Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Full Coverage of 2012 Coke 600

Do The Leafs 'Give Up' on Grabbo?

Great job pineapple man.

What is Mikhail Grabovski Worth? - James Mirtle at the Globe and Mail

After a slow start this year, the 28-year-old Belarussian has again been the best Leaf on the ice over the last 15 games, with 12 points in his last six and 20 during Toronto’s 10-4-1 run since the start of 2012.

His scoring pace is now better than it was a year ago – 31 goals, 68 points over 82 games – despite the fact he’s spent most of the season with a bit of an anchor on his line in Nikolai Kulemin.

While Grabovski doesn’t play with Phil Kessel and Joffrey Lupul, there’s not really any argument that he isn’t Toronto’s best centre right now – and that’s a position where this team needs to add rather than subtract.

And he’s definitely not underappreciated by his teammates, who look at him as one of the team’s on-ice leaders.

Mirtle speculates it'll cost between $4.5 and $5.5M to re-sign Grabbo. But where does the money come from you say? If I'm Burke I'm looking to move Connolly for whatever I can get at the deadline; same goes for Komisarek and Armstrong. None of those three have had any meaningful impact on the Leafs good turn of fortunes in 2012, and all are grossly overpaid. No way should this team lose a player like Grabovski in order retain a player like Komisarek or Armstrong.

Links after the jump.

Star-divide

Leafs Links

Jake Gardiner's Chances at a Calder Nomination

Somewhere between 'Slim' and 'None'.

Winter Classic About to Go Big in Michigan

Official announcement expected on Thursday.

Is Grabovski a Number One Center?

23rd in center scoring last year; 18th this year; and with a nasty two-way game. Yes.

Toronto Maple Leafs post-game audio | Illegal Curve Hockey

Post game audio from Goose, Crabb, and Wilson

Other Links

The Worst Hockey Profile Picture We've Ever Seen

Dirty Dangle is not exaggerating here either. Ho Lee Shit.

Twelve Big Names Who Could Be on the Move at the 2012 Trade Deadline

DGB take a foray into trade speculation.

30 Thoughts and Not 1 of Them About the Leafs?

For shame Friedman, for shame.

Comment 755 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

More from Pension Plan Puppets

How Do You Spell Denial? J-E-T-S

May 2012 by SkinnyFish - 389 comments

Kule & some links

May 2012 by birky - 178 comments

That's All Folks

Apr 2012 by birky - 359 comments

Grumble

Apr 2012 by JP Nikota - 27 comments

Dumb and Dumberer

Apr 2012 by birky - 178 comments

Comments

Display:

We re-sign Grabbo and give up on people significantly underperforming on their contracts. I really doubt we can move Connolly, though who wouldn’t like that, and the same goes for Komi – although he will only be paid 3.5 million with a 4.5 million cap hit next year.

by Goosemonster on Feb 8, 2012 7:26 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah the three mentioned wouldn’t hurt anything being gone, but are probably 3 of the harder contracts to move.

But if Burke can move Blake and ToskaLOL hey, anythings possible right?

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 7:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know, I hope so, but it doesnt look like a good trade market right now. My guess is if we’re lucky we can do it in the off-season.

by Goosemonster on Feb 8, 2012 7:43 AM EST up reply actions  

My only hope is that because the market for C’s is basically 0 if Grabovski re-signs, some one might want Connolly for 1 year… if he can continue to stay “healthy”

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 8:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Connolly has a pretty decent track record though and his role on Toronto might make other GMs think that they can fix him. I wouldn’t be surprised, with almost every team looking for some kind of top six forward, if there were a taker for Connolly.

http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com

by Curt S on Feb 8, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

If we are going to sell them for pennies on the dollar why do it now? They provide depth for this team this year and we can give them away in the offseason when teams have more money to spend.

It makes no sense to give them away now when they can help the playoff drive (well maybe not Komi…)

a 7th now is worth the same as a 7th in the summer so why bother?

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m for getting rid of them ASAP for two reasons

1) Can’t be certain whether it’ll be possible to trade them in the summer.

2) I think there are likely some players from the Marlies that can step up and perform equal to or better than some of the under-performing players

Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt

by Chi-town leafs on Feb 8, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry but I don’t think trading 3 of the like 5 or 6 players on the team who has actually played a playoff game helps. Not to mention giving players like that away mid season could really send the wrong message or mess up the dressing room.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

How would trading 3 players who have missed significant playing time this year mess up the dressing room? Those guys are never in it! Getting rid of those guys lets the remaining players know that management has full confidence in them getting the job done. Overpaid underachievers need to go. Maybe keep Armstrong though just because he has really had a chance to prove his worth yet with all the injuries. Never should have signed Connelly in the first place. Grossly overpaid!

by kanienkeha009 on Feb 8, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Connolly really isn’t grossly over paid. Look at the guy Buffalo chose to replace him. That guy is overpaid. I am not against moving Connolly, but on a two year contract I don’t really see him being such a detriment to this team.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I like having him for when Bozak has especially atrocious defensive nights.

RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter

by Bower Power on Feb 8, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think there is anyone on the Marlies who can play better than Connolly. I think that is vastly overrating our prospects.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

the only way Connolly moves is if Burke needs the cap space for Grabbo+ and cannot move guys like Armstrong or Komi
or if he trades for Jeff Carter and for some reason the Blue Jackets want him as the salary dump going back kinda thing

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

In other words it is very unlikely.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I think teams are looking for depth in the playoffs will be more likely to take on a player now than in the offseason when there isn’t the same urgency and probably more options available due to UFAs.

by Dr_Furious on Feb 8, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Connolly is completely moveable if Burke wants to. I don’t think he will because he just acquired him and has done okay (not very well, but okay). Note I am not saying he could bring a lot of value back, just that he could be moved. He doesn’t have negative value like Komi and Army likely have.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Burke is getting better with UFA signing/resignings.
Maybe he was bit desperate with Komi and Army but the newe deals are manageable

by jeffgm on Feb 8, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

cough versteeg cough
that wasn’t a sneeze, to clarify.

by ddb on Feb 8, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it just me

or is Lombardi looking a hell of a lot better the last 10 games compared to ’fresh off the concussion" Lombardi?

by Dr_Furious on Feb 8, 2012 8:09 AM EST reply actions  

Better

not worth 3.5M

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 8:10 AM EST up reply actions  

No not by any means

by Dr_Furious on Feb 8, 2012 8:17 AM EST up reply actions  

might be a good guy to keep for this short playoffs run, though.

by Goosemonster on Feb 8, 2012 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Trade Lombo

Bring up Frattin <- good speed, physical and be a perfect fit on the third line

Proud Members of:
#TeamRe-signGrabovski
#TeamKuleminIsMyGoat
#TeamTradeSchennNotGunnar

by Gebx on Feb 8, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Frattin has been scoring a lot since his most recent demotion to the Marlies. He seems to have found his touch

http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com

by Curt S on Feb 8, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I think its just playing against weaker competition

by Dr_Furious on Feb 8, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, he didn’t exactly light it up in his first few AHL games but now he has 8 goals in 14 totals games after a slow-ish start

http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com

by Curt S on Feb 8, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t get Frattin > Kadri arguments.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Ummm....

Fewer mistakes defensively.
Better shot, by a mile.
Hits much harder, more frequently into heavy duty areas.
More speed.

Kadri has better stick-handling, better passing, better on-ice creativity.

Which do you want?

I like both, but Kadri’s getting on my nerves somehow. There’s a cocky thing that I was fine with for a couple of years, but which increasingly feels to me like a denial to face that he may not dominate unless he really really plays with some urgency. When his coach says that too, that bugs me.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Frattin does not have more speed than Kadri

I’ve seen quite a few mistakes by both.

Kadri has a deceptively good shot, he just doesn’t use it enough at the NHL level.

Kadri isn’t shying away from contact anymore. He consistently is going into the corners now.

I much prefer the upside Kadri can bring. Especially if Wilson ever gets around to using Kadri at his best, aka the PP.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

As of right now, the Leafs need size and grit..

Maybe that will change next year and Kadri would be a better fit to their needs.

Proud Members of:
#TeamRe-signGrabovski
#TeamKuleminIsMyGoat
#TeamTradeSchennNotGunnar

by Gebx on Feb 8, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I disagree size and grit isn’t needed on that 3rd line. Where we need size is in our top 6 but that will only come via trade and is very unlikely.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Frattin is 12 lbs heavier than Kadri and the same height. Both are 6’0" and Frattin is 200 lbs to Kadri’s 188 (according to hockey reference).

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

everyone seems to think Kadri is 5’8 or something

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I find it amusing.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

frattin just doesnt have the hands kadri does so that makes him more “physical”

by l3ojangles on Feb 8, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Not convinced Frattin isn’t the superior goal-scorer. which takes “hands” as well.

AHL so far… Frattin has 9 in 15, Kadri 8 in 25.

I’m still convinced a bit of bad puck luck is the only reason Frattin isn’t still up, and our own most obvious top rookie.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it has more to do with waivers. Frattin doesn’t have to clear them, and neither does Kadri. Everyone else (I think) does.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull

by Draglikepull on Feb 8, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you realize Frattin has 10 pts in 37 GP. Gardiner (on D) has 17 pts in 47 GP. There is no comparison in who our top rookie is.

As well I don’t care how bad Frattin’s luck is. He is a 23 year old who was on pace for a roughly 23 point season. I am not particularly impressed. I have seen his fundamentals and realize his skill, but I don’t think we should be holding our breath that he is ever more than a 15 goal, 40 point third liner (and we should be damn happy if he becomes that).

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Somebody else said this same “15 goal, 3rd liner” thing.

I’m afraid I just don’t see it. At all.

Whatev. We’ll see, eh?

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup. I hope I am wrong.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

He is definitely not faster and this year he hasn’t hit that much more than Kadri (if you trust NHL.com stats that is).

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t either.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Played 37 games on the 2nd and 3rd lines. Got all of 10 points. Yeah we need to get him back here ASAP.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Lombardi has played 36 games and has 12 points..

Frattin is also more physical than Lombardi or Kadri.

And finally Frattin would have more “Truculence” to the leafs

Proud Members of:
#TeamRe-signGrabovski
#TeamKuleminIsMyGoat
#TeamTradeSchennNotGunnar

by Gebx on Feb 8, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

“would add* more”

Proud Members of:
#TeamRe-signGrabovski
#TeamKuleminIsMyGoat
#TeamTradeSchennNotGunnar

by Gebx on Feb 8, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Lombardi is more defensively responsible than either of them

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Lombardi also plays on the PK

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

BUT MATT FRATTIN WILL SMASH FACE!!!!

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

hehe, and part of me just wants to see him wreck more people on the ice!!

Proud Members of:
#TeamRe-signGrabovski
#TeamKuleminIsMyGoat
#TeamTradeSchennNotGunnar

by Gebx on Feb 8, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I like Frattin, but he didn’t really hit anyone, he just didn’t let people hit him

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree he stood people up but rarely initiated the big contact…

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Lombardi also plays on perfect in 2012 the PK

http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com

by Curt S on Feb 8, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Lombardi is more defensively responsible than either of them

On the surface that seems like bullshit since Lombardi has a team worst +/- of -6…

So y view isn’t changing unless you can pull some advance stats explaining why he’s better defensively.

Proud Members of:
#TeamRe-signGrabovski
#TeamKuleminIsMyGoat
#TeamTradeSchennNotGunnar

by Gebx on Feb 8, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Gardiner and Schenn have a team best +9 so I’m thinking you busting out the +/- stats is pretty shite

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not surprised by Gardiner’s +/-

He’s been on the ice for 43 goals with a 21 minute TOI avg.. That’ s 10 goals less than Gunnarson who has an extra minute per game.

This is not a bash on Gunnarson since he faces tougher opponents, but just showing that Gardiner can keep his own.

but I can’t explain Schenn’s stat… it’s sort of mind boggling.. he’s been on the ice for 52 goals (tied for 3rd), yet has a +9 stat?

Proud Members of:
#TeamRe-signGrabovski
#TeamKuleminIsMyGoat
#TeamTradeSchennNotGunnar

by Gebx on Feb 8, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Gardiner gets soft Qual Comp and great zone starts too. Say what you will about Ron Wilson, but he’s used Gardiner very effectively

http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com

by Curt S on Feb 8, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

its almost as if the +/- is a flawed stat

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

The Leafs don’t need to bury Frattin on the depth chart just for a marginal upgrade on Lombardi.

Keep him on the Marlies in a top six role for their playoff run. That goes for Colborne and Kadri, too.

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m kinda feeling this. Get all 3 playing with some desperation to make the big club, see if they can set the AHL on fire. Then…. when injuries happen, we get them hitting the ice with peak energy and confidence.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I would love those 3 to be on a line in the AHL but right now they aren’t I believe :(

I want those 3 to light the AHL up together then move up as a group next year to be a shelter scoring line like who Getzlaf and Perry moved up in Anahiem.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Kadri Frattin and Mueller I believe are a line

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

They have been lately, yes.

http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com

by Curt S on Feb 8, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

+/- is a terrible stat.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Lombardi is a much better player than Frattin. He is a lot better defensively and is useful on the PK.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

We may want him up now, but overall, he’s way more fragile, and Frattin will outscore him pretty dramatically.

I’m also not so convinced Frattin is a poor defensive player. He didn’t look that way to me – especially for a rookie. You can say +/- is a crap stat, but the fact is, while Frattin was on the ice, the Leafs only gave up 14 goals against, in total. That’s not “getting shot up.” Lombardi’s at 27, in the same number of minutes on the ice. And yes, I know I know, Lombardi gets defensive roles. I’m just saying, let’s not dismiss Frattin’s ability to p-lay responsibly.

I’d say it’s just a question of whether he starts this year or next. and when you can score in the AHL at a rate of 9 goals in 15 games… that’s a 50 goal pace. He can put the puck in the net.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I would bet that at the end of their careers Lombardi has more points than Frattin.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Worth it for being NotLebad

Flugenweb, space code, twit zone, ass mode, check ze tweets.

by Shield on Feb 8, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I love the new play on his name:

Lebad = “The bad”

Maverlous!

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually can’t believe we never used that before.

Not followin' @JPNikota on Twitter? Oh, you better believe that's a paddlin'.

by JP Nikota on Feb 8, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

seems pretty obvious when you think about it

Fuck Kerry Fraser
"...Where be your gibes now, Glenn Healy?"

by SlickWill on Feb 8, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s definitely looking better (relative to how he looked early on). But it seems like his feet are too quick for his hands. It looks like he’s having trouble finishing on partial/full breakaways.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

It looks like he’s having trouble finishing on partial/full breakaways.

He wouldnt have the partial breakaways without the quickness so its kind of a chicken and egg argument

by Dr_Furious on Feb 8, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep. And I’d rather have him get 10 chances because of his speed and miss 90% of them then be slower and get none of those chances.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m still confused about whether we could move Komi to the Marlies, or is there something about his contract/age that prohibits this? I’ll be seriously pissed if we take a pass on Grabbo (especially with 24/7 next year) in order to retain overpriced 3rd liners and press box sitters.

Offizielles Mitglied des MĂĽller / Holzer Fan-Clubs. Ich fordere mehr Deutsche in diesem Team ....... tweet me @Alex_Scotian

by Alspicer on Feb 8, 2012 8:11 AM EST reply actions  

Komi has a Limited NMC/NTC, player supplies a trading list that can be modified each June 15

So i don’t believe he can be sent down

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 8:17 AM EST up reply actions  

My hope is Leafs trade Komi for a similarly bad contract without a NMC and newbie gets sent down.

by Dr_Furious on Feb 8, 2012 8:18 AM EST up reply actions  

We should all brace ourselves for the very real possibility that Komisarek is going to finish his contract off with Toronto.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 8:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I believe it. How the heck did we go from being a cap consious team to potentially not having the dough to resign our players. We need to trade 1 or both of Lombo and Connolly without taking back a ton of salary.

Offizielles Mitglied des MĂĽller / Holzer Fan-Clubs. Ich fordere mehr Deutsche in diesem Team ....... tweet me @Alex_Scotian

by Alspicer on Feb 8, 2012 8:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Komi’s Salary this year and next – $3.5 mill
Komi’s Cap hit this year and next – $4.5 mill

So Burke may be able to send him to a team trying to reach the cap floor but save on Salary

Proud Members of:
#TeamRe-signGrabovski
#TeamKuleminIsMyGoat
#TeamTradeSchennNotGunnar

by Gebx on Feb 8, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

But then again is Komi’s play worth 3.5.

by jeffgm on Feb 8, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

For cap floor teams the real question is, “Is Komi’s play worth saving a million dollars?”

http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com

by Curt S on Feb 8, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Ya, Leafs fans say this… seems like a pipe dream to me… unless we’re taking back a bad salary that has higher salary than cap hit (i.e. Blake for Giguere)

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Habs fans are certain that cap floor teams are just lining up for that sweet gomez contract. lol! That is a pipe dream.

by jeffgm on Feb 8, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Ya everyone wants to lose their shitty overpaid players and keep their good cheap ones.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

being in Chicago and listening to all the “we need defense” and the ton o’ cap space they have I continue to hold out hope that Burke can unload Komi for a 19th round draft pick just to be gone with that contract.

I know he doesn’t offer too much in terms of D but he’s actually is better than 1 or 2 of the piles the hawks are currently employing

by WorldSeriesTiger on Feb 8, 2012 8:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey John Scott is amazing okay!

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

If there’s a buyout amnesty this summer I think Komi gets bought out. Otherwise you’re likely right.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull

by Draglikepull on Feb 8, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Never get rid of Grabbo.

by Ben Schnell on Feb 8, 2012 8:34 AM EST reply actions  

No way should this team lose a player like Grabovski in order retain a player like Komisarek or Armstrong.

Its not a matter of losing him because they are retaining those players, its a matter of losing him because they couldn’t move the contracts.

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 8:41 AM EST reply actions  

i am confident if Burke reaaaaaally wants to keep grabbo, he will move the salary

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

So does us beating Philly depend on which version of Philly goaltenders shows up, or do you guys think we can win even if they actually play good. I’m still having Jagr breakaway nightmares.

Offizielles Mitglied des MĂĽller / Holzer Fan-Clubs. Ich fordere mehr Deutsche in diesem Team ....... tweet me @Alex_Scotian

by Alspicer on Feb 8, 2012 8:47 AM EST reply actions  

RE: Worst Profile Picture

Ackk! I mean, I’m willing to give someone a pass on the whole acne thing because it can be embarassing, but what is up with his mouth and that thing on his face?

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 8:47 AM EST reply actions  

When I saw “worst profile picture”, I was expecting maybe an embarrassing haircut or weird expression on his face. I wasn’t expecting something that looked like an autopsy photo.

by Peter Lynn on Feb 8, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL on the Nabokov Dig on "12 Big Names..."
Evgeni Nabokov, New York Islanders – There are always plenty of teams out there looking to acquire an elite starting goaltender, so you have to figure that somebody will end up having to settle for Nabokov instead.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 8:52 AM EST reply actions  

Jokes on me, I’ll already be there. Wait…. :(

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

This might make Christmas and New Years with the in-laws in Grosse Pointe bearable…

Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt

by Chi-town leafs on Feb 8, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Parents going to florida, they should drive so they can drop me off in michigan with my hockey bag, 4 24’s, a flask of rum and a Leafs Jersey, I’ll figure the rest out later.

Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10

Follow Me On Twitter!

by thenumber14 on Feb 8, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

they can drop me off in michigan with my hockey bag

Are you expecting to get called in to play in the Winter Classic when there is an injury and they need an emergency goalie/player?

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

No but there was talk about a PPP shinny meet up

Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10

Follow Me On Twitter!

by thenumber14 on Feb 8, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Don’t forget the Leafer/birky barnfight.

We’re gonna PPV that shit.

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

we should do a 24/7 on that

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I wont be going

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

BAWK! BAWK BAWK BAWK!

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Dont have the money to go, oh well.

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

he’s saying that, i bet PPP intervened and made them call it off.

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

What’s it cost to drive 6 hours to Detroit and split a hotel room?

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

getting married this summer, I wont have much of a disposable income.

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

put it on your registry

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I put Leafs tickets on it for mine.

make it the theme,
1 – Hotel Room in Ann Arbour
2 – Via Tickets to Windsor
1 – Car Rental
2 – Tickets to Leafs/Red Wings Alumni game
2 – Tickets to Leaf/Red Wings Outdoor game

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Is it seriously going to be $400 per ticket?

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

didnt someone say they got tix to the buffalo game for 30$

by l3ojangles on Feb 8, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I did, but it was the first one so i don’t think they knew what to expect.

There also wasn’t the 2 per order rule either.

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

$400 a ticket in a 100,000 seat arena? No freaking way.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I say worst of the worst don’t go over $30-40

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Ya that’s just the rumoured figure that stood out to me yesterday, I have no idea.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

maybe 400 dollar average, but there is no way nose bleeds go for more then 100 bucks

by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Figures talked about on Detroit Sports radio put the tickets between $400 and $1200. Take that with a grain of salt, as I have no idea where they got that figure from.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

fucccck that, 110,000 people are going to be there, and if the cheapest ticket is 400$ face value, then the Detroit government is using this to solely pull them out of the shit hole they are in

by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe this event is actually so the NHL can pay for the entire Coyotes season in one game… 70 mil in gate wooo!

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Ya that’s just the rumoured figure that stood out to me yesterday, I have no idea.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

That number came from the local sports talk radio station here in Detroit.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Also

That’s the price on the secondary market. Just get all of your relatives to enter the lottery like everyone else here is going to do and get tickets that way. I’ll teach my grandmother how to use a computer if I have to.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ll teach your grandmother to suck eggs!

by Nigel Cadbury on Feb 8, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Ren & Stimpy’d

"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."

by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 8, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

which was taken from “The Hobbit”.

by Nigel Cadbury on Feb 8, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Which was taken from earlier sources, such as Fielding’s Tom Jones (1749).

by Peter Lynn on Feb 9, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Our shinny game will have a three drink minimum.

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Feb 8, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I won’t even be able to skate after 3 drinks.

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Thats a regular friday night shinny game for me

Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10

Follow Me On Twitter!

by thenumber14 on Feb 8, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

WC talk gets me all excited

WOOOOO!

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

The only thing bearable about GP is my parents beer fridge. Getting to see my dog is pretty nice, too

by m3smth on Feb 8, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Jokes on me, I’m already here.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m come to the realization that living in Detroit is like living in a zombie apocalypse.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Living in Detroit proper is. Boy, even though I work in Detroit and spend considerable time here, some sites never cease to amaze/sadden me.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m probably out. My one attempt to show up will be if I can fly to Chicago and ditch the wife there.

Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.

by Chemmy on Feb 8, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I would personally drive from Toledo to Chicago to pick you up and take you to AA.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

That might have to be the plan.

Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.

by Chemmy on Feb 8, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Going back on the wagon?

by GettinGiggy on Feb 9, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

O’hare is a pain in the ass….people get lost all the time

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

My wife’s family is in Chicago. I fly into Midway.

Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.

by Chemmy on Feb 8, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

oh well….it’s windy there, book a flight to o’hare and tell her the wind blew the plan to a different airport

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Chicago is called the windy city because of its blustering politicians.

Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.

by Chemmy on Feb 8, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

rec’d

www.twitter.com/CameronSorley

by CameronSorley on Feb 8, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

You flyboys crack me up!

TWEET AT ME BRO
DAAAAA BLOG
Leaf fan for life! (No, really. They gave me a no-trade clause when I was born.)

by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 8, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I keep telling you I’m not a pilot!

So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil

by Learn2Leaf on Feb 8, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

and I keep telling you you flyboys crack me up!

Fuck Kerry Fraser
"...Where be your gibes now, Glenn Healy?"

by SlickWill on Feb 8, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I never understood this. There’s pretty much one road that takes you out of the airport.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve only been there on a layover, I think the thing was about the layout of the terminals

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely big but as with any airport I go to, I just keep a suave look on my face and pretend like I know exactly where I’m going while faking that I’m tending to business on my blackberry. I eventually get to where I want to go. If I get lost and end up say, in a janitors closet when I was looking for a shuttle to the rental car lot, I blame it on having been too distracted by business emails and calls on the BB.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely big but as with any airport I go to, I just keep a suave look on my face and pretend like I know exactly where I’m going while faking that I’m tending to business on my blackberry. I eventually get to where I want to go. If I get lost and end up say, in a janitors closet when I was looking for a shuttle to the rental car lot, I blame it on having been too distracted by business emails and calls on the BB.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely big but as with any airport I go to, I just keep a suave look on my face and pretend like I know exactly where I’m going while faking that I’m tending to business on my blackberry. I eventually get to where I want to go. If I get lost and end up say, in a janitors closet when I was looking for a shuttle to the rental car lot, I blame it on having been too distracted by business emails and calls on the BB.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

something is still going funny

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely big but as with any airport I go to, I just keep a suave look on my face and pretend like I know exactly where I’m going while faking that I’m tending to business on my blackberry. I eventually get to where I want to go. If I get lost and end up say, in a janitors closet when I was looking for a shuttle to the rental car lot, I blame it on having been too distracted by business emails and calls on the BB.

TWEET AT ME BRO
DAAAAA BLOG
Leaf fan for life! (No, really. They gave me a no-trade clause when I was born.)

by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 8, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Aahhh! it’s happening! I had a nightmare last night where all of my post on PPP began repeating uncontrollably under other users sn!

Save us, Aquaman!

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Marlies playing today at 11am?

by Dr_Furious on Feb 8, 2012 9:43 AM EST reply actions  

It’s TDSB day so lots of field trips to a hockey game

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

what? I never got a “TDSB” day in school.

by Goosemonster on Feb 8, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Seems to be popular now to have a mid day game for field trips. the Majors did it too this year.

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Rangers do it once a year too I believe… The kids love it

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

especially when a brawl breaks out, the more whiny parents not so much

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

TDSB?

Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.

by Chemmy on Feb 8, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Toronto District School Board

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I was in the TDSB until 2005, is this TDSB day a new thing?

RE-SIGN GRABBO

by Chris Stoikoff on Feb 8, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Last I remember it was the T.B.E

If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach

by Ghostsof on Feb 8, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I want TBD! Is that new?

Fuck Kerry Fraser
"...Where be your gibes now, Glenn Healy?"

by SlickWill on Feb 8, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Why would you trade Connolly at the deadline for peanuts?

Not many teams will take on that contract right now.
Keeping Connolly doesn’t impact the Leafs’ ability to re-sign Grabovski for next season.
Having Connolly for the stretch and playoffs gives us 3 good centres down the middle.

Keep Connolly in the middle, re-sign Grabbo, move Connolly in the offseason.

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 9:43 AM EST reply actions  

move Connolly in the offseason.

I think that’d be more difficult than moving him at the deadline. Teams have injuries right now, but in the off-season those players will heal up and take their spots back.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

that’s my theory. He doesn’t add much to the team, though he can go on the PK.

by Goosemonster on Feb 8, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

We’re really hitting the point where we just have to trust that Burke knows best for how to manage this Grabovski / cap situation.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

When has that ever stopped rampant speculation?

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Teams have budget issues and can’t add a player at a pro-rated 4.7M.
Teams have cap issues and can’t add a player at a pro-rated 4.7M.
Trading Connolly creates a hole at centre on the Leafs.
Teams with a need for a centre like Connolly are at the bottom of the standings and won’t be taking on a player like him at the deadline.

I think the number of available trading partners becomes much higher in the offseason when teams have the ability to make more decisions about their roster. I still don’t know if Connolly fetches much more than now, but I think the number of teams that can potentially acquire him is a lot higher.

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Trading Connolly creates a hole at centre on the Leafs.

Lombardi back to C? This one i’m not that worried about, I think we’ve got a few guys who could if needed fill the 3c.

Not OPTIMAL 3Cs of course.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

If those players are untradeable making resigning Grabbo difficult, is it unthinkable for Burke to waive Lombardi or another player?

by jeffgm on Feb 8, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

is it unthinkable for Burke to waive Lombardi or another player

I think he’d waive a 4th liner but hopes of burying Armstrong/Lombardi are a bit far fetched IMO.

He’d probably try every other avenue first. I imagine he did the same for Orr. Likely begged other GMs to take him.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep, but if needed he WOULD bury one of them. That being said do you honestly think 29 other teams would pass on all 3 of Army, Lombo and Connolly. At least one team will bite I think. They are all UFA’s after next season after all.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it is unthinkable that he gets waived just because of his recovery. It just seems to go against everything that is Burke.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Burke sent Finger to the minors because he was awful. Lombardi may be overpaid for the role he’s playing right now, but his speed is useful on offence and he’s been an effective penalty killer. You don’t send guys who play their role well to the AHL just because you don’t like their contract.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull

by Draglikepull on Feb 8, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Burke doesn’t. Orr took him a long time and Lebda he traded for expensive Lombardi and Franson. Other GMs are less considerate Souray, Redden..

by jeffgm on Feb 8, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Souray was giving the team shit too so they probably didn’t mind being a dick. Redden’s and Lombardi’s contracts are miles apart.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

But why weaken our team now for this years run?

We have 4 players who are expensive and expendable. 3 of them are UFA’s after next year. I think we can find a taker in the offseason for at least one. Oh and did I mention those 3 also don’t have NMC so worst case scenario we have to bury someone.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

There is the 10% roster cushion in the summer. You can still resign Grabbo and figure it out then.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not completely sure on these rules

but it is possible that if the contract is in the ballpark of the $5M x 5 being thrown around… that “tagging room” could be an issue?

i.e. can’t commit more than the current cap in contracts for next season… this issue came up when Toews/Kane were being re-signed during the cap hell offseason of the blackhawks

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Leafs have $51M committed to next season. They’re fine.

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

we’ll need to re-sign Grabbo at around 5M.

by Goosemonster on Feb 8, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Any word on the cap increasing for next year? would that give the Leafs another 1-2 mill to play with?

Proud Members of:
#TeamRe-signGrabovski
#TeamKuleminIsMyGoat
#TeamTradeSchennNotGunnar

by Gebx on Feb 8, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

The tagging room rules let you go 10% above the cap.

I’m not seeing the problem here.

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

After re-signing Grabbo we have ~8M leftover for the summer. Not a lot to work with. Oh plus Kulie gets re-signed, and while it will be low it will still be 2-3M.

by Goosemonster on Feb 8, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

leaving us 5M to do anything else with. Not much.

by Goosemonster on Feb 8, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Grabovski, Franson, Kulemin, Gustavsson

by ShahofToronto on Feb 8, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh boy I can’t wait for the “Should we re-sign Gustavsson” debate.

I hope it gets pushed to the offseason, after the HOW FAR ARE WE GOING TO GO IN THE PLAYOFFS debate

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I can’t say I’d have much problem with it right now. He still gives up cheap goals too regularly, but he’s 16-11-1 with a .909 SV%. That’s fine for a backup.

by mluk on Feb 8, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Three years $850k.

Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.

by Chemmy on Feb 8, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

1 year 1.2

Small commitment and he gets a chance to prove to us that this year is the real Gus not the last 2.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Franson and a backup goalie

http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com

by Curt S on Feb 8, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the equally important consideration is making space for the kids. You need to start getting them into the NHL lineup eventually.

http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com

by Curt S on Feb 8, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

we have to find some way to offload one of our bad contracts, me thinks.

by Goosemonster on Feb 8, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

dammit Montreal, hurry up and hire JFJ already!

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, cuz the buffoons that are already there don’t take on bad contracts… wait…

http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com

by Curt S on Feb 8, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

YOu can go 10% above the salary cap during the offseason. Burke has until September to figure out how to get the Leafs under the cap.

This is not a Chicago situation where there is literally no money available to re-sign anybody.

WAYFO?

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Ya it was just a thought I hadn’t even looked closely at the numbers.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

What if we were to just send Armstrong to the Marlies and move Lombardi for nothing / send him to the AHL.

Boom, cap space.

Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.

by Chemmy on Feb 8, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Woo we broke SBN!

OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.

by Ubiquitous on Feb 8, 2012 11:55 AM EST reply actions  

WOOOOO

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Feb 8, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sure it was that Prospal extension that blew up the internets

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

mind-boggling

Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.

by birky on Feb 8, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

It is somewhat hard to imagine Scott Howson is still being allowed to make those kinds of decisions.

The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts.

by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 8, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Dear fans,

Yes we traded away Rick Nash and Jeff Carter, but fear not. We re-signed Vinny Prospal for next season. You can all proceed with your Prospal 22 jerseys.

Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.

by birky on Feb 8, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

And with a NTC so you can wear that jersey proud for at least a year

by jeffgm on Feb 8, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Employers all over probably saw record setting amounts of work done with SBN down

If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach

by Ghostsof on Feb 8, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Soo....

we’re back?

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 11:55 AM EST reply actions  

back again

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Feb 8, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

PPPs back

Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.

by BlindSight on Feb 8, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

tell a friend

Useless comments since 2009.

by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 8, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Olllllllllllllddd maannnnnnnnnnnn rivveeeeerrrr
#amidoingitright?

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Feb 8, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone ever see that community episode where Brita’s hippie boyfriend “micro-nipples” refers to Pierce (Chevy Chase) as “old-man winter”??? Geesh, my sides were splitting that whole episode. Really astonishing to see how terribly Chevy aged.

/imisscommunity

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry, that should be “old-man river” not “old man winter”.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

A)Hey Hi Hello
B) name was Vaughn
C) was it the one Britta was with Vaughn or the one where Pierce joined Vaughn band

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it was actually the one where Annie starts dating Vaughn because he makes the remark about Pierce and you know there’s already some history there (from the episode before where Pierce joins the band).

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll go back and rewatch it tonight

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

now THAT is how you take a family picture

Fuck Kerry Fraser
"...Where be your gibes now, Glenn Healy?"

by SlickWill on Feb 8, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Can’t. Stop. Laughing.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

ish for sure

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 11:58 AM EST reply actions  

When PPP goes down, hundreds of people stop pretending like their working.

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Feb 8, 2012 12:05 PM EST reply actions  

Productivity +100000%

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Shit I missed a chance to use the 8000% meme there

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m 8000% pissed off at you.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

The kid never had more than 7 points in the OHL

That has to be the greatest pick ever made.

"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr

Sorry, unauthorized hotlinking of copyrighted material not permitted.

by Frag on Feb 8, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry

Should be 77.

I got that 8000% wrong.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t disagree, but I also think NHL awards care as much or more for the storylines than they do for the most deserving player. Malhotra didn’t win Selke, and I doubt people both with ES splits or compensate for PP time.

RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter

by Bower Power on Feb 8, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

as much or more for the storylines

Aren’t most of them voted by Hockey Writers?

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Gardiner will have to get above the 30 point plateau to get consideration and probably a Leafs playoff birth.

by Dr_Furious on Feb 8, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Leafs should make the play-offs…. and he should get North of 25 points.

I just think we need to start talking about this kid more.

Writers will listen. It’ll catch fire as they begin to think about it.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

If we’re going to start campaigns…

GRABBO FOR EVERYTHING!

Paedophiles are using an area of internet the size of Ireland.

by article1 on Feb 8, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

if Tyler Myers can win the Vezina I don’t see why Grabbo can’t win the Calder

Fuck Kerry Fraser
"...Where be your gibes now, Glenn Healy?"

by SlickWill on Feb 8, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Try as I might I can’t find a hole in that logic.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s science. You can’t argue with science.

Fuck Kerry Fraser
"...Where be your gibes now, Glenn Healy?"

by SlickWill on Feb 8, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Before I even got through scrolling to the bottom of your post, I knew who it was written by.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

and we know who it wasn’t written by as well

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

FLYRe RBOB?

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Norm Ullman

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Norm Ullman

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Norman Ullman

"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr

Sorry, unauthorized hotlinking of copyrighted material not permitted.

by Frag on Feb 8, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Who was #3 in all-time NHL scorers when he left for the WHA. Ahead of the Richards and Hulls and Mahovolichs and the whole damned lot.

#3. And over 400 of those points with the Leafs.

And nobody even knows him today.

Norm. Goddamn. Ullman. ;-)

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

And he only cost us the Big M in his prime.

Playoffs. Please God Playoffs!

by Saanich West on Feb 8, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

The Big M was leaving town one way or another. The mix of players coming and going had very little to do with it.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Norm Ullman

Paedophiles are using an area of internet the size of Ireland.

by article1 on Feb 8, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Christopher Columbus

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Phil Kessel

"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr

Sorry, unauthorized hotlinking of copyrighted material not permitted.

by Frag on Feb 8, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Emilio Estevez

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Good kid. Late round pick by Detroit.

Maaaaan, they got good scouts. I woulda gone with Charlie.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Gimme Adam Banks. If he wouldn’t have messed up his wrist, he would have been something special!

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

well what the hell was he doing putting his arm across the net like that? kid was setting himself up for trouble

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Robert Phaulson

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

1. Take RNH. Great kid. Still only has 35 points. Playing with some talented wingers, so that helps. But let’s tell the truth on two things. 1st off, the kid only has 17 Even Strength points. That’s it. So 18 of his points are PP. Plus… he’s injured. Again. So. Do 17 ES points a Calder winner make? Nope. But Edmonton is hyping him, for their own reasons. And I think sometimes in Toronto e buy the hype out of other towns, while cutting our own kid short. Let’s look at a few more candidates.

But according to some dumbass from Sportsnet on Twitter, RNH is on a Hall of Fame track, unlike any Toronto player. So, advantage: RNH.

by Peter Lynn on Feb 8, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

haha that was great, you and PPP should go bash him some more.

by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

The one other thing I wanted to point out before he let the subject die was that, according to his PPG as an 18-year-old, RNH tracks to be better than Hall-of-Famers Brian Bellows and Bobby Carpenter, but not quite as good as Hall-of-Famers Jimmy Carson and Dan Quinn.

by Peter Lynn on Feb 8, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

The next Dan Quinn.

I like it.

That’s the tag.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

haha i don’t even know who those players are! (i think that’s your point) But why the fuck is a real sports journalist bringing up something SO subjective? I know, I know they are all dumb, but why are they all dumb? Every single one of us, including the ones that don’t blog, could do a better job then 95% of these numskulls

by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

After reading that, I have to say this

I think 9 games is too small of a sample size to determine if he’s turning the corner or not. Is it encouraging? Hell yeah, it is! I agree with you that there aren’t any obvious frontrunners for the Calder aside from RNH (who has been battling injuries).

Now, one thing that would decrease Gardiner’s Calder chances significantly – The narrative. Right now, he isn’t part of the Calder Trophy narrative. The four names I keep hearing are RNH, Henrique, Read, and Landeskog. Until Gardiner is included in that mix, he stands a slim chance of even being in the top 3.

"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr

Sorry, unauthorized hotlinking of copyrighted material not permitted.

by Frag on Feb 8, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we’re developing that narrative, right here, right now. [Cue: Jesus Jones.]

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

RIGHT … Here and Now [Cue: Delicious Clear Pepsi for all]

"These balloons aren't going to stay filled till New Year's!"
"Those aren't for New Year's... those are my everyday balloons."

by Isosceles Kramer on Feb 8, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Holiday Spice Pepsi > Crystal Pepsi

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that a thing? What is it, like mulled cider pepsi?

"These balloons aren't going to stay filled till New Year's!"
"Those aren't for New Year's... those are my everyday balloons."

by Isosceles Kramer on Feb 8, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

it was a “limited edition” a few years back. wasn’t bad, tasted like cinnamon hearts, but not an everyday drink.

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

That smells like late 80s or early 90s to me

"These balloons aren't going to stay filled till New Year's!"
"Those aren't for New Year's... those are my everyday balloons."

by Isosceles Kramer on Feb 8, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

2005, 2006 I think

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I remember drinking it. It was okay, I guess.

"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr

Sorry, unauthorized hotlinking of copyrighted material not permitted.

by Frag on Feb 8, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Shit was the crystal meth of its time.

Got so hooked, had to sell my trailer.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I meant the Holiday Spice Pepsi, not Crystal Pepsi

"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr

Sorry, unauthorized hotlinking of copyrighted material not permitted.

by Frag on Feb 8, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

How many Calder winners get scratched multiple times in their Calder winning season?

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Well look at the players who he had to battle for ice time with…. oh. Komisarek.

Nevermind, cancel Gardiner-for-Calder.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I mention “Leaf Fans, Irrationally Dumping On Leaf Players” – and so soon after, a quality contribution!

For starters, he’s 21. More importantly, he weighs 173 pounds. Repeat that to yourself, quietly. 173 pounds. And he’s never played more than 51 games before – in any season. And as a defenceman, he takes a bit of wear and tear. They play longer minutes, and usually, with more hitting and critically – being hit – as part of their game.

Disqualify him because of that? Maybe give it to Landeskog? He who gets fewer ES points per minute than Frattin? Or how about the hard-slogging RNH? Who gets all his points on the PP? Oh yeah. He’s injured. Cause he’s a little guy.

That weighs… 175.

Jesus.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I wasn’t trying to argue that he shouldn’t get it but was trying to point out why he won’t get it.

You made strong arguments, I just don’t think he has a chance.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess I just figure Leaf fans should be pumping up the volume for him a bit. Then maybe a Mirtle or someone asks Ron Wilson what he thinks of Jake… or some Leaf players…. gets a bit of coverage….

Then… who knows? Maybe it takes off!

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

The ones with stupid coaches.

Either you have an enviable memory, or a pitiable life, to know nothing of regret.
- Sten, of the Qunari

by GreatKingRat on Feb 8, 2012 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I could get behind this idea.

leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.

by stucky on Feb 8, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

This would make an amazing fanpost. What a comment!

Pension Plan Puppets: A Toronto Maple Leafs blog and a group therapy session.
Like reading thoughts confined to 140 characters? I'm on Twitter too.

by PPP on Feb 8, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm back from the future

Greg Scott! That was a fine move by Kessel to score his 100th goal of the season.

"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr

Sorry, unauthorized hotlinking of copyrighted material not permitted.

by Frag on Feb 8, 2012 12:16 PM EST reply actions  

Toronto Maple Leafs Fan Cheering Guide - February 8th

We aren’t catching Boston and Buffalo aren’t catching us. Cheer on the meteor.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 12:29 PM EST reply actions  

Fuck Boston.

Useless comments since 2009.

by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 8, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I prefer to cheer for Ebola.

Paedophiles are using an area of internet the size of Ireland.

by article1 on Feb 8, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Charbola.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Lucibola.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Thibola.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Marchabola.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICOLA

Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.

by Chemmy on Feb 8, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

RC Cola

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

oooooo fancy are we?
We can’t even pay our bills, and they’re drinking Royal Crown Cola

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn meteors, so unreliable. They never show up when you need them!

leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.

by stucky on Feb 8, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Just realized today

that there’s 8 game stretch, 6 road games in March from 6th to 19th vs tough Eastern Conference teams that will define this season. Really tough stretch for the team.

March 6th- Boston Bruins
7th- @ Pittsburgh Penguins
10th- Philadelphia Flyers
11th- @ Washington Capitals
13th- @ Florida Panthers
15th- @ Tampa Bay Lightning
17th- @ Ottawa Senators
19th- @ Boston Bruins

by StrangeD84 on Feb 8, 2012 12:43 PM EST reply actions  

yep we’re fucked

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Need to bank points now ‘cause we’re losing a lot of those fucking games

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

that’s the spirit!

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Leafs can take points from most of those games. With the pace their on now a couple of those losses wont be too devastating.

Crosbovski: In 84 We Trust

by leif20 on Feb 8, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Speak for yourself: Every loss is devastating to me.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty much

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I went to bed before the 3rd.

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

it was late, I have a cold, my shoulder went wonky on me again

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m starting to think that the reason the Leafs lost last night is because you went to sleep. You gotta believe man (if I had access to youtube at work I would link to that one scene from Santa Claus where Santa’s sleigh gets off and running on happy Christmas thoughts)!

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

next time I’ll leave the radio on, trick ‘em into thinking I’m still there

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

haha that is weird man! Did you buy it from Meadowvale town centre 17 years ago?

by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

nah, second hand in Oakville circa 2005 – total doppelgangers though!

by Jo4nny on Feb 8, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if we got them together if the universe would implode.

by Jo4nny on Feb 8, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I think PKA’s cat just goes over to your place, then vice versa. It’s tough double-shifting as a cat.

RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter

by Bower Power on Feb 8, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

If we can’t pick up points against PIT, WSH, FLA, TBL, and OTT we don’t deserve to go to the playoffs. The hard games there are two against Boston and one against Philly.

Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.

by Chemmy on Feb 8, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I would say Pitt as well… especially considering Staal should be back then as well and maybe even he who is always talked about (long shot)

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

rec’d

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

He does make Pitt a tougher team to play against. Its not like I’m saying some 4th line scrub will be back.

I don’t think Staal makes them unbeatable just makes the game not so easy. We took 3 points from them last week but it will be tougher with Staal there.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Is Phil Kessel going to feel bad about skating around an injury prone pylon?

Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.

by Chemmy on Feb 8, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s funny because before this recent injury history, he was the NHL’s next Ironman

by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Before he was injured he was healthy… never saw that one coming

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes… Phil is an empathetic player, he can’t help but feel sorry for some teams/players. Its why he only scored once last night.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I would like Jordan Staal on our team.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I would like Shea Weber on our team

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I think what we want is Team Canada to be the Toronto Maple Leafs.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

hell, I’d take team USA

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

the Stanley cup has no flag

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

But if you flip it over, it says made in China.

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Feb 8, 2012 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Leafs picked up three points in 2 games against PIT last week and it probably should have been all four.

Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.

by Chemmy on Feb 8, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s the second game of a back-to-back

"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr

Sorry, unauthorized hotlinking of copyrighted material not permitted.

by Frag on Feb 8, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

And Pitt should be getting healthier with Staal… one assumed he’ll be back at some point in the next couple weeks

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

That certainly doesn’t help our chances.

"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr

Sorry, unauthorized hotlinking of copyrighted material not permitted.

by Frag on Feb 8, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Leafs won’t show up on the sixth. No problem.

Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.

by Chemmy on Feb 8, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

They’ve taken 5 of 6 pts vs PIT so far

by Dr_Furious on Feb 8, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

We need to win that game on the 11th at the Caps.

‘cause I’m going.

RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter

by Bower Power on Feb 8, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

DEATH MARCH

Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.

by birky on Feb 8, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m going with
L
L
W
W
L
L
W
W

by lucc on Feb 8, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

If Leafs win their next two games, they can then play 50-50 hockey for the rest of the season and still hit 94 points.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

We’ll take it.

Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.

by Chemmy on Feb 8, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I think if we can scrape 8/16 points on that brutal stretch we are golden

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

What do you guys think about trading Gus to a team that needs a goalie

TB, Columbus and Edmonton come to mind. Scrivens and or Juicy Boobs are ready to be a back up at cheaper then Gus

by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

Why would any of those teams who will not make the playoffs this year buy a goalie?

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay, then why wouldn’t they just pick up a goalie on waivers like Burke did with Gerber?

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

its just a thought so we have more cap room for Grabbo! like i said below, I guess it doesn’t matter if he walks on July 1st for nothing

by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Than why bother trading him? he’s a better backup option for a playoff run than Scrivens. We aren’t going to get anything back in a trade worth anything more than he’s worth to us.

Asset management doesn’t just mean not losing someone for nothing it also means not letting go of assets for less value than what they bring to your team.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I know, I realized that he could just walk a few minutes ago.
assetmanagement’d

by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Excuse me, is there an Orange Julius around here?
You can buy this one, it’s almost full!

Well why don’t I drink out of a toilet?

He’ll be back.

Not followin' @JPNikota on Twitter? Oh, you better believe that's a paddlin'.

by JP Nikota on Feb 8, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Gus stays for a bit longer, the goalie situation with reimer and gus is not clear cut. The leafs could have something going on like st louis where there are two #1 goalies.

Crosbovski: In 84 We Trust

by leif20 on Feb 8, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

but Gus isn’t a number 1, Reimer is. The more games Reimer plays the better chance the Leafs have of winning

by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

IT’S REIMER REIMER
GOTTA BE STARTIN REIMER

Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.

by Chemmy on Feb 8, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Reimer is the number 1 in toronto and the future for the leafs, but the monster’s play in January certainly made a case for him to get some more starts. And the fact that he’s still really young gives him even more upside.

Crosbovski: In 84 We Trust

by leif20 on Feb 8, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

27 is really young these days?

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

he's peaked, let the rapid decline begin

by Dr_Furious on Feb 8, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not saying he’s old he’s still got many years left but he called him really young which threw me for a loop. He’s still in his prime, but “really young” players to me are 23 and under.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree. I didnt realize how old gustavsson is. ‘Really young’ applies more to reimer who is 23.

Crosbovski: In 84 We Trust

by leif20 on Feb 8, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

yep agreed. My age brackets go

40+- Diapers
35-40 heres your walker gramps
30-35 old
25-30 prime
23-25 Fairly young
20-23 Really young
18-20 Diapers

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

So when a player is 29 and then one day later turns 30 he goes from “prime” to “old”?

Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.

by Chemmy on Feb 8, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

dont knwo if serious….

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

absolutely yes

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought you knew that on your 30th birthday you are required to break your hip.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

It is a secret of the medical staff in hockey that at 30 we stop giving them “prime steroids” and switch to “old man pick me ups”.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

… relatively young. I thought he was under 25, not 27.
Bottom line is I dont think his skill set is suitable for a backup role in the NHL, but he needs to improve a bit more before he becomes a starter.

Crosbovski: In 84 We Trust

by leif20 on Feb 8, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

IMO Burke won't trade Gustavsson

And before we get to the “BUT WHAT IF HE GETS BLOWN AWAY BY AN OFFER” retort, no one is blowing down doors for Jonas fucking Gustavsson.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t even want anything for him, It’s just that it will cost less to have Scrivens backing up then Gus. I guess I don’t care if he leaves July 1 then. would be nice to get something for him though
/assetmanegement’d

by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

PPPPodcast related

Are you guys planning on making anymore? Or am I in for disappointment?

Useless comments since 2009.

by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 8, 2012 12:48 PM EST reply actions  

Plan to, busy.

Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.

by Chemmy on Feb 8, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Brian Hayes TSN1050

brought up yesterday that you can only win a SC if you have an elite centre like Crosby or Stamkos anchoring your top line. This was the inspiration for my Grabovski #1 centre post. It’s absolutely ridiculous to say you NEED a player like that. only 4 or 5 of them exist and I don’t see those 4-5 teams all tearing apart the playoffs, or the regular season for that matter.

by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 12:52 PM EST reply actions  

Well yeah just look at Tampa’s Cup win with Stamkos.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Guys to be fair last years cup champion did have Krecji anchoring their 1st line and we all know he’s an unbelievable centre

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

and Boston’s with Krecji… I even liked Hayes before that.

by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes perfect just like last year when the Bruins won the Cup with elite center Patrice Bergeron.

Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.

by Chemmy on Feb 8, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

So you need an elite centre OR the best goalie in the game. More elite centres around.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull

by Draglikepull on Feb 8, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Chicago had neither

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Giggy was probably the best goaltender in the world during those playoffs

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Chicago didn’t have an elite centre?

by Goosemonster on Feb 8, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d argue, much like with Anaheim, their defense was the best part of their roster. Two strong blueliners, one solid checking line.

TWEET AT ME BRO
DAAAAA BLOG
Leaf fan for life! (No, really. They gave me a no-trade clause when I was born.)

by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 8, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

a 100 point elite center? no

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

that’s the only definition of elite? how many of those are there like 3?

by Goosemonster on Feb 8, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I am going by the standard set in the article

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

well it’s a stupid standard, I’d say.

by Goosemonster on Feb 8, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

yup, it is, that is what we are making fun of

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

what article? Hayes said you need this “elite” centre to win the cup. I said that’s stupid, I didn’t set a standard as to whats called elite

by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

“like Stamkos or Crosby”
IE a 50ish 100 pointish guy
since that is all Crosby and Stamkos really have in common

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly, I’m talking about Hayes

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

oh okay. I got confused because he just said that on the radio. I just find it dumb that these guys are on the radio and still stay such wrong things

by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

article, radio, whatever
this is totally not my fault for fucking up the medium by being to lazy to press the up button, not at all

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Toews was point per game and like half a goal a game. He was damn good.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Good teams win the Cup.
Good teams have good players.
More often than not, a team’s best player is their #1 center.
I’m not seeing the amazing insight here.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah but he’s saying you need a 100+ point centre man to win. Simply not the case.

by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Cup Winners and their best centreman that year

2011 – Boston – Krejci – 62 pts
2010 – Chicago – Toews – 68pts
2009 – Pittsburgh – Malkin – 113pts
2008 – Detroit – Datsyuk – 97pts
2007 – Anaheim – MacDonald – 78pts
2006 – Carolina – Staal – 100pts
2004 – Tampa Bay – Richards – 79pts
2003 – New Jersey – Gomez – 55pts
2002 – Detroit – Fedorov – 68pts
2001 – Colorado – Sakic – 118pts

Seems like you need one just as often as you don’t need one.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

hey, 55 points in 2003 on new jersey is like 120 points nowadays.

OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.

by Ubiquitous on Feb 8, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly, it obviously helps but a 100 point centre doesn’t a good team make

by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

St. Louis led the league in scoring in 2004 with 94 points.

Maybe that’s why they cancelled the 2005 season.

NO ONE GOT 100 POINTS! FUCK YOU, NO SEASON!

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

In this post I determined that the average point totals of the top 3 forwards on Stanley Cup winners between 2006-07 and 2010-11 were 93/79/63. Leafs actually will probably get near those totals this year with Kessel/Lupul/Grabbo.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull

by Draglikepull on Feb 8, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

so, if I read what you’re saying right….it means STANLEY CUP OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!!!!!!!!

by Goosemonster on Feb 8, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Pft, I wouldn’t forget to capitalise a proper noun like that.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull

by Draglikepull on Feb 8, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

rec for grammar correction rather than hopeless optimism correction

Fuck Kerry Fraser
"...Where be your gibes now, Glenn Healy?"

by SlickWill on Feb 8, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

The Leafs don’t have a problem scoring this season, but I’m also not sold Kessel & Lupul can repeat year after year.

Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.

by birky on Feb 8, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Kessel? sure
Lupul on the other hand….

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

The current stanley cup winners would like a word with him. Or Anaheim for that matter (Andy McDonald was their #1 C).

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

that seems almost as tragic as when Gomez was Jersey’s #1C and they won the Cup for some reason

Fuck Kerry Fraser
"...Where be your gibes now, Glenn Healy?"

by SlickWill on Feb 8, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Andy McDonald was actually a pretty good hockey player in his prime. He was playing with Selanne but he has had (IIRC) 3 or 4 seasons above 0.80 PPG

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

And at least 1 80 point season

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Bobby Mac leaking WC news on Twitter
Winter Classic on Jan. 1, 2013, will be DET-TOR at Univ of Michigan (The Big House) but it’s the only event being held there.
Outdoor rink at Comerica Park in downtown Detroit will be site of a weeklong Hockeytown Fan Fest, so to speak. Events there will include: Two GLI NCAA college games, Marlies vs Griffins AHL game and OHL doubleheader with PLY vs LDN and SAG vs WDR, plus high school/youth games. Marquee event for Comerica on Dec. 31 will be Legends/Alumni game between ex-Leafs and ex-Wings. Then it’s off to Big House on Jan. 1.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

i bet Alumni game tickets go for more than WC tickets since there are less than 1/2 the amount available

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Comerica Park sits about 42,000.

Citizen’s Bank Park sat 47,000. Alumni game prices were around $100.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Leafs alumni is going to be ridiculous. I’d pay $100 to see them.

Just saying.

Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.

by Chemmy on Feb 8, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

rec’d for appropriate priorities.

RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter

by Bower Power on Feb 8, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

DUDE THINK ABOUT THE ALUMNI GAME.

DOUGIE, WENDEL, SUNDIN, SALMING. POTVIN?

YZERMAN, HULL, ETC.

Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.

by Chemmy on Feb 8, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahahaha Skinny just gchat-ed me “Tucker, Domi”

THERE’S GOING TO BE A FIGHT

Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.

by Chemmy on Feb 8, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

CuJo or Belfour to play with Potvin.

Roberts may be in good enough shape to play too.

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

May be? It’s Gary Roberts, he’s probably in good enough shape to slot into Crabbs spot.

"If you've ever questioned whether or not @dboyce47 is a gamer, well, the answer is as plain as the nose that used to be on his face." - Sean Boulton
This is a tweet.

by AM18 on Feb 8, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Burke’s deadline coup?

Fuck Kerry Fraser
"...Where be your gibes now, Glenn Healy?"

by SlickWill on Feb 8, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe? Pray he didn’t hear you say that.

Useless comments since 2009.

by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 8, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Fun fact: That’s how bums in Detroit stay warm.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

there’s money in detroit?

by Goosemonster on Feb 8, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

1) Kill passersby
2) Eat them for sustenance
3) Burn all of their clothing and possessions for warmth

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Makes me sense to burn them first.

That way, get warmth PLUS tasty BBQ goodness.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

and here I am about to spend money on an education like a sucker.

by Goosemonster on Feb 8, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely a better turnout than they had in Hamilton, which was probably made up of people who could drive themselves to the game

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

“Hey Mr. Leeman, we want to know if you want to play in the Hamilton Alumni game this year?”
Leeman turns to wife “Sweeeeeeeet, Honey, I get to fill out a T4 this year!”

If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach

by Ghostsof on Feb 8, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I just re-checked PPP and there were 84 new comments……so I’m pretty sure that is a sign that we have to keep Grabbo

by BEAUCHE22 on Feb 8, 2012 1:02 PM EST reply actions  

I think I just inadvertently un-signed Grabbo

by BEAUCHE22 on Feb 8, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I hadn’t seen this video before and wanted to share it: Phil Kessel attending the birthday party of a 4 year old cancer patient. Fuck the people who think this guy is an asshole because he’s shy and awkward.

http://www.chch.com/index.php/home/item/6866-leaf-kessel-makes-one-birthday-wish-come-true

www.twitter.com/runaroundkid

by runaroundkid on Feb 8, 2012 1:10 PM EST reply actions  

BTW

Marlies playing right now, 3-1 is the score.

Markers by Colborne, Hamilton, Wilson. Scrivens in net.

http://theahl.com/stats/official-game-report.php?game_id=1009345

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

4-2 Frattin just scored PP

by Dr_Furious on Feb 8, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Matt Frattin

Not gonna be kept on the farm.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

4-3 final, woo Marlies

Both Toronto hockey teams in the playoffs? I like.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Marlies have a shot of winning the Calder this year, they are, dare I say it, “scary good”

by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

championships for everyone!

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Also

Deschamps is looking like a pretty solid pickup for the Marlies.

Picked up 2 assists in the game today, now 11 points in 14 games with the Marlies. Good stuff.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Caputi has looked good on Syracuse too. I think both just needed a change

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I blame Frank D’Angelo.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Caputi Cheetah’d too much

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah I @’d chansler a few days ago about him, he said he really liked him. Looking like a change of scenery did him well.

by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Saw a tweet earlier and made me think

So a bunch of Marlies are RFA;s:

Rynnas
Frattin
Gysbers
Mueller
Mitchell
Aulie
Holzer
Lashoff
Scrivens
Mikus
Greenop
How many do you see the leafs walking away from?

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 1:14 PM EST reply actions  

also

Ziggy, Hamilton, DUpuis and FInger are all UFA’s

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Finger, Dupuis, Mitchell, and Greenop are all gone 100% imo.

Gysbers Lashoff and Mikus are iffy but probably back

Ziggy and Hamilton I think will be offered contracts but will be up to the player if they want to stay.

Rynnas Scrivens Frattin Mueller Aulie Holzer Scrivens will all be tendered and retained.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Scrivens gets 2 contracts! WOOOOO!

by holymackinaw on Feb 8, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I doubt the Leafs walk on Gysbers or Mikus

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

me too unless they sign college ufa dmen. They do need AHL dmen to play next year afterall. We don’t have any coming from junior I don’t believe soo

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Gysbers is 24 and one of the Marlies better D men, Mikus is 23 and has some very good potential, neither will be expensive and there are no over age D prospects bumping them

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Though the Leafs could bring Nilsson over if they feel like he’s ready.

RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter

by Bower Power on Feb 8, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

if he came over next year he’d be going to the CHL

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

hurrrrr

I meant Granberg.

RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter

by Bower Power on Feb 8, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

possible
Marlies prospect based defense will probably shake up something like
Blacker – Gysbers
Aulie – Holzer
Mikus – ???
so there is room for Granberg, also Holzer and Blacker may very well be NHL ready next season. I also expect there to be at least one vet somewhere in the pot

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Granberg’s under contract in the SEL next season. We won’t see him until at least 2013-14.

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

and there we have it

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Well then. nicely done.

RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter

by Bower Power on Feb 8, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Learned a lot about all our “Who’s that?” prospects doing this 25 Under 25 thing.

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Mikus should be back. He is actually pretty damn young. He just came over really early.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought he was a year or two younger. Nervermind.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd keep

Frattin
Mueller
Aulie
Holzer
Scrivens

and re-sign UFAs
Zigomanis
maybe Hamilton (AHL leadership or something, he is the captain)

I dunno about you guys… I’m not sure Mikus or Gypsers are ever making the big club.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

And Rynnas?

-"I'm not drinking and driving, I'm driving while I'm drinking....Right boys!?"
Lest we forget: Brett Lebda

by kudzupo on Feb 8, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly I don't know about Rynnas. Might have to see what they do with Gus.

If they keep Gustavsson, they can roll Scrivens/Owuya on the Marlies. Not sure if they want to keep rocking 3 goalies, 1 constantly going back between the ECHL. But I dunno, maybe Burke has an eye on another European UFA goalie?

As for Gypsers…

I dunno about you guys… I’m not sure Mikus or Gypsers are ever making the big club.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

He made a typo. Whatever

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually always thought it was Gyspers.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Rynnas won’t be let to just walk. At the very least he’ll be a throw in on a trade. He’s only 23 and has talent. Some team will want him.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Rynnas has 0 trade value.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

So did Pogge…

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

He turns 25 this year

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I want to see what Owuya can do in the near future, and looking beyond that Sparks too

-"I'm not drinking and driving, I'm driving while I'm drinking....Right boys!?"
Lest we forget: Brett Lebda

by kudzupo on Feb 8, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Lets not start talking about SParks yet

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll be 30 before he should even be considered an actual prospect within the organization.

And you know what happens at 30. Go from Prime to busted.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Sparks is still 3 years out. Rynnas’ contract will have no bearing on Sparks’ position on the depth chart.

The Leafs have a couple options, and it almost entirely rides on their internal valuations of their goalies. They could not re-sign Gustavsson, move up Scrivens to a backup role, and give let Owuya and Rynnas fight it out on the Marlies. They could re-sign Gustavsson, and let Scrivens, Owuya, and Rynnas all fight it out, with the loser in Reading, or they could re-sign Gustavsson, let Rynnas walk, and split the Marlies starts between Scrivens and Rynnas.

We probably won’t know until July.

RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter

by Bower Power on Feb 8, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Sparks will be in the pro ranks starting in the 2013-2014 season if he’s gunna stick with the org. Prolly ECHL to start like Reimer

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly, thats a long while. He shouldnt be a real thought right now

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Not to mention he was a 7th round pick so there’s no guarentee he’ll even make it out of the OHL

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t say he was a real thought, I said I want to see what he can do way down the line

-"I'm not drinking and driving, I'm driving while I'm drinking....Right boys!?"
Lest we forget: Brett Lebda

by kudzupo on Feb 8, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Frattin, Mueller, Aulie, Holzer, Scrivens are guarantees to be re-signed.
I’d say they are more likely than not to re-sign Gysbers, Mikus, Zigomanis and Hamilton.
I’d say Rynnas and MItchell are 50/50
Lashoff and Dupuis probably not.
Finger no way
Greenop hasn’t played in over a year due to concussions

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Lashoff is more likely than Mitchell.

Mitchell can barely crack the AHL roster. He won’t get a NHL contract. Marlies might sign him but thats about it.

Lashoff is good AHL depth.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I just look at how many new contracts may be coming up to the Marlies next year… McKegg, Nicholls, Olden, Ross, etc.

Gotta let some of these guys who just aren’t developing in a reasonable timeframe go.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Olden’s staying in OHL

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

And they may not want him to stay with the Erie “7 wins” Otters

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

7 wins or not, Sondre Olden’s stats don’t scream “pro ready”

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Reading Royals!

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

neither did McKeggs on that team…

Also Olden might not be a scorer at the next level anyways

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

He might get a camp invite and see if he’s worth a contract (or AHL contract) at that point.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

If he’s not signed by June we lose him back into the draft…

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

neither did McKeggs on that team

McKegg was good at the leafs camp tho, so there is a precedent there. Olden hasn’t proven a thing to anyone yet

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

LOLWUT

McKegg was -39 with the Otters and was still point a game.

Olden has 20 points in 32 games.

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

So excited for McKegg.

by stevesmith19 on Feb 8, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

'sup

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

yo

RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter

by Bower Power on Feb 8, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice. I call this one “45 seconds of McKegg”
Staring at me for 15 seconds before a 15 second long fart.
He then maintains eye contact for an additional 15 seconds.
Intense.

"These balloons aren't going to stay filled till New Year's!"
"Those aren't for New Year's... those are my everyday balloons."

by Isosceles Kramer on Feb 8, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

And then he doesn’t call…

by stevesmith19 on Feb 8, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

so? Olden might not be a 100% offensive player like McKegg. Bottom line is McKeggs ppg has doubled with his new team whose to say Olden wouldn’t be at least ppg on a better team? And who’s to say that isn’t his offensive ceiling?

I always thought he’d be a 3rd line 2 way forward putting up 30pts a year.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I always thought he’d be a 3rd line 2 way forward putting up 30pts a year.

The question is: why do you think this? At age 18 he put up 22 points in 33 games for J20 SEL. At 17 he put up 27 in 32 for J20. Now, he’s scoring below a PPG pace on an abysmal team – whose leading scorer went from PPG to 2 PPG when he was paired with actual talent.

RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter

by Bower Power on Feb 8, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

the (few) scouting reports I’ve read seem to indicate he’s not a natural scorer than someone like a McKegg is, but that he’s a smart hockey player. I’d love for him to score more than 30 a season but I don’t expect it from him.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

The only things I like about Olden is that he’s big and a C.

He was also marked as a project.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

coincidently the same things I like about Kenny Ryan.

Well that and they are both smart players apparently

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

The only things I remember about Kenny Ryan are during preseason where he was pegged as Tim Brent 2.0 because he was blocking shots like a mofo

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

The NHL Equivalency for the OHL is somewhere between 0.35 and 0.4.

Olden’s scoring at 0.625 ppg in the O. That means over a full season he’d project to about 0.22 ppg in the NHL.

Or 18 points.

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Add in the Erie factor and he’d be around 30pts

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

How can you know this

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

probably judging by McKeggs increased performance after leaving erie

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m reasonably certain Erie traded other players at the deadline and they didn’t immediately double their scoring production

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe they were defensemen? idn who they traded soo

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah.

Erie actually had some better games after the trade deadline, scored 14 goals in their only 2 wins since then

of course better games is a relative term for them

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

McKegg was holding them back

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

They obviously had more breatheable air

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Funny story

Marchese (F): 16 in 29, to Windsor, 14 in 16.
Brett Cook (D): 12 in 26, to London, 2 in 13.
Derek Holden (D): 9 in 34, to Windsor, 4 in 3.
Mike Cazzola (F): 9 in 12, to Ottawa, 17 in 10.
Brett Thompson (F): 7 in 9, to Sarnia, 44 in 34.
Greg McKegg (F): 34 in 35, to London, 24 in 13.

So yeah, the moral of the story is: GTFO Erie.

RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter

by Bower Power on Feb 8, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

coming back:

Dane Fox (F): 32 in 34 on London, 11 in 11.
Jimmy McDowell (D): 7 in 34 on Oshawa, 3 in 9.
Anthony Cortellessa (F): 2 in 31 on Windsor, 4 in 16.
Troy Donnay (D): 3 in 23 on London, 2 in 12.

So increases, possibly in part due to extra ice time, but definitely not as substantial an increase as Erie’s departures.

RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter

by Bower Power on Feb 8, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

And McKegg went from a 28-32 point season on the Otters to a 53-61 point season on the Knights.

RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter

by Bower Power on Feb 8, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

To clarify: 28-32 / 53-61 NHLe season.

RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter

by Bower Power on Feb 8, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

OHL overage season still counts against the 50 contract limit. Its not just open spaces but # of contracts we need to worry about.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you sure about that?

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Dump: Mitchell, Lashoff, Greenop for sure.

Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.

by Chemmy on Feb 8, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

IMO

Keep Frattin, Gysbers, Mueller, Aulie, Scrivens, Mikus, Mitchell
See if you can flip Rynnas for a pick, if not, sign him.
Walk from Lashoff, Greenop

by Ben Schnell on Feb 8, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait which Mitchell is this? Not the young good one in the O? Dump him

by Ben Schnell on Feb 8, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Dale Mitchell.

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

he means nothing to me

by Ben Schnell on Feb 8, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

We have a good Mitchell?

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I was thinking of Kenny Ryan, I think.

by Ben Schnell on Feb 8, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

you mean Kenny “I’m in the AHL/ECHL right now not the O” Ryan?

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought maybe you meant Kim Mitchell

The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts.

by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 8, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, I might as well go for a soda….There’s too many Mitchell’s in this thread

by JohnerstonRex on Feb 8, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

As long as its not John Fucking Mitchell

by Dr_Furious on Feb 8, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Gysbers
Mitchell (he doesn’t seem able to get a regular AHL job, let alone NHL job)
Lashoff (He may be kept as a vet AHL/NHL tweener, but my guess is he would rather be in a system where he could be a first call up. When injuries hit and a guy like Lebda (or Strahlman) get jobs he could have also)
Greenop (I don’t know much about him, so am prepared to be proven wrong).

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I just noticed

Gysbers is younger than I thought. So forget him.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

With the current situation on our D

plus Aulie, Holzer, Blacker (arguably) in front of him, plus Percy in a year or so, should the Marlies really keep hoping these guys end up being late bloomers a la Brent or Crabb?

I dunno. I wouldnt’ shed a tear if they walked for nothing. Rynnas either.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Why would we let either go without a viable replacement? especially Rynnas, he has struggled, but showed some pretty damned good promise

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Percy isn’t here yet and we need guys on the farm. Mikus is a year younger than Holzer and is the same age as Gunnar’s first season. D-men also develop slower than forwards so I don’t know if Brent or Crabb are great comparisons.

Basically I don’t really see the need to let them go. Are we that close to the 50 person cap?

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

We have to let a few go, that's for sure.

Quick headcount gets me Ross, Olden, McKegg, Nicholls, Crescenzi, so min 5 contracts have to go. Plus I’m assuming Burke will try dipping into a European UFA pool or an unsigned free agent pool.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Keep Rynnas! From all reports he moves well for a giant.

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
William of Nassau am I, of Dutch blood. Loyal to the fatherland I will remain until I die.

by Redonred on Feb 8, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

in the ECHL.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone at the Goalie Guild live blog recommended loaning him to another AHL team.
From the Staff that covered that game:

I am ready to see the Leafs push Jussi Rynnas up the development ladder. I am kind of surprised he is down in the ECHL. But at least he’s playing. I think he has more potential than Reimer.

In reference to why he likes him:
Can’t answer that without writing an essay, but like you’ve seen, it’s his size/athleticism/quickness combo. He is capable of being dynamic, I think he can evolve into a goalie that is way more situationally aware. And he’s a bull. Kind of like Niemi, a very low center of gravity, so when he seals the ice, the ice is SEALED. Not going to push him around. He has the potential to be a very “square” goalie to pucks and shooters. Just love his upside a lot. It’s certainly partially due to personal bias. I love Finnish goalies for many different reasons.

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
William of Nassau am I, of Dutch blood. Loyal to the fatherland I will remain until I die.

by Redonred on Feb 8, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Via Chansler
Three goals in two games for Matty Fratty. #letsgomarlies

I dont know about that name….

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 1:24 PM EST reply actions  

Ugh, I wish he would stop talking.

www.twitter.com/runaroundkid

by runaroundkid on Feb 8, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not sure that a public figure like Tim Thomas should be saying stuff like this. Although I don’t completely understand his point.

by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

More reasons to dislike a rival team’s goalie? Sign me up.

The government is infringing on my right to discriminate!

by stevesmith19 on Feb 8, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

STOP OPPRESSING THE LARGEST RELIGION IN THE US AND THE WORLD IN GENERAL!

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

GAYS HAVE TO BE TREATED EQUALLY IN THE EYES OF THE LAW? STOP OPPRESSING ME!

RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter

by Bower Power on Feb 8, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty much. Again, Tim Thomas is a fucking asshole so fuck him.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I liked that page so I can be kept informed, man why is no one else telling me these things?

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Because all of our information is being controlled by the Jew-run liberal media.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

See?
You Go Tim! And people posting comment should learn few a things before talking and be more critical about what TV and news papers say…

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

A Republican Masshole is basically the lowest form of human that hasn’t committed a crime.

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

A democratic masshole isn’t too far behind

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Even then I’d rather be stuck in a room with someone like a convicted international art thief (or someone in jail for tax evasion… no one violent basically) than most Massholes

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Tim, it is refreshing to see an athlete be so informed. Although I completely disagree with your pov on this post, continue being up to date with your issues. Thank goodness this country is still one where it is okay to agree to disagree!
Terrific quote and is timely bec this is happening all over the world and very well could happen here! Religious freedom is one of the things this country was founded on and we’ve certainly gotten away from the Constitution which is very scary. Fascism has no place here but people better be watching out for their freedom at all times!!

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

HELP! TIM THOMAS IS CENSORING MY POSTS! How dare he! It’s my right to speak out as a Free Citizen!

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

That second comment is bang-on.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of discrimination of others is right there in the Constitution.

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Fucking fascists, forcing my government to treat individuals equally.

RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter

by Bower Power on Feb 8, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

odds on me posting a comment asking if anyone actually knows what fascists means and getting OBAMA!!1 back as the first answer?

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Off The Board

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

does this person realize that while religious freedom IS one of the founding principles of the constitution the phrases ‘one nation under god’ and ‘in god we trust’ were added to the pledge and money, respectively, in the 1950s in response to paranoid fears of communism?

the freedom of religious is a beautiful thing. you want to go pray to some 8-eyed bowl of spaghetti, be my guest. just don’t use the government/courts to force others to live their lives according to your beliefs.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 8, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Does the bowl have 8 eyes or the spaghetti?

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

neither

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

let’s not drag pastafarians into this

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

the pastafarians never bothered ANYONE!

by Goosemonster on Feb 8, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

my uncle gets a bit crazy, my cousin posted a youtube video of a soldier medal ceremony and he want off about the low view count and how no one sees these and the liberal media etc…

I explained to him youtube is 90% about teenagers posting emo video blogs, and kittens being adorable.

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Can i get a chart on this?

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

AHHHH! You figured us out!

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Twitter is hilarious right now

one of my favorites.

@NHLShanaBan
Not Brendan Shanahan
Tim Thomas, it is not the Dept. of Player Safety’s responsibility to protect you from religious persecution. Sorry.

by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 1:57 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Related

No fair we can’t concuss anyone anymore! – Bruins

OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.

by Ubiquitous on Feb 8, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck the Bruins, don’t hit people in the head if you don’t want to get suspended

Toronto Maple Leafs: Lupul is Lupul backwards
Officially on Team Re-Sign Grabbo
Twitter

by LeafFan1989 on Feb 8, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

WOOOOOOOOOO PLAYOFFS.

@TheScottLewis: Has there been a team in the Winter Classic that’s failed to make the playoffs in the previous season?
@AGretz: There has not.

RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter

by Bower Power on Feb 8, 2012 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

Warning: Past performance is not a guarantee of future results.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Back to hockey

JP, if you’re here, when you looked into the Leafs back to back games did they have more then other teams? It seems like every other week the Leafs are in a back to back. I also remember that you looked into it and about half of them didn’t need to happen

by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 2:31 PM EST reply actions  

I’m really upset that apparently no one clicked thru on the link to Mirtle’s article.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 2:42 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

I have a plugin that denies such links and substitutes a page i find more hilarious.

OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.

by Ubiquitous on Feb 8, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

/slow clap

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

haha I clicked on the name without even realizing it was 2 different links

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Same here.

Useless comments since 2009.

by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 8, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

ha!

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

You were born in Winnipeg, weren’t you?

by LeafInVancouver on Feb 8, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Via the Sportsnet website
“Do a graphic for any year — the math doesn’t work,” Burke tells USA Today. “Fourteen to 16 teams add players. Prices are inflated, and there is one Stanley Cup parade at the end of the season. The trade deadline is a pit of quicksand.”

Personally I’m comfortable going into the home stretch with what we have right now if the price is not right for a trade. The chemistry is good and everyone on the roster has a defined role. I really want to see this core group galvanize themselves as a unit and play for each other down to the wire.

by lucc on Feb 8, 2012 3:27 PM EST reply actions  

I agree – I hate trade deadline ‘buying’… Burke seems more like a long-term trader. If he does something, it’s probably more that he thinks it will help us next year and not just this season.

by Dr_Furious on Feb 8, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck that

TRADE ALL THE PLAYERZ!

N GET BRAND NEW ONEZ!!!

N WIN TEH CUPZ~~~!!!1

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

BOS did a pretty good job adding depth for not crazy prices (except Kaberle)

Peverley, Boyes, Kelly, etc.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Boyes went to Buffalo

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Ya I was hoping no one would bust me on that, I remembered it like 20 minutes after i posted this

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Hehehe sorry dude.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

you thought you wouldn’t get busted…. on ppp? come on.

I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.

by Chuck Diesel on Feb 9, 2012 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Burke wants to make the playoffs. If he can’t add the top forward he wants, he’ll probably keep the current group together and make his move(s) this summer.

The only spot I really expect to change would be Crabb’s 3rd line job.

Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.

by birky on Feb 8, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Right. Joey Crabb is awful on the 3rd line

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

he better than lombardi, right?

by l3ojangles on Feb 8, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

please don’t be Moen

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

nah. That line needs someone with a little more scoring touch.

Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.

by birky on Feb 8, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

8 goals in 43 games is good 3rd line production. If we need someone who plays more of a skill game, call up Kadri and send down Crabb. There’s nothing available for our 3rd line in the trade market that we don’t already have internally.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull

by Draglikepull on Feb 8, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree 100%.

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Frattin is earning that call up

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont see him being called up tho.

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

for a 3rd line winger slot for a playoff push over kadri the way both are playing right now? I do

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Not unless someone gets hurt. Wilson likes Crabb, at least it appears as such

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Crabb has three goals since 11/27. Connolly has one goal since 12/13.

Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.

by birky on Feb 8, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Joey Crabb- fun nickname, not very good at hockey

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

We’re assuming that Connolly, who has been a good player for several years now, has suddenly just forgotten how to score goals in the NHL?

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull

by Draglikepull on Feb 8, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Connolly’s career high in goals is 18 (in 48 games)

OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.

by Ubiquitous on Feb 8, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Comparison:

Rob Niedermayer once scored 26 goals in a season.

OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.

by Ubiquitous on Feb 8, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m assuming the price for a 3rd line rental would be acceptable and could help get more balanced scoring.

Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.

by birky on Feb 8, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

More than who? Lombardi? Connolly? Kadri? Who would be available at a decent cost (say, a mid-round draft pick) that is better offensively than those players?

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull

by Draglikepull on Feb 8, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Dominic Moore for a 2nd

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Brad Boyes
(gulp) Andrei Kostitsyn
Ray Whitney
Milan Hejduk
Saku Koivu

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

i dont think any one of those except maybe boyes could be had for a mid round pick, if a 3rd is considered a mid round pick

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

He should be worth a third, but the trade deadline is stupid time so he’ll probably be worth more.

OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.

by Ubiquitous on Feb 8, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Hard to tell… some names get jacked up to a 2nd, others go for a 4th & 7th (damn you stempniak)

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Just spitballing upcoming UFAs who dont get tossed in trade rumours much.

I dont know what they’d cost….

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

too much

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Boyes is an interesting name. Bad year could deflate his cost enough. He only cost a 2nd last year.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Boyes has been having bad years for 4 years

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Not as bad as you’d think. His last 5 years:

GP G Pts
82 43 65
82 33 72
82 14 42 Bad year
83 17 55 (Solid not spectacular year)
39 3 13 (terrible year)

In his last 3 years (not 4) he has had one good year, one bad, and is now on a terrible year.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

ah, I totally read the split between the Blues and Sabres as two different years

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah a lot of people think he has had really bad years recently. When reality the bad years just looked so bad in comparison to his great ones 4 years ago.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

he’s had a heavy dose of knee injuries lately though, still wouldn’t pay much to take that risk

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

He only cost a second last year IIRC. After this year and his contract if we can have him for less I’d probably do it (not as a first choice, but as a stocking up move).

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

the Leafs arnt good enough where a guy you can get for a 2nd or less (who isnt an ok back up goalie) will make any sort of difference worth noting.
I’d rather keep all our long shot lottery picks

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I just like trades to much. They’re fun.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I like block buster Phaneuf style trades
we need one of those

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn right.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

The Habs need to hire JFJ. Then we can do Price for Steckel, Army, and Komisarek. Clearly that will give them the size they need to no longer be the dwarf Habs or something like that.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d rather have Joey Crabb than Boyes.

Whitney, Hejduk and Koivu aren’t moving.

Kostistyn would be pretty interesting, and assuming their history is in fact buried, Toronto poaching Grabovski and Kostitsyn from Montreal would be beyond hilarious.

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Ya I was literally just knocking off names from Capgeek.

Not saying Leafs would or should be interested at all – but you dont think ANA would try to get something for Saku? ANA isn’t seeing playoffs.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

How about Brodziak or David Jones?

by jeffgm on Feb 8, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sure they’re young enough that MIN and COL will try to re-sign them rather than trade them.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Jones might be let go with all the players COL need to resign. And I agree Brodziak will get resigned for a raise – great caphit this year.

by jeffgm on Feb 8, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Given recent Leafs/Colorado trade history, I think we could get Jones for a 7th. And they take Komi back.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Ducks have been pretty clear they expect Koivu and Selanne to retire as Ducks.

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Leafs can take on a contract up to $7million in full value at the deadline. So, someone with an expiring contract that wouldn’t impact the Leafs cap going forward into the summer.

Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.

by birky on Feb 8, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Woo we can take on Alexander Semin!

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

….or Zach Parise.

Just sayin’.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

the fraud just put up a post saying Penner
ugh

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Burke loves that guy! Let’s trade Kadri for him!

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

David Jones? Dater said the Avs could move him. Samuelsson from Florida? Injured a chunk of the year, but healthy now.

Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.

by birky on Feb 8, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy shit, David Jones career 17.3% shooter

http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/j/jonesda01.html

17.6% last year, 18.3% this year. Can anyone really expect him to keep that up?

He seems to suffer from Kulemin-itis… shoot 1.4x per game. That’s insanely low…. only playing 14:54 mins per night, but still.

Low TOI… insane shooting %… this guy has red flags, but based on boxcar stats will probably get a decent raise

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Getting a raise is sort of moot for a rental player, but not exactly the solid rental to take a team over the top either.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Which of those players is going to move for, say, a 4th round pick? The Leafs aren’t winning the Cup this year; giving up assets like decent prospects or 2nd round draft picks for a minor upgrade to our 3rd line makes zero sense. We’ve already got guys interally who can play those roles. No giving up assets for rentals.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull

by Draglikepull on Feb 8, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re right. Go all-in on Parise instead.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

No giving up assets for rentals.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull

by Draglikepull on Feb 8, 2012 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Obviously Burke signs him to a sweetheart 5-year deal after the trade.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

In which case I approve of this trade.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull

by Draglikepull on Feb 8, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t have aspirations of the Leafs winning the cup, but I’d like a competitive chance. Given that a 3rd or 4th round pick has little chance of making the NHL, I’d be ok with giving up an asset.

Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.

by birky on Feb 8, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

right, if it costs a 3rd or later,
but when the price starts to hit 2nd rounders or higher in value you start to enter “not worth it” territory for most of these guys

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Dominic Moore has moved for a 2nd round draft pick twice. Chris Kelly cost a 2nd rounder last year. Forwards who moved for a 3rd last season:

Brad Winchester
Max Lapierre (kind of, deal included swapped prospects)
Chris Higgins (3rd and a prospect)

We’re not getting someone better than Lombardi or Kadri for a 3rd or a 4th.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull

by Draglikepull on Feb 8, 2012 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Lee Fucking Stempniak was on pace for over 20 goals and (I think) 40 points when he was traded for a 4th and 7th.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d rather play Kadri than whoever this year’s Lee Stempniak is.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull

by Draglikepull on Feb 8, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Considering that the past couple years he hasn’t made a move for Rob Niedermayer or Pahlsson i wouldn’t worry bout it too much.

by samspade on Feb 8, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

if Army can’t get himself back to fill that 3rd line spot then they’ll bring Kadri back up after the deadline imo. I don’t really know who out there is more of an upgrade.

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Goals scored up to and including 24 years of age

Mats Sundin – 168

Phil Kessel – 158 and counting

Discuss.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull

by Draglikepull on Feb 8, 2012 4:19 PM EST reply actions  

two completely different players

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn, I messed up my search. Sundin actually had 191. As you were.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull

by Draglikepull on Feb 8, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

That Sundin guy was kinda good

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Try to hide the boner.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Why Bother?

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

something to hang the jersey on

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 4:58 PM EST via Android app up reply actions   2 recs

Thats advertising it… which I approve

Kadri Fanboy since 2006

by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Impressive for Sundin having played in the dead puck era.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

The leading scorer in the NHL in Sundin’s 24 year old season had 161 points. 6 players broke 110 points that year. Zero players are on pace for 110 points this season.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull

by Draglikepull on Feb 8, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Sundin had three years with Sakic and Nolan and they all tore it up
and yet the Nords were still horrific

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Nords is a really funny nickname.
I vote on bringing them back, just because of this

by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

think of all the Skyrim jokes!

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Sundin turned 24 in Feb. 1995, so practically all of those goals came before the DPA, back in the ‘Defense? What’s That?’ era.

TWEET AT ME BRO
DAAAAA BLOG
Leaf fan for life! (No, really. They gave me a no-trade clause when I was born.)

by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 9, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Huh. Even if Boston had .909 goaltending this year, they’d still be on pace for 110 points. Impressive.

Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.

by birky on Feb 8, 2012 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

Eh, hard to qualify that because you can’t say for certain when they would’ve let in goals.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I have said that for the longest time.

Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
Follow me on twitter: leafer1984

by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I was just using pythagorean expectation

Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.

by birky on Feb 8, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

You don’t lose a lot of games when you score 7 goals.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Flyers say hi

"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."

by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 8, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

To be fair, is it even possible to stop the juggarnaut that is the Winnipeg Jets? My sources say no.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

we held them to 2!!!!!!

www.twitter.com/CameronSorley

by CameronSorley on Feb 8, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

what's your worst hockey injury?

just underwent surgery today to place a metal plate in and check the ligaments after breaking my left fibula the other night….

I don’t even know how it happened… I tried to kick a pick up to myself, ended up turning my ankle and somehow landed with all my weight on it… gruesomely awkward fall and out 8-10 weeks plus rehab. sucks too as our playoffs are right around the corner and its doubtful I’m ready for the beginning of summer season

by Papa Squid on Feb 8, 2012 7:28 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

three way tie
head first into the boards from behind for a severe concussion
fell during a fight awkwardly onto my shoulder knocking it out of the socket and tearing some stuff up
getting ulf samuelsson’d and tearing some ligaments and other wonderful crunchy noises

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, and ive also destroyed most of the cartilage in the points of my elbows, its free floating and I can move around the little bits to this day

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

wow…. are you tim connollly? :P

joking aside, those all sound horrible

by Papa Squid on Feb 8, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve got that

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Jesus dude, that sounds gnarly as fuck

If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach

by Ghostsof on Feb 8, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

oh man, that sucks. mines probably a twisted ankle, I’ve been pretty lucky with sports other then rugby, I bruised my Diaphragm tackling a guy, it was hard to breathe for a while.

by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I got my head broken off once in this collision with a guy.

Worst thing? In the melee that followed, I think I picked up the wrong head.

There are days now, I just…. donno….

* wanders off whistling to self *

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s just a fleshwound!

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Feb 8, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

My injuries

3 broken ribs
Left calf nerve damage
Sprained right MCL
Torn right patella capsule
Random little things like slash-rash

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

nerve damage? the docs were concerned about possible nerve damage which would have led to numbness on the top of my foot, but seemed to have escaped that

by Papa Squid on Feb 8, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I had a pair of Easton skate that rubbed my leg right on the shin bone where my calf nerve goes from the back of my leg to the front. Thought I had a hairline fracture and even got X-Rays.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Worst would probably be getting in a fight, getting facemasked in said fight and having my ear split into the cartilage.

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Also separated the same shoulder twice in the same game. (And separated the other one four years earlier).

Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік

by clrkaitken on Feb 8, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

3 to 4 concussions depending on who you ask

www.twitter.com/CameronSorley

by CameronSorley on Feb 9, 2012 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

there’s a really interesting piece in the Globe about Ken Hitchcock. He talks a lot about how much the game has changed, and how possession doesn’t matter.

It’s always been one of my suspicions that Ron Wilson’s lack of success with this team (until very recently) might be because he’s not longer a coached suited to the new-new NHL. Maybe he’s adjusted enough, or maybe he has the tallent now, or maybe it’s a combination. But it’s still interesting to consider that things about the game that applied 3 or 4 years ago no longer hold.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 8, 2012 7:52 PM EST reply actions  

We tried to still play possession hockey after the lockout, and now it’s race-a-rrific hockey. Bang it up the ice, chip it in, fore-check like hell, bang it down the ice.

I don’t know if Hitchcock knows something different, but Eric T over at BSH has found that dump-and-chase is one of the least successful offensive and defensive strategies.

Also, puck possession measures like Corsi and Fenwick are still the best predictor of team success that we have, which seems to indicate that puck possession is still very important. Interestingly, the Blues have actually been an exceptionally good puck possession team this season – 2nd in Fenwick close behind Detroit.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull

by Draglikepull on Feb 8, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

i wonder whether he’s using ‘possession’ in the literal sense. if your team out shoots and out-chances the other team, the team will have good ‘possession’ stats.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 8, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

See I have always wondered how much of a “puck posession” marker Corsi and Fenwick are. They measure shots for and against, not puck possession directly. A team that is circling for a long time with the puck vs a team that shoots a lot may end up with low Corsi or Fenwick numbers…

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

He has a great set of grinding forwards that can forecheck forecheck forecheck like he wants.

Also his comments on how he changed his coaching to adjust to player age by not overwhelming his is notable.

by jeffgm on Feb 8, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

My puck possession series (which I swear I’ll finish eventually) showed that Corsi and actual puck possession lined up pretty well more often than not. For example, in the last game I did, the ratios for Time On Attack (aka puck possession), Corsi, and Fenwick for the Leafs were:

TOA – 48.8%
Corsi – 50.0%
Fenwick – 46.9%

A couple of percent works out to maybe a few shot attempts over the course of a full game. The numbers are close.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull

by Draglikepull on Feb 8, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah I completely forgot about those. Thanks for doing that btw.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Really OT

I’m going to be in Florence/ Rome for a weekish in March. Struggling to plan how long it takes to see these sights. Anyone by chance have experiences to share?

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
William of Nassau am I, of Dutch blood. Loyal to the fatherland I will remain until I die.

by Redonred on Feb 8, 2012 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

I spent three days in Florence alone just going to some of the museums. No matter how long you take, you will never see all of either of them. I would recommend researching exactly what you want to see and prioritizing. In Rome, for example, I spent an entire day just at the Coliseum and Forum.

by LeafInVancouver on Feb 8, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Really enjoyed the Capitoline Museum and the Vatican Museums… the Colosseum, the Pantheon, lots of sights in Rome. Italy’s all about thee obelisks from the empire. SPQR.

by Papa Squid on Feb 8, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they have a team, the Florence Flounders. Play in the ECHL.

Might wanna hang out and catch a game.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks kinda thought so. The Brass doors of San Giovanni, and Palazzo Medici/ baptistry are my main concerns. Did you have problems with cameras anywhere?

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
William of Nassau am I, of Dutch blood. Loyal to the fatherland I will remain until I die.

by Redonred on Feb 8, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Outdoor stuff, no. Indoors, sometimes. The Vatican does NOT like cameras, especially in the Sistine Chapel.

by LeafInVancouver on Feb 8, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn’t stop my group from getting photos though.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

So far I’ve got for Rome: Palatine Hill, Roman Forum, Colosseo, Capitoline Hill, Pantheon, Campo de’ Fiori, Castle of Saint Angelo, Sistine Chapel, St. Peter’s Basilica.
Though I feel like I’m missing a tonne. Florence is my main reason for going to Italy.

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
William of Nassau am I, of Dutch blood. Loyal to the fatherland I will remain until I die.

by Redonred on Feb 8, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I loved Siena, and just hanging about in the smaller towns/villages/countryside of Tuscany.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yea I’ve already regret booking such a short amount of time for a trip. But it’s a busy time for work and I want to get my hours done for apprenticeship. Hopefully next year I can go for a lot longer as I really want to go to Munich for Oktoberfest.

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
William of Nassau am I, of Dutch blood. Loyal to the fatherland I will remain until I die.

by Redonred on Feb 8, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Oktoberfest is something that needs to be experienced…and I agree with not norm, Siena is amazing….and your experiences will be a lot better outside the main tourist attractions. That being said, things like the Coliseum and Vatican City have to be seen

Come get your duds in order 'cuz we're bound to cross the water, HEAVE AWAY, me jollies, HEAVE AWAY -- Bowl of Fruit Lups in the evening gets the playoffs started!!

by TheNadger on Feb 8, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

How the mighty have fallen.... after Bruins being down 4-0
@MurphysLaw74
Jimmy Murphy
Bruins fans…would you trade David Krejci and for who?

Writer for ESPN Boston.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 9:15 PM EST reply actions  

I think this more shows that ESPN is stupid. Let us hope that the answer is a physical defenseman and that they think that defenseman is Mike Komisarek.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Oh. My. God. I just re-watched the “T.M.I” episode. This explains so much about Tim Thomas… we just need to adjust the T.M.I scale, and he will no longer post overly political facebook posts comparing Obama to the Nazis

Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt

by Chi-town leafs on Feb 8, 2012 11:01 PM EST reply actions  

JeffSammut590 Jeff Sammut
For this Leafs team to be Cup contenders, he needs to score 50 goals.
49 minutes ago


what an idjit

.......................
Monaluckahiki means hockey. Monaluckahockey means love.

by OffTheChest on Feb 9, 2012 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

he =/= Phil

.......................
Monaluckahiki means hockey. Monaluckahockey means love.

by OffTheChest on Feb 9, 2012 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

wait, you mean those cups that tampa and the ducks got when Stamkos and Perry scored 50 are moot?

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Feb 9, 2012 5:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Your best source for quality Toronto Maple Leafs news, rumours, analysis, stats and scores from the fan perspective.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

N907005365_1934770_7971_small
PPP Salary cap Challenge - Paper bag Leaf fan
Lifeasaleaffan_small
(Old) Marlies Game Photos
Newman_small
PPP Salary cap Challenge - samspade
Small
PPP Salary Cap Challenge - DaSim85
Globeatar_small
How Much Should You Spend On A Top 4 D?
Phaneufkessel_small
TOI-weighted NHL Team Ages
48839cd14228986f0ad0d2e405f1_small
Casting Call
Petering_small
PPP Salary Cap Challenge - Self Destructive Zones
Globeatar_small
The Fancystats Exchange, Part 1
Or-wallpaper-1680x1050__1__small
PPP Salary Cap Challenge-BCapp #2

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

StatCounter

wordpress visitor


Chief Blogging Officers

Calvin_small PPP

Aen1_small Chemmy

PPP's Girlfriends

Don_t_panic_small SkinnyFish

Picture_1_small JP Nikota

Fg_small birky

Christian-hanson-wrecks-brian-o_1__small Bower Power