With the discussion yesterday about the Leafs not signing 2008 Draft pick Joel Champagne, a question was asked about the number of the players who have re-entered the draft and been drafted again. Well I like a challenge, so with the help of PPP user and hot chick extraordinaire Fergus30, we set out to find out about those players that have been drafted twice.
We went all the way back to 1999 using NHL Draft information from hockeydb.com to find our guys. Why 1999 you ask? Because 11 years seemed like a good amount, especially with over 3,300 players to go through. So without further adieu, our list and discussion......after the jump.
The 37 players drafted twice since 1999 in alphabetical order. Scroll way down for the discussion.
1999, Round 3, #77 – Calgary
2001, Round 3, #73 – Chicago
1997, Round 2, #37 – Montreal
1999, Round 5, #156 – Dallas
1997, Round 7, #180 – Boston
1999, Round 7, #202 – Carolina
1999, Round 5, #137 – NYR
2001, Round 7, #207 – Calgary
Jordan Bendfeld – D
2006, Round 5, #152 – Phoenix
2008, Round 7, #193 – Edmonton
Nick Boynton
1997, Round 1, #9 – Washington
1999, Round 1, #21 – Boston
Tim Brent – C
2002, Round 2, #37 – Anaheim
2004, Round 3, #75 - Anaheim (lol!)
Craig Brunel – RW
1998, Round 6, #147 – Nashville
1999, Round 9, #263 – Buffalo
2001, Round 6, #166 – NYI
2003, Round 7, #199 – Pittsburgh
Mathieu Chouinard – G
1998, Round 1, #15 – Ottawa
2000, Round 2, #45 – Ottawa (lol!)
2003, Round 7, #228 – Ottawa
2005, Round 6, #183 – San Jose
Gerard Dicaire – D
2000, Round 2, #48 – Buffalo
2002, Round 5, #162 – Tampa Bay
Fedor Fedorov – C
1999, Round 6, #182 – Tampa Bay
2001, Round 3, #66 – Vancouver
Jonas Fiedler – RW
2002, Round 3, #86 – San Jose
2004, Round 8, #235 – Carolina
Paul Flache – D
2000, Round 5, #152 – Edmonton
2002, Round 4, #144 – Atlanta
Brent Gauvreau – C
1998, Round 5, #120 – Calgary
2000, Round 6, #186 – Phoenix
Peter Hamerlik – G
2000, Round 3, #84 – Pittsburgh
2002, Round 5, #153 – Boston
Trevor Hendrikx – D
2003, Round 9, #283 – Columbus
2005, Round 7, #201 – Columbus (lol!)
Eric Hunter – C
2004, Round 8, #229 – Chicago
2006, Round 6, #174 – NYR
Eric Johansson – C
2000, Round 8, #255 – Minnesota
2002, Round 6, #187 – New Jersey
Matthew Lombardi – C
2000, Round 7, #215 – Edmonton
2002, Round 3, #90 – Calgary
Masi Marjamaki – LW
2003, Round 2, #66 – Boston
2005, Round 5, #144 – NYI
Brandon Nolan – C
2001, Round 3, #72 – New Jersey
2003, Round 4, #111 – Vancouver
Nathan Paetsch - D
2001, Round 2, #58 – Washington
2003, Round 7, #202 - Buffalo
Peter Reynolds - D
1999, Round 2, #60 – Toronto
2001, Round 9, #274 – Carolina
Ashton Rome - RW
2004, Round 4, #108 – Boston
2006, Round 5, #143 – San Jose
Dany Roussin - LW
2003, Round 7, #223 – Florida
2005, Round 2, #50 – Los Angeles
Brett Scheffelmaier - D
1999, Round 3, #75 – Tampa Bay
2001, Round 6, #190 – St. Louis
Robert Schnabel - D
1997, Round 3, #79 – NYI
1998, Round 5, #129 – Phoenix
Shay Stephenson - LW
2001, Round 9, #278 – Edmonton
2003, Round 7, #198 – Carolina
Jarret Stoll - C
2000, Round 2, #46 – Calgary
2002, Round 2, #36 – Edmonton
Martin Vagner - D
2002, Round 1, #26 - Dallas
2004, Round 9, #268 – Carolina
1999, Round 2, #57 – Pittsburgh
2001, Round 7, #222 – Tampa Bay
Kyle Wanvig - RW
1999, Round 3, #89 – Boston
2001, Round 2, #36 – Minnesota
Rob Zepp - G
1999, Round 4, #99 – Atlanta
2001, Round 4, #110 – Carolina
Mike Zigomanis - C
1999, Round 2, #64 – Buffalo
2001, Round 2, #46 – Carolina
Matt Zultek - LW
1997, Round 1, #15 – Los Angeles
1999, Round 2, #56 - Boston
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So what does this all tell us?
First and foremost, it shows that players drafted twice don't have the best luck when it comes to having an NHL career. The only regular NHLers past or present on this list are Anderson, Boynton, Lombardi, Stoll, and to a lesser extent Paetsch and Zigomanis. The remaining 31 players have played a handful of NHL games combined and for the most part have bounced around the minor leagues from the AHL, ECHL, and various European leagues.
Secondly it shows that players have about a 1 in 3 chance of being drafted earlier than in their first draft year. Roussin benefited the most by re-entering the draft, moving up 173 spots from 223rd overall to Florida in 2002; all the way up to 50th overall in 2004 with Los Angeles. Roussin then went on to never play a game in the NHL. That's right; he cost a 2nd and 7th round pick and never played a game!
Third, in the words of Fergus 30: "My conclusion is that Carolina has shit scouting. Not one of the guys they picked up on their second go around played a full season in the NHL." Carolina has drafted 7 out of the 37 players drafted twice since 1999 (19%), and combined they have played 23 total games in the NHL. Dear Carolina, perhaps there was a reason they were never signed in the first place? (Argument invalid with regards to Joel Champagne)
Toronto, on the other hand, has never draft a play on their second go around. And the only player they've drafted, lost, and had drafted again was 1999's 2nd round selection Peter Reynolds. He was a good sized and decent scoring defenseman (.5 ppg in the OHL), but he never played a game in the NHL.
Lastly, a big LOL to Columbus, Anaheim, and Ottawa for drafting the same player twice. Only mystery man Tim Brent went on to play in the NHL, 19 games total so far with 15 of those for the team who drafted him....twice.
So there you have it. That's what happens to players who get drafted for a second time.