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When I was a kid, there was a lot of corporate and fan support for the Winnipeg Jets. Haha, not really - I was a kid in the 90s, a time when Winnipeg's barn could only be filled by talented teams coming to town, and still averaged two thousand empty seats a night. Sure, nowadays you could probably find someone who remembers the "glory days" of the WHL and the Winnipeg Jets - someone who'll talk your ear off about Dale Hawerchuk, Bobby Hull, and four years of Keith Tkachuk - but their stories will probably finish with "and that's why their banners shouldn't be in Phoenix."

As the Jets of old continue the franchise tradition of fan-free hockey in Phoenix, the NHL decided to replace the lost franchise with a losing one. Today's Jets have inherited a history of Patrick Stefan, of Marc Savard's futile career high, and of, uh, eighteen games of Keith Tkachuk. The team seems to like playing in Winnipeg, probably because it's the highest home attendance they've been able to attract without appealing to local demographics. The AHL arena gets loud when the crowd boos opposition players at random - begging for a rivalry, natural or otherwise.

For its own sake, I hope the fan base keeps up its random hate-on for threatening opposition players; if the fans stop booing, they might notice that the greatest accomplishment their inherited on-ice product has ever accomplished was being swept in the first round of the franchise's lone playoff appearance. To this, they added players like Kyle Wellwood and Nik Antropov - castoffs from the Leafs' six years of post-lockout futility - and felt like they could talk about history. And if the fanbase ever stops booing long enough to notice that these Jets have a worse playoff record than the pre-Phoenix Coyotes did, they might stop coming to the games. Again.

Star-divide

The Leafs played "okay" in the second half of a back to back. They kept it close, but didn't have much jump on the rush, and the Jets' won a lot of the battles along the boards. The meager 18 shots on net describes much of the game.

A few thoughts:

  • The opening goal of the game was scored by Phil Kessel, who cut inside and rifled a shot past Pavelec, evoking memories of the Jets' greatest goal scorer, Ilya Kovalchuk, whose trade has never been debated, because who could defend a package that amounted to Johnny Oduya and Patrice Cormier?
  • Bozak and Lupul's Fenwick/Corsi numbers continue to struggle relative to Kessel's. The Leafs really could use a better possession player next to Kessel on that top line. Wilson had Kessel on ice with MacArthur and Grabovski for much of the last 5 minutes of play.
  • Franson didn't have a great night. Some slow footwork exposed defensive shortcomings. Gardiner had the opposite problem, as he largely covered over some rookie decision making with some very nice skating. Luke Schenn only played 14:28 on ice.
  • Gustavsson looked "meh." He stopped 26 of 28, but allowed a sharp angle backhand shot through the fivehole. Those are hard to read, but you've gotta shut the barn door. It's hard to get upset at him when the team obviously didn't control play, but at the same time, there's still a goal that I'm sure he wants back. It doesn't help that, in general, Winnipeg is not a goal scoring team: The two goal effort is higher than the team's abysmal average of 1.44 goals over the previous 16 games.
  • He wasn't tested much, but Pavelec looked good tonight, in part because his agent wasn't trying to make stupid hashtags happen.

Shift Chart - Fenwick/Corsi - Zone Starts

The Leafs fell to a team that's closer to being passed by the Islanders than it is to clinching a playoff spot, but Ottawa lost to St Louis, Pittsburgh takes home a loser point (Montreal gets the SO-W), and Florida lost a 2 point game to the Capitals. The Leafs will need to make up three points on the Pens to get to that juicy six seed against Washington/Florida, but staying ahead one of Florida or 3-more-GP Ottawa shouldn't be too bad. If the Leafs are frustrated by tonight's loss, they can head out to the great city of Winnipeg and enjoy its finest traditional nightlife: shanking someone.

For those who missed out, Hawerchuk wrote a lovely preview of tonight's game over on Arctic Ice Hockey.

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Mike Eastwood is certainly forgettable

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 7, 2012 11:34 PM EST reply actions  

Yes, wanted to say this.

If I bled any more blue, you'd think I wasn't human.

by Adrian O on Feb 7, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Ya. He was. When I was 11 I thought it was cool to meet him, but even then I knew it was maybe .00001% as cool as meeting Dougie would have been.

My mood probably depends on the results of last Leafs game. I may have a problem.

by DiaDud on Feb 8, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

The inexplicable passing up shooting opportunities was the most frustrating tonight. Hopefully Wilson makes that clear. I lost track of the times I thought someone would shoot it but instead attempted a pass that thrown right onto a Jet’s stick.

Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.

by BlindSight on Feb 7, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously how awful was it when Gus tried to get off the ice when we hadn’t even left the zone

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 7, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Man, the fact that the Peg fans boo Kessel and Phaneuf just because they’re our star players is so juvenile.

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by Joe Ferguson on Feb 7, 2012 11:35 PM EST reply actions  

Meh

They can boo whoever they want. I just think it’s funny that Leafs fans get shit on for booing Alfredsson when there’s actual history there (attempted murder of Tucker) and don’t say shit about the Thrashers fans booing.

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by PPP on Feb 7, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Back in my day, we booed the other team’s best player for a reason!

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by Draglikepull on Feb 8, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Because you were jealous that he was going to be the one sacrificed to the gods?

by LeafInVancouver on Feb 8, 2012 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was funny that they were booing Gardiner of all people at one point. Gardiner.

I will stand beside him with an axe!

by theninjagreg on Feb 8, 2012 1:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Well, when your team has NO all-stars……

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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 7, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

This. Some Jets fan that I heard was complaining that the NHL didn’t fix the selection so there was at least one Jets player in the all-star game.

I think you’re doing it wrong…

If I bled any more blue, you'd think I wasn't human.

by Adrian O on Feb 7, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Byfuglien was their rep and injured (and probably not even that deserving), Kane had a concussion, Enstrom had plans. What was the NHL supposed to do; send Wellwood?

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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 7, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

They might as well have just sent a box of donuts.

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by MLS on Feb 7, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

He made the most sense

He was lights out in the skills competition the team had in the shot accuracy category

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by canadian texan on Feb 8, 2012 2:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Possibly, I’d have considered Kane (but for the concussion) over him but then again there were a lot of forwards.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 8, 2012 3:06 AM EST up reply actions  

They probably just saw Ottawa fans doing it and decided to jump on the bandwagon.

Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.

by BlindSight on Feb 7, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

If theyre booing you then you must be doing something right, no?

Also, fuck winnipeg.

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by mass9 on Feb 7, 2012 11:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

the day i convince myself

superstitions have nothing to do with Leafs wins/losses, i go and wear my cursed black FILA socks. Damnit Sorry guys :(

Hey we’re still in 7th with 3 games in hand right? i’ll never do it again, i promise <3

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by OffTheChest on Feb 7, 2012 11:39 PM EST reply actions  

Whatever socks you wore has nothing to do with their shitty play on the ice.

Seriously, I let superstitions go a long time ago.

If I bled any more blue, you'd think I wasn't human.

by Adrian O on Feb 7, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

No one actually takes it seriously.

Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.

by BlindSight on Feb 7, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

yeah, about that.

i was kidding :)

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by OffTheChest on Feb 7, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

there’s this one that never fails….
every time the leafs score more than the opposition, they win the game!
#truestory

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 7, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

And shots tonight don’t really match the score effects narrative tonight

by jeffgm on Feb 7, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

how do you find the game number? I want to check timonice.com

the tsn crew said winnipeg had something like 6 missed shots all night. so despite their shot total, their Corsi and Fenwick numbers were probably not all that good

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 7, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

the links are above in the post summary

by jeffgm on Feb 7, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

But foe future reference check out the numbers in the url at nhl.com’s game summary or box score. The first 4 digits are the year, the next five are the game number, where the first digit is 1,2, or 3, wwith 1 being preseason, 2 regular, and 3 post.

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by theninjagreg on Feb 8, 2012 1:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Ah, I figured it would be in the box score somewhere. Thanks

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 8, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

right, so the leafs played pretty awful either way, but the jets certainly did not dominate
I would be interested to see TOA numbers for tonight’s game as well

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 8, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Just to clarify, we’re down to 2 games in hand with Ottawa

by plen on Feb 7, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

good enough for me.

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by OffTheChest on Feb 8, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Kovalchuk? Playoff appearance? What? This is a completely new team with no history at all.

by LeafInVancouver on Feb 7, 2012 11:51 PM EST reply actions  

And Bettman is cruelly forcing them to take the history of the Thrashers because he's a dick.

by LeafInVancouver on Feb 7, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep. The Winnipeg Jets suck.

Yet somehow we won the season series against the Leafs. Feel free to draw your own conclusions.

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by arby_18 on Feb 8, 2012 12:10 AM EST reply actions  

Wait a minute.

Feb 07 ’12 TOR 1 @ WPG 2 Bryan Little
Jan 05 ’12 WPG 0 @ TOR 4 Phil Kessel
Dec 31 ’11 TOR 2 @ WPG 3 Blake Wheeler
Oct 19 ’11 WPG 3 @ TOR 4 – SO Joffrey Lupul

Does that or does that not look like a 2-2 tie? The only way the Jets win that is if we count points earned instead of wins.

by LeafInVancouver on Feb 8, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

He’s counting the point gained in a shootout loss, yes.

Whatever floats your boat.

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by Adrian O on Feb 8, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

See what I said below. They “win” the season series 5-4 in points gained.

Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.

by BlindSight on Feb 8, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Well, if that’s how we’re playing it, Leafs win the season series due to scoring goal differential. DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS.

by LeafInVancouver on Feb 8, 2012 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I draw the conclusion that we’ll win the Cup because we won the season series against the Bruins last year, and the Jets “won” the season series against us.

SEE? I CAN BULLSHIT WITH THE REST OF THEM.

If I bled any more blue, you'd think I wasn't human.

by Adrian O on Feb 8, 2012 12:32 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Whatever we’ve used the same excuse for arguing that we havent lost the season series to the canadians since the lockout or something.

Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.

by BlindSight on Feb 8, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

But that’s different because fuck the Habs.

by LeafInVancouver on Feb 8, 2012 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve never argued that point. And not mostly because I wasn’t aware of it.

If I bled any more blue, you'd think I wasn't human.

by Adrian O on Feb 8, 2012 12:35 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

looks like you were 2-2-0 and we were 2-1-1, giving us 5 points to your 4

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by canadian texan on Feb 8, 2012 2:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah yes, but today your blog argued we had losing seasons if you counted the loser points as straight up losses, and now they seem to have more value.

Soooo…which is it? ::smug::

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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 8, 2012 3:08 AM EST up reply actions  

my way. obviously. lol. there’s a few of them that refuse to acknowledge the single point games as anything other than straight up losses. according to me (and math) 5 points is greater than 4, so by that logic the Jets “were better”. Though by the logic of the standings…not so much. I don’t foresee it ever being a problem until next year when we all start jibber jabbering at each-other again

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by canadian texan on Feb 8, 2012 3:33 AM EST up reply actions  

boom. Toasted

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by LeafFan1989 on Feb 8, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

and Boston gets owned by Carolina.

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by OffTheChest on Feb 8, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The Jets won the season series through a loser point. A lot to scoff at.

Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.

by BlindSight on Feb 8, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

are you going to be okay?

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 8, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yep. The Toronto Maple Leafs lost.

Yet somehow we’re still 6 points ahead of the Jets with a game in hand. Feel free to draw your own conclusi…..oh, wait. You can’t really, since, y’know, those are the NHL standings.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 8, 2012 12:34 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

to be totally honest,

their team should probably be one of the better teams in the leauge because it’s uhhhh, Winnipeg. what else is there to do in Winnipeg other than play hockey?

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by OffTheChest on Feb 8, 2012 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

“Free” dinners?

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Congratulations

That’s probably the greatest success you’ll have all season.

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by Blinky on Feb 8, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

A gif of Kessel scoring his 30th goal for the 4th year in a row are always acceptable.

by LeafInVancouver on Feb 8, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Not opposed to hating Winnipeg and the Jets, necessarily...

Just wondering why I’m supposed to hate them so much…Seems to be a lot of vitriol for the team and the city in the comments…What gives?

by Twisted Sittler on Feb 8, 2012 7:05 AM EST reply actions  

Fuck 29 teams not named Toronto, that’s why

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 7:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously? It’s in the last line of the recap. Sometimes, I think people don’t even read watch the recap.

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by Bower Power on Feb 8, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Oops! Sorry. Thanks for your angry response.

by Twisted Sittler on Feb 8, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Boy, is my face red, especially after that trip to Arctic Ice yesterday.

Are sulkers welcome here?

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 8:37 AM EST reply actions  

I watched the game at my parents’ last night and my mom was in and out of the room. She listens to one of those old people morning shows on her morning drive. Anyways, she asked if Reimer was starting and we said no. Then she told us why she asked.

Apparently there is this super die-hard Jets fan that calls into this radio show after games between the Jets and Leafs. My mom was saying how after the last game Reimer started in Winnipeg the guy called in and said he was actually disgusted with his fellow Jets fans. Apparently Reimer had a large contingent of family at the game, many in Reimer jerseys and Leafs gear, including his grandfather. The jets fans sitting near them (they took up an entire row) were heckling them and mocking Reimer to them the entire game. The grandfather was apparently in tears after.

I get booing another team’s players if they are cocky or whatever, and even maybe making fun of some of their select family members (Lee Stempniak’s brother), but seriously, mercilessly mocking a hometown kid who is by all accounts an great and friendly guy, and his family, is ridiculous.

Anyways, this is all hearsay, but still, stay classy Jets fans.

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by Shield on Feb 8, 2012 12:48 PM EST reply actions  

Wow. I am so glad the Jets suck. Shame on those fans.

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 8, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

That sounds right.

Winnipeg has good fans, but their worst are exactly that – the worst.

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by TJCAPS on Feb 8, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Winnipeg is fast becoming Philly North.

Cept for the actual city – that would be some horrible combination between buffalo and Detroit

Detroitalo?

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Feb 8, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Buffoit
its like the opposite of a Buffet, instead of a plentiful bounty, it is a desolate wasteland

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Every town has shitty fans.

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by TheOtherAndrew on Feb 8, 2012 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

There’s a difference between being a shitty fan and being a downright asshole.

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by Shield on Feb 9, 2012 4:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Some of Toronto fans are awful

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 9, 2012 7:47 AM EST up reply actions  

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