:01 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
Glen Sather has been an idiot as a GM and has offered and signed contracts that were not in the “spirit of the CBA” but at the end of the day, he has a team at the top of the standings and a cigar in his mouth. As a fan, I don’t give a crap about anything else.
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by sportsfan2 on Feb 28, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Most CEOs are assholes. But as long as they keep raking in the profits the shareholders won’t care
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… and this is why the world is so fucked up
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
people like power and luxury, and you need money for both.
by JohnerstonRex on Feb 28, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I gotta agree. I don’t understand why he feels the need to add a higher degree of difficulty to the job. It just comes off as arrogant.
by scott tubbesing on Feb 28, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It would come off as arrogant if he demonstrated any aptitude at all for his job.
He comes off like a fucking clown.
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It would come off as arrogant if he demonstrated any aptitude at all for his job.
Besides the cup win, and building the foundation for current cup contenders? Nowadays, I wouldn’t be walking with my head so high, but he’s got a history.
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by Bower Power on Feb 28, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t give a fuck about his history. He’s been pretty bad here and I don’t think one year is going to change my opinion.
His best move is Phil Kessel and after next season we’ll be looking to move him at the deadline because we’re sellers yet again.
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His best move is Phil Kessel? Now I just think you’re trolling.
Donny, please.
by scrambles the death dealer on Feb 29, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Burkes Big Mistakes - in no particular order
Lebda
Komi
Armstrong
Not getting someone who has proven to be at least a League average goalie
Orr
Things that might have been mistakes at the time, but few were sure and many thought it might be a good idea:
Not getting a new coach
Trading for Versteeg (yah i know Burtch will say ‘I didnt want to trade Stalberg!’)
Connolly
I know i missed some (but getting Phil Kessel was not one of them)
My big problem is with the first list of mistakes – i can live with the second list because without the power of seeing into the future no one knew for sure what would happen. I just wish he was more proactive at fixing the mistakes he made. He waited too long.
I will say that he has had some pretty bad luck on how things turned out, but being a part of the Leafs organization you really should go into that job knowing that Murphys law will bite you in the ass. Burke took some unnecessary gambles and most of them did not pay off.
Unless he makes some pretty drastic moves between now and July 1st, he probably needs to go. And I like the guy…
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Feb 29, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
He inherited a terrible team and has made some brilliant moves. The free agent signings were bad, but using that cap space in another way wouldn’t make this team that much better. His serious mistake is trusting his goaltenders, but he’s made many more good moves than bad moves. He has done an adequate job of managing the assets he was given.
Donny, please.
by scrambles the death dealer on Feb 29, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
he’s playing majohngg while drawing a tattoo on his back while everyone else is playing chess.
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by thenumber14 on Feb 28, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Wait what year of the rebuild are we on again?
Okay i’m just being a dick now.
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by Bower Power on Feb 28, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
“I hope we get lucky” seems to be a better plan than what Brian Burke’s up to.
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On the opening night of the season when Brian Burke showed up, John Mitchell played 20 minutes of ice time. Our decision not to hold picks and tank led to the unanimous number one player in PPP’s top 25 under 25 – a trade that may only sit at “break even” because of Burke’s inability to pull the plug on shitty goaltending that season, yes, but even with abuse of hindsight, it’s tough to make a compelling argument that the landmark “don’t tank” move was a smarter play, given the complete lack of complementary pieces we had in the system at that time.
But what’s getting to me is the idea that all of this – which I’m pretty sure would’ve been fairly undisputed as of this morning (or 7 hours ago) – should be lit on fire, because the Leafs hits their, what, 9th loss instead of 8th?
Possible headlines for tomorrow: Overperforming bubble team becomes underperforming bubble team. 2nd, 9th overall draft pick on pace for 11th – fans insist they would have been patient enough to tank.
Right, this is an unacceptable result for a season, and, given the failure to add a big piece at the deadline (as usual), Burke’s offseason needs to be impressive, but I’m not sure that today should really be the straw that breaks the camel’s back.
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by Bower Power on Feb 28, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
but I’m not sure that today should really be the straw that breaks the camel’s back.
What’s the straw then? If not 9 losses in 11, 10 in 12? 13 in 14?
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For me it’s Burke’s inability to stop these losing months that make me think he needs to go.
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Wilson needs to go first. If Burke doesn’t realize this damn quick they both should be.
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by furcifer on Feb 28, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If Burke canned Wilson and said “this has to stop” I’d be ok with him staying.
He’s not going to do that. He believes in this team.
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by Chemmy on Feb 28, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Half the time I hope Burke is just pumping their tires when he says he believes in this group. If he really does then the Leafs have huge problems.
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by furcifer on Feb 28, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The bigger worry for me is the type of team that’s being built. How many run and gun teams prosper in the post-season?
This is the “system” we’re keeping Wilson to implement?
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by mf37 on Feb 28, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How many run and gun teams prosper in the post-season?
Yup. Bang on
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by leafer1984 on Feb 28, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Don’t worry, Burke’s building something great here. We’ll be adding somebody who can contribute in five years in June and just you wait.
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by Chemmy on Feb 28, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
As I said on twitter, I fully expect Burke to move the first round pick prior to the draft.
The higher the pick, I’d wager the more likelier is to get traded.
Leafs need G and minute eating defensive D. Most likely we land a top 6F in decline who adds size to the line-up.
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by mf37 on Feb 28, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Really? Let’s say we end up with 4th overall after the lottery. You think Burke trades that?
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by Peter de Chatham on Feb 28, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
Burke is coming up on year four of his tenure. He’s got to get results soon – and by soon, I mean playoffs at the very least in 2012-13, if not a good run in the post-season.
How does a kid who won’t make a meaningful contribution until 2015 help him do that?
You think an 18 year old Brayden Schenn, Kyle Beach, Jordan Schroeder or Brett Connolly is going to be a difference maker for Burke in 2012-13?
Not a chance.
But moving that pick for a player that can help Burke and the Leafs now? That’s where I’d place my bet.
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by mf37 on Feb 28, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You make a good point. At some point in a GM’s tenure he stops thinking about the team’s long term success, and starts thinking about his own immediate future.
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by GreatKingRat on Feb 28, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If the Leafs move that pick in the top 10 (Or top 5 the way they’re falling) I’m going to snap.
I’ve gotten sick feelings in my stomach immediately after 2 Leafs trades. 1. Rask for Raycroft 2. the Kessel package (though the Kessel package doesn’t bother me as much as it did when it was made)
If he moves that pick it’ll be the 3rd.
In retrospect I liked the Toskala deal at the time. Little did I know.
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At the time, I actually thought Toskala was worse than Rask for Raycroft. Leafs had two teenage goalies and Belfour. Something had to give. They bet on Pogge — oh well.
But Toskala — man, that was a huge package to give up. And if I remember correctly, they extended him before he even started his Leafs career.
Overtime loss: The new black.
by Varry Galk on Feb 28, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You are correct. Three year extension if memory serves me.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 28, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I remember being a big Toskala proponent probably just because I looked at his inflated numbers and didn’t think that the picks that we traded away would be converted to acquire a pick that allowed the Sharks to draft a player like Logan Couture
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by furcifer on Feb 28, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thank god we got Mark Bell out of that deal too though.
by lucc on Feb 28, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Mark Bell was worth it
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by furcifer on Feb 28, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Should’ve burned first round picks for bandaids like Paul Gaustad? Or rolled the dice on Josh Harding? Shoved AHL-928 Ben Bishop into the net instead of AHL-955 Gustavsson? Signed Turco?
The Leafs have been playing above their Fenwick% all season. The offensively gifted team has dropped to 2.15 GF/G over this month (2.92 over the season). It absolutely sucks that this happened against soft teams instead of the tough ones that we were probably going to lose anyways, but I don’t think I’ve seen a single move that makes me think “man, if the Leafs did that, we probably could’ve turned this around.”
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by Bower Power on Feb 28, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So the answer is do nothing and accept the losses?
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by mf37 on Feb 28, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes. Unless you’re swinging a deal like Phaneuf, Kaberle, or Beauchemin – and I can’t think of another GM who’s swung three of those kinds of deals at the deadline – teams are built in the offseason.
Shame on Burke for giving Gustavsson the chance to play past 10 games – “saved the season or not”, Burke rolled the dice, got burned, and should be held accountable – but I don’t think there’s much he could’ve done to steer out of the way of the iceberg we’re not only hitting, but that we’ve been saying “we’re probably going to hit” for the past couple months.
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by Bower Power on Feb 28, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry. I think someone needs to be held accountable for this mess.
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by mf37 on Feb 28, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I do too. I dont think anything is going to happen though. Thats the infuriating part.
Dat rebuild
by BlindSight on Feb 28, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
At this point, I’d be perfectly happy to see Wilson thrown on the ceremonial pyre (although I was looking forwards to his appearance on 24/7).
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by Bower Power on Feb 28, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We should all shake our fists in the air while cursing that damned regression to the mean thing
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by T is for Truculence on Feb 28, 2012 11:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
How about we curse that bastard who broke our star goaltender. yeah lets do that.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 28, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Gionta’s not the one drawing up the defensive coverage schemes though.
Passible team defense would have protected the goalies more. But then we lacked a vet backup to cover for Reimer….oh dear God I’ve gone cross-eyed.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 28, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes exactly, the Leafs are a bad Fenwick team. What’s Burke going to do to change that?
Their only hope is “get really lucky”. That HAPPENED and they still won’t sniff the postseason.
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by Chemmy on Feb 28, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Chemmy's right again
If I told you at the start of the season that Kessel and Phaneuf would be perfectly healthy and offensively productive, and that Lupul would not only be perfectly healthy but a top 10 offensive forward, would you shrug your shoulders and say “meh, even a good coach couldn’t put them above 11th place”?
Overtime loss: The new black.
by Varry Galk on Feb 28, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fire the coach. I’m offering no defense of Wilson. I’m so fucking sick of seeing Leafs’ defensemen screen their own goaltenders.
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by Bower Power on Feb 28, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If Burke or one of the million GMs had actually analyzed the stats instead of looking and saying “Golly, gee we’re only a couple points away” they could have had a better deadline.
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You have no idea how they prepared themselves for the deadline.
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Based on the value Burke himself placed on players and his old school attitude you can make assumptions but sure someone might have. I doubt it.
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Based on the analysis hinted at by Wilson, the deep pockets the Leafs have flexed in their front office, I’d assume that they’ve got an experimental statistics department.
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by Bower Power on Feb 28, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m sure the coaches do it for match-ups etc but for player acquisition? Would he have gone and after guys like Komisarek ?
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by furcifer on Feb 28, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Failure to consistently improve. Given the Leafs’ performance on ES-Defense and PK, I’m there when we’re talking about Wilson. I’m not there for Burke.
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by Bower Power on Feb 28, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You should be close.
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by Chemmy on Feb 28, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Like I said above, talk to me in September. If we’re looking at a similar team on paper, I’ll jump right up to the front of that line, with a banner, a trumpet, and a drum, all at the same time.
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by Bower Power on Feb 28, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Save yourself the time.
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I’m with you man
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Players Burke won’t acquire: Parise, Suter, goaltenders.
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but but but I want all those things
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 28, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But he has to get someone big, Suter more than anyone. If having Komisarek and Army on the roster prevent him from putting in a $7+ million bid, I’m going to go all Tonya Harding on them both (not actually).
by lucc on Feb 28, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lucc, listen, the cost was just too high on (Suter/Parise). You can’t give these guys $7M a year, it’ll screw your cap.
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by Chemmy on Feb 28, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
For Wilson, the camel’s back was broken long ago. The Wilson camel has been in a wheelchair with no possibility of reasonably walking again since 2010.
Overtime loss: The new black.
by Varry Galk on Feb 28, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you have a point. I’m no Wilson supporter I hope that’s clear. I just didn’t get why it has to be tomorrow.
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by Chuck Diesel on Feb 28, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
How could it get worse?
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by mf37 on Feb 28, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
at this moment it can’t get any worse. But at season’s end I’d rather be 15th than 9th.
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by Chuck Diesel on Feb 28, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
How can you keep a coach specifically to avoid winning? Honestly, don’t we owe it to Schenn at the very least to get a few regular season games in under a new system?
Overtime loss: The new black.
by Varry Galk on Feb 28, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’d still rather be 15th than 19 games of Schenn development. Just a personal opinion. Schenn is going to need 60 games of re-education before he gets good again.
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by Chuck Diesel on Feb 28, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe Burke’s plan with keeping Wilson is to guarantee the leafs tank
by jeffgm on Feb 28, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
good times
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by Peter de Chatham on Feb 28, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Because 1400 is a nice round number?
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by GreatKingRat on Feb 28, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ron Wilson’s number of games behind the bench.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Feb 28, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Or our collective blood alcohol content?
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 29, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I have 1400 alcohol in my bloodz!!
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by sportsfan2 on Feb 29, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Remember Burke gave up the opportunity to land any 1st round picks yesterday in an effort to make the playoffs. You have to make the most of it.
by scott tubbesing on Feb 28, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Last year it was trading players for picks/prospects because he didn’t want the leafs to get kicked out the first round.
This year, however the goal is to make the playoffs but why so the leafs get kicked out in the first round.
I liked the same plan of last year for this year – building a team for the future (ideally prospects and not picks). Not sure where the team is going.
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by HP on Feb 28, 2012 10:34 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
My girlfriend got it for me for Christmas… haven’t picked it up yet. I’m saving it for after the Leafs win the Cup, so that I can read it with a smile on my face and don’t get any closer to committing suicide than I currently am.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Feb 28, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
PPP brought it to me on Friday. I totally forgot i “won” it
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I refuse to buy that book. Won’t give that troll in human form a penny
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 28, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Last years playoff pool?
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by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 28, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
I wish the leaves
could sign Kenny Powers.
by wmd3 on Feb 28, 2012 10:35 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
The thing that sucks the most about this losing streak, aside from the losing, is that I can no longer in good conscience go to other SBNation blogs and troll my trolly heart out. I just can’t. I’m not a Habs fan.
by LeafInVancouver on Feb 28, 2012 10:39 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
It's not fair
I’m not much for expressing my thoughts on a blog, but all I know is that most of my childhood, my entire teenage life, and more has been taken up by the Leafs missing the playoffs. It’s to the point where my only memories of the Leafs being competitive are fuzzy moments from years ago that I can’t remember that well. I love this team more than anything in the world, I always have. Maybe I’m being overdramatic, but I just don’t understand how it’s possible we’ve been this bad for this long. It actually is causing me a considerable amount of sadness and stress. Maybe it’s different for some of the older members that have better memories of Leafs success, I don’t know. I want to be proud of my team. I want to enjoy cheering for and supporting my team. I want to be able to go out in public and not be ridiculed just because I love the team that I love. It’s just not fair.
I don’t know if any of that made sense. If I’m being too overdramatic, I’m sorry. It’s just that it’s come to the point where I almost can’t take the pain this team causes me anymore.
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by MLS on Feb 28, 2012 10:40 PM EST reply actions 18 recs
I agree. I’m tired of my team being a fucking joke.
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by Chemmy on Feb 28, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
Thirded. The last team the Leafs made the playoffs, I was 16-17 at the time. The Leafs have not made the postseason in my entire adult life.
Not to mention I left Toronto shortly after that and have had to live every day having people rub salt in the wound when the Leafs suck.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 28, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Same boat, man. I only vaguely remember the heyday of the Sundin era.
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by Blinky on Feb 28, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
yes
excuse my rage for a moment, but man
I’m just tired of giving a shit about this team. I’m tired of caring about every freaking game when it looks like the players don’t. And yeah, I was ten years old when they last made the playoffs and I was more interested in bossing my friends around on the playground then, I hardly even watched. I’m sick of this team but mostly I’m sick of the fact that I can’t stop caring about them.
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by leaflover4ever on Feb 28, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I know exactly what you mean
We essentially feel the same way. The fact that we were both just kids (literally) when the Leafs were last successful is just mind boggling. I don’t think I’ll ever stop caring about this team either, and I swear, the only thing that keeps me going is the thought that eventually they HAVE to win the Cup, right? I just keep telling myself that the drought can’t go on forever, and it’ll feel even sweeter if I stick through this.
I’m telling you though, it’s getting harder and harder, and putting more and more stress on me to keep doing so.
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by MLS on Feb 28, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You know, I think a chicago cubs fan said those same words at some point
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by T is for Truculence on Feb 28, 2012 10:58 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
Which is what scares the fucking shit out of me.
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by MLS on Feb 28, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh come on, we’ve still got 4 more years to reach the amount of the Hawks cup drought, and a decade to reach the Rangers cup drought. Look at the list of cup winning teams… look at how many of those teams HAVE NEVER WON A CUP.
Chill out.
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Again, I apologized above for potentially being overdramatic, but I think that not being able to clearly remember the last time the Leafs were in the playoffs is reason enough to be upset.
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I’m old enough to remember Iafrate and Olczyk getting traded. At this point I should be standing on a bridge.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 28, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
I’m old enough to remember Sittler, Lanny, Tiger, Salming, Palmateer, Turnbull. I should have jumped long ago. But year after year, here I am hoping this will be the year. Has to happen eventually.
by Rythmn Man on Feb 29, 2012 1:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I remember watching Keon, Sittler, and Henderson. This team is a pale comparison.
Tap it in, just tap it in, give it a little tappy, tap tap taparoo
by xwhlref on Feb 29, 2012 2:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No it’s a reason to be upset, but this entire thread is in desperate need of some perspective
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
While angry about Wilson I’m surprisingly chill. I’ve seen worse here in Leafs-land, even if it doesn’t feel like it right this moment.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 28, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m screen-shotting the fuck out of this thread.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 28, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was 20 when the Leafs last made it. It doesn’t get easier.
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by furcifer on Feb 29, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Damn. I feel bad for some of you guys who’ve even experience less success than we have. Just as I’m jealous of the people on here who saw a Leafs Cup win.
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by furcifer on Feb 29, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
As jealous as I am of those people, they’ve had far more years of suffering than we have
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by sportsfan2 on Feb 29, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that too is true. I look at it though like I look at my years of watching the Blue Jays. While I know that they’re not close to winning a World Series this year or for the next few, I can clearly remember 1993 and to a lesser extent 1992 and that cheers me up.
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To me the Jays situation is slightly different, as they’ve had to deal with problems other than incompetence. Namely, the Yankees and Red Sox. And not the freekin Devil Rays
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I miss the days when the Red Sox sucked.
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by furcifer on Feb 29, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
me too but then they became the Massholes
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the same reason you came back to this thread
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by sportsfan2 on Feb 29, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
well that’s because I’m procrastinating
but I guess it works
by leaflover4ever on Feb 29, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
We need more funz after nights like this.
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Is anyone else on college/university reading week?
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 29, 2012 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
mine was last week, I know the college around here is having it this week
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by CameronSorley on Feb 29, 2012 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
last week
I wish it was now, I coulduse a full day of sleeping
by leaflover4ever on Feb 29, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
I am. Thought I was the only one that had it this week.
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George Brown.
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Yeah the college break is this week.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 29, 2012 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
That’s weird because all of my other friends that go to college had it last week.
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my friend at georgian’s off this week
by leaflover4ever on Feb 29, 2012 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
Sheridan too.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 29, 2012 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
Heh I guess my friends’ schools are weird then. Oh well.
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dunno about you guys, I’m watching modern family and just finished some awesome grapes
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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 29, 2012 12:55 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hahahahahaha oh man that’s fantastic, rec
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by MLS on Feb 29, 2012 12:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i am on reading week...it doesnt help
I’ve felt the pains of playoff oustings by the hands of buffalo, philly, new jersey, carolina etc. but this is so much worse. In the few years after the lockout I stopped following the leafs, but for the last three years i’ve seen every game and watched/listened to every post game interview by wilson/the gang. I have so much emotional investment in this group. I can’t even describe how angry i am right now. How DARE they don the Maple Leaf sweater. I AM EMBARRASSED AND ASHAMED. i dont know if i can ever love the leafs again
by ChadKilger on Feb 29, 2012 12:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
just go for a massage man, itll make everything better
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by CameronSorley on Feb 29, 2012 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
Full release.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 29, 2012 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
even chemmy has given up… I’ve never been married, but i would imagine that being left by your wife would feel something like this
by ChadKilger on Feb 29, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This community has been through worse and survived, we are all gloomy, but after a few hours off bitching and swearing I am almost back to normal.Fire Wilson and I’m all smiles. As for the marriage thing I don’t think they compare. At all. ALL.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 29, 2012 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
it was intended to be a joke. And i will eventually start looking for reasons to beleaf again….but this is seriously hard to take.
by ChadKilger on Feb 29, 2012 1:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The only thing that has remained constant about the this organization since the last playoff appearance has been the team name and location. Everything else has changed – the farm team, the head coach, assistant coaches (friggin Acton), all the players, the owners, the GM, etc.
I don’t know why we suck so much, we just do
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by sportsfan2 on Feb 28, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Same here buddy.
All throughout highschool the Leafs sucked. I thought, its okay they’ll be good in University when I can go to bars and cheer.
Now Im finishing my last semester at UofT and the Leafs still fucking suck.
Im so tired of this. Im tired of being the laughing stalk of the league.
Dat rebuild
by BlindSight on Feb 28, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I got one year in university of Leafs playoff hockey, and i still missed the first period of Lalime’s meltdown because of an evening exam
Me and my roommates ponied up for Leafs TV and Centre Ice in second year only for the lockout to screw us.
I have never seen a Leafs game while being legally old enough to drink. I turned 19 like days after Philly eliminated them. I’ll be 27 this May
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perspective: my wife of 6 years and partner of 15 just left me.
some things are more important.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 28, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
We have perspective and Im really sorry about your marriage.
This is a Leafs blog however.
Dat rebuild
by BlindSight on Feb 28, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ouch
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by Chemmy on Feb 28, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m really sorry VRN, I didn’t mean to offend or anything. Those things are obviously more important… I guess I just don’t know the feeling. I’m only 18, after all.
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by MLS on Feb 28, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
no. no offense taken. in fact, my situation isn’t as bad as many.
it’s just, this thing has reminded me that while I care about the Leafs, they really are a distraction from life more than anything else. try to take some of that passion and energy and pour it into something else.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 28, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Sorry man, I’ve been close to that lately, but we’ve managed to work (most) things out….11 years and you’d think you know/understand everything.
I will hate you forever if you argue about players nationality or that the Leafs only care about money.
Been there.
We only have so much emotion to spend in life – anyone who has extra to spend on a professional sports team needs to count themselves lucky.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Feb 29, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
That's the most important thing the world, VR's N
Talk to everybody you care about, often.
And speaking of perspective, at least take comfort in this: today and tomorrow are the next two steps toward things getting better for you. It’s true by definition.
Overtime loss: The new black.
by Varry Galk on Feb 28, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
i’ve been blabbing my mouth of to anyone who will listen. it’s quite uncharacteristic of me.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 28, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
I certainly have perspective. The day after a Flames loss, an old acquaintance/friend of mine died in hospital. He was 24. It was certainly a huge shock and made me realize there’s bigger things than hockey.
But, it doesn’t change how I feel about this team right now.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 28, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, for sure. like i said, my situation isn’t nearly as bad as some.
and yeah, this game sucks. and the leafs suck. and it sucks. but really, Wilson is right: the sun will come up tomorrow.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 28, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The difference is, your personal life will certainly get better. The Leafs may never.
Overtime loss: The new black.
by Varry Galk on Feb 28, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks. Off to join Moe in the oven now.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 28, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
^ No funeral.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 28, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
quiet you, he’s just taking a nap someplace warm.
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by thenumber14 on Feb 28, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
it just feels warm. that’s the carbon-monoxide poisoning setting in.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 28, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ronnie said the sun will “probably” rise tomorrow. You just can’t pin that man down.
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by GreatKingRat on Feb 29, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ah, shit.
O! To join the rush / As the season builds
by Back In Black on Feb 28, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry to hear about that man. I’ve never met you but you seem like a great dude, you’ll be fine :)
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by happiergilmore on Feb 28, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
ha. thanks! truthfully, i save most of my asshole quotient for the internets. i’m much less of a jerk in real life.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 28, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck dude, I’m very sorry to hear that.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 28, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, last time the Leafs were in the playoffs, I was a whole 12 years old, I’m now 20. Not one Leaf playoff game in my teenage years. I’m way more of a fan now then I was then, and it sucks at times. It’s really tough at times, I don’t even know what to say, I laugh, but its only to keep myself sane.
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by CameronSorley on Feb 28, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
In hindsight, it’s other things too: it’s my dad, who is a big Leafs fan, laughing at me for even caring about this team because they’re so bad. He’s been doing it since 2006, probably out of bitterness of not seeing a Cup win since age 6. 1/4 of the way through this year, I bought him Leafs tickets for Christmas, for March 27th against Carolina, thinking the Leafs would be in a furious playoff push. I thought I’d finally be able to stick it to his pessimistic thoughts about this team, because I really did believe that we were good enough. I guess that won’t happen.
Here’s something else: None of my friends are really hockey fans, but know enough to preach “Leafs suck”, and understand why it’s funny. They all know that I’m a die hard Leafs fan, and they find every opportunity to work in the Leafs suck argument. I thought this finally might be the year that I could stick it to them. I guess I was wrong.
They don’t sound like things that are a big deal, and really, they’re not. But they’re only a couple of the many little things that add up to a lot, all centred around this team sucking for the majority of my life. Other people have pointed out similar things too, and I don’t blame you.
Someone already said it, but I’ll repeat it: For once I just want to be able to love my team without being the laughing stock of the NHL, and everyone pretty much.
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Your relationship with your friends sounds exactly like mine
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Mine, too, though you can usually replace “not really a hockey fan,” with, “Canucks fan” and get the same thing.
by LeafInVancouver on Feb 28, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
counterpoint
the Leafs were competitive – very competitive – for like 6 straight years. And people still took shots and poked fun.
it’s never going to end. make peace with that now.
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Never forget!
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by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 28, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
chuck diesel
Classic response on the previous post.
That was killer. Only line missing was a reference to beating the shit out of his defense
by jebrand99 on Feb 28, 2012 10:41 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Tank Nation
OK so the deal was we would forego the traditional rebuild and target high skill level young players a year or two removed from their draft class, where they would have gone in the top 15 of the first round… I bought in…and after three years, this Leaf team isn’t making any significant progress…
I want to see the Leafs get a Landeskog, or similar via the draft. Never been a tanker, but right now, I am just so done with watching this team do nothing, season after season. The strategy isn’t paying off, and Id like to see a top 3 draft prospect in Blue and White. A real difference maker, even if it takes a season to put it together…
If a top three pick isn’t the answer, someone tell me what is please…
hahahaha Brian Burke sign a good UFA hahaha
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So I guess this would be a bad time to suggest offer-sheeting Price?
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hahahahah Brian Burke offer sheet
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I guess we can always fall back on fleecing Calgary.
"I myself am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."
hahahahahah Fleecing Calgary
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by thenumber14 on Feb 28, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Schenn
Leafer and CM09, I have the first edition and it explains clearly why the Leafs have been moribound that last 40+ yrs. It is all about appearances. Everything from giving up Doug Jarvis, Steve Sullivan, for nothing because of stupidity or egos of GMs it shows that as long as the Leafs are the only way to see an NHL game in the GTA nothing will really change.
So stop buying tickets and they’ll improve? Really?
by LeafInVancouver on Feb 28, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Oh for fuck’s sake…
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by clrkaitken on Feb 28, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Bring back Burgundy Clap-clap-clapclapclap
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by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 28, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that’s it exactly. He’s so smrt. It’s all about the fans. Because when an NHL player is streaking down the wing at full speed, and in those microseconds of time that he has to think he ponders “hmm the fans will buy tickets anyway” as he releases a shot 10 feet wide and skates back to the bench, fully relaxed.
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by Chuck Diesel on Feb 28, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
I don't blame the players
It has always been about leadership (terrible GMs and owners). Players are just employees. Leafs don’t spend enough on scouting or player development (according to Al Strachan).
(according to Al Strachan).
see thats the issue, you’re listening to Strachan
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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(according to Al Strachan)
There it is.
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thank God i didn’t read this last night, because i probably would have been banned.
I’ll let Ari say it for me
I will hate you forever if you argue about players nationality or that the Leafs only care about money.
I’m just gonna say that, I will never stop supporting this team. I grew up watching them, and I will continue to watch them.
Through thick and thin.
I love the Leafs.
Go Leafs Go
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by leafer1984 on Feb 28, 2012 10:43 PM EST reply actions 13 recs
me too. I actually want to stop caring to be honest but I just can’t. I don’t even know how to stop.
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Feb 28, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
You know I actually think that it says something about our character as people that we can be this loyal.
Leafs til I die
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
Oh i’ll support them till I die but man, do they make me sad right now.
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by LeafFan1989 on Feb 28, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
question, is the bad the thick or the thin?
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by LeafFan1989 on Feb 28, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Me too, as hard as it is to do so, I’ll always be a Leafs fan. Until the end.
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In other news “duh” to quote you. Doesnt mean we didnt suck balls tonight or really, lets face it, the past 10 games
by Goosemonster on Feb 28, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you for completely missing the point of my post. 100%.
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by leafer1984 on Feb 28, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I think it was Blinky who said “The only way out is a pine box” Amen brother. Amen.
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In all honesty, I would care less about losing if Brian Burke wasn’t constantly telling us how good he thinks this team is and how confident he is in the players and the coach. It’s all a bunch of malarkey and his act is growing mighty thin. If he believes that nonsense he spews that is a shame. If he doesn’t and he is just trying to fool us, that is even more shameful. It’s time Burke starts admitting his rebuild hasn’t gone as planned and start making changes because this team is a long way from being competitive.
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by HockeyAnalysis on Feb 28, 2012 10:44 PM EST reply actions
Can I chip in my two cents as a Cubs/Leafs fan?
It gets better. It really does. You get used to it, then get to start making jokes about you’re own team being awful, and eventually just go to the games expecting to drink and have some fun w/ friends, regardless of the outcome on the ice/field.
(note: the “It gets better” thing was in no way intended to make fun of the anti-bullying campaign, I just couldn’t think of a better way to put it)
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 10:45 PM EST reply actions
omg a Cubs/Leafs fan. Keep this guy away from guns.
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Feb 28, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
At least he’s not a Cubs/Leafs/Browns fan.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 28, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Cubs/Leafs/West Ham/University of Virginia
I have the Steelers and Bulls though…
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Bills/Leafs fan. Shoot me.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 28, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
The Toronto Rock are the only reason why I haven’t gone insane yet. And the New Orleans Saints, too (although that was bad for a long time before 2009)
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Just replace the Cubs centric references with Leafs equivalents
… thanks… now I need tissues
/sobs
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
okay, i'm going to say it right now
I don’t like the way this team plays hockey. at all.
i’m not saying add hitting, I’m not saying I hate goals being scored and that the game to slow down.
but good god. I’ve seen shinny teams make less mistakes then the Leafs do.
it’s like watching a game of table hockey and the person you’re watching play has no idea which peg does what.
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it’s 2 things for me
1. Can’t clear the zone. Why? I mean just get some mustard on the fucking shot I don’t get it.
2. the terrible giveaways/ fanning on shots/passes like 3 year olds. Just totally awkward passing
I just can’t fathom A. that these players are that bad or B. that somehow Wilson’s coaching is making them fan on passes. So then what the fuck is it?
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Feb 28, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
I cant believe B. Its nuts. There have been at least 7-10 goals in this collapse that have come directly off whiffs in the defensive zone. WHERE DID YOU LEARN THAT.
Dat rebuild
well if you switch the excuses around it kind of makes sense. where 1 is the fault of wilson’s coaching and 2 is because our players are not good at hockey.
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by thenumber14 on Feb 28, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah the #1 biggest thing that pisses me off about this team is they don’t respond when they have anything bad happen to them. Fuck me Detroit is more physical than this team on most nights. Bang some fucking bodies around for fucks sake
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
Lets all relax and play a nice game of Where's Waldo.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 28, 2012 10:55 PM EST reply actions 26 recs
That actually took me a minute. Well played, sir.
by LeafInVancouver on Feb 28, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
I found Rob Ford. About a quarter from the bottom, right in the middle, in a green suit, with blue tie.
by scott tubbesing on Feb 28, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Perspective
Burke talks a lot of shit, but this team is not that far away from being good.
He;s added a lot of talent. Has he made some bad decisions? Sure, but there’s a lot more talent in the NHL and throughout the system. Fix goaltending, fix team defence (coaching – the personnel we have should be able to be at least adequate), hire a new coach.
Wilson’s run out of time. Burke deserves more. This was always a bubble team, and they haven’t gotten the goaltending they needed. But it’s not time to panic. Four years ago was time to panic. It was a hell of a lot worse then.
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If (or for some of you when) the Leafs miss the playoffs, watch the Marlies. You’ll feel better.
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The goaltending we needed? Like a goalie who bails out his team 10 times a game?
by Goosemonster on Feb 28, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
We got career years from our whole top six and were spotted tons of points early and will finish where we always do.
The Leafs won’t score this much next year. They’ll let in the same number of goals. I’m not sure I see the improvement.
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Not really our whole top six.
It is a shame the years Kessel and Lupul are having though, all for nothing it seems. Even Phaneuf is having a better offensive season then the past couple years.
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by Joe Ferguson on Feb 28, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
Lupul is at peak value. I really wish Burke had moved him at the deadline. He’ll never put up another season like this.
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Burke only makes good decisions.
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This is not even close to something anyone has said.
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by Bower Power on Feb 28, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Keep Lupul for the playoff run.
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“I don’t wanna squeak in the playoffs in 8th only to get our asses kicked”
He’s living up to one thing at least.
by scott tubbesing on Feb 28, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
Except today on the Fan today he said “Our goal is to make the playoffs”.
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My goal is to wake up with a foot long dick
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Well that would just be impractical.
Having a goal is great, but you have to have some kind of coherent fucking plan to accomplish it.
And so you get my analogy.
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I sleep standing up, naked, with a 10lb weight hanging from my gentleman’s sausage.
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by SkinnyFish on Feb 29, 2012 1:03 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
The phrase gentleman’s sausage always makes me giggle.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 29, 2012 1:11 AM EST up reply actions
There aren't any pills
You can buy online to make a team make the playoffs
I sacrifice my signature to the Based God.
by Archimedies on Feb 29, 2012 1:07 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m pretty sure I could buy powerful hallucinogens off the internet. Maybe from Russia.
by LeafInVancouver on Feb 29, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
Leafs have a horrid streak of hockey every season it seems.
09/10 – Very start
10/11 – November
11/12 – RIGHT NOW
I don’t even care if Burke thinks its not Wilson’s fault, perhaps it isn’t, that doesn’t mean a new it isn’t god damn necessary at this point. Time for him to swallow his pride a bit, this team has stopped playing for Wilson.
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If Burke won't fire Wilson,
Bell and Rogers will. When their takeover of MLSE is completed, they aren’t going to take too kindly to Burke suggesting that Wilson stick around and cost the two companies oodles of money.
by GenericLeafsFan on Feb 28, 2012 11:02 PM EST reply actions
If MLSE takes over Burke’s authority on choice of coach Burke will step down himself.
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Introducing the new GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs, Nadir Mohammed!
by lucc on Feb 28, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’d welcome that. Nadir is one smart man and is likely more results focused than Burke.
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He’s also really tall. True story.
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I see him every six weeks. He sits on my board. He’s an exceedingly smart guy.
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Everytime I’ve heard him speak I’ve been impressed.
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Interviewed him once. He was pretty good.
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by T is for Truculence on Feb 28, 2012 11:31 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I vote Chaim Wassermiller.
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by torleafsfan29 on Feb 29, 2012 3:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
How exactly are they costing the team money? Do they care that much about playoff revenue? Will they care any more the the Teachers Fund did?
by GettinGiggy on Feb 28, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
Are we falling back on the “Leafs don’t care about wining as long as the sheep fans keep buying tickets” thing again?
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by T is for Truculence on Feb 28, 2012 11:33 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Give him the Burgandy.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 28, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
I remember when there was such a gap between us and the cellar dwellers of the East, now Tampa is about to pass us for fuck sakes…
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I don’t mean this as an insult but y’all are depressing me
good night ;P
by leaflover4ever on Feb 28, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Misery loves company, but I certainly don’t blame you. Goodnight.
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i’ve been planning it for years. i’ve got my smug face cued up.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 28, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It will be glorious.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 28, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Show them you care about the Leafs, good idea.
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Never go full Montreal.
"I myself am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."
by Blinky on Feb 28, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You made me smile after tonight, you win a rec.
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I have previous plans of being hungover tomorrow.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 28, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
#OccupyACC?
TWEET AT ME BRO
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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 28, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
So who wants to pay top dollar for the Winter Classic?
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Well, I sure as hell don’t wanna go to Michigan if that’s what I’m getting.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 28, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
I hope the tickets don’t go on sale until well after July 1st.
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No chance I’m flying to Michigan to watch the Leafs get their dicks kicked in.
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If they’re as bad as they are right now next year, I’ll fly over just to kick their dicks in myself.
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I'm telling you I was the King of Spain (now I eat humble pie)
Now the Leafs call me up to drive the Zamboni
Twitter me this.
Welcome home Chaim Weisswasser!
by happiergilmore on Feb 28, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
No chance I’m going to be sober enough to recognize there’s a hockey game going on.
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by Bower Power on Feb 28, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
True story: The Leafs have been good against the Wings in recent memory… it might be the one highlight of the season (at the very least)
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
we can take solace in the likelihood that the Red Wings won’t be that good with Lidstrom gone next year.
Ah who am I kidding. Lidstrom will be back, have a 60 pt year, etc. The Leafs will get their butts kicked.
But fuck it, I’m stil a Leafs fan first, and a Red Wings fan second. And it’s still a spectacle that I’d rather not miss.
Next season of 24/7: "I am named Mikhail. I watch video to fold together strategy. I want outdoors to fight bravely."
by Peter de Chatham on Feb 28, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t take any solace in other teams sucking. There’s always a winner in the end and it’s never us.
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Feb 28, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Hope we keep losing…none of this 9th place bs
by TheDeek on Feb 28, 2012 11:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I’m not sure how this blog survived after 09-10. 2nd last with no first rounder is much worse than the situation we’re in now
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by sportsfan2 on Feb 28, 2012 11:23 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I didn’t watch Leafs games that year because it hurt too much and there was no bright side. This is beginning to feel a little bit like that
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There is a bright side this year. We still have our pick so tank nation actually could help in 3-4 years.
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Amazing to me that Burke has basically given Ron Wilson a “pass” for his first two years in Toronto because Burke was overhauling the roster. There is zero accountability for anyone in the organization who’s underwhelming. Wilson has had two different teams to work with now in Toronto. There are no more excuses.
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by birky on Feb 28, 2012 11:24 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Also, it’s time to serious consider how well the Leafs evaluate talent. Not giving up Luke Schenn to get John Tavares? Continued failing to obtain any sort of stability in net?
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Not giving up Luke Schenn to get John Tavares?
whaaa?
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Now the Leafs call me up to drive the Zamboni
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by happiergilmore on Feb 28, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Leafs had a chance to trade Luke Schenn and the pick that became Nazem Kadri to NYI for the 1st overall pick. Brian Burke declined.
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I haven’t heard anything about that :S. Where is that from?
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Now the Leafs call me up to drive the Zamboni
Twitter me this.
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by happiergilmore on Feb 28, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
I knew he had a chance to move up by packaging Schenn and that 7th together, but I didn’t know it would have fetched Tavares.
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by Peter de Chatham on Feb 28, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Brian Burke said it back in 2009 after the draft.
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I heard that any trade for that pick started with Schenn and Burke wasn’t interested.
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Schenn +? for Tavares.
Meh. Not sure I would have done that in 2009.
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No one would’ve in ’09.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 28, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
PPP comment thread on the Tavares draft. No support for moving Schenn.
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rotflmao!
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edit – rotflmao @ Jared’s comment! too funny…
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Thanks for joining!
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by Chemmy on Apr 14, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up actions
look how nice Chemmy was to the new commenter who made a reply fail
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The optimism, the good ol’ days. Also to be fair that thread is from April 14, 2009 which was a couple months before the draft, but yeah this was during the OLAS era.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 28, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
Would you have done Kaberle and 6th (became Kadri) for Kessel in 2009? That was also on the table
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you were one of the few
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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trying to find the thread
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Is it a coincidence that the most I’ve seen you post here is at the absolute lowest point of the Leafs season. Do you feed off human misery or something man???
Remember that season when we didn't have a disastrous soul-crushing 10-game stretch? Yeah me neither. tweet tweet @dannyd1976.
by daoust on Feb 28, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No to the coincidence.
Yes to feeding off human misery.
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Actually, I wrote two blog posts today and am working on a third. Just in the mood to talk hockey. Started a new job, been really busy with my kids and haven’t had any free time in the last six weeks or so.
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Was just busting your balls. The 3 question marks is a dead giveaway I’m not serious. Congrats on the new job dude.
Remember that season when we didn't have a disastrous soul-crushing 10-game stretch? Yeah me neither. tweet tweet @dannyd1976.
ah yes the 3 question marks. So retro though.
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Feb 28, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
hipster grammar
Remember that season when we didn't have a disastrous soul-crushing 10-game stretch? Yeah me neither. tweet tweet @dannyd1976.
ɯɐǝɹʇsuıɐɯ ooʇ sı ʎllɐɯɹou ƃuıʇıɹM
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 28, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks. Feels a little bit like a second place prize. Would have preferred to stay freelance, but after six years it was time for a bit of job security.
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Never been a fan of the deal but I’ve made my peace with it and I’m not going to regurgitate my reasons why.
Phil Kessel is a good player.
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Feb 29, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
seconded but even I didn’t see 2nd overall.
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Here is the list detail of the draft.
Oh god, why?
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 28, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
This kid’s gonna be the future captain! If I trade him then I’ll look like an idiot
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by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 28, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
Was potentially the case until Wilson coached Schenn’s career into oblivion.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 28, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
You aren’t screening the goalie enough, you really got to get your ass in there. GOOD!
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 28, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The worst part about this
Is I really feel like this is just another failed rebuild
Komisarek Blows
2nd youngest team in the league. Yay!
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Uh, no. We’ve finally got a good prospect pool going.
Problem is the coach and GM have made some strange personnel decisions about who stays on the Leafs and who stays in the A while Lombardi gets the Mitchell treatment.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 28, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
We’ve got a bunch of potential second liners.
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I know, prospects never turn out to be good players
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
How often do low first rounders and mid round picks really turn into good players. He’s basically assembled a group of prospects out of which maybe if we’re really lucky 1 or 2 can become decent second liners.
So what is it like in the future… do they have jetpacks yet? I’ll be honest I’m kind of hoping the future is exactly like Mass Effect…
but seriously tell me what the future is like
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
aaannnd woosh.
My point was I have no fucking clue because I can’t see into the future
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
TRADE EVERYBODY THIS OFF SEASON! KESSEL FOR LEBDA! PHANEUF FOR PENNER! GARDNER FOR GOMEZ!
Hey may as well start tank Nation 2013 off with a bang.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 28, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t forget Grabbo for Malone!
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I would be okay with this only because then I’d get to say, “Give ’em hell, Malone.”
by LeafInVancouver on Feb 29, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
package some of those prospects to get a first liner. It can be done. Depth is never a bad thing.
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Remember that time when our notable forward prospect was Jiri Tlusty? Just Jiri Tlusty?
Oh, and Stempniak. Fucking Stempniak trade.
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by Bower Power on Feb 29, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
That’s NSFW Tlusty to you sir
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The team’s still further ahead than having Strahlman, Tlusty and Mitchell heading up the depth charts.
Really cold fucking comfort though. Especially with Wilson likely hanging around.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 28, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Colborne and Kadri do have the potential to be regular 2nd liners.
Things do look bleak right now, and if Burke trades away our pick at the draft, I’ll burn all my Leafs shit in a giant pile. But if he doesn’t, then it’s something to build on. The Oilers are having a worse season than us, but with some non-stupid moves by management, the fans know they’ve got a bright future ahead of them.
Next season of 24/7: "I am named Mikhail. I watch video to fold together strategy. I want outdoors to fight bravely."
by Peter de Chatham on Feb 28, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
yeah second liners suck trade them all
by Goosemonster on Feb 28, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
You're right, we should just trade everyone in the system and start over again
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
Wilson's post game audio
“You know, there’s no pressure anymore, there’s positive pressure to get into the playoffs and go from there”
by lucc on Feb 28, 2012 11:27 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Im conflicted, I want Wilson fired tomorrow but I dont want the Leafs to finish in 9th or 10th.
Dat rebuild
I had the same thought. I’m fine with keeping Wilson until the end of the season. I’ve given up on playoff hopes. 16.5%
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Fuck this shitty team. I’m hopping in my Delorean, gunning it for 1993 and never looking back.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 28, 2012 11:36 PM EST reply actions
Greg Scott
You know I think Doc was trying to tell us something…
/kidding
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
Make sure you run over Kerry Fraser’s foot before he has to ref in the Conference Final.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 28, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
Psst: they didn’t win.
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Feb 28, 2012 11:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
you might as well go back to 62 then and watch the whole 3- peat in all it’s glory.
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Feb 28, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
It’s okay. I’ll make sure Kerry Fraser can’t ref Game 6 and change the course of history forever.
Then, I’ll come back to today and enjoy the Leafs Cup dynasty.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 28, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
The Leafs wouldnt only win in 93 but also 94 because the momentum would carry over. Not only that but Larry Murphy would not have been run out of town and we would have taken the cups detroit won in 97 and 98 because, you know, hes the reason detroit won. YOU MUST RUN OVER FRASER
by schennsational on Feb 29, 2012 7:48 AM EST up reply actions
Burke’s built an International Waffle House of Ass.
Next season of 24/7: "I am named Mikhail. I watch video to fold together strategy. I want outdoors to fight bravely."
by Peter de Chatham on Feb 28, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Waffle if awful.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 28, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
You know what's even more depressing
Looking at Steve’s Win% predictions and seeing the FLA as one he thought we’d win. On the bright side if the rest of his predictions are accurate Leafs have a chance at 15th. Here we come Montreal!
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Not only have the Leafs probably wasted Joffrey Lupul’s career season, they’ve probably wasted Phil Kessel’s as well. Fantastic,
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Sure, if the Leafs can find another 80+ point player to play with Kessel next year when Lupul drops back to normal 25-25 levels.
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No he doesn’t, his current contract expires in 2014
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by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 28, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Touche.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 28, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
well if this current roster is as full of holes as it seems then they’ve probably wasted a good half of kessel’s productive Leaf tenure as well. Perhaps all of Grabbo’s as well.
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Feb 28, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
As a team, we need to invest in….WAFFLES. TASTY WAFFLES, WITH LOTS OF SYRUP!
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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 28, 2012 11:41 PM EST reply actions
You should just become Sabres fans
Like you all should have done in 1970. We also like overpaying players of questionable talent. But our team has been more well run in its history than the Leafs have been in recent memory.
I’m sorry, but since when has Buffalo ever been relevant to anyone?
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by MLS on Feb 28, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
or… and hear me out on this…. fuck no.
I like to think that at the very least my steadfastness to a team through thick and thin instead of abandoning it every time things suck is a reflection of me as a person
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
rec’d
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Feb 28, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Rec’d for truth. Fuck other teams. Leafs fan till I die.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 28, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
Im pretty sure Leafs and Sabres have won the same amount of cups since 1970
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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I’m mostly kidding. Coming to this place of late is even depressing me and I’ve always thought the Leafs were even more irrelevant. Which is surprising considering Toronto is the center of the hockey universe. Like I used to forget the Leafs existed in the 80s when I’d name all the teams.
“Who are those fans that take over 90% of our building again? The Maple somethings…”
Overtime loss: The new black.
What’s that one team that bankrolls my bankrupt team?
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
Who invited Buffalo to the pity party?
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 28, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Live theatre?
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by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 28, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
Toronto’s live theatre scene is actually pretty good.
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I guess it is, though I’ve also associated New York city with Broadway to be the big live theatre hub.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 29, 2012 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
it is. Chicago is #2. Toronto is #3. In NA.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 29, 2012 8:58 AM EST up reply actions
Third largest centre for english-language theatre worldwide, fyi.
I’ve posted like maybe once here, drunk, about a year ago. But I couldn’t restrain myself. Weird.
This is the most depressed I’ve been about this team, which is bizarre to me, since I’ve been a fan since I was able to read “TORONTO” on the commercial break scoreboard on tv. You’d think I’d be used to this by now. But something feels different this year. A perfect storm of unmet expectations? It sucks wearing the blue and white and feeling innately embarrassed about it, but it is what it is.
by LegioPraetoria on Feb 29, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
Book of Mormon is coming!
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Nice. More people will get to see it I hear the wait list for the Broadway show is longer than our Festivus Grievances List about the Leafs.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 29, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
Although to be fair, the Cody Hodgson pickup was pretty solid.
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Thanks for feeding the troll. They don’t need ammunition.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 28, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
Cheer for Buffalo?!
This is like telling a one-legged man he should chop an arm off.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 28, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
I tried to google Buffalo Sabres cup wins, I got nothing.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 28, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
I googled Buffalo, it came up grey.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 28, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
so by recent memory you mean this year. Ahhh..
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Enjoy Leino’s cap hit. I’d rather have Lebda back than that mess.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 28, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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It’s amazing that the Sabres only missed the playoffs three times between 1973 and 2001 and have nothing to show for it. At least we have Harold Ballard as an excuse :)
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Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing - Vince Lombardi
scratch that 4 times
My rambling tweets
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing - Vince Lombardi
Bad news: Sabres made two finals since the last Leafs Cup win.
Good news: no Cup to show for it.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 29, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
That’s not what I meant. They made the playoffs every single year from 1980 to 2004 which is one of the longest records in professional sports. And they have no cups to show for it.
You do realize that we’re all near-suicidal because we’re only three points ahead of you, right?
Overtime loss: The new black.
No
You’re all near suicidal because you were recently 10 points ahead and now are only 3.
That’s exactly what he was saying.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 28, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
Who’s on your shit list? Smack talk aside, after all those moves this year must be a kick to the nuts.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 29, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
I cant be all mean to buffalo, they also had someone try to murder their goalie.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 29, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
It was. I hate the core of the team, particularly Roy and Stafford. Vanek and Pominville get a pass by their awesomeness generally. Gaustad was way overpaid. I think Miller is acting like the de facto captain with how outspoken he is because nobody else will do it. They don’t have “it” and its frustrating because they are playing so well now in comparison to earlier. Of course, health has a lot to do with it, but so does personality and drive. They’ve only made the playoffs in the last decade when Mike Grier has been on the team. That’s not good.
Not as close as Brett Hull was to Hasek’s crease.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 28, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
Toronto: 65 Points
Buffalo: 62 Points
I’m no expert but I think as of this moment the Leafs are technically closer, despite having lost all of these games
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
Recent memory? Like when all the free agents had to leave Buffalo because they didn’t have an owner willing to pay them?
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Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing - Vince Lombardi
Honestly, I’m glad you showed up. There’s nothing like a fan from a rival team to remind us why we’re all Leafs fans.
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Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing - Vince Lombardi
Please help me, how do I deal with this feeling? If you’re a Buffalonian you must have a lifetime of experience being mopey.
by lucc on Feb 28, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
A note to my fellow Leaf fans
Yes, it has felt this bad before. Small consolation, but there it is.
In the 70’s, we had heard about all these great Cup wins, and we’d get these great young players, and then… boom…. they’d get blown up or torn away. Which would be bad. But then, each year the Cup would be won by our bitterest rivals. Montreal, Montreal, Boston, Montreal, Boston, Montreal, Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Montreal, Montreal, Montreal, Montreal. I’m not sure it’s possible to overstate what it was like to lose to the Habs that often, to see the Bruins have Orr, and then to have the Flyers not only pound you on the scoreboard, but then beat your guys senseless in addition.
The point of this is to say that I bled for those teams, for years. As a kid, I cried my friggin’ eyes out, each year they’d get eliminated. This was an era with a lot fewer options, and so, when the Leafs lost, you could basically spend the next 6 months playing marbles and being taunted.
It absolutely consumed me. And it made me deeply unhappy, not only each lost season, but each GAME lost. Hell, each goal lost, each player failed, each stupid penalty.
And even today, 45 years in, it rips my heart out to see. Though nowadays it hurts more to watch the young players, and now how badly this affects their mental make-up, to play through a disaster zone like this. Reimer, Gardiner, Schenn, Frattin – hell, they should all be sent down to the Marlies til this has been righted.
But for you fans, all I can say is…. you really do have to separate a bit of your heart from this stuff. It’s not that “it’s just a game.” (I always hated the assholes who told me that.) It’s more that…. life has a whole lot of games. Sure, other sports and electronic games. But ideas and travels and friends and movies and music and creating things at work and changing the world politically and…. well, you get it. They’re all games. These are things which can be just as exciting, or fun.
And – and this is critical – that these things may be somewhat more under your direct control. Or may allow you to pitch in and contribute your talents more directly.
That way you can take what you learn from watching and cheering for the Leafs, and actually…. produce a victory out of it. Because really in-depth fandom teaches you a lot about patience, about courage, about learning curves, about teamwork and individuality, about the difference between what you do bets and what other people do best and what it’s important to do best right now.
And maybe Brian Burke and the Leafs learn as much as you have, but also…. maybe not. This team could actually rehire a Brophy, or a Maurice. Or otherwise find yet more ways to fail.
For me, I took what I learned, and what I cared about – which was the Toronto Maple Leafs, first and foremost – and used it to do well. In my own sporting life, then coaching life, at college, in travels, with ideas, with work projects, with politics.
Which doesn’t entirely make it ok. But it means, I have a life I can walk away to now, and still have fun. And these losses don’t chew me up more than a couple of hours each. ;-)
So to those of you who find yourself pretty overwhelmed with this stuff…. and some of you do, I know, I can hear it…. got turn what you know, and what you’ve learned into other ends. Let the Leafs be the Leafs.
Go do in life what the Leafs should have done on the ice. Namely – win. And have a blast doing it.
Big love to all you Leaf fans, and by the way, never give up. It’ll come. You may be old, but it’ll come back to Toronto. And when it does, I’ve only got one word of advice.
Gloat. Rub it in. All those other fans deserve it. (Especially the fucking Habs fans.)
And then…. laugh like hell. Cause no other hockey fans will have tasted anything quite that sweet, ever.
EVAR.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 28, 2012 11:47 PM EST reply actions 27 recs
word
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Feb 28, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you.
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I was wondering where norm was.
He was writing a novel.
Thanks Norm, Rec’d’d
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 28, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
100% Wrong
sports are important
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by Archimedies on Feb 28, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
Hypothetical question: If you had to choose between watching sports or listening to music for the rest of your life, which would you choose.
2nd Hypothetical question: If you could be a sandwich, what kind of sandwich would you be?
Remember that season when we didn't have a disastrous soul-crushing 10-game stretch? Yeah me neither. tweet tweet @dannyd1976.
question one is too hard
question two: I’d be a turkey club with no toothpick because I’m falling apart : (
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1st. Watching Sports. Nothing fills me with more joy.
2nd Pickles and onions. I’d last longer because nobody would eat me.
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Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing - Vince Lombardi
I'd probably take the music
1 – After quitting the Ass. Prod. job at Jokesnet I’ve put a lot of the time that used to go into watching / caring about sports into other stuff and only really miss it when I’m on downtime on a day off with nothing to watch.
Music I use for commuting and relaxing and mood setting and in editing and all types of different situations.
2 – Pulled pork sandwich
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by Archimedies on Feb 29, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
i'll answer myself
Music. Without question.
Egg Salad. There are few things better in life than a well executed egg salad sandwich.
Remember that season when we didn't have a disastrous soul-crushing 10-game stretch? Yeah me neither. tweet tweet @dannyd1976.
Ooooh egg salad.
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by Archimedies on Feb 29, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
Pick one or the other:
Never being able to toast your bread again or
Never being able to choose between mono or stereo
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I don’t mind untoasted bread. Stereo is key.
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Feb 29, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Never being able to toast bread.
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by Archimedies on Feb 29, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
question 1 music wins it’s not even close
2. I’d be a a veal on a bun italian stile. I’m round and saucy.
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Feb 29, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
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1. I would take sports, the sound of Sundin ringing one off the post and then the horn going off is music to my ears.
2.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 29, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
1. Music. I’d listen to that Glass Tiger Leafs song, in an endless loop.
2. I’d be the most delicious sandwich Ron Wilson could ever dream of. And then I’d go to Ron and say, “Hey Ron. I’m that delicious sandwich you were dreaming of. If you want me, I’m yours. With just one condition.”
And he’d say, “What condition is that, oh sandwichy love of my life? Name it, and it is yours.”
And I’d say, “Quit the Leafs, you’re fucking wrecking all their young talent you droid.”
And he’d say, “For you * smack smack * anything.”
And he’d quit.
And I’d say, “Bite me, Ron.” and run far far away, laughing maniacally at my brilliant plan.
Result? Leafs Win Cup.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 29, 2012 12:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"Bite me, Ron"
Is some quality sandwich humour
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by Archimedies on Feb 29, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
Sports is entertainment. Music is life.
Hero.
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by GreatKingRat on Feb 29, 2012 12:53 AM EST up reply actions
1) Music. All the happy moments I can think of a song playing at the time.
2) The mighty pastami sandwich. Piled high with a shmear of mustard and a slice of muenster cheese.
The Maple Leafs- making me certifiably insane since 1985.
by torleafsfan29 on Feb 29, 2012 6:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What’s the thing I’ve seen from PPP before… more like a group therapy session?
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
It’s in PPP’s signature.
99% of player salaries are payed out to only 1% of players. #OccupyNHL
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Couldn’t think of the term
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
Pension Plan Puppets: A Toronto Maple Leafs blog and a group therapy session.
99% of player salaries are payed out to only 1% of players. #OccupyNHL
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by MLS on Feb 29, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Can you copy this into a fanpost so it can be saved forever?
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Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing - Vince Lombardi
So can we call up Kadri now to get him some actual NHL experience or are the games still too important to play him?
by scott tubbesing on Feb 28, 2012 11:53 PM EST reply actions
Alright I’m out, but thank you all for making me feel better (even if it was due to me getting to be a bit of an ass). I’m heading to my 1st ever Leafs game tomorrow (at 24, which is sad), so hopefully it’ll spark the turnaround for us.
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Feb 28, 2012 11:57 PM EST reply actions
have fun
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Feb 28, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, I’m 28 and just went to my first game. Here’s hoping yours goes better than mine!
by LeafInVancouver on Feb 29, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
It’s always fun to go to a game especially in an opposition rink. If the Leafs weren’t this bad I’d have considered going to tomorrow’s game too.
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This place is getting a tad demoralizing, at least from my perspective. Mopey (which is understandable) but also pretty nasty some nights in the GDT’s.
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Well played
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by Killer Sundin on Feb 29, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a PPP GDT get that nasty.
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Do we need to bring in more cute animals?
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 29, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
I think people are starting to realize that 4 years into Burke’s “rebuild on the fly”, this team still sucks and is barely better than it was before he got here
Except that the cupboard isn’t nearly as empty as it was before him. Like I said, the mopeyness is understandable, but the general atmosphere is getting a bit more depressing
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by Killer Sundin on Feb 29, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
A lot more hostile too.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 29, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
Like Wilson says, the sun will come out....TOMORROW
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 29, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
PPP isn’t the only Leafs spot on the web with nasty Mojo going.
Frustrations are understandable. But I can’t recall things being this toxic. And I remember Ballard.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 29, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
Luckily there were no blogs, chat rooms, 24-hour sports radio, etc during the Ballard years.
Actually, it was nice being an 8-year old, blissfully unaware of how bad the 1984 Leafs really were. I just thought it was fun watching guys score a lot of goals.
Remember that season when we didn't have a disastrous soul-crushing 10-game stretch? Yeah me neither. tweet tweet @dannyd1976.
Rick Vaive FTW.
Young Wendel making grown men cry.
And you had to wait until Sportsdesk to get any news. Once a day. Twice if you stayed up past your bedtime.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 29, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
Sportsline, with Hebsy and the Jimmer.
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by GreatKingRat on Feb 29, 2012 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
YES GUY
Overtime loss: The new black.
by Varry Galk on Feb 29, 2012 7:55 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Eh
After this year, Wilson’s gone. After next year, Burke’s gone. Then we get to go through what will inevitably be another failed rebuild.
Good lord
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by Killer Sundin on Feb 29, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
I think it’s about shattered expectations. The Leafs managed to hold down a playoff spot for so long this season, it seemed as if even mediocre play would have carried them into 8th. But, especially tonight, it’s become clear that the Leafs aren’t a playoff team. And that’s gotta be disappointing, especially since it means that if the Leafs aren’t a playoff team this year, they’re not a contender in 2-3 years.
Moreover, you’re seeing a convergence among what Cox called the Two Solitudes of Leafs fans. Some of the fans – those who bought in most easily to the “rebuild on the fly” -wanted Burke to trade futures for a shot at the playoffs. They were disappointed – now doubly so, as even with Nash and a goalie, it’s clear that the playoffs would still be questionable. And now it’s clear to them that a quick fix from Burke is a mirage.
The other solitude, represented by myself and others, are the Tank Nation, the people who believe that picking up salary-cap cheap elite talent is the only way to build a champion. However, we’re still Leafs fans, and we’re still disappointed that the Leafs didn’t make the playoffs this year after such a promising season. Moreover, we’re disappointed that Burke didn’t sell enough at this deadline at the peak of some players’ value, to help shore up the prospect pool for an eventual build from within.
Either way, both sides of Leafs fandom are pissed. Hence the nasty.
Next season of 24/7: "I am named Mikhail. I watch video to fold together strategy. I want outdoors to fight bravely."
by Peter de Chatham on Feb 29, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
Up until the last few weeks, we put forth a solid effort and had a hold in the playoffs.
At some point it was like someone flipped a switch and turned the suck level up to 11.
I am not some bandwagoner, I will not give up after a few bad games.
We have a vastly improved team and a junior team in place to make a swing at a championship.
Please don’t compare us to a team full of Toskala’s and Mayers’ , that is just fucking silly.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 29, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Rec’d. Having perspective is a good thing, and also doesn’t mean we can’t still hold Wilson and Burke for what they’ve fucked up.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 29, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
Responsible for what they’ve fucked up.
Post fail. That’s it off to bed I go. To dream of a “Wilson Fired” press conference.
by AsburyJukes75 on Feb 29, 2012 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
How is this awful team going to make a swing at a championship? I’m tired of waiting and being optimistic. Burke’s failed, he’s sucessfully torn down a playoff bubble team and rebuilt all the way back up to being a playoff bubble team.
Marlies- the junior team.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 29, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
How short sighted is that? We have a lot more prospects in the system capable playing in the NHL soon compared to Ferguson
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by Killer Sundin on Feb 29, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not arguing that isn’t the case. But to be fair a fucking chimp could put together a better group of young talent than JFJ. And I really don’t think even if those prospects turn out great, that it will be enough to turn this crappy group he’s assembled into anything more than a bubble playoff team.
that’s true. While I don’t like the Kessel deal, we still got Kessel out of it, and that’s something. Plus Burke brought us Phaneuf and Gardiner. If Grabbo resigns, then that’s another a solid 2nd liner we’ll have for a while, and a veteran leader for the kids.
While it’s less probable, Schenn may yet take a step forward. Mark Owuya is having a promising season with the Marlies. Colborne and Kadri may yet become good 2nd liners. McKegg will make the jump to the pros next year.
While the talent that’s been stocked up under Burke so far isn’t (apart from Kessel and Gardinerl) elite level talent, it’s still something to build on. Much more so than the Ferguson years. Add a Grigorenko or Radek Faksa to it, and in a few years, you’re in business.
Next season of 24/7: "I am named Mikhail. I watch video to fold together strategy. I want outdoors to fight bravely."
by Peter de Chatham on Feb 29, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
Mopey (which is understandable) but also pretty nasty some nights in the GDT’s.
Agreed.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 29, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
OK I’ve let the loss cool off but I still want Wilson fired. This is fucking horseshit.
by scott tubbesing on Feb 29, 2012 12:12 AM EST reply actions
On the positive side
assuming we get to see the Leafs win a cup in our lifetimes. It will be the most amazing thing we have ever experienced because we had to go through all this shit to get to it.
It’s gonna be when we’re like 86 just like the Red Sox.
by scott tubbesing on Feb 29, 2012 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
It can’t be. I won’t live that long. Next 10 years or my heart will give out.
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Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing - Vince Lombardi
I'm a fan
I always have been and I always will be. I love this team like crazy. But still…
Fuck
this
shit.
by LeftNutForAStarCenter on Feb 29, 2012 1:06 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'm a fan
I always have been and I always will be. I love this team like crazy. But still…
Fuck
this
shit.
by LeftNutForAStarCenter on Feb 29, 2012 1:06 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'm a fan
I always have been and I always will be. I love this team like crazy. But still…
Shit
this
fuck.
by LeafInVancouver on Feb 29, 2012 1:07 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I like you.
99% of player salaries are payed out to only 1% of players. #OccupyNHL
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Every time somebody writes that, all I think of is this
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 29, 2012 1:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So do I.
I’m not angry, just… disappointed.
by LeafInVancouver on Feb 29, 2012 1:18 AM EST up reply actions
Today was only great because..
I saw a guy that sounded like the goalie from slapshot try to cash a lottery ticket he bought on the 27th, with the date changed in pen to the 25th of Feb and he argued with the teller for a half hour cause he said he got 5 numbers.
Brown ____ ______
Gardiner _______
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Stanley Cup Champions 20__
_ Kessel ______ ______ Bozak _
Brown ____ ______
Gardiner _______
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Stanley Cup Champions 20__
At least it's not Lebda.
Good for me
I made it worse
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 29, 2012 1:24 AM EST up reply actions
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by sportsfan2 on Feb 29, 2012 1:24 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I also reply failed.
Fuck I’m smooth.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 29, 2012 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
I really wonder how this team would play in front of an all star goaltender….. look at me i’m already looking for the bright side after near manic depression
haha yeah thats fair but….i’m assuming we’ve all played hockey at some point ( or at least some kind of competitive sport) im not claiming to be anything CLOSE to a professional, but I definitely know that i make mistakes when I’m thinking too much. Hockey is an instinct sport, and it has to be extremely difficult to make plays when your mind is worrying about the siv behind you.
Solid goaltending can cover up a metric fuck tonne of mistakes. Which we make a lot of because we are young and still weeding out a few bad players.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 29, 2012 1:38 AM EST up reply actions
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I will stand beside him with an axe! @theninjagreg
by theninjagreg on Feb 29, 2012 1:51 AM EST up reply actions
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I will stand beside him with an axe! @theninjagreg
by theninjagreg on Feb 29, 2012 1:52 AM EST up reply actions
basically im conceeding that we have attained exactly three pieces in three years
a top line winger
a third line center
and an all star puck moving skating defensemen
Let’s not get too ahead of ourselves with Gardiner. He’s awesome but he’s a rookie.
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by Nifty Mittens on Feb 29, 2012 1:43 AM EST up reply actions
absolutely true. BUT I just really believe that he’s the real deal…i’ve never felt this way about any prospect before. I remember when Kaberle made the team as a rookie and he was nowhere near as impressive as gardiner. anything can happen but i really believe in this kid
I don’t think any of us have issues with Gardiner and Gunnarsson, and most of us like Phaneuf. The others, however….
Phaneuf is great on offensive side of center ice..
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by happiergilmore on Feb 29, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
Somehow, this thread has actually made me feel better about the whole situation.
Solidarity and whatnot, I suppose. Even if I don’t have a winning team, I still have a good amount of people thousands of miles away who feel the same way I do right now.
Here’s to better times.
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I know. Especially someone like me. I live in Louisiana for christ’s sake. Not a lot of Leafs fans around to mope with.
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by TheOtherAndrew on Feb 29, 2012 1:47 AM EST up reply actions
Thats sounds better than living in a city with a winning hockey team and an endless supply of people ready to mock you constantly…
Where are you? Boston, Pittsburgh, Detroit or Chicago?
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I hope not Vancouver…
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by TheOtherAndrew on Feb 29, 2012 1:51 AM EST up reply actions
Oof. If I’m ever in town, I’m buying you a beer. Or several.
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by TheOtherAndrew on Feb 29, 2012 1:53 AM EST up reply actions
I’ll buy you one with the money I made selling my tickets to that 6-2 loss…a wise decision in hindsight
haha. sounds good. I don’t know if Rogers Arena’s a good place to watch a hockey game, but I don’t think I’d want to see the Leafs play there. Not this incarnation of the team, anyway.
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by TheOtherAndrew on Feb 29, 2012 1:58 AM EST up reply actions
It was great fun pre lockout. We’d win most of the time, lots of friendly trash talk. Now it really sucks, unless you’re a Canucks fan of course.
Right. They’re insistent on making Leafs-Nucks into a rivalry, even though we could give a shit. I’m glad I don’t know any of their fans.
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by TheOtherAndrew on Feb 29, 2012 2:02 AM EST up reply actions
CUZ LAFFS R ON HOCKEY NITE INCANADA ALOT!!!!!
Which makes no sense because HNIC is fast on the path to irrelevance.
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by TheOtherAndrew on Feb 29, 2012 2:10 AM EST up reply actions
19-never is my response whenever my sister’s friends talk shit. (She’s in Vancouver but remains a Leafs fan, casual fan)
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Yup. I can’t stand how they pretend everything pre-expansion is totally illegitimate. Anyway, its not like 1970 is that much longer than 1967
If they want to just ignore pre-1967 then I want to ignore the Ballard years. Our drought becomes much shorter. Luckily history doesn’t let us just pretend some years don’t count.
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What if I just want to pretend that 2009-10 doesn’t count? I mean, if it’s just one…
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by TheOtherAndrew on Feb 29, 2012 2:06 AM EST up reply actions
The other thing I don’t get is the argument that you shouldn’t be a Leafs fan because they “suck”. By that logic you should just be a fan of whatever team wins the cup every year…and I doubt anybody in Van would want to cheer for Boston, or Chicago for that matter. I’d like to see them survive the shit we have…the team was going bankrupt after 3 years out of the playoffs in the 90s.
If our roster had been playing in Columbus since the lockout…hello Les Blue Jackets de Quebec.
*I’m sure I screwed that up. No parle the french.
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by TheOtherAndrew on Feb 29, 2012 2:11 AM EST up reply actions
It’s a ridiculous argument. You know parents you shouldn’t love your kid because he didn’t finish at the top of his class. What stupid parents you are loving your kid no matter what.
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As much as I’d like the Rangers to own the longest cup drought, I still feel pretty grateful to them for pulling off the win in 94. Those fucks with a cup would just be the worst.
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by TheOtherAndrew on Feb 29, 2012 2:06 AM EST up reply actions
A Canucks fan chanting 1967 would be like Adam Sandler yelling at Martin Scorsese for making too many shitty movies.
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by TheOtherAndrew on Feb 29, 2012 2:04 AM EST up reply actions
To be fair, there have been WAY worse Oscar years in which Scorsese got robbed.
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by TheOtherAndrew on Feb 29, 2012 2:08 AM EST up reply actions
I still haven’t seen The Artist. I may go tomorrow. Also have to see Hugo. I have no interest in Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close.
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Extremely loud etc apparently really sucks. Can’t believe it was nominated. Though I haven’t seen it so I guess I shouldn’t judge.
I saw War Horse yesterday. I can’t believe that got nominated either. I wanted to shoot the horse myself.
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hahaha. Why was that a movie?
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by TheOtherAndrew on Feb 29, 2012 2:13 AM EST up reply actions
Spoiler Alert
I have no idea. I only watched it because I got it free. Summary: It’s an expensive horse that can understand English but not speak it. It’s taken over by a stupid British army who don’t understand what machine gun turrets are, it sacrifices its body for other horses, gets picked up by some girl who has a really strange relationship with her grandpa, is kidnapped by Nazi soldiers fighting 20 years too early, runs around like an idiot through No Man’s Land somehow avoiding all the landmines that still kill people today, gets caught in some wires after tearing them down so easily one wonders why the army just didn’t use horses instead of wire cutters, is saved by Axis and the Allies uniting despite them killing thousands of each other, recognized by a blind kid, and stares of into the sun.
Crap on celluloid or whatever they’re making movies on nowadays.
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Wow. Sounds dumb enough to be an M. Night Shymalan movie.
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by TheOtherAndrew on Feb 29, 2012 2:27 AM EST up reply actions
do you guys think Burke will re-rebuild? or is he as egotistical as he appears? I don’t think anyone can fault him for what hes done…looking at the group he inherited. Sure you can blame him for the kessel trade, but you have to take risks as a gm and he’s definitely improved the club from our post lockout status… I just hope he has enough humility to do what’s best for the club, and not for his reputation. Imagine if he inherited the group we have right now and this was his first year… would he still have done nothing on deadline day? maybe its time for a new gm, not because Burke isn’t a capable general manager, but so that the new GM will treat this group like Burke treated the group he originally inherited and not the group that HE, SIR BRIAN BURKE HAS FASHIONED FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS….you know?
No. He doesn’t believe in a slow rebuild. He didn’t want to trade players for picks. He believes in the group. This is our team, like it or not. Next year at this time how different can it really be?
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One day it will dawn on Burke, that his two year ducks style retooling for the leafs has failed. And he needs to embrace his seven year canucks style lengthy rebuild. I’m guessing he thought he could replicate the success he had on the ducks.
The team constructed poorly – the forwards are poor at puck battles, cycling and defensive aspects of the game so they generally score off the rush and ignore the defensive aspects of the game. And the defenders are either slow skaters and don’t fit the forwards uptempo game or offensive gifted that don’t do defence. The team is Burke’s Frankenstein stitched together like Boyce’s nose.
He pretty much took over Murray’s team and then traded for Pronger – Cup Win.
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And he needs to embrace his seven year canucks style lengthy rebuild.
But, y’know, with goalies.
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by TheOtherAndrew on Feb 29, 2012 2:14 AM EST up reply actions
If he winds up humiliating Vancouver as much as he did with the Panthers? I’d take that in a heartbeat.
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by TheOtherAndrew on Feb 29, 2012 2:19 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah. That’s be great. Luongo disappears in the playoffs but the Leafs are in no danger of making those anytime soon.
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I’ll take a Vezina finalist. That’d be a pretty sweet baby step. It’s not like our fans are gonna treat him worse than theirs.
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by TheOtherAndrew on Feb 29, 2012 2:34 AM EST up reply actions
He’s signed until 2022. I don’t think Vancouver can move that contract. They’re hoping an amnesty clause comes in the next CBA. Leafs can use it on Komi.
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No. It’s because he’s impatient. The question has to be asked whether he was the right man for the rebuild when he’s made it clear he’s impatient. That being said hanging around the bottom of the League hoping for superstars doesn’t always work. Chemmy and I had a discussion about this on twitter earlier today (or I guess yesterday).
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The thing I don’t get about BB is that this team is nothing like he promised. All that talk of toughness…we have to be one of the weaker teams in the league. Now if we weren’t big/tough and played like Detroit, thats one thing, but we just suck instead.
We're also the second youngest
I heard young people have consistency and size problems.
The good news is, by watching more leaf seasons, they will get better.
I dont know…the more i try to be objective about it, the more it seems that burke just says what we want to hear to keep his job. Nobody wants to hear that it’s going to be 7 years before we are a contender. i think Jeffgm nailed it.
I believe what I saw
We didn’t have a team when Burke took over – sub 20th in league
We have a bubble team now. The picks that Burke got, he flips for more assets. He’s loaded our team with young prospects, which do what young players do. But they’re also getting better every year.
Look at the Aulie deal. A fourth-round pick, a throw-in in the Phaneuf trade. Helped the marlies out, even did some time last year in the NHL.
Flipped for a first round prospect Carter – rated Tampa Bay’s #1 by Hockey News.
Brian Burke, so far, has been the king of resource management. He’s made great moves for toronto, and we have in fact improved – despite the current drought. So as far as Brian Burke goes, I think he’s a good GM. Unfortunately the “Team of the Future” is still a few years out.
It’s the coach I’m having trouble reconciling with.
Counter
1. Burke has always stated his goal is to be competitive in the playoffs not squeak in.
2, This is not a bubble team unless the bubble they’re attempting to get into is lottery picks.
3. Aulie wasn’t a throw in in the Phaneuf deal. Burke has stated the Phaneuf deal wouldn’t have happened if Aulie wasn’t included.
4.rating a prospect #1 in a system doesn’t mean much unless the team is stacked with prospects.
5. Burke hasn’t been excellent with resource management. Even in the best case scenario the Kessel deal is a wash if not a Boston victory (Dougie Hamilton pushes it over the edge). Even if we grant that other than that he’s made some great trades, which he has, he also has countered that with horrible FA signings. Perhaps he’s not used to the cap yet but having $7.5 million in cap space with Komisarek and Armstrong sitting on most nights is bad player evaluation
6. His team of the future is full of second liners.
7. He has never been good at evaluating goaltending talent. Remember Cloutier in Vancouver? Waiving Bryzgalov in Anahiem (the same year that moron JFJ traded the moon for Toskala)
8. He’s too fucking loyal to Ron Wilson and would rather make a point to the media by resigning him and having him announce it on Twitter on Christmas Day than fire his ass and get a new coach.
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YOU CAN HAVE MY HOCKEY TEAM BASED GOD.
I sacrifice my signature to the Based God.
Damn
You guys sound miserable. Sheesh.
On a lighter note, how bout that Karlsson kid :)
Go Sens Go
Way to fuck up that draft pick in the rebuilding process. That being said I have friends who are Sens fans and I remember every game of the 4 glorious years you lost to us in the playoffs despite being
“favourites” every time.
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Glenn Healy = Raw sewage.
Lol Howson
by Future_considerations on Feb 29, 2012 3:12 AM EST up reply actions
WHATS A SENS
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by TheOtherAndrew on Feb 29, 2012 3:18 AM EST up reply actions
Congratulations on ruining your draft pick, and remaining irrelevant to the rest of the hockey world.
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I don't want to get in an argument, but...
I don’t know what kind of hockey fan would prefer their team finish out of the playoffs for the sake of a rebuild.
I’m sure you wouldn’t consider the Leafs various conference finals runs over the past two decades a mistake by the organization.
by TheGuineaPig on Feb 29, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
I’m one of the older ones i guess, this current stretch of leaf hockey is the worst since the mid to late 80’s.
Wilson should have been terminated after last years 9 or 10 game losing streak.
All they are doing is pissing away years.
And i’m noit getting any younger
Glenn Healy = Raw sewage.
Lol Howson
by Future_considerations on Feb 29, 2012 3:17 AM EST reply actions
Damn.
I might be in the minority on the west coast, but I’ve been rooting for you guys for years now. You guys are an awesome fan base, and I feel your pain on waiting for a cup.. Trust me, I feel your pain. I don’t have a whole lot to say in terms of encouragement or anything, just saw this post and saw what’s been happening with your guys lately, and wanted to say something along the lines of, “I’m really sorry to see this happening to you guys.” Leafs nation is one of the best fan bases in sports, and deserves way better.
by RogerFenway on Feb 29, 2012 11:45 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
Leafs nation is one of the best fan bases in sports
Why is this not green?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 29, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Also;
Just wanted to respond to the idea I’ve seen a million times that this is somehow the fault of Leafs nation, for continuing to support a losing team, and what a crock of shit I think that concept is. You support your team, win or lose, thick and thin. By that logic, Tampa Bay, Anaheim, and Colorado are the best fan bases in the league. Keep on keepin’ on, guys. It’ll come eventually.
by RogerFenway on Feb 29, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Leafs will turn this around...
however, it may not be enough to salvage this season and get into a playoff spot, but this Leafs team will get things in order for next season…I have confidence in these guys….but not with Wilson behind the bench…..
Oh man...
As an Islanders fan, totally understand how you guys feel, though in some ways it’s almost been worse. I was 11 during the Isles-Leafs 2002 series, the last time the Isles had ANY chance of making a deep playoff run and I was 2(!) years old the last time they’ve one A SINGLE playoff series. I’m constantly ridiculed by my Rangers fan friends and even my Devils fan friends (and every other fanbase in the league) and it sure as hell doesn’t help to see the Rangers sitting on top the eastern conference. We’ve got a nice core of young players, but you’d think by this time they’d be closer to at least a furious playoff push. If only it were the early 80’s….
oh come on. your one of the last dynasties. the rangers are envious believe me. the devils, who are a good team generally over the years would kill to be regarded like the 80’s islanders. dont even bring up the rangers, they are and will remain a goddam joke.
I mean it. Bring him back.
by bringbackbower on Feb 29, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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