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# Back to Excited Episode 21 - The Tough Job Ahead of Kyle Dubas
- URL: https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/toronto-maple-leafs-nhl-hockey-podcast-back-to-excited-kyle-dubas/
- Published: 2018-05-17T15:26:22.000Z
- Updated: 2018-05-17T15:26:22.000Z
- Description: Why the new GM has his work cut out for him
- Author: Arvind S
- Tags: Back To Excited, #chorus, #Import 2023-04-05 11:43

Welcome to another episode of Back to Excited. We’re a little delayed, thanks to some life stuff and Mother’s Day. But we’re back with about 90 minutes of scintillating Leafs discussion. On this episode:

- Fulemin discusses why every fanbase hates the Leafs \[1:54\]
- We talk about Kyle Dubas \[8:23\] and the tough job he has ahead of him
- Is too much made of Dubas’ analytics background? \[11:05\]
- Fulemin discusses why being a GM is harder than it seems \[19:30\]
- The Leafs tough road to improve from where they are, and why any defence upgrade won’t be for a guy that is great right now \[25:55\]
- \[30:08\] The dependence the Leafs have on the development of Dermott and Liljegren to fix their defensive core.
- \[34:47\] Why John Carlson’s contract is going to be awful
- \[39:17\] The types of moves the Leafs will likely have to make to improve
- \[45:16\] We have basically the same discussion, but regarding centres instead of defencemen
- \[55:06\] When does sheltering your third line make sense versus getting a group that can play versus everyone
- \[63:03\] Arvind gets subtweeted!
- \[67:02\] Why Kapanen isn’t really much of a trade chip
- \[74:00\] Why tactical adjustments may be the most likely thing to help the Leafs
- \[76:10\] What the Leafs can learn from the conference finalists/

In the podcast, we mention a couple articles written by Katya that are worth a read. They are:

[Kyle Dubas, AHL goons, and the long, slow journey to a modern development system](https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/kyle-dubas-toronto-marlies-general-manager-history-ahl-goons-modern-development-system/)

[The grass is always greener in Toronto](https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/the-grass-is-always-greener-in-toronto/)

As always, you can find the podcast on Soundcloud, iTunes, and just about everywhere else. Let us know what moves you’d like to see from Dubas this offseason, and thanks for listening.