> ## Content Index > Fetch the complete content index at: https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/llms.txt > Use this file to discover other available public pages before exploring further. # Let's Talk CBA - URL: https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/lets-talk-cba/ - Published: 2012-08-16T10:00:36.000Z - Updated: 2012-08-16T10:00:36.000Z - Author: J.P. Nikota - Tags: #chorus, #Import 2023-04-05 11:15 I would like to think that the NHL and it's players could come to an agreement before September 15th, but even with the [players accepting a hard cap](http://aol.sportingnews.com/nhl/story/2012-08-14/nhl-labor-talks-donald-fehr-nhlpa-counterproposal-revenue-sharing?ref=pensionplanpuppets.com) on team payroll going forward, there [remains a substantial gulf](http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2012/8/15/3245345/nhl-cba-2012-nhlpa-proposal-donald-fehr-gary-bettman-fight?ref=pensionplanpuppets.com) to be bridged. In fact, Donald Fehr and the players [may not be playing as nice](http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2012/08/15/grange%5Fnhl%5Fnhlpa%5Fcba%5Ftalks%5Ffehr%5Fproposal/?ref=pensionplanpuppets.com) as it seems. As for myself, I have little sympathy for the owners and general managers at this point: > "Everybody but the people who run teams base performance on how many points you get \[or\] how many goals. Well, we don't. If he gets goals, that helps, but you have to look at the overall contribution to the team. Martin \[Lapointe\]'s a character person. He comes to play every night. He came from a winning program. And we needed at his position." > > \- Harry Sinden Check out [my article on the significance of this quote over at The Leafs Nation](http://theleafsnation.com/2012/8/15/martin-lapointe-and-nhl-player-salaries?ref=pensionplanpuppets.com) for a more detailed explanation. Jump for more links. **Leafs Links:** [Lindy’s Maple Leaf "Season Preview" magazine brings back fond memories of old-time publications](http://vintageleafmemories.blogspot.ca/2012/08/lindys-maple-leaf-season-preview.html?ref=pensionplanpuppets.com) Oh, Michael Langlois, you make me blush. Seriously folks, go buy this magazine on August 28th. [Which first-line centres were available?](http://theleafsnation.com/2012/8/15/which-first-line-centres-were-available?ref=pensionplanpuppets.com) Cam Charron wonders how much the Leafs could realistically have improved. [Can the Toronto Maple Leafs Make the Playoffs in 2013?](http://thehockeywriters.com/mapleleafscentral/can-the-maple-leafs-make-the-playoffs/?utm%5Fsource=rss&utm%5Fmedium=rss&utm%5Fcampaign=can-the-maple-leafs-make-the-playoffs) My own take? No. Not as the roster is today. Tony Notarianni has his say at [Maple Leafs](http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/teams/toronto-maple-leafs?ref=pensionplanpuppets.com) Central [Leafs' Playoff Odds](http://lolpics.se/pics/32418.jpg?ref=pensionplanpuppets.com) From @thesilverfoxto. [NHL Rookie Preview: Ben Scrivens](http://thehockeyhouse.net/toronto-maple-leafs/nhl-rookie-preview-ben-scrivens/?ref=pensionplanpuppets.com) Let's all get excited about the man with an unusually high glove in a normal stance. From Steven Ellis at The Hockey House. [The Best Game You Can Name](http://thebestgameyoucanname.blogspot.ca/2012/08/the-beginning.html?ref=pensionplanpuppets.com) Let's welcome a new member to the Barilkosphere, Sam Gamper. **Other Hockey Links:** [Gary Bettman says ‘wide gap’ remains in NHL labour talks](http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/gary-bettman-says-wide-gap-remains-in-nhl-labour-talks/article4482854/?cmpid=rss1&ref=pensionplanpuppets.com) WELL SHRINK IT, LAWYER MAN. From David Shoalts at the Globe. [NHLPA Counter Offer: What's the Bottom Line?](http://www.arcticicehockey.com/2012/8/15/3244567/nhlpa-counter-offer-whats-the-bottom-line?ref=pensionplanpuppets.com) Over at Arctic Ice Hockey, Alex Hemsky has his say. [Donald Fehr, actual negotiating genius](http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2012/08/15/donald-fehr-actual-negotiating-genius/?ref=pensionplanpuppets.com) Ryan Lambert has a few kind words to say about the NHLPA boss at BHS. [Backhand Shelf Podcast, featuring Scott Hartnell, CBA talk and more](http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2012/08/15/backhand-shelf-podcast-featuring-scott-hartnell-cba-talk-and-more/?ref=pensionplanpuppets.com) Always good to hear hockey talk in August. [NHL commissioner Gary Bettman provides needles for your CBA optimism balloons](http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/nhl-commissioner-gary-bettman-provides-needles-cba-optimism-211703649--nhl.html?ref=pensionplanpuppets.com) Oh goody. From Greg Wyshynski at PD. [Is trading salary cap space good or bad for the NHL?](http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/trading-salary-cap-space-good-bad-nhl-174422325--nhl.html?ref=pensionplanpuppets.com) Depends on who you ask, I suppose. Greg Wyshynski has his say. [Detroit Red Wings 12-13 Preview: Life After Lidstrom](http://nhlnumbers.com/2012/8/15/detroit-red-wings-12-13-preview-life-after-lidstrom?ref=pensionplanpuppets.com) Over at NHL Numbers, Jonathan Willis wonders how things in Detroit will go. [One More Interview with Rick Rypien](http://kylethereporter.com/2012/08/15/one-more-interview-with-rick-rypien/?ref=pensionplanpuppets.com) Kyle Cicerella asked the late Canuck a few questions. [Introducting today’s NHL jerseys, in 8-bit SNES form](http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2012/08/15/introducting-todays-nhl-jerseys-in-8-bit-snes-form/?ref=pensionplanpuppets.com) The thing is, Sega Genesis' NHL games were always better. From JB at BHS.