Do The Leafs 'Give Up' on Grabbo?
What is Mikhail Grabovski Worth? - James Mirtle at the Globe and Mail
After a slow start this year, the 28-year-old Belarussian has again been the best Leaf on the ice over the last 15 games, with 12 points in his last six and 20 during Toronto’s 10-4-1 run since the start of 2012.
His scoring pace is now better than it was a year ago – 31 goals, 68 points over 82 games – despite the fact he’s spent most of the season with a bit of an anchor on his line in Nikolai Kulemin.
While Grabovski doesn’t play with Phil Kessel and Joffrey Lupul, there’s not really any argument that he isn’t Toronto’s best centre right now – and that’s a position where this team needs to add rather than subtract.
And he’s definitely not underappreciated by his teammates, who look at him as one of the team’s on-ice leaders.
Mirtle speculates it'll cost between $4.5 and $5.5M to re-sign Grabbo. But where does the money come from you say? If I'm Burke I'm looking to move Connolly for whatever I can get at the deadline; same goes for Komisarek and Armstrong. None of those three have had any meaningful impact on the Leafs good turn of fortunes in 2012, and all are grossly overpaid. No way should this team lose a player like Grabovski in order retain a player like Komisarek or Armstrong.
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We re-sign Grabbo and give up on people significantly underperforming on their contracts. I really doubt we can move Connolly, though who wouldn’t like that, and the same goes for Komi – although he will only be paid 3.5 million with a 4.5 million cap hit next year.
Yeah the three mentioned wouldn’t hurt anything being gone, but are probably 3 of the harder contracts to move.
But if Burke can move Blake and ToskaLOL hey, anythings possible right?
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I don’t know, I hope so, but it doesnt look like a good trade market right now. My guess is if we’re lucky we can do it in the off-season.
My only hope is that because the market for C’s is basically 0 if Grabovski re-signs, some one might want Connolly for 1 year… if he can continue to stay “healthy”
No no, dig UP stupid.
If we are going to sell them for pennies on the dollar why do it now? They provide depth for this team this year and we can give them away in the offseason when teams have more money to spend.
It makes no sense to give them away now when they can help the playoff drive (well maybe not Komi…)
a 7th now is worth the same as a 7th in the summer so why bother?
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I’m for getting rid of them ASAP for two reasons
1) Can’t be certain whether it’ll be possible to trade them in the summer.
2) I think there are likely some players from the Marlies that can step up and perform equal to or better than some of the under-performing players
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 8, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry but I don’t think trading 3 of the like 5 or 6 players on the team who has actually played a playoff game helps. Not to mention giving players like that away mid season could really send the wrong message or mess up the dressing room.
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How would trading 3 players who have missed significant playing time this year mess up the dressing room? Those guys are never in it! Getting rid of those guys lets the remaining players know that management has full confidence in them getting the job done. Overpaid underachievers need to go. Maybe keep Armstrong though just because he has really had a chance to prove his worth yet with all the injuries. Never should have signed Connelly in the first place. Grossly overpaid!
by kanienkeha009 on Feb 8, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Connolly really isn’t grossly over paid. Look at the guy Buffalo chose to replace him. That guy is overpaid. I am not against moving Connolly, but on a two year contract I don’t really see him being such a detriment to this team.
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I don’t think there is anyone on the Marlies who can play better than Connolly. I think that is vastly overrating our prospects.
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the only way Connolly moves is if Burke needs the cap space for Grabbo+ and cannot move guys like Armstrong or Komi
or if he trades for Jeff Carter and for some reason the Blue Jackets want him as the salary dump going back kinda thing
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
Connolly is completely moveable if Burke wants to. I don’t think he will because he just acquired him and has done okay (not very well, but okay). Note I am not saying he could bring a lot of value back, just that he could be moved. He doesn’t have negative value like Komi and Army likely have.
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by ddb on Feb 8, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
Is it just me
or is Lombardi looking a hell of a lot better the last 10 games compared to ’fresh off the concussion" Lombardi?
Trade Lombo
Bring up Frattin <- good speed, physical and be a perfect fit on the third line
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Frattin has been scoring a lot since his most recent demotion to the Marlies. He seems to have found his touch
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Ummm....
Fewer mistakes defensively.
Better shot, by a mile.
Hits much harder, more frequently into heavy duty areas.
More speed.
Kadri has better stick-handling, better passing, better on-ice creativity.
Which do you want?
I like both, but Kadri’s getting on my nerves somehow. There’s a cocky thing that I was fine with for a couple of years, but which increasingly feels to me like a denial to face that he may not dominate unless he really really plays with some urgency. When his coach says that too, that bugs me.
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by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
Frattin does not have more speed than Kadri
I’ve seen quite a few mistakes by both.
Kadri has a deceptively good shot, he just doesn’t use it enough at the NHL level.
Kadri isn’t shying away from contact anymore. He consistently is going into the corners now.
I much prefer the upside Kadri can bring. Especially if Wilson ever gets around to using Kadri at his best, aka the PP.
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As of right now, the Leafs need size and grit..
Maybe that will change next year and Kadri would be a better fit to their needs.
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Frattin is 12 lbs heavier than Kadri and the same height. Both are 6’0" and Frattin is 200 lbs to Kadri’s 188 (according to hockey reference).
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everyone seems to think Kadri is 5’8 or something
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
Not convinced Frattin isn’t the superior goal-scorer. which takes “hands” as well.
AHL so far… Frattin has 9 in 15, Kadri 8 in 25.
I’m still convinced a bit of bad puck luck is the only reason Frattin isn’t still up, and our own most obvious top rookie.
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by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
I think it has more to do with waivers. Frattin doesn’t have to clear them, and neither does Kadri. Everyone else (I think) does.
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Do you realize Frattin has 10 pts in 37 GP. Gardiner (on D) has 17 pts in 47 GP. There is no comparison in who our top rookie is.
As well I don’t care how bad Frattin’s luck is. He is a 23 year old who was on pace for a roughly 23 point season. I am not particularly impressed. I have seen his fundamentals and realize his skill, but I don’t think we should be holding our breath that he is ever more than a 15 goal, 40 point third liner (and we should be damn happy if he becomes that).
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Somebody else said this same “15 goal, 3rd liner” thing.
I’m afraid I just don’t see it. At all.
Whatev. We’ll see, eh?
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by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
Played 37 games on the 2nd and 3rd lines. Got all of 10 points. Yeah we need to get him back here ASAP.
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Lombardi has played 36 games and has 12 points..
Frattin is also more physical than Lombardi or Kadri.
And finally Frattin would have more “Truculence” to the leafs
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by Gebx on Feb 8, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Lombardi is more defensively responsible than either of them
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Lombardi also plays on the PK
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hehe, and part of me just wants to see him wreck more people on the ice!!
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I like Frattin, but he didn’t really hit anyone, he just didn’t let people hit him
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Lombardi also plays on perfect in 2012 the PK
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by Curt S on Feb 8, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Lombardi is more defensively responsible than either of them
On the surface that seems like bullshit since Lombardi has a team worst +/- of -6…
So y view isn’t changing unless you can pull some advance stats explaining why he’s better defensively.
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Gardiner and Schenn have a team best +9 so I’m thinking you busting out the +/- stats is pretty shite
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I’m not surprised by Gardiner’s +/-
He’s been on the ice for 43 goals with a 21 minute TOI avg.. That’ s 10 goals less than Gunnarson who has an extra minute per game.
This is not a bash on Gunnarson since he faces tougher opponents, but just showing that Gardiner can keep his own.
but I can’t explain Schenn’s stat… it’s sort of mind boggling.. he’s been on the ice for 52 goals (tied for 3rd), yet has a +9 stat?
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its almost as if the +/- is a flawed stat
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The Leafs don’t need to bury Frattin on the depth chart just for a marginal upgrade on Lombardi.
Keep him on the Marlies in a top six role for their playoff run. That goes for Colborne and Kadri, too.
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I’m kinda feeling this. Get all 3 playing with some desperation to make the big club, see if they can set the AHL on fire. Then…. when injuries happen, we get them hitting the ice with peak energy and confidence.
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by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
I would love those 3 to be on a line in the AHL but right now they aren’t I believe :(
I want those 3 to light the AHL up together then move up as a group next year to be a shelter scoring line like who Getzlaf and Perry moved up in Anahiem.
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Kadri Frattin and Mueller I believe are a line
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Lombardi is a much better player than Frattin. He is a lot better defensively and is useful on the PK.
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We may want him up now, but overall, he’s way more fragile, and Frattin will outscore him pretty dramatically.
I’m also not so convinced Frattin is a poor defensive player. He didn’t look that way to me – especially for a rookie. You can say +/- is a crap stat, but the fact is, while Frattin was on the ice, the Leafs only gave up 14 goals against, in total. That’s not “getting shot up.” Lombardi’s at 27, in the same number of minutes on the ice. And yes, I know I know, Lombardi gets defensive roles. I’m just saying, let’s not dismiss Frattin’s ability to p-lay responsibly.
I’d say it’s just a question of whether he starts this year or next. and when you can score in the AHL at a rate of 9 goals in 15 games… that’s a 50 goal pace. He can put the puck in the net.
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by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
I love the new play on his name:
Lebad = “The bad”
Maverlous!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
He’s definitely looking better (relative to how he looked early on). But it seems like his feet are too quick for his hands. It looks like he’s having trouble finishing on partial/full breakaways.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 8:44 AM EST up reply actions
It looks like he’s having trouble finishing on partial/full breakaways.
He wouldnt have the partial breakaways without the quickness so its kind of a chicken and egg argument
I’m still confused about whether we could move Komi to the Marlies, or is there something about his contract/age that prohibits this? I’ll be seriously pissed if we take a pass on Grabbo (especially with 24/7 next year) in order to retain overpriced 3rd liners and press box sitters.
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Komi has a Limited NMC/NTC, player supplies a trading list that can be modified each June 15
So i don’t believe he can be sent down
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We should all brace ourselves for the very real possibility that Komisarek is going to finish his contract off with Toronto.
No no, dig UP stupid.
I believe it. How the heck did we go from being a cap consious team to potentially not having the dough to resign our players. We need to trade 1 or both of Lombo and Connolly without taking back a ton of salary.
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Komi’s Salary this year and next – $3.5 mill
Komi’s Cap hit this year and next – $4.5 mill
So Burke may be able to send him to a team trying to reach the cap floor but save on Salary
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Ya, Leafs fans say this… seems like a pipe dream to me… unless we’re taking back a bad salary that has higher salary than cap hit (i.e. Blake for Giguere)
No no, dig UP stupid.
Habs fans are certain that cap floor teams are just lining up for that sweet gomez contract. lol! That is a pipe dream.
Ya everyone wants to lose their shitty overpaid players and keep their good cheap ones.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
being in Chicago and listening to all the “we need defense” and the ton o’ cap space they have I continue to hold out hope that Burke can unload Komi for a 19th round draft pick just to be gone with that contract.
I know he doesn’t offer too much in terms of D but he’s actually is better than 1 or 2 of the piles the hawks are currently employing
by WorldSeriesTiger on Feb 8, 2012 8:35 AM EST up reply actions
If there’s a buyout amnesty this summer I think Komi gets bought out. Otherwise you’re likely right.
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No way should this team lose a player like Grabovski in order retain a player like Komisarek or Armstrong.
Its not a matter of losing him because they are retaining those players, its a matter of losing him because they couldn’t move the contracts.
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i am confident if Burke reaaaaaally wants to keep grabbo, he will move the salary
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
So does us beating Philly depend on which version of Philly goaltenders shows up, or do you guys think we can win even if they actually play good. I’m still having Jagr breakaway nightmares.
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LOL on the Nabokov Dig on "12 Big Names..."
Evgeni Nabokov, New York Islanders – There are always plenty of teams out there looking to acquire an elite starting goaltender, so you have to figure that somebody will end up having to settle for Nabokov instead.
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Welp. looks like i'm going to have to go to michigan for new years now.
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This might make Christmas and New Years with the in-laws in Grosse Pointe bearable…
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by Chi-town leafs on Feb 8, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
Parents going to florida, they should drive so they can drop me off in michigan with my hockey bag, 4 24’s, a flask of rum and a Leafs Jersey, I’ll figure the rest out later.
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they can drop me off in michigan with my hockey bag
Are you expecting to get called in to play in the Winter Classic when there is an injury and they need an emergency goalie/player?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
Don’t forget the Leafer/birky barnfight.
We’re gonna PPV that shit.
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I wont be going
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BAWK! BAWK BAWK BAWK!
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by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dont have the money to go, oh well.
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getting married this summer, I wont have much of a disposable income.
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put it on your registry
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by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I put Leafs tickets on it for mine.
make it the theme,
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2 – Via Tickets to Windsor
1 – Car Rental
2 – Tickets to Leafs/Red Wings Alumni game
2 – Tickets to Leaf/Red Wings Outdoor game
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Is it seriously going to be $400 per ticket?
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
Ya that’s just the rumoured figure that stood out to me yesterday, I have no idea.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
maybe 400 dollar average, but there is no way nose bleeds go for more then 100 bucks
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Figures talked about on Detroit Sports radio put the tickets between $400 and $1200. Take that with a grain of salt, as I have no idea where they got that figure from.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
fucccck that, 110,000 people are going to be there, and if the cheapest ticket is 400$ face value, then the Detroit government is using this to solely pull them out of the shit hole they are in
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Ya that’s just the rumoured figure that stood out to me yesterday, I have no idea.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
That number came from the local sports talk radio station here in Detroit.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Also
That’s the price on the secondary market. Just get all of your relatives to enter the lottery like everyone else here is going to do and get tickets that way. I’ll teach my grandmother how to use a computer if I have to.
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I’ll teach your grandmother to suck eggs!
by Nigel Cadbury on Feb 8, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
Ren & Stimpy’d
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 8, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
Our shinny game will have a three drink minimum.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 8, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
WC talk gets me all excited
WOOOOO!
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Jokes on me, I’m already here.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
I’m come to the realization that living in Detroit is like living in a zombie apocalypse.
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Living in Detroit proper is. Boy, even though I work in Detroit and spend considerable time here, some sites never cease to amaze/sadden me.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
I’m probably out. My one attempt to show up will be if I can fly to Chicago and ditch the wife there.
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I would personally drive from Toledo to Chicago to pick you up and take you to AA.
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That might have to be the plan.
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O’hare is a pain in the ass….people get lost all the time
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My wife’s family is in Chicago. I fly into Midway.
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oh well….it’s windy there, book a flight to o’hare and tell her the wind blew the plan to a different airport
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Chicago is called the windy city because of its blustering politicians.
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“Who wants to fly to the Windy City?”
Pilots look up
“Conditions are a little windy”
Pilots look down
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by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
You flyboys crack me up!
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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 8, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
I never understood this. There’s pretty much one road that takes you out of the airport.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve only been there on a layover, I think the thing was about the layout of the terminals
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Definitely big but as with any airport I go to, I just keep a suave look on my face and pretend like I know exactly where I’m going while faking that I’m tending to business on my blackberry. I eventually get to where I want to go. If I get lost and end up say, in a janitors closet when I was looking for a shuttle to the rental car lot, I blame it on having been too distracted by business emails and calls on the BB.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely big but as with any airport I go to, I just keep a suave look on my face and pretend like I know exactly where I’m going while faking that I’m tending to business on my blackberry. I eventually get to where I want to go. If I get lost and end up say, in a janitors closet when I was looking for a shuttle to the rental car lot, I blame it on having been too distracted by business emails and calls on the BB.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely big but as with any airport I go to, I just keep a suave look on my face and pretend like I know exactly where I’m going while faking that I’m tending to business on my blackberry. I eventually get to where I want to go. If I get lost and end up say, in a janitors closet when I was looking for a shuttle to the rental car lot, I blame it on having been too distracted by business emails and calls on the BB.
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Definitely big but as with any airport I go to, I just keep a suave look on my face and pretend like I know exactly where I’m going while faking that I’m tending to business on my blackberry. I eventually get to where I want to go. If I get lost and end up say, in a janitors closet when I was looking for a shuttle to the rental car lot, I blame it on having been too distracted by business emails and calls on the BB.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 8, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Aahhh! it’s happening! I had a nightmare last night where all of my post on PPP began repeating uncontrollably under other users sn!
Save us, Aquaman!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
told you that you were going to try!
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
It’s TDSB day so lots of field trips to a hockey game
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Seems to be popular now to have a mid day game for field trips. the Majors did it too this year.
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especially when a brawl breaks out, the more whiny parents not so much
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Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1
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Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
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I was in the TDSB until 2005, is this TDSB day a new thing?
RE-SIGN GRABBO
by Chris Stoikoff on Feb 8, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Why would you trade Connolly at the deadline for peanuts?
Not many teams will take on that contract right now.
Keeping Connolly doesn’t impact the Leafs’ ability to re-sign Grabovski for next season.
Having Connolly for the stretch and playoffs gives us 3 good centres down the middle.
Keep Connolly in the middle, re-sign Grabbo, move Connolly in the offseason.
Cynically Sarcastic
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move Connolly in the offseason.
I think that’d be more difficult than moving him at the deadline. Teams have injuries right now, but in the off-season those players will heal up and take their spots back.
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We’re really hitting the point where we just have to trust that Burke knows best for how to manage this Grabovski / cap situation.
No no, dig UP stupid.
When has that ever stopped rampant speculation?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Teams have budget issues and can’t add a player at a pro-rated 4.7M.
Teams have cap issues and can’t add a player at a pro-rated 4.7M.
Trading Connolly creates a hole at centre on the Leafs.
Teams with a need for a centre like Connolly are at the bottom of the standings and won’t be taking on a player like him at the deadline.
I think the number of available trading partners becomes much higher in the offseason when teams have the ability to make more decisions about their roster. I still don’t know if Connolly fetches much more than now, but I think the number of teams that can potentially acquire him is a lot higher.
Cynically Sarcastic
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Trading Connolly creates a hole at centre on the Leafs.
Lombardi back to C? This one i’m not that worried about, I think we’ve got a few guys who could if needed fill the 3c.
Not OPTIMAL 3Cs of course.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
If those players are untradeable making resigning Grabbo difficult, is it unthinkable for Burke to waive Lombardi or another player?
is it unthinkable for Burke to waive Lombardi or another player
I think he’d waive a 4th liner but hopes of burying Armstrong/Lombardi are a bit far fetched IMO.
He’d probably try every other avenue first. I imagine he did the same for Orr. Likely begged other GMs to take him.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
I think it is unthinkable that he gets waived just because of his recovery. It just seems to go against everything that is Burke.
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Burke sent Finger to the minors because he was awful. Lombardi may be overpaid for the role he’s playing right now, but his speed is useful on offence and he’s been an effective penalty killer. You don’t send guys who play their role well to the AHL just because you don’t like their contract.
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Burke doesn’t. Orr took him a long time and Lebda he traded for expensive Lombardi and Franson. Other GMs are less considerate Souray, Redden..
Souray was giving the team shit too so they probably didn’t mind being a dick. Redden’s and Lombardi’s contracts are miles apart.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
But why weaken our team now for this years run?
We have 4 players who are expensive and expendable. 3 of them are UFA’s after next year. I think we can find a taker in the offseason for at least one. Oh and did I mention those 3 also don’t have NMC so worst case scenario we have to bury someone.
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I'm not completely sure on these rules
but it is possible that if the contract is in the ballpark of the $5M x 5 being thrown around… that “tagging room” could be an issue?
i.e. can’t commit more than the current cap in contracts for next season… this issue came up when Toews/Kane were being re-signed during the cap hell offseason of the blackhawks
No no, dig UP stupid.
Leafs have $51M committed to next season. They’re fine.
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Any word on the cap increasing for next year? would that give the Leafs another 1-2 mill to play with?
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i think its going to decrease.. i may be wrong though
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
The tagging room rules let you go 10% above the cap.
I’m not seeing the problem here.
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After re-signing Grabbo we have ~8M leftover for the summer. Not a lot to work with. Oh plus Kulie gets re-signed, and while it will be low it will still be 2-3M.
Grabovski, Franson, Kulemin, Gustavsson
by ShahofToronto on Feb 8, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
Oh boy I can’t wait for the “Should we re-sign Gustavsson” debate.
I hope it gets pushed to the offseason, after the HOW FAR ARE WE GOING TO GO IN THE PLAYOFFS debate
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
I can’t say I’d have much problem with it right now. He still gives up cheap goals too regularly, but he’s 16-11-1 with a .909 SV%. That’s fine for a backup.
I’d rather they pawn him off on edmonton
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
1 year 1.2
Small commitment and he gets a chance to prove to us that this year is the real Gus not the last 2.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
I think the equally important consideration is making space for the kids. You need to start getting them into the NHL lineup eventually.
http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com
we have to find some way to offload one of our bad contracts, me thinks.
by Goosemonster on Feb 8, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
dammit Montreal, hurry up and hire JFJ already!
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Yeah, cuz the buffoons that are already there don’t take on bad contracts… wait…
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by Curt S on Feb 8, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
YOu can go 10% above the salary cap during the offseason. Burke has until September to figure out how to get the Leafs under the cap.
This is not a Chicago situation where there is literally no money available to re-sign anybody.
WAYFO?
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What if we were to just send Armstrong to the Marlies and move Lombardi for nothing / send him to the AHL.
Boom, cap space.
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Pretty sure it was that Prospal extension that blew up the internets
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
It is somewhat hard to imagine Scott Howson is still being allowed to make those kinds of decisions.
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Dear fans,
Yes we traded away Rick Nash and Jeff Carter, but fear not. We re-signed Vinny Prospal for next season. You can all proceed with your Prospal 22 jerseys.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 8, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Olllllllllllllddd maannnnnnnnnnnn rivveeeeerrrr
#amidoingitright?
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by Nifty Mittens on Feb 8, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone ever see that community episode where Brita’s hippie boyfriend “micro-nipples” refers to Pierce (Chevy Chase) as “old-man winter”??? Geesh, my sides were splitting that whole episode. Really astonishing to see how terribly Chevy aged.
/imisscommunity
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
sorry, that should be “old-man river” not “old man winter”.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
A)Hey Hi Hello
B) name was Vaughn
C) was it the one Britta was with Vaughn or the one where Pierce joined Vaughn band
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I think it was actually the one where Annie starts dating Vaughn because he makes the remark about Pierce and you know there’s already some history there (from the episode before where Pierce joins the band).
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
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by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 11:56 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
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by Bower Power on Feb 8, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
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No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Shit I missed a chance to use the 8000% meme there
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
I’m 8000% pissed off at you.
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by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Longish note following up on the Gardiner for Calder piece by BCP
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I think the Jake Gardiner for Calder opportunity needs a rethink by Leaf fans – followed by a more concerted push -as noted by the Blue Chip Prospect link. There are years when the Calder is wide open, and this is one of those years. There is just no obvious, or even half-way obvious, winner. And the Leafs, as we all know, have not been very well rewarded in these categories over the years. So…. we’re due.
Here’s the deal. The other rookies out there this year, while showing potential, and yes, we’d love to have them, are, in fact, not producing great years. But this is not a year with a rookie like Malkin or Kane or Ovechkin. In fact, we may see no one break 50 points. It’s more like the years when people like Ryder led the rookie scoring a decade ago.
And when you take a close look at the other Top Dozen candidates, it’s important to note that – even though most of them are getting the much lighter job of playing forward – and even though some are young and sexy – none are knocking it out of the ballpark. And even more important, almost all of them are sagging in the second half, whereas Gardiner is surging.
1. Take RNH. Great kid. Still only has 35 points. Playing with some talented wingers, so that helps. But let’s tell the truth on two things. 1st off, the kid only has 17 Even Strength points. That’s it. So 18 of his points are PP. Plus… he’s injured. Again. So. Do 17 ES points a Calder winner make? Nope. But Edmonton is hyping him, for their own reasons. And I think sometimes in Toronto e buy the hype out of other towns, while cutting our own kid short. Let’s look at a few more candidates.
2. Henrique on the Devils. 34 points. Not spectacular. Plus… And he’s playing with… Kovalchuk and Parise. Holy shit. Think you could pick up some points playing with those two? And let’s be serious. The kid never had more than 7 points in the OHL, even as a 20 year old, and then 50 in the AHL. His scoring is obviously pretty massively affected by who he’s with. Also, no points in his last 6 games.
3. Read on the Flyers. He’s got 32 points. But he’s 25. He has the most even strength points amongst rookies, at just 22. He also takes face-offs. 233 of them. With a 40% winning percentage. And 1 point in 7 games.
4. Landeskog on Colorado. Only 28 points in all, just 20 at ES. And if I may, just so we don’t get too too excited about 20 ES points, I’d note that Matt Frattin had 10, in less than HALF the ES ice-time of Landeskog. That is, Frattin scored more at ES per minute than Landeskog.
5. Hodgson on the Canucks. 30 points. But 10 on the PP. So only 20 at ES. (And 20 ES points would, for an absolute comparison, rank you #126 in the NHL.)
6. Greening on Ottawa. Only 27 points in all, 20 at ES, just 3 in his last 11, and -7 overall.
7. Couturier. Only 20 points total in 49 games, just 1 in his last 7.
As a reminder, remember that Gardiner has 17 points, playing Defense, at just age 21, with only 3 points coming on the PP, he plays workhorse minutes, and as many minutes on the PK as on the PP.
But…. the #1 reason we need to look ahead and start banging the drum for this kid… he’s on a tear. Not sagging. Has 7 points in his last 9 games, and if you watch him, he’s more and more… and more…. involved in the offense. Gaining confidence.
I’d say the real contenders for the Calder are on the blueline, actually. And nope, it’s not Pylon 8. Cowen in Ottawa or 9. Diaz in Montreal (who is 26) or that 10. Gragnani guy in Buffalo (who’ll be 25 soon.) (Or Rundblad or Gudbranson.)
It’s 11. Adam Larsson in NJ. His points are just behind Jake’s (16) and he’s younger. And he also plays big minutes. But:
A) He’s tailing off badly, with just 3 points in his last 16 games, after 13 in his first 32.
B) And he’s a -6 versus Jake’s +9. A pretty massive 15 points in plus/minus.
C) Jake is playing way more minutes on the PK, like 1:30 more per game.
So.
1st. Beyond the hype machine, there are no obvious Calder type winners out there this year. With RNH going down, it’s open. 2nd. When you take even a cursory look at how people are scoring, you quickly turn away from this year’s forward crop. Some nice players, but none with even 23 ES points? Weak. 3rd. Other teams are smart enough to beat the drum for their kid. They’re trying hard to sell hockey in tight markets, or save a GM’s ass. 4th. Jake Gardiner is revving his engines. i.e. Going on a tear, not sagging. And that could make him a stronger candidate as the weeks pass.
The main problem? HE PLAYS IN TORONTO AND THIS IS WHAT WE DO TO OUR SUCCESS STORIES.
I’ve watched this shit for decades. But right now? Every single mistake the kid makes, we’re on like hawks. We SEE it, COMMENT on it, WORRY about it. Even when he recovers, we say, “Thank God he can skate – because what a fucking mistake.” Except, hello…. skating? He’s not a Coffey or an ORR, but great skating has redeemed a lot of other defencemen over the years. Being a great skater should be a point in his favour, not a negative. And sure, he throws brain cramps, gets hemmed in sometimes, etc. But can you think of a rookie defenceman in the NHL who doesn’t?
More to the point, can you think of a Toronto Maple Leaf team in recent years which didn’t struggle a bit in its own end?
And we also have a very very competitive blueline this year, and people have been at cross-interests - feeling that another kid they like won’t get as much time if Gardiner is seen to do well. Like…. ohhhhh… Luke Schenn. And that makes it tough. We argue and say, but Luke’s only 22! Don’t give up on him! Which may be a completely viable argument.
But I think we need to keep these issues separate a bit. Gardiner could win the Calder. And maybe, depending on these next weeks, believe it or not Leaf fans…. maybe he should.
He’s 21. Straight into the NHL. +9. Got 7 points in his last 9 games. 20 minutes plus per game. Beautiful puck-moving defenseman. Rare as anything in the league. With that skating, he looks like he could get 40-50 points a year, and play for 20 years.
And get this. He never whines. Never seems to lose his composure on the ice. He never mouths off to the press. Never got bitter when sent to the press box or the AHL.
Gardiner for the Calder.
Go check out the Blue Chip Prospect link for more.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:15 PM EST reply actions 9 recs
The kid never had more than 7 points in the OHL
That has to be the greatest pick ever made.
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Sorry
Should be 77.
I got that 8000% wrong.
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by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t disagree, but I also think NHL awards care as much or more for the storylines than they do for the most deserving player. Malhotra didn’t win Selke, and I doubt people both with ES splits or compensate for PP time.
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as much or more for the storylines
Aren’t most of them voted by Hockey Writers?
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I think Gardiner will have to get above the 30 point plateau to get consideration and probably a Leafs playoff birth.
Leafs should make the play-offs…. and he should get North of 25 points.
I just think we need to start talking about this kid more.
Writers will listen. It’ll catch fire as they begin to think about it.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
If we’re going to start campaigns…
GRABBO FOR EVERYTHING!
Paedophiles are using an area of internet the size of Ireland.
if Tyler Myers can win the Vezina I don’t see why Grabbo can’t win the Calder
Fuck Kerry Fraser
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by SlickWill on Feb 8, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
it’s science. You can’t argue with science.
Fuck Kerry Fraser
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Unless you’re last year’s Cup-winning starter goalie.
by LeafInVancouver on Feb 8, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Before I even got through scrolling to the bottom of your post, I knew who it was written by.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
and we know who it wasn’t written by as well
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FLYRe RBOB?
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by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Norm Ullman
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by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Norm Ullman
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by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Norm Ullman
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Norman Ullman
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Who was #3 in all-time NHL scorers when he left for the WHA. Ahead of the Richards and Hulls and Mahovolichs and the whole damned lot.
#3. And over 400 of those points with the Leafs.
And nobody even knows him today.
Norm. Goddamn. Ullman. ;-)
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
The Big M was leaving town one way or another. The mix of players coming and going had very little to do with it.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
Good kid. Late round pick by Detroit.
Maaaaan, they got good scouts. I woulda gone with Charlie.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Gimme Adam Banks. If he wouldn’t have messed up his wrist, he would have been something special!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
1. Take RNH. Great kid. Still only has 35 points. Playing with some talented wingers, so that helps. But let’s tell the truth on two things. 1st off, the kid only has 17 Even Strength points. That’s it. So 18 of his points are PP. Plus… he’s injured. Again. So. Do 17 ES points a Calder winner make? Nope. But Edmonton is hyping him, for their own reasons. And I think sometimes in Toronto e buy the hype out of other towns, while cutting our own kid short. Let’s look at a few more candidates.
But according to some dumbass from Sportsnet on Twitter, RNH is on a Hall of Fame track, unlike any Toronto player. So, advantage: RNH.
haha that was great, you and PPP should go bash him some more.
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
The one other thing I wanted to point out before he let the subject die was that, according to his PPG as an 18-year-old, RNH tracks to be better than Hall-of-Famers Brian Bellows and Bobby Carpenter, but not quite as good as Hall-of-Famers Jimmy Carson and Dan Quinn.
The next Dan Quinn.
I like it.
That’s the tag.
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by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
haha i don’t even know who those players are! (i think that’s your point) But why the fuck is a real sports journalist bringing up something SO subjective? I know, I know they are all dumb, but why are they all dumb? Every single one of us, including the ones that don’t blog, could do a better job then 95% of these numskulls
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
After reading that, I have to say this
I think 9 games is too small of a sample size to determine if he’s turning the corner or not. Is it encouraging? Hell yeah, it is! I agree with you that there aren’t any obvious frontrunners for the Calder aside from RNH (who has been battling injuries).
Now, one thing that would decrease Gardiner’s Calder chances significantly – The narrative. Right now, he isn’t part of the Calder Trophy narrative. The four names I keep hearing are RNH, Henrique, Read, and Landeskog. Until Gardiner is included in that mix, he stands a slim chance of even being in the top 3.
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I think we’re developing that narrative, right here, right now. [Cue: Jesus Jones.]
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
RIGHT … Here and Now [Cue: Delicious Clear Pepsi for all]
"These balloons aren't going to stay filled till New Year's!"
"Those aren't for New Year's... those are my everyday balloons."
by Isosceles Kramer on Feb 8, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Holiday Spice Pepsi > Crystal Pepsi
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Is that a thing? What is it, like mulled cider pepsi?
"These balloons aren't going to stay filled till New Year's!"
"Those aren't for New Year's... those are my everyday balloons."
by Isosceles Kramer on Feb 8, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
it was a “limited edition” a few years back. wasn’t bad, tasted like cinnamon hearts, but not an everyday drink.
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That smells like late 80s or early 90s to me
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"Those aren't for New Year's... those are my everyday balloons."
by Isosceles Kramer on Feb 8, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
2005, 2006 I think
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Yeah, I remember drinking it. It was okay, I guess.
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Shit was the crystal meth of its time.
Got so hooked, had to sell my trailer.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
How many Calder winners get scratched multiple times in their Calder winning season?
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
I mention “Leaf Fans, Irrationally Dumping On Leaf Players” – and so soon after, a quality contribution!
For starters, he’s 21. More importantly, he weighs 173 pounds. Repeat that to yourself, quietly. 173 pounds. And he’s never played more than 51 games before – in any season. And as a defenceman, he takes a bit of wear and tear. They play longer minutes, and usually, with more hitting and critically – being hit – as part of their game.
Disqualify him because of that? Maybe give it to Landeskog? He who gets fewer ES points per minute than Frattin? Or how about the hard-slogging RNH? Who gets all his points on the PP? Oh yeah. He’s injured. Cause he’s a little guy.
That weighs… 175.
Jesus.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I wasn’t trying to argue that he shouldn’t get it but was trying to point out why he won’t get it.
You made strong arguments, I just don’t think he has a chance.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
I guess I just figure Leaf fans should be pumping up the volume for him a bit. Then maybe a Mirtle or someone asks Ron Wilson what he thinks of Jake… or some Leaf players…. gets a bit of coverage….
Then… who knows? Maybe it takes off!
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
This would make an amazing fanpost. What a comment!
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Greg Scott! That was a fine move by Kessel to score his 100th goal of the season.
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Toronto Maple Leafs Fan Cheering Guide - February 8th
We aren’t catching Boston and Buffalo aren’t catching us. Cheer on the meteor.
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Fuck Boston.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 8, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Charbola.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Lucibola.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Thibola.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Marchabola.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
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We can’t even pay our bills, and they’re drinking Royal Crown Cola
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Just realized today
that there’s 8 game stretch, 6 road games in March from 6th to 19th vs tough Eastern Conference teams that will define this season. Really tough stretch for the team.
March 6th- Boston Bruins
7th- @ Pittsburgh Penguins
10th- Philadelphia Flyers
11th- @ Washington Capitals
13th- @ Florida Panthers
15th- @ Tampa Bay Lightning
17th- @ Ottawa Senators
19th- @ Boston Bruins
Need to bank points now ‘cause we’re losing a lot of those fucking games
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Leafs can take points from most of those games. With the pace their on now a couple of those losses wont be too devastating.
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Speak for yourself: Every loss is devastating to me.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty much
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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I went to bed before the 3rd.
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it was late, I have a cold, my shoulder went wonky on me again
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
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I’m starting to think that the reason the Leafs lost last night is because you went to sleep. You gotta believe man (if I had access to youtube at work I would link to that one scene from Santa Claus where Santa’s sleigh gets off and running on happy Christmas thoughts)!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Feb 8, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
haha that is weird man! Did you buy it from Meadowvale town centre 17 years ago?
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
I think PKA’s cat just goes over to your place, then vice versa. It’s tough double-shifting as a cat.
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by Bower Power on Feb 8, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If we can’t pick up points against PIT, WSH, FLA, TBL, and OTT we don’t deserve to go to the playoffs. The hard games there are two against Boston and one against Philly.
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I would say Pitt as well… especially considering Staal should be back then as well and maybe even he who is always talked about (long shot)
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OOOOOOOHHHHH JORDAN STAAL
CANCEL THE SEASON BOYS, JORDAN STAAL IS BACK
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by Chemmy on Feb 8, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 13 recs
He does make Pitt a tougher team to play against. Its not like I’m saying some 4th line scrub will be back.
I don’t think Staal makes them unbeatable just makes the game not so easy. We took 3 points from them last week but it will be tougher with Staal there.
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Is Phil Kessel going to feel bad about skating around an injury prone pylon?
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It’s funny because before this recent injury history, he was the NHL’s next Ironman
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
I would like Jordan Staal on our team.
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I would like Shea Weber on our team
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
hell, I’d take team USA
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
the Stanley cup has no flag
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
But if you flip it over, it says made in China.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 8, 2012 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
11th- @ Washington Capitals
13th- @ Florida Panthers
15th- @ Tampa Bay Lightning
17th- @ Ottawa Senators
I think this stretch is passable. Can’t say the same against the Bruins, Penguins, and Flyers.
Also,
FUCK OTTAWA
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by Frag on Feb 8, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Though, excluding Tampa, we are the fourth best team out of four in that group
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by Frag on Feb 8, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Leafs picked up three points in 2 games against PIT last week and it probably should have been all four.
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It’s the second game of a back-to-back
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And Pitt should be getting healthier with Staal… one assumed he’ll be back at some point in the next couple weeks
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Leafs won’t show up on the sixth. No problem.
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We need to win that game on the 11th at the Caps.
‘cause I’m going.
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If Leafs win their next two games, they can then play 50-50 hockey for the rest of the season and still hit 94 points.
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by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What do you guys think about trading Gus to a team that needs a goalie
TB, Columbus and Edmonton come to mind. Scrivens and or Juicy Boobs are ready to be a back up at cheaper then Gus
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 12:47 PM EST reply actions
Why would any of those teams who will not make the playoffs this year buy a goalie?
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
I dunno, it’s not like we would ask for that much
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, then why wouldn’t they just pick up a goalie on waivers like Burke did with Gerber?
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its just a thought so we have more cap room for Grabbo! like i said below, I guess it doesn’t matter if he walks on July 1st for nothing
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Than why bother trading him? he’s a better backup option for a playoff run than Scrivens. We aren’t going to get anything back in a trade worth anything more than he’s worth to us.
Asset management doesn’t just mean not losing someone for nothing it also means not letting go of assets for less value than what they bring to your team.
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I know, I realized that he could just walk a few minutes ago.
assetmanagement’d
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Excuse me, is there an Orange Julius around here?
You can buy this one, it’s almost full!
Well why don’t I drink out of a toilet?
He’ll be back.
Not followin' @JPNikota on Twitter? Oh, you better believe that's a paddlin'.
Maybe Gus stays for a bit longer, the goalie situation with reimer and gus is not clear cut. The leafs could have something going on like st louis where there are two #1 goalies.
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but Gus isn’t a number 1, Reimer is. The more games Reimer plays the better chance the Leafs have of winning
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
IT’S REIMER REIMER
GOTTA BE STARTIN REIMER
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by Chemmy on Feb 8, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Reimer is the number 1 in toronto and the future for the leafs, but the monster’s play in January certainly made a case for him to get some more starts. And the fact that he’s still really young gives him even more upside.
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I’m not saying he’s old he’s still got many years left but he called him really young which threw me for a loop. He’s still in his prime, but “really young” players to me are 23 and under.
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I agree. I didnt realize how old gustavsson is. ‘Really young’ applies more to reimer who is 23.
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yep agreed. My age brackets go
40+- Diapers
35-40 heres your walker gramps
30-35 old
25-30 prime
23-25 Fairly young
20-23 Really young
18-20 Diapers
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by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So when a player is 29 and then one day later turns 30 he goes from “prime” to “old”?
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dont knwo if serious….
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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It is a secret of the medical staff in hockey that at 30 we stop giving them “prime steroids” and switch to “old man pick me ups”.
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IMO Burke won't trade Gustavsson
And before we get to the “BUT WHAT IF HE GETS BLOWN AWAY BY AN OFFER” retort, no one is blowing down doors for Jonas fucking Gustavsson.
No no, dig UP stupid.
I don’t even want anything for him, It’s just that it will cost less to have Scrivens backing up then Gus. I guess I don’t care if he leaves July 1 then. would be nice to get something for him though
/assetmanegement’d
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
PPPPodcast related
Are you guys planning on making anymore? Or am I in for disappointment?
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by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 8, 2012 12:48 PM EST reply actions
Brian Hayes TSN1050
brought up yesterday that you can only win a SC if you have an elite centre like Crosby or Stamkos anchoring your top line. This was the inspiration for my Grabovski #1 centre post. It’s absolutely ridiculous to say you NEED a player like that. only 4 or 5 of them exist and I don’t see those 4-5 teams all tearing apart the playoffs, or the regular season for that matter.
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 12:52 PM EST reply actions
and Boston’s with Krecji… I even liked Hayes before that.
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Yes perfect just like last year when the Bruins won the Cup with elite center Patrice Bergeron.
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So you need an elite centre OR the best goalie in the game. More elite centres around.
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Chicago had neither
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Giggy was probably the best goaltender in the world during those playoffs
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
I’d argue, much like with Anaheim, their defense was the best part of their roster. Two strong blueliners, one solid checking line.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 8, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
a 100 point elite center? no
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
I am going by the standard set in the article
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
yup, it is, that is what we are making fun of
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
what article? Hayes said you need this “elite” centre to win the cup. I said that’s stupid, I didn’t set a standard as to whats called elite
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
“like Stamkos or Crosby”
IE a 50ish 100 pointish guy
since that is all Crosby and Stamkos really have in common
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
exactly, I’m talking about Hayes
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
oh okay. I got confused because he just said that on the radio. I just find it dumb that these guys are on the radio and still stay such wrong things
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
article, radio, whatever
this is totally not my fault for fucking up the medium by being to lazy to press the up button, not at all
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Toews was point per game and like half a goal a game. He was damn good.
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Good teams win the Cup.
Good teams have good players.
More often than not, a team’s best player is their #1 center.
I’m not seeing the amazing insight here.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
yeah but he’s saying you need a 100+ point centre man to win. Simply not the case.
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Cup Winners and their best centreman that year
2011 – Boston – Krejci – 62 pts
2010 – Chicago – Toews – 68pts
2009 – Pittsburgh – Malkin – 113pts
2008 – Detroit – Datsyuk – 97pts
2007 – Anaheim – MacDonald – 78pts
2006 – Carolina – Staal – 100pts
2004 – Tampa Bay – Richards – 79pts
2003 – New Jersey – Gomez – 55pts
2002 – Detroit – Fedorov – 68pts
2001 – Colorado – Sakic – 118pts
Seems like you need one just as often as you don’t need one.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
exactly, it obviously helps but a 100 point centre doesn’t a good team make
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
In this post I determined that the average point totals of the top 3 forwards on Stanley Cup winners between 2006-07 and 2010-11 were 93/79/63. Leafs actually will probably get near those totals this year with Kessel/Lupul/Grabbo.
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thats what I read
We will win the stanley cup this year.
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At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 8, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Pft, I wouldn’t forget to capitalise a proper noun like that.
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by Draglikepull on Feb 8, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The Leafs don’t have a problem scoring this season, but I’m also not sold Kessel & Lupul can repeat year after year.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
Kessel? sure
Lupul on the other hand….
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
The current stanley cup winners would like a word with him. Or Anaheim for that matter (Andy McDonald was their #1 C).
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that seems almost as tragic as when Gomez was Jersey’s #1C and they won the Cup for some reason
Fuck Kerry Fraser
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Andy McDonald was actually a pretty good hockey player in his prime. He was playing with Selanne but he has had (IIRC) 3 or 4 seasons above 0.80 PPG
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Bobby Mac leaking WC news on Twitter
Winter Classic on Jan. 1, 2013, will be DET-TOR at Univ of Michigan (The Big House) but it’s the only event being held there.
Outdoor rink at Comerica Park in downtown Detroit will be site of a weeklong Hockeytown Fan Fest, so to speak. Events there will include: Two GLI NCAA college games, Marlies vs Griffins AHL game and OHL doubleheader with PLY vs LDN and SAG vs WDR, plus high school/youth games. Marquee event for Comerica on Dec. 31 will be Legends/Alumni game between ex-Leafs and ex-Wings. Then it’s off to Big House on Jan. 1.
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i bet Alumni game tickets go for more than WC tickets since there are less than 1/2 the amount available
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Comerica Park sits about 42,000.
Citizen’s Bank Park sat 47,000. Alumni game prices were around $100.
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Leafs alumni is going to be ridiculous. I’d pay $100 to see them.
Just saying.
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FUCK IT. I’M GOING TO MICHIGAN.
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by Chemmy on Feb 8, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
DUDE THINK ABOUT THE ALUMNI GAME.
DOUGIE, WENDEL, SUNDIN, SALMING. POTVIN?
YZERMAN, HULL, ETC.
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THERE’S GOING TO BE A FIGHT
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CuJo or Belfour to play with Potvin.
Roberts may be in good enough shape to play too.
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
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May be? It’s Gary Roberts, he’s probably in good enough shape to slot into Crabbs spot.
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by AM18 on Feb 8, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Maybe? Pray he didn’t hear you say that.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 8, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
1) Kill passersby
2) Eat them for sustenance
3) Burn all of their clothing and possessions for warmth
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Makes me sense to burn them first.
That way, get warmth PLUS tasty BBQ goodness.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely a better turnout than they had in Hamilton, which was probably made up of people who could drive themselves to the game
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“Hey Mr. Leeman, we want to know if you want to play in the Hamilton Alumni game this year?”
Leeman turns to wife “Sweeeeeeeet, Honey, I get to fill out a T4 this year!”
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
I just re-checked PPP and there were 84 new comments……so I’m pretty sure that is a sign that we have to keep Grabbo
So what you’re saying is that you’re the one responsible for making it 85?
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by Bower Power on Feb 8, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I hadn’t seen this video before and wanted to share it: Phil Kessel attending the birthday party of a 4 year old cancer patient. Fuck the people who think this guy is an asshole because he’s shy and awkward.
http://www.chch.com/index.php/home/item/6866-leaf-kessel-makes-one-birthday-wish-come-true
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BTW
Marlies playing right now, 3-1 is the score.
Markers by Colborne, Hamilton, Wilson. Scrivens in net.
http://theahl.com/stats/official-game-report.php?game_id=1009345
No no, dig UP stupid.
Matt Frattin
Not gonna be kept on the farm.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Marlies have a shot of winning the Calder this year, they are, dare I say it, “scary good”
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
championships for everyone!
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by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Baby steps… let’s just get to playoffs.
There are a bunch of good AHL teams…including the Columbus Blue Jackets.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Also
Deschamps is looking like a pretty solid pickup for the Marlies.
Picked up 2 assists in the game today, now 11 points in 14 games with the Marlies. Good stuff.
No no, dig UP stupid.
yeah I @’d chansler a few days ago about him, he said he really liked him. Looking like a change of scenery did him well.
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Saw a tweet earlier and made me think
So a bunch of Marlies are RFA;s:
Rynnas
Frattin
Gysbers
Mueller
Mitchell
Aulie
Holzer
Lashoff
Scrivens
Mikus
Greenop
How many do you see the leafs walking away from?
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also
Ziggy, Hamilton, DUpuis and FInger are all UFA’s
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Finger, Dupuis, Mitchell, and Greenop are all gone 100% imo.
Gysbers Lashoff and Mikus are iffy but probably back
Ziggy and Hamilton I think will be offered contracts but will be up to the player if they want to stay.
Rynnas Scrivens Frattin Mueller Aulie Holzer Scrivens will all be tendered and retained.
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by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Scrivens gets 2 contracts! WOOOOO!
by holymackinaw on Feb 8, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I doubt the Leafs walk on Gysbers or Mikus
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
me too unless they sign college ufa dmen. They do need AHL dmen to play next year afterall. We don’t have any coming from junior I don’t believe soo
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Gysbers is 24 and one of the Marlies better D men, Mikus is 23 and has some very good potential, neither will be expensive and there are no over age D prospects bumping them
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Though the Leafs could bring Nilsson over if they feel like he’s ready.
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if he came over next year he’d be going to the CHL
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
possible
Marlies prospect based defense will probably shake up something like
Blacker – Gysbers
Aulie – Holzer
Mikus – ???
so there is room for Granberg, also Holzer and Blacker may very well be NHL ready next season. I also expect there to be at least one vet somewhere in the pot
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Granberg’s under contract in the SEL next season. We won’t see him until at least 2013-14.
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and there we have it
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Mikus should be back. He is actually pretty damn young. He just came over really early.
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I'd keep
Frattin
Mueller
Aulie
Holzer
Scrivens
and re-sign UFAs
Zigomanis
maybe Hamilton (AHL leadership or something, he is the captain)
I dunno about you guys… I’m not sure Mikus or Gypsers are ever making the big club.
No no, dig UP stupid.
And Rynnas?
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Honestly I don't know about Rynnas. Might have to see what they do with Gus.
If they keep Gustavsson, they can roll Scrivens/Owuya on the Marlies. Not sure if they want to keep rocking 3 goalies, 1 constantly going back between the ECHL. But I dunno, maybe Burke has an eye on another European UFA goalie?
As for Gypsers…
I dunno about you guys… I’m not sure Mikus or Gypsers are ever making the big club.
No no, dig UP stupid.
He made a typo. Whatever
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Rynnas won’t be let to just walk. At the very least he’ll be a throw in on a trade. He’s only 23 and has talent. Some team will want him.
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I want to see what Owuya can do in the near future, and looking beyond that Sparks too
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Lets not start talking about SParks yet
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Sparks is still 3 years out. Rynnas’ contract will have no bearing on Sparks’ position on the depth chart.
The Leafs have a couple options, and it almost entirely rides on their internal valuations of their goalies. They could not re-sign Gustavsson, move up Scrivens to a backup role, and give let Owuya and Rynnas fight it out on the Marlies. They could re-sign Gustavsson, and let Scrivens, Owuya, and Rynnas all fight it out, with the loser in Reading, or they could re-sign Gustavsson, let Rynnas walk, and split the Marlies starts between Scrivens and Rynnas.
We probably won’t know until July.
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Sparks will be in the pro ranks starting in the 2013-2014 season if he’s gunna stick with the org. Prolly ECHL to start like Reimer
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Exactly, thats a long while. He shouldnt be a real thought right now
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Frattin, Mueller, Aulie, Holzer, Scrivens are guarantees to be re-signed.
I’d say they are more likely than not to re-sign Gysbers, Mikus, Zigomanis and Hamilton.
I’d say Rynnas and MItchell are 50/50
Lashoff and Dupuis probably not.
Finger no way
Greenop hasn’t played in over a year due to concussions
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I just look at how many new contracts may be coming up to the Marlies next year… McKegg, Nicholls, Olden, Ross, etc.
Gotta let some of these guys who just aren’t developing in a reasonable timeframe go.
No no, dig UP stupid.
And they may not want him to stay with the Erie “7 wins” Otters
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7 wins or not, Sondre Olden’s stats don’t scream “pro ready”
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neither did McKeggs on that team…
Also Olden might not be a scorer at the next level anyways
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He might get a camp invite and see if he’s worth a contract (or AHL contract) at that point.
No no, dig UP stupid.
neither did McKeggs on that team
McKegg was good at the leafs camp tho, so there is a precedent there. Olden hasn’t proven a thing to anyone yet
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LOLWUT
McKegg was -39 with the Otters and was still point a game.
Olden has 20 points in 32 games.
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'sup

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Nice. I call this one “45 seconds of McKegg”
Staring at me for 15 seconds before a 15 second long fart.
He then maintains eye contact for an additional 15 seconds.
Intense.
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by Isosceles Kramer on Feb 8, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
so? Olden might not be a 100% offensive player like McKegg. Bottom line is McKeggs ppg has doubled with his new team whose to say Olden wouldn’t be at least ppg on a better team? And who’s to say that isn’t his offensive ceiling?
I always thought he’d be a 3rd line 2 way forward putting up 30pts a year.
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I always thought he’d be a 3rd line 2 way forward putting up 30pts a year.
The question is: why do you think this? At age 18 he put up 22 points in 33 games for J20 SEL. At 17 he put up 27 in 32 for J20. Now, he’s scoring below a PPG pace on an abysmal team – whose leading scorer went from PPG to 2 PPG when he was paired with actual talent.
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the (few) scouting reports I’ve read seem to indicate he’s not a natural scorer than someone like a McKegg is, but that he’s a smart hockey player. I’d love for him to score more than 30 a season but I don’t expect it from him.
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The only things I like about Olden is that he’s big and a C.
He was also marked as a project.
No no, dig UP stupid.
The NHL Equivalency for the OHL is somewhere between 0.35 and 0.4.
Olden’s scoring at 0.625 ppg in the O. That means over a full season he’d project to about 0.22 ppg in the NHL.
Or 18 points.
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How can you know this
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probably judging by McKeggs increased performance after leaving erie
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I’m reasonably certain Erie traded other players at the deadline and they didn’t immediately double their scoring production
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yeah.
Erie actually had some better games after the trade deadline, scored 14 goals in their only 2 wins since then
of course better games is a relative term for them
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Funny story
Marchese (F): 16 in 29, to Windsor, 14 in 16.
Brett Cook (D): 12 in 26, to London, 2 in 13.
Derek Holden (D): 9 in 34, to Windsor, 4 in 3.
Mike Cazzola (F): 9 in 12, to Ottawa, 17 in 10.
Brett Thompson (F): 7 in 9, to Sarnia, 44 in 34.
Greg McKegg (F): 34 in 35, to London, 24 in 13.
So yeah, the moral of the story is: GTFO Erie.
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coming back:
Dane Fox (F): 32 in 34 on London, 11 in 11.
Jimmy McDowell (D): 7 in 34 on Oshawa, 3 in 9.
Anthony Cortellessa (F): 2 in 31 on Windsor, 4 in 16.
Troy Donnay (D): 3 in 23 on London, 2 in 12.
So increases, possibly in part due to extra ice time, but definitely not as substantial an increase as Erie’s departures.
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And McKegg went from a 28-32 point season on the Otters to a 53-61 point season on the Knights.
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OHL overage season still counts against the 50 contract limit. Its not just open spaces but # of contracts we need to worry about.
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Dump: Mitchell, Lashoff, Greenop for sure.
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IMO
Keep Frattin, Gysbers, Mueller, Aulie, Scrivens, Mikus, Mitchell
See if you can flip Rynnas for a pick, if not, sign him.
Walk from Lashoff, Greenop
Dale Mitchell.
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I thought maybe you meant Kim Mitchell
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by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 8, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I might as well go for a soda….There’s too many Mitchell’s in this thread
by JohnerstonRex on Feb 8, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Gysbers
Mitchell (he doesn’t seem able to get a regular AHL job, let alone NHL job)
Lashoff (He may be kept as a vet AHL/NHL tweener, but my guess is he would rather be in a system where he could be a first call up. When injuries hit and a guy like Lebda (or Strahlman) get jobs he could have also)
Greenop (I don’t know much about him, so am prepared to be proven wrong).
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Gysbers is younger than I thought. So forget him.
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With the current situation on our D
plus Aulie, Holzer, Blacker (arguably) in front of him, plus Percy in a year or so, should the Marlies really keep hoping these guys end up being late bloomers a la Brent or Crabb?
I dunno. I wouldnt’ shed a tear if they walked for nothing. Rynnas either.
No no, dig UP stupid.
Why would we let either go without a viable replacement? especially Rynnas, he has struggled, but showed some pretty damned good promise
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
Percy isn’t here yet and we need guys on the farm. Mikus is a year younger than Holzer and is the same age as Gunnar’s first season. D-men also develop slower than forwards so I don’t know if Brent or Crabb are great comparisons.
Basically I don’t really see the need to let them go. Are we that close to the 50 person cap?
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We have to let a few go, that's for sure.
Quick headcount gets me Ross, Olden, McKegg, Nicholls, Crescenzi, so min 5 contracts have to go. Plus I’m assuming Burke will try dipping into a European UFA pool or an unsigned free agent pool.
No no, dig UP stupid.
Keep Rynnas! From all reports he moves well for a giant.
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Someone at the Goalie Guild live blog recommended loaning him to another AHL team.
From the Staff that covered that game:
I am ready to see the Leafs push Jussi Rynnas up the development ladder. I am kind of surprised he is down in the ECHL. But at least he’s playing. I think he has more potential than Reimer.
In reference to why he likes him:
Can’t answer that without writing an essay, but like you’ve seen, it’s his size/athleticism/quickness combo. He is capable of being dynamic, I think he can evolve into a goalie that is way more situationally aware. And he’s a bull. Kind of like Niemi, a very low center of gravity, so when he seals the ice, the ice is SEALED. Not going to push him around. He has the potential to be a very “square” goalie to pucks and shooters. Just love his upside a lot. It’s certainly partially due to personal bias. I love Finnish goalies for many different reasons.
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by Redonred on Feb 8, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Via Chansler
Three goals in two games for Matty Fratty. #letsgomarlies
I dont know about that name….
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Tim Thomas is fucking crazy
https://www.facebook.com/TimThomasOfficialPage/posts/324229287619485
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I’m not sure that a public figure like Tim Thomas should be saying stuff like this. Although I don’t completely understand his point.
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
wow
what exactly do Catholics not have in the US? the right to prevent everyone from getting abortions? the right to force public schools to teach kids about creationism? the right to openly discriminate against people without retribution? i dont’ get it.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 8, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
GAYS HAVE TO BE TREATED EQUALLY IN THE EYES OF THE LAW? STOP OPPRESSING ME!
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I liked that page so I can be kept informed, man why is no one else telling me these things?
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Because all of our information is being controlled by the Jew-run liberal media.
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See?
You Go Tim! And people posting comment should learn few a things before talking and be more critical about what TV and news papers say…
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A democratic masshole isn’t too far behind
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Tim, it is refreshing to see an athlete be so informed. Although I completely disagree with your pov on this post, continue being up to date with your issues. Thank goodness this country is still one where it is okay to agree to disagree!
Terrific quote and is timely bec this is happening all over the world and very well could happen here! Religious freedom is one of the things this country was founded on and we’ve certainly gotten away from the Constitution which is very scary. Fascism has no place here but people better be watching out for their freedom at all times!!
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That second comment is bang-on.
Life, liberty and the pursuit of discrimination of others is right there in the Constitution.
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Fucking fascists, forcing my government to treat individuals equally.
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odds on me posting a comment asking if anyone actually knows what fascists means and getting OBAMA!!1 back as the first answer?
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does this person realize that while religious freedom IS one of the founding principles of the constitution the phrases ‘one nation under god’ and ‘in god we trust’ were added to the pledge and money, respectively, in the 1950s in response to paranoid fears of communism?
the freedom of religious is a beautiful thing. you want to go pray to some 8-eyed bowl of spaghetti, be my guest. just don’t use the government/courts to force others to live their lives according to your beliefs.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 8, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Does the bowl have 8 eyes or the spaghetti?
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my uncle gets a bit crazy, my cousin posted a youtube video of a soldier medal ceremony and he want off about the low view count and how no one sees these and the liberal media etc…
I explained to him youtube is 90% about teenagers posting emo video blogs, and kittens being adorable.
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by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Twitter is hilarious right now
one of my favorites.
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Tim Thomas, it is not the Dept. of Player Safety’s responsibility to protect you from religious persecution. Sorry.
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 1:57 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
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Back to hockey
JP, if you’re here, when you looked into the Leafs back to back games did they have more then other teams? It seems like every other week the Leafs are in a back to back. I also remember that you looked into it and about half of them didn’t need to happen
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That would be me
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2012/1/18/2713888/unnecessary-back-to-backs
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I’m really upset that apparently no one clicked thru on the link to Mirtle’s article.
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by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 2:42 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
/slow clap
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Same here.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 8, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
clicked it in class with sound on
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Feb 8, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
You were born in Winnipeg, weren’t you?
by LeafInVancouver on Feb 8, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Via the Sportsnet website
“Do a graphic for any year — the math doesn’t work,” Burke tells USA Today. “Fourteen to 16 teams add players. Prices are inflated, and there is one Stanley Cup parade at the end of the season. The trade deadline is a pit of quicksand.”
Personally I’m comfortable going into the home stretch with what we have right now if the price is not right for a trade. The chemistry is good and everyone on the roster has a defined role. I really want to see this core group galvanize themselves as a unit and play for each other down to the wire.
I agree – I hate trade deadline ‘buying’… Burke seems more like a long-term trader. If he does something, it’s probably more that he thinks it will help us next year and not just this season.
Fuck that
TRADE ALL THE PLAYERZ!
N GET BRAND NEW ONEZ!!!
N WIN TEH CUPZ~~~!!!1
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by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
BOS did a pretty good job adding depth for not crazy prices (except Kaberle)
Peverley, Boyes, Kelly, etc.
No no, dig UP stupid.
Boyes went to Buffalo
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Ya I was hoping no one would bust me on that, I remembered it like 20 minutes after i posted this
No no, dig UP stupid.
Burke wants to make the playoffs. If he can’t add the top forward he wants, he’ll probably keep the current group together and make his move(s) this summer.
The only spot I really expect to change would be Crabb’s 3rd line job.
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Right. Joey Crabb is awful on the 3rd line
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please don’t be Moen
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
nah. That line needs someone with a little more scoring touch.
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8 goals in 43 games is good 3rd line production. If we need someone who plays more of a skill game, call up Kadri and send down Crabb. There’s nothing available for our 3rd line in the trade market that we don’t already have internally.
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Agree 100%.
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Frattin is earning that call up
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
I dont see him being called up tho.
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for a 3rd line winger slot for a playoff push over kadri the way both are playing right now? I do
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Not unless someone gets hurt. Wilson likes Crabb, at least it appears as such
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Crabb has three goals since 11/27. Connolly has one goal since 12/13.
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Joey Crabb- fun nickname, not very good at hockey
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We’re assuming that Connolly, who has been a good player for several years now, has suddenly just forgotten how to score goals in the NHL?
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Connolly’s career high in goals is 18 (in 48 games)
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Comparison:
Rob Niedermayer once scored 26 goals in a season.
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I’m assuming the price for a 3rd line rental would be acceptable and could help get more balanced scoring.
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More than who? Lombardi? Connolly? Kadri? Who would be available at a decent cost (say, a mid-round draft pick) that is better offensively than those players?
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i dont think any one of those except maybe boyes could be had for a mid round pick, if a 3rd is considered a mid round pick
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
He should be worth a third, but the trade deadline is stupid time so he’ll probably be worth more.
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Just spitballing upcoming UFAs who dont get tossed in trade rumours much.
I dont know what they’d cost….
No no, dig UP stupid.
Boyes is an interesting name. Bad year could deflate his cost enough. He only cost a 2nd last year.
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Boyes has been having bad years for 4 years
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
Not as bad as you’d think. His last 5 years:
GP G Pts
82 43 65
82 33 72
82 14 42 Bad year
83 17 55 (Solid not spectacular year)
39 3 13 (terrible year)
In his last 3 years (not 4) he has had one good year, one bad, and is now on a terrible year.
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ah, I totally read the split between the Blues and Sabres as two different years
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah a lot of people think he has had really bad years recently. When reality the bad years just looked so bad in comparison to his great ones 4 years ago.
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he’s had a heavy dose of knee injuries lately though, still wouldn’t pay much to take that risk
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
He only cost a second last year IIRC. After this year and his contract if we can have him for less I’d probably do it (not as a first choice, but as a stocking up move).
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the Leafs arnt good enough where a guy you can get for a 2nd or less (who isnt an ok back up goalie) will make any sort of difference worth noting.
I’d rather keep all our long shot lottery picks
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
I think I just like trades to much. They’re fun.
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I like block buster Phaneuf style trades
we need one of those
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
Damn right.
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The Habs need to hire JFJ. Then we can do Price for Steckel, Army, and Komisarek. Clearly that will give them the size they need to no longer be the dwarf Habs or something like that.
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I’d rather have Joey Crabb than Boyes.
Whitney, Hejduk and Koivu aren’t moving.
Kostistyn would be pretty interesting, and assuming their history is in fact buried, Toronto poaching Grabovski and Kostitsyn from Montreal would be beyond hilarious.
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Ya I was literally just knocking off names from Capgeek.
Not saying Leafs would or should be interested at all – but you dont think ANA would try to get something for Saku? ANA isn’t seeing playoffs.
No no, dig UP stupid.
Pretty sure they’re young enough that MIN and COL will try to re-sign them rather than trade them.
No no, dig UP stupid.
I think Jones might be let go with all the players COL need to resign. And I agree Brodziak will get resigned for a raise – great caphit this year.
Given recent Leafs/Colorado trade history, I think we could get Jones for a 7th. And they take Komi back.
No no, dig UP stupid.
wait a second… you’re on to something!
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
Leafs can take on a contract up to $7million in full value at the deadline. So, someone with an expiring contract that wouldn’t impact the Leafs cap going forward into the summer.
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the fraud just put up a post saying Penner
ugh
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
David Jones? Dater said the Avs could move him. Samuelsson from Florida? Injured a chunk of the year, but healthy now.
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Holy shit, David Jones career 17.3% shooter
http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/j/jonesda01.html
17.6% last year, 18.3% this year. Can anyone really expect him to keep that up?
He seems to suffer from Kulemin-itis… shoot 1.4x per game. That’s insanely low…. only playing 14:54 mins per night, but still.
Low TOI… insane shooting %… this guy has red flags, but based on boxcar stats will probably get a decent raise
No no, dig UP stupid.
Which of those players is going to move for, say, a 4th round pick? The Leafs aren’t winning the Cup this year; giving up assets like decent prospects or 2nd round draft picks for a minor upgrade to our 3rd line makes zero sense. We’ve already got guys interally who can play those roles. No giving up assets for rentals.
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No giving up assets for rentals.
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In which case I approve of this trade.
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I don’t have aspirations of the Leafs winning the cup, but I’d like a competitive chance. Given that a 3rd or 4th round pick has little chance of making the NHL, I’d be ok with giving up an asset.
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right, if it costs a 3rd or later,
but when the price starts to hit 2nd rounders or higher in value you start to enter “not worth it” territory for most of these guys
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
Dominic Moore has moved for a 2nd round draft pick twice. Chris Kelly cost a 2nd rounder last year. Forwards who moved for a 3rd last season:
Brad Winchester
Max Lapierre (kind of, deal included swapped prospects)
Chris Higgins (3rd and a prospect)
We’re not getting someone better than Lombardi or Kadri for a 3rd or a 4th.
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Lee Fucking Stempniak was on pace for over 20 goals and (I think) 40 points when he was traded for a 4th and 7th.
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I’d rather play Kadri than whoever this year’s Lee Stempniak is.
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Goals scored up to and including 24 years of age
Mats Sundin – 168
Phil Kessel – 158 and counting
Discuss.
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two completely different players
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Damn, I messed up my search. Sundin actually had 191. As you were.
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something to hang the jersey on
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
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by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 4:58 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 2 recs
The leading scorer in the NHL in Sundin’s 24 year old season had 161 points. 6 players broke 110 points that year. Zero players are on pace for 110 points this season.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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Sundin had three years with Sakic and Nolan and they all tore it up
and yet the Nords were still horrific
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Nords is a really funny nickname.
I vote on bringing them back, just because of this
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
think of all the Skyrim jokes!
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Sundin turned 24 in Feb. 1995, so practically all of those goals came before the DPA, back in the ‘Defense? What’s That?’ era.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Feb 9, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
Huh. Even if Boston had .909 goaltending this year, they’d still be on pace for 110 points. Impressive.
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Eh, hard to qualify that because you can’t say for certain when they would’ve let in goals.
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I was just using pythagorean expectation
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their scoring is unbelievable 3 players in top 7 in P/60
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 8, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
To be fair, is it even possible to stop the juggarnaut that is the Winnipeg Jets? My sources say no.
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by CameronSorley on Feb 8, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
what's your worst hockey injury?
just underwent surgery today to place a metal plate in and check the ligaments after breaking my left fibula the other night….
I don’t even know how it happened… I tried to kick a pick up to myself, ended up turning my ankle and somehow landed with all my weight on it… gruesomely awkward fall and out 8-10 weeks plus rehab. sucks too as our playoffs are right around the corner and its doubtful I’m ready for the beginning of summer season
by Papa Squid on Feb 8, 2012 7:28 PM EST via Android app reply actions
three way tie
head first into the boards from behind for a severe concussion
fell during a fight awkwardly onto my shoulder knocking it out of the socket and tearing some stuff up
getting ulf samuelsson’d and tearing some ligaments and other wonderful crunchy noises
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
oh, and ive also destroyed most of the cartilage in the points of my elbows, its free floating and I can move around the little bits to this day
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
oh man, that sucks. mines probably a twisted ankle, I’ve been pretty lucky with sports other then rugby, I bruised my Diaphragm tackling a guy, it was hard to breathe for a while.
by pho king awesome on Feb 8, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
I got my head broken off once in this collision with a guy.
Worst thing? In the melee that followed, I think I picked up the wrong head.
There are days now, I just…. donno….
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by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
It’s just a fleshwound!
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by Nifty Mittens on Feb 8, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
My injuries
3 broken ribs
Left calf nerve damage
Sprained right MCL
Torn right patella capsule
Random little things like slash-rash
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nerve damage? the docs were concerned about possible nerve damage which would have led to numbness on the top of my foot, but seemed to have escaped that
Worst would probably be getting in a fight, getting facemasked in said fight and having my ear split into the cartilage.
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3 to 4 concussions depending on who you ask
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by CameronSorley on Feb 9, 2012 1:37 AM EST up reply actions
there’s a really interesting piece in the Globe about Ken Hitchcock. He talks a lot about how much the game has changed, and how possession doesn’t matter.
It’s always been one of my suspicions that Ron Wilson’s lack of success with this team (until very recently) might be because he’s not longer a coached suited to the new-new NHL. Maybe he’s adjusted enough, or maybe he has the tallent now, or maybe it’s a combination. But it’s still interesting to consider that things about the game that applied 3 or 4 years ago no longer hold.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 8, 2012 7:52 PM EST reply actions
We tried to still play possession hockey after the lockout, and now it’s race-a-rrific hockey. Bang it up the ice, chip it in, fore-check like hell, bang it down the ice.
I don’t know if Hitchcock knows something different, but Eric T over at BSH has found that dump-and-chase is one of the least successful offensive and defensive strategies.
Also, puck possession measures like Corsi and Fenwick are still the best predictor of team success that we have, which seems to indicate that puck possession is still very important. Interestingly, the Blues have actually been an exceptionally good puck possession team this season – 2nd in Fenwick close behind Detroit.
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i wonder whether he’s using ‘possession’ in the literal sense. if your team out shoots and out-chances the other team, the team will have good ‘possession’ stats.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 8, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
See I have always wondered how much of a “puck posession” marker Corsi and Fenwick are. They measure shots for and against, not puck possession directly. A team that is circling for a long time with the puck vs a team that shoots a lot may end up with low Corsi or Fenwick numbers…
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My puck possession series (which I swear I’ll finish eventually) showed that Corsi and actual puck possession lined up pretty well more often than not. For example, in the last game I did, the ratios for Time On Attack (aka puck possession), Corsi, and Fenwick for the Leafs were:
TOA – 48.8%
Corsi – 50.0%
Fenwick – 46.9%
A couple of percent works out to maybe a few shot attempts over the course of a full game. The numbers are close.
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Really OT
I’m going to be in Florence/ Rome for a weekish in March. Struggling to plan how long it takes to see these sights. Anyone by chance have experiences to share?
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I spent three days in Florence alone just going to some of the museums. No matter how long you take, you will never see all of either of them. I would recommend researching exactly what you want to see and prioritizing. In Rome, for example, I spent an entire day just at the Coliseum and Forum.
by LeafInVancouver on Feb 8, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
Really enjoyed the Capitoline Museum and the Vatican Museums… the Colosseum, the Pantheon, lots of sights in Rome. Italy’s all about thee obelisks from the empire. SPQR.
I think they have a team, the Florence Flounders. Play in the ECHL.
Might wanna hang out and catch a game.
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by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks kinda thought so. The Brass doors of San Giovanni, and Palazzo Medici/ baptistry are my main concerns. Did you have problems with cameras anywhere?
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Outdoor stuff, no. Indoors, sometimes. The Vatican does NOT like cameras, especially in the Sistine Chapel.
by LeafInVancouver on Feb 8, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
So far I’ve got for Rome: Palatine Hill, Roman Forum, Colosseo, Capitoline Hill, Pantheon, Campo de’ Fiori, Castle of Saint Angelo, Sistine Chapel, St. Peter’s Basilica.
Though I feel like I’m missing a tonne. Florence is my main reason for going to Italy.
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I loved Siena, and just hanging about in the smaller towns/villages/countryside of Tuscany.
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by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yea I’ve already regret booking such a short amount of time for a trip. But it’s a busy time for work and I want to get my hours done for apprenticeship. Hopefully next year I can go for a lot longer as I really want to go to Munich for Oktoberfest.
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Oktoberfest is something that needs to be experienced…and I agree with not norm, Siena is amazing….and your experiences will be a lot better outside the main tourist attractions. That being said, things like the Coliseum and Vatican City have to be seen
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I think this more shows that ESPN is stupid. Let us hope that the answer is a physical defenseman and that they think that defenseman is Mike Komisarek.
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by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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