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Man, it sure doesn't seem like two years since the golden goal in Vancouver, does it? The "IGGY!" heard round the world will remain one of the defining moments in Canadian hockey history. How does Canada repeat their outcome from 2010? By putting together an even better roster for the 2014 Winter Olympics, held in Sochi, Russia. We don't know for sure if NHL players will going, but it's going to be on the table as a part of this summer's CBA negotiations, and the players want it.

So assuming the NHL will be participating, who will Team Canada select? Follow along after the jump to find out who could make the final cut.

Star-divide

CENTER


Sidney Crosby

#87 / Center / Pittsburgh Penguins

5-11

200

Aug 07, 1987


It's tough to imagine a Canadian national team without Sid the Kid. If he's healthy, he'll go. Hopefully they'll have figured out how to get him back to 100% and keep him there.


Jonathan Toews

#19 / Center / Chicago Blackhawks

6-2

210

Apr 29, 1988


Can't argue with Captain Serious. With Crosby out, is Toews the best Canadian hockey player in the world? He'll be 25 in 2014, already has one Gold Medal and a Cup. He was Canada's leading scorer in 2010. He's a lock.


John Tavares

#91 / Center / New York Islanders

6-0

202

Sep 20, 1990


The last great hope for the New York Islanders has absolutely lit up the scoreboard as a 21 year old for a moribund franchise. No reason not to expect him to achieve even greater heights as we get closer to the Olympics.


Patrice Bergeron

#37 / Center / Boston Bruins

6-2

194

Jul 24, 1985


Another returning player from the 2010 gold medal team. Bergeron can do anything asked of him, and regularly goes up against the best in the world. He can still add some secondary scoring while playing an elite shutdown game.

LEFT WING


Jamie Benn

#14 / Left Wing / Dallas Stars

6-2

208

Jul 18, 1989


A powerful young emerging star in the Lone Star state, Benn has been impressing scouts for over two years. In addition to his incredible strength and balance, Benn possesses a hard, accurate shot. Canada will need some size down low, and Benn can provide that.


Matt Duchene

#9 / Center / Colorado Avalanche

5-11

200

Jan 16, 1991


Naturally a center, Duchene has spent time at LW and would fit in nicely as a speedy, goal scoring option for any of of Canada's talented playmaking centers. He has been hobbled by a wonky knee this season, but he has been a fantastic goal scorer since entering the NHL and will only be 23 in 2014.


Evander Kane

#9 / Center / Winnipeg Jets

6-2

195

Aug 02, 1991


Ignore the position listed above. Kane is a LW and plays the position with authority. He was fairly thin when he entered the NHL, but as he has filled out, you can see the benefits of his physical style of play. Though Kane has plenty of skill, he has learned that he can simply overpower a lot of NHLers. Like Benn, Canada will need some physical play up front and Kane can certainly help in that area.


Logan Couture

#39 / Center / San Jose Sharks

6-1

195

Mar 28, 1989


Couture has some experience at LW, and that's where he will have to play if he wants to go to Sochi. Couture is a hardworking scorer with a pretty sound two-way game. He certainly won't be one of Canada's go-to guys on offense, but provides quality depth and could play on a solid two-way line with Bergeron.

RIGHT WING


Steven Stamkos

#91 / Center / Tampa Bay Lightning

6-1

188

Feb 07, 1990


Canada will have a large group of talented centers to choose from. That means some guys are going to have to play out of position. Stamkos has had a few cups of coffee at RW in the NHL, and that's where I would expect him to play in Sochi. He'll be Canada's top goal scoring option.


Claude Giroux

#28 / Right Wing / Philadelphia Flyers

5-11

172

Jan 12, 1988


Another C/RW guy who will likely have to play wing at the Olympics. We all now know why the Flyers were prepared to dump Mike Richards and Jeff Carter. Giroux is one of the NHL's finest playmakers and close to a lock for Team Canada.


Corey Perry

#10 / Right Wing / Anaheim Ducks

6-3

212

May 16, 1985


While linemate Ryan Getzlaf continues to slump, Perry has continued on as an elite scorer in the NHL. He won the Hart Trophy as last season's MVP, and he's on pace for another 35 goal season. He also has the ability to get under the opponent's skin, although some of his decisions are questionable. He scored 4 goals in Vancouver in 2010, and Perry will only be 28 in 2014.


Jordan Eberle

#14 / Center / Edmonton Oilers

6-0

185

May 15, 1990


How can you leave Eberle off the list? He's in just his second NHL season and is only pace for nearly 40 goals. "Clutchiness" has been shown to be mostly myth, but Eberle does have a knack for scoring timely goals. I'd chalk that up to more luck than anything, but hey, Canada can always use more luck on its side.

Obviously, I'd go with a younger group of forwards than many if I was picking the team. Canada's has loads of talented players, and many of those from 2010 will be leaving or have left the prime of their careers in the next few seasons. Who's in your forward group for Team Canada? Leave some comments and be sure to check back later for Part II: Defense & Goaltending.

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Seriously he wrote this or seriously he picked Evander Kane over a shit load of better players?

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by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah thats what I meant with the former.
I mean its not like the Leafs are in the middle of a playoff race and the trade deadline is going on and in August we will need something to talk about.

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by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

so what?

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by birky on Feb 8, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Iginla

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by adrockin on Feb 8, 2012 2:06 PM EST reply actions  

will he still be effective at almost 37?

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I think so, especially if you know its your last hurrah and you are wearing the “C”.

5-2-7 in 7GP in 2010 = tied for 2nd on the team w/ Crosby/Heatly/Getzlaf only behind Toews who had 8

by adrockin on Feb 8, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

if he goes in place of any of the listed players above, it will be a terrible mistake
let someone on D be the old salt
like Duncan Keith, Brent Seabrook or Shea Weber

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes because Shea “I’ll be 28” Weber is an old fart

Seabrooke 28 and Keith will be 30. Still Keith I think will be the oldest skater on the team. Oldest overall if Luongo doesn’t make it…

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Keith is the oldest you listed and he will be 30 at Sochi

by Dr_Furious on Feb 8, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

2010’s leading scorer was Pavol Demitra and he was 35 going on 36.

He went 3-7-10 in 7GP

by adrockin on Feb 8, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

and your point is?

It’s not a matter of how old they are its a matter of who is the best at their positions and the wave of talent in the last 5-10 years is much better than the guys who will be over 35 2 years from now.

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m fine in acknowledging that Iginla likely won’t be the best player for his position at the time, I’m just advocating he will still get the call and can participate at a more than acceptable level.

By my count only 4 of the proposed forwards have played in the Olympics and I think Hockey canada gives Iginla the nod for experience.

by adrockin on Feb 8, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Iginla has a better chance of retiring from hockey before 2014 than he does of making the olympic team

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Especially if he doesn’t lay off the Nyquil

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by Self Destructive Zones on Feb 8, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

This is absolutely not true lol. He’s not going to retire at 34.. I’d be mildly surprised if he’s not trying to play hockey by 2018, though I maybe that’s a stretch

by Ben Schnell on Feb 9, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Could be. I know he plays hard but the great players play into 40 because they don’t want to stop.

by Ben Schnell on Feb 9, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

right, but you seem to have missed the “better chance at” part

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 9, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

exactly
everyone else is either going to be useless old or just not good enough to play olympic hockey

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I think its more of the kids are just so damn good than the old people suck but I agree

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

In 2010 4 of the 13 forward were in their 30s

2 were 30, 1 was 31, and 1 was 32.

However on D 3 of 7 were and they were older at 33, 35, and 26.

In net they were even older with 2 of 3 being in their 30s at 30 and 37.

By that pattern it is likely that most of the players will be in their prime (mid-late 20s) at forward, and if we see older players it is likely at D or G.

The interesting thing about the team is that there were only 2 players 26-29 years old and they were Keith at 26 (likely to make it again) and Heatley at 29 (very unlikely). Almost every skater was either the next generation just coming into their prime from age 24-26 (9 of the 20 skaters) or veterans just leaving their prime ages 29-33 (6 of the 20). The other 5 were the ageless Nieds and Pronger and the young guns in Crosby, Toews, and Doughty (20-21 years old). There was no one on the team who was 27-29 (besides Heatley) that would be in their early 30s now. So if there is an older player to make it, he’ll probably be in his mid to late 30s. The only ones who would have a chance at that are Thornton, Iggy, Marleau, and Boyle and I really highly doubt any of them make it.

Without realizing Canada seemed to go 3 or 4 years without this elite level of talent.

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by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

The top Canadians in that 4 year period

Are Spezza, Roy, Pominville, Sharpe, Lecavelier, and B Richards.

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by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

only Sharp and Richards may be good enough to make Sochi

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah that was what I was pointing out. I think Spezza was likely good enough to make the last team (Richards too), but they’ll all probably be to far past their prime by the next olympics. The one weird guy is Sharp who seems to have just hit his prime late, so maybe he’ll be going strong.

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by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I just don’t see them beating out the other guys
oh well, 2 years is a long time in hockey land

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Hall > Kane

this year, in two years, and in ten years.

by adrockin on Feb 8, 2012 2:11 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed, I’d probably take James Neal over Kane as well…

by Dr_Furious on Feb 8, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah me too.

Plus there are the rest of the vets like Rick Nash… Gotta think he’ll be on there somewhere

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

The Leafs are sending a team to the Olympics?

But seriously, Crosby centering Stamkos? Holy fuck.

by stevesmith19 on Feb 8, 2012 2:11 PM EST reply actions  

The Leafs are sending Phil and Gardiner to team USA. Bozak might defect to join his buddy.

by m3smth on Feb 8, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

And we finally got rid of Komisarek.

by stevesmith19 on Feb 8, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Gunnarsson to Sweden possibly. Grabovski to Belarus.

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by birky on Feb 8, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Gustavasson was the #2 goalie for Sweden in 2010.

by adrockin on Feb 8, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Also Liles on USA potentially. Dion will get a look for Canada. Kulemin potentially for Russia. Holzer and Mueller for Germany.

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

He won’t be this time. They’ve got Markstrom, Enroth, Lindback to choose from.

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by birky on Feb 8, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Markstrom is gonna be good

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by sportsfan2 on Feb 8, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

RRGBSR in goal for Canada

/swoon

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

my god, we are through the looking glass here people

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

rubs eyes

I thought I closed twitter

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Feb 8, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy crap.

well, that escalated quickly

by aelanK on Feb 8, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Best

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by Semi_Colon on Feb 8, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

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by PPP on Feb 8, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

You are obviously forgetting Joffrey Lupul… jeeze what kind of Leafs writer are you!

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

I was thinking that too… I would probably take him over 3 of the LW players, at least if he keeps this level of play up. Also, they should take him to troll the other teams’ players. That alone makes him more valuable than Couture or Kane.

by holymackinaw on Feb 8, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I was being sarcastic I don’t expect him to be better than Neal, Benn, Kane, Hall, etc in 2 years

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a chance in hell Lupul makes Team Canada, even if you are picking the team right now. He. Does. Not. Have. The. Defensive. Game.

by samspade on Feb 8, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Or any defensive game, for that matter. Guy’s never thrown a crosscheck in his life.

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by Blinky on Feb 8, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

They will be taking some players who will be over the age of 30 I’m pretty sure, obviously we’ll have to see which guys get out of their funks (I would bet at least 1 of Carter, Richards, Nash, Staal, Getzlaf will be there).

Also seem to select some checking forward types.

by Dr_Furious on Feb 8, 2012 2:25 PM EST reply actions  

don’t forget Perry too.

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

left him off bc he’s listed in the article – he’ll only be 28… although I guess most of these guys won’t be over 30 either but close to it.

by Dr_Furious on Feb 8, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t realize Perry was on the list up there… I read it came back 10 minutes later and forgot about it…

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

While the youth approach sounds good, it’s never been Canada’s M.O. even at the junior level. That’s why I expect to see guys like Sharp, Nash, Iginla, and Thornton on the 2014 Canada team.

Also, Benn over Neal?

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by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

Also did Getzlaf die or something?

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by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

No, but is he one of the four best Canadian centers in the NHL right now? I would say no. Not really close.

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by birky on Feb 8, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

No but he is better than Benn, COuture and Kane. I would rather Getzlaf play wing than those guys

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by leafer1984 on Feb 8, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

idn if his game would be as effective not at centre.

HOWEVER

I would move Tavares to the wing before I would Getz. Keep Getz and Perry together if they are still effective then.

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I dunno. I was trying to take into account where I thought players would be in two years. Most of those young guys should be hitting peak production.

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by birky on Feb 8, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not sold on Kane yet.

Also you have a distinct lack of forwards who also PK. You have Bergeron and Toews.

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

when I think of effective “vet” presence, I think of a guy who will be 30-33ish

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

No one really older than Keith comes to mind and he’ll be 30 at that time (31 in the summer).

Nash will be turning 30 that year.

I don’t think Sharp Iggy or Thornton (Or Marleau) make it this time around as the kids will just be better.

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Oldest forwards on the 2010 team were Iginla (32) and Morrow (31).

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by SkinnyFish on Feb 8, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

mmmhmmm

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Benn over Neal?

Absolutely yes

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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Dallas apparently thought so.

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by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

IMO they didn’t need to choose one, but hey I don’t write their cheques.

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by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I still think it was a dumb trade. Goligoski is not that good. Like he is a good hockey player, but not worth losing Neal for.

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by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Puck Moving Defensemen

Apparently every team needs them, and there’s always a team who will overpay to get one.

i.e. Kaberle

Still shocked we got Liles for so cheap.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

NTC probably helped Burkie out there

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Food for thought

Stamkos, St Louis, Brad Richards were 2,3 ,4 in CDN scoring in 2009/10 and didn’t make the Olympic team – they base selection off more than current production.

by Dr_Furious on Feb 8, 2012 2:56 PM EST reply actions  

Although interestingly only Iginla (32), Morrow (31), Marleau (30) and Thornton (30) were 30+. Crosby and Toews were 21 but then next youngest was 24.

*Forwards only

by Dr_Furious on Feb 8, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Crosby also didnt make the 2006 team, despite being a 100 point player that year if im not mistaken

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by Matt_Roberts on Feb 8, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

McCabe, Draper and Bertuzzi….ugh

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

ugh indeed

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by Matt_Roberts on Feb 8, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Team Canada 2012 Forwards

Stamkos _ Crosby _ Tavares

Seguin _ Bergeron _ Duchene

MRichards _ Toews _ Giroux

Perry _ Getzlaf _ Nash

Benn

The assumption here is that they are going to build 4 lines that are each capable of playing Power vs Power. Four first lines, if you will.

I also think they will continue to pick teammates, and particularily linemates. Thats why you see Seguin up there on Bergeron’s wing.

There are no Edmonton Oilers because I don’t think they’ll be ready (same as Stamkos this year).

J Staal, E Staal, Cotoure, Thornton and Carter will probably all be in the mix.

by samspade on Feb 8, 2012 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

As will guys like Kane, Skinner etc.

by samspade on Feb 8, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt Seguin makes it because Bergeron won’t be on a scoring line anyways imo. He’ll be there for the tough minutes.

Stamkos-Crosby-Benn/Neal
Tavares-Toews-Giroux
Perry-Getzlaf-Duchene (most sheltered line)
MRichards-Bergeron-Nash
Neal/Benn

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I would also consider putting Tavares on the top line instead of Benn/Neal it depends on which line needs him more. I did it this way to balance out the offense of those 2 lines a little more.

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

The actual lines I designed were just to help me pick 13 guys, and to keep teammates/linemates in my mind. Don’t read to much into them.

I really do think Seguin is as good a bet as anybody to be there. He already plays on Bergeron’s wing (though he doesn’t alsways go out for the Dzone starts that Bergeron gets) against tough competition, and he can score.

by samspade on Feb 8, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

This is fun

So how about the Yanks. I’m going to design this team on the assumption that Burke is still GM, and that he still goes ‘Scoring / Checking’

Kane _ Stastny _ Kessel

Oshie _ Pavelski _ Pacioretty

Brown _ Kesler _ Parise

Dubinsky _ Backes _ Callaghan

Again, don’t put to much stock into the lines. Definitley a ‘Scoring / Checking’ mentality in place, although those 2 ‘checking’ lines are boss as hell.

by samspade on Feb 8, 2012 3:36 PM EST reply actions  

No Parise? No Ryan?

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by birky on Feb 8, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

nvm, I see Parise now.

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by birky on Feb 8, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Woops, I missed Ryan.

Put Pac as the 2nd centre, Ryan on that wing, Pavelski with Kesler, and Dustin Brown as the 13th.

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by samspade on Feb 8, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

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by Semi_Colon on Feb 8, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

But what am I so afraid of?

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by Ghostsof on Feb 8, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Ryan over Paciorety easy

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Alright, a correction

Ryan on Kesler’s wing

Brown as 13th forward

by samspade on Feb 8, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

wow they are realyl weak down the middle in terms of scorers…

I’d probably put

Kessel-Kesler-Parise
Kane-Stastny-Ryan
Oshie-Pavelski-Brown
Backes-Dubs-Callahan
Patches

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 8, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Patch will probably be a better player than Dustin Brown by then (if he isn’t already). I also left off JVR, who could go. In fact, looking again I’d probably drop Dubinsky and Brown.

The USA definitley doesn’t have the same Super Elite Depth as Canada, which is why it makes a lot of sense to build that team with Scoring / Checking in mind.

by samspade on Feb 8, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Revised

Kane – Stastny – Kessel

Patches – Pavelski – Ryan

Oshie – Backes – JVR

Callahan – Kesler – Parise (these guys take on Crosby)

Dubinsky

by samspade on Feb 8, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

what I’m wondering the most is will the sleeping giant be around for the games?

Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by Scott Gomez this past year: 0
Goals scored on Stanley Cup winning goalies by me: 1

by elseldo on Feb 8, 2012 4:04 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

i think the odds on Lambert trolling someone so hard they snap and stab him before 2014 is even, so it could go either way

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

No love

for Matt Moulson? I know he’s not sexy, and doesn’t really play a lot of defense, but only 5 Canadian players have more goals than him the past three seasons.

by afrosupreme on Feb 8, 2012 5:27 PM EST reply actions  

over who?

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

The guy is 28 and will be 30. Those two players will be entering their primes.

In that same time period Duchenne has one less point (playing from ages 19-21 versus 26-28) in 6 less games.

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by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

And 20 less goals.

Mostly curious what everyone’s take on Moulson was, but there didn’t seem to be a guy on the list who likes to get in front of the net and find rebounds and score dirty goals.

by afrosupreme on Feb 8, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Perry, Couture, Toews, Bergeron, Eberle, Benn
they all score a pretty good amount of goals from within 3 feet of the net
team canada won’t be starved for goals from anywhere

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Mostly curious what everyone’s take on Moulson was

Not that high on him. Curiously didn’t show up until Tavares did. Never seen anything special from him when I do get to see him play.

Not nearly as talented as a bunch of other guys I’d take on Team Canada before him.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Curiously didn’t show up until Tavares did.

Not really the case. Only had 29 games with the Kings before coming the Isles, and did put up 6 goals in that span. Showed scoring prowess at the AHL level and in college prior to that. He just never really had a legitimate shot in the NHL before he made it with the Islanders.

Quisp has some good stuff on his stint with the Kings if you’re more interested.

He’s definitely not as talented as a lot of guys, but he’s a better goal scorer than almost everyone in the league.

by afrosupreme on Feb 8, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

6 goals in 29 games? My mistake! Put him on the first line!

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 9, 2012 5:46 AM EST up reply actions  

but he’s a better goal scorer than almost everyone in the league.

So is Clarke MacArthur, and no one here thinks he should get a sniff at team Canada

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 9, 2012 5:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Not really the same level-MacArthur has never cracked 30. Moulson’s onto his third straight 30 goal season, and might threaten for 40.

I really don’t care if he makes it-I’m hoping the NHL scraps the whole Oylmpic thing, but I’m surprised at the lack of knowledge about Moulson’s ability.

by afrosupreme on Feb 9, 2012 8:34 AM EST up reply actions  

The NHL at the Olympics is the real all-star gathering. Brilliant hockey played at an extremely high level because their is pride at steak stake.

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 9, 2012 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I love that part of it, but I liked it better when it was called the Canada Cup and they didn’t stop the season to play it. The Olympics is the wrong venue for it in my opinion.

by afrosupreme on Feb 9, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

no one here “lacks knowledge” of Moulsons ability, we are just aware that he is behind way too many superior players to even get an honourable mention for, quite possibly, the best hockey team ever assembled
this is not a snub, it is cold hard fact
the Clarke MacArthur comparison was SUPPOSED to be inexact since your only argument seems to be that Moulson scores more goals than almost everyone in the league, MacArthur is 58th out of 840 players listed on NHL.com in goal scoring, so he is by all accounts better at goal scoring than almost everyone in the NHL

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 9, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s not lack of knowledge – it’s not overrating a guy who has been cashing in on Tavares’ extremely high skill level.

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 9, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

no and no

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

No

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Feb 8, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

For fun

Stamkos-Crosby-Tavares
Nash-Toews-Giroux
Bergeron-Getzlaf-Perry
Benn-Thornton-Eberle

Thornton is probably the surprise to most people but I think he may be the “vet” of the team. He would be pretty old at 34 and has cooled off the last couple years to about a 0.9 PPG player instead of 1.0+. So we’ll see.

Also a completely dark horse name: Chris Stewart. At the end of last season I could have seen him have a big argument made for him. He is having a really bad season now, but if he can refind his stride he is a great powerforward.

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by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 5:36 PM EST reply actions  

isn’t it great that a player that “only” scores 0.9 PPG is considered too old and on the bubble to make our national team?

Fuck Kerry Fraser
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by SlickWill on Feb 8, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Well he is 0.9 ppg today. I don’t know if he will be in 2 years (note that is why the Richards contract is so bad).

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by BCapp on Feb 8, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

how many other countries would kill to have an “extra” guy even down to say 0.75 PPG kicking around? Even if Thornton tails off quite a bit in two years, most anywhere else he’s one of the top guys is what I’m getting at.

Fuck Kerry Fraser
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by SlickWill on Feb 8, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

new plan:

send three Canadian teams split up into Ontario // Quebec-East // Manitoba-West just to make it a bit more fair for the rest of the world… and we’d still probably find ways to leave great players off of all three

Fuck Kerry Fraser
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by SlickWill on Feb 8, 2012 5:39 PM EST reply actions  

Ontario - Forwards

Nash – Giroux – Tavares
Seguin – Stamkos – EStaal
Neal – Thornton – Carter
Bolland – JStaal – MRichards
Coutoure

I know some of you are going ‘Dave Bolland?!?!?!’, but the guy plays tough as fucking nails minutes, with crappy wingers, and he will top 20 goals / 40 points this year. He’ll be 27 in 2 years.

Also, this makes assumptions that:
1) certain young players (Kane, Hall, Skinner) won’t have an adequate defensive game
2)EStaal gets back to being, well, EStaal
3) Thornton isn’t felled by age
4) Carter, Bolland and MRichards are healthy

Feel free to call me a moron switch people out as you see fit. Also, let me know if I forgot anybody.

by samspade on Feb 8, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

FUUUUUKKKKKKKK

I forgot Spezza!!!!!!

Okay, top 2 lines are the same. Bottom 2 are now:

Neal – Spezza – Carter
JStaal – Thornton – MRichards
Coutoure

We don’t need Bolland any more, because Thornto, Staal and MRichards are your ‘Checkers’. He is still a swap in though.

by samspade on Feb 8, 2012 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Stamkos?

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Look up, he is there. 2nd centre.

by samspade on Feb 8, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck me I forgot Perry. Alright, top 6 still the same. Bottom 6 is:

Perry – Spezza – Carter
JStaal – Thornton – MRichards
Neal

We are erring on the side of defense. No Chris Drapers, mind you.

by samspade on Feb 8, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

goddamnit, i meant to say Skinner

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 8, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Like I said above, I left off a lot of rookies because I am assuming they won’t be good enough defensively

by samspade on Feb 8, 2012 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Who needs defence when the puck will be in the opponents zone for the entire game

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Feb 9, 2012 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Quebec / East Coast - Forwards

Dupuis – Crosby – BRichards
Ribiero – Bergeron – Perron
Huberdeau – Couturier – Briere
Ryder – Perrault – Clowe
Cleary

This was tough. I tried to envision lines that could actually play D, and thats why you see Pascal Dupuis up on Crosby’s wing. Lombardi could go somewhere here as well.

by samspade on Feb 8, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Marchand for sure. From NS.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

There we go.
Marchand tpBergeron’s wing
Ribiero centre’s Pearrault and Ryder
Clowe is the 13th forward
Danny Cleary is old.

by samspade on Feb 8, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Western Canada

Sharp – Toews – Iginla
Marleau – Getzlaf – Versteeg
Eberle – Hopkins – Little
Ladd – Zajac – Doan
Laich

I am positive that I am forgetting people on this one. Once again, attention was paid to defence. This also assumes Iginla and Doan can still play, but if they can then you have some damn good two way lines. Eberle, Hopkins and Little may need sheltering though. Also, Brett Connoly could be an all star by this time.

by samspade on Feb 8, 2012 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Lupul I would assume to make it on that roster

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by SPERO on Feb 8, 2012 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Were the F is Joffrey on this list??

by killerninetythree on Feb 8, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn’t realize he was an eastern boy.

Then again, this is 2 years from now. His defensive game is nonexistent, and his scoring could fall considerably.

by samspade on Feb 8, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

My rosterboner

Always gets really hard thinking about the national team

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by Semi_Colon on Feb 8, 2012 6:43 PM EST reply actions  

Random question

What times will the games be on at? I can’t remember what they were like in 06

by jd90 on Feb 8, 2012 9:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Sochi is 9 hours a head of Ontario so assume 7pm start times there we’d see 10am start times here.

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by WizardofNaz on Feb 9, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

You know what this team needs?

More Centers. I think Spezza would look great on defense.

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by Learn2Leaf on Feb 8, 2012 9:56 PM EST reply actions  

You know where Spezza woulda looked best?

Stalingrad.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

What in the actual fuck is happening ?

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Feb 8, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Seen this kid? Nathan MacKinnon? Only 16. the next Sid.

Named Nathan MacKinnon. From Cole Harbour NS as well. 16 now.

Here’s his stats line from the QMJHL this year.

2011-12 Halifax Mooseheads 43 26 36 62 +6

Put him on the Eastern Canadian team too.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 10:11 PM EST reply actions  

Don’t tell Steckel.

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Feb 8, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

And beautiful seeing the Bruins get curb-stomped by the Sabres.

Fuck the Bruins.

Cave in Lucic.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Feb 8, 2012 10:17 PM EST reply actions  

I like the team

It meets my national team criteria:
1. Don’t take the old guys. There’s lots of leadership there, you don’t have to add Mark Messier just because he’s got a big name. Take the current best players.
2. Don’t take the grinders. There’s lots of defensive ability there, you don’t have to add Kris Draper just because that’s all he does. Take the best players.
3. Speed. International ice demands speed.

The only change I would make is that I think Nash could still fit, depending on how some of these young guys like Kane and Benn come along. Oh, and you left off 100-point scorer Nazem Kadri.

I've been looking at the sky

by Back In Black on Feb 8, 2012 11:55 PM EST reply actions  

Oh, and you left off 100-point scorer Nazem Kadri.

Shameful of birky.

I like the concept. It’ll be funny to compare this to a similar list in a year and then in two years. Who knows who comes out of the woodwork.

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by PPP on Feb 8, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

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